Re: what about lion?
Just a reply to some of the discussion for this topicthe question of who needs to make the update, either Apple or Avid is clearly Avid. The entire structure of how files are handled was changed with the new time machine style versioning and upcoming cloud functionality. Avid will have to modify their file writing components and possibly add support for full screen mode, the always available functionality that never actually closes an application on your machine and several other new options if they choose to support them. This will most likely take them a long time if they really want to fully support the benefits of Lionyou saw how long it took to move from Leopard to Snow Leopard and that was not as significant of an upgrade. On a more positive note, there may be a way to run Pro Tools in Lion but that would absolutely not be for production purposes because it is of course not supported. I have not done this yet but plan to try. Lion natively runs in 64bit mode and this is one of the reasons why not only Pro Tools but a lot of hardware does not work in Lion. If you run it in 32bit mode you may be able to get this to work. SL does not run natively in 64bit. If you hold down the 3 and 2 on your keyboard when you boot you will boot into 32 bit mode in Lion...this may allow you to run Pro Tools and may allow some hardware without 64bit drivers to work. I have a Tascam FW1884 that did not work in 64bit mode but did work in 32bit mode. I have read many posts of people getting Pro Tools to work in 32bit mode in Lion. You would lose any memory over 4gb so this is not good for everyone. And in a professional production environment you would not want to try this at all. But it might be okay for those who just want to experiment or have no looming deadlines. Use this info at your own risk.BTW hold down 6 and 4 to return to the 64bit modehow clever of Apple! Slau Halatyn wrote: Hey Scott, Although it is theoretically possible to do that (I know because I've actually had to do it), it's not the best. Pro Tools can be a little sluggish and, depending upon the size of the session, there can be errors when bouncing. That said, I was dealing with 32 tracks at the time and, in all fairness, there was one error the first time I did a bounce but it seemed to work after that without problems. I just made sure to let the bounce go without using VoiceOver for anything while the bounce was in progress. So, it technically works, I just don't know how well under various circumstances. I would imagine a dual partition would work better. HTH, Slau On Jul 21, 2011, at 6:32 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Out of interest, has anybody ever run Pt in a version of an OS hosted on an external drive. My thinking was that I could upgrade the internal to Lion and reap the rewards of general usage, then boot into 10.6.7 on an external drive when it's time to do PT sessions. Supposing that can work, would I need two external drives so as to still be running PT and the OS on a separate drive from the audio files themselves? Any thoughts appreciated... Scott On 7/21/11, Gordon Kent dbmu...@cybernex.net wrote: Hello: Yeah, I got an email from my sales guy at Sweetwater and he is adamantly advising against upgrading to Lion for all his customers. Not only is it not compatible with pro tools, but a lot of hardware won’t work either. Apparently this is a significant upgrade under the hood. It will probably be great once things settle down. Gord From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:29 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what about lion? Pro Tools isn't even compatible with Snow Leopard 10.6.8 so don't even think of going to Lion with Pro Tools because it doesn't work. Avid keeps people up to date on Pro tools compatibility on their web site. Best, Slau On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: hey! Watch out! It's coming! raoh! It brings significant improvements on voice-over, but does anyone know if ProTools nine will be compatible with it? Should I upgrade or wait? Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: what about lion?
Does any one have any idea for when Lion will become usable? I mean is it a matter of just waiting until they patch things or are we talking about a longer wait. I am looking at buying a Mac right now and if it is only going to be a matter of months before the issue is resolved then I can wait, but if we are looking at more like a year or years then, lets just say I am inpatient and will be happy with what works now. Thanks for tolerating more of my newby questions. Jake - Original Message - From: Jean-Philippe Rykiel To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:04 PM Subject: Re: what about lion? Lion is a nickname for the new Mac operating system. Don't upgrade now, or you won't be able to use ProTools anymore, at least for the moment. Cheers, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: Jake To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:53 PM Subject: Re: what about lion? I am confused can I ask what exactly we are talking about? Jake - Original Message - From: Jean-Philippe Rykiel To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:14 AM Subject: what about lion? hey! Watch out! It's coming! raoh! It brings significant improvements on voice-over, but does anyone know if ProTools nine will be compatible with it? Should I upgrade or wait? Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: what about lion?
It won't be a year but it may be a couple of months. The best thing to do is to keep an eye on Avid's site for information about compatibility. You can sign up for their email list which will inform you of such developments. Slau On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Jake wrote: Does any one have any idea for when Lion will become usable? I mean is it a matter of just waiting until they patch things or are we talking about a longer wait. I am looking at buying a Mac right now and if it is only going to be a matter of months before the issue is resolved then I can wait, but if we are looking at more like a year or years then, lets just say I am inpatient and will be happy with what works now. Thanks for tolerating more of my newby questions. Jake - Original Message - From: Jean-Philippe Rykiel To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:04 PM Subject: Re: what about lion? Lion is a nickname for the new Mac operating system. Don't upgrade now, or you won't be able to use ProTools anymore, at least for the moment. Cheers, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: Jake To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:53 PM Subject: Re: what about lion? I am confused can I ask what exactly we are talking about? Jake - Original Message - From: Jean-Philippe Rykiel To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:14 AM Subject: what about lion? hey! Watch out! It's coming! raoh! It brings significant improvements on voice-over, but does anyone know if ProTools nine will be compatible with it? Should I upgrade or wait? Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: what about lion?
I can't easily explain software compatibility here. Suffice it to say that you should follow the developers' guidelines for software versions and operating system versions to make sure you're not going to run into problems. Pro Tools is compatible with OS X 10.6.7 until further notice—simply put. HTH, Slau On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Jake wrote: So is it a problem on Avid's end or some thing that Mac will have to resolve? thanks Jake - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:22 AM Subject: Re: what about lion? It won't be a year but it may be a couple of months. The best thing to do is to keep an eye on Avid's site for information about compatibility. You can sign up for their email list which will inform you of such developments. Slau On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Jake wrote: Does any one have any idea for when Lion will become usable? I mean is it a matter of just waiting until they patch things or are we talking about a longer wait. I am looking at buying a Mac right now and if it is only going to be a matter of months before the issue is resolved then I can wait, but if we are looking at more like a year or years then, lets just say I am inpatient and will be happy with what works now. Thanks for tolerating more of my newby questions. Jake - Original Message - From: Jean-Philippe Rykiel To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:04 PM Subject: Re: what about lion? Lion is a nickname for the new Mac operating system. Don't upgrade now, or you won't be able to use ProTools anymore, at least for the moment. Cheers, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: Jake To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:53 PM Subject: Re: what about lion? I am confused can I ask what exactly we are talking about? Jake - Original Message - From: Jean-Philippe Rykiel To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:14 AM Subject: what about lion? hey! Watch out! It's coming! raoh! It brings significant improvements on voice-over, but does anyone know if ProTools nine will be compatible with it? Should I upgrade or wait? Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: what about lion?
thanks much Jake - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:34 AM Subject: Re: what about lion? I can't easily explain software compatibility here. Suffice it to say that you should follow the developers' guidelines for software versions and operating system versions to make sure you're not going to run into problems. Pro Tools is compatible with OS X 10.6.7 until further notice—simply put. HTH, Slau On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Jake wrote: So is it a problem on Avid's end or some thing that Mac will have to resolve? thanks Jake - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:22 AM Subject: Re: what about lion? It won't be a year but it may be a couple of months. The best thing to do is to keep an eye on Avid's site for information about compatibility. You can sign up for their email list which will inform you of such developments. Slau On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Jake wrote: Does any one have any idea for when Lion will become usable? I mean is it a matter of just waiting until they patch things or are we talking about a longer wait. I am looking at buying a Mac right now and if it is only going to be a matter of months before the issue is resolved then I can wait, but if we are looking at more like a year or years then, lets just say I am inpatient and will be happy with what works now. Thanks for tolerating more of my newby questions. Jake - Original Message - From: Jean-Philippe Rykiel To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:04 PM Subject: Re: what about lion? Lion is a nickname for the new Mac operating system. Don't upgrade now, or you won't be able to use ProTools anymore, at least for the moment. Cheers, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: Jake To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:53 PM Subject: Re: what about lion? I am confused can I ask what exactly we are talking about? Jake - Original Message - From: Jean-Philippe Rykiel To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:14 AM Subject: what about lion? hey! Watch out! It's coming! raoh! It brings significant improvements on voice-over, but does anyone know if ProTools nine will be compatible with it? Should I upgrade or wait? Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: what about lion?
Hello: Yeah, I got an email from my sales guy at Sweetwater and he is adamantly advising against upgrading to Lion for all his customers. Not only is it not compatible with pro tools, but a lot of hardware won’t work either. Apparently this is a significant upgrade under the hood. It will probably be great once things settle down. Gord From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:29 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what about lion? Pro Tools isn't even compatible with Snow Leopard 10.6.8 so don't even think of going to Lion with Pro Tools because it doesn't work. Avid keeps people up to date on Pro tools compatibility on their web site. Best, Slau On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: hey! Watch out! It's coming! raoh! It brings significant improvements on voice-over, but does anyone know if ProTools nine will be compatible with it? Should I upgrade or wait? Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: what about lion?
Out of interest, has anybody ever run Pt in a version of an OS hosted on an external drive. My thinking was that I could upgrade the internal to Lion and reap the rewards of general usage, then boot into 10.6.7 on an external drive when it's time to do PT sessions. Supposing that can work, would I need two external drives so as to still be running PT and the OS on a separate drive from the audio files themselves? Any thoughts appreciated... Scott On 7/21/11, Gordon Kent dbmu...@cybernex.net wrote: Hello: Yeah, I got an email from my sales guy at Sweetwater and he is adamantly advising against upgrading to Lion for all his customers. Not only is it not compatible with pro tools, but a lot of hardware won’t work either. Apparently this is a significant upgrade under the hood. It will probably be great once things settle down. Gord From: Slau Halatyn Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:29 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what about lion? Pro Tools isn't even compatible with Snow Leopard 10.6.8 so don't even think of going to Lion with Pro Tools because it doesn't work. Avid keeps people up to date on Pro tools compatibility on their web site. Best, Slau On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: hey! Watch out! It's coming! raoh! It brings significant improvements on voice-over, but does anyone know if ProTools nine will be compatible with it? Should I upgrade or wait? Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
what about lion?
hey! Watch out! It's coming! raoh! It brings significant improvements on voice-over, but does anyone know if ProTools nine will be compatible with it? Should I upgrade or wait? Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: what about lion?
While i haven't tried PT with it yet, my MBox Pro 3rd gen doesn't seem to work well and needs a driver update. Loving the VO improvements though i must say. On 7/20/11, Jean-Philippe Rykiel jpryk...@gmail.com wrote: hey! Watch out! It's coming! raoh! It brings significant improvements on voice-over, but does anyone know if ProTools nine will be compatible with it? Should I upgrade or wait? Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: what about lion?
Pro Tools isn't even compatible with Snow Leopard 10.6.8 so don't even think of going to Lion with Pro Tools because it doesn't work. Avid keeps people up to date on Pro tools compatibility on their web site. Best, Slau On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: hey! Watch out! It's coming! raoh! It brings significant improvements on voice-over, but does anyone know if ProTools nine will be compatible with it? Should I upgrade or wait? Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: what about lion?
What? I just bought my PT a week ago and of course, I have the latestOSX on my Mac. Does it mean it's not even worth installing for the moment? JP http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:29 PM Subject: Re: what about lion? Pro Tools isn't even compatible with Snow Leopard 10.6.8 so don't even think of going to Lion with Pro Tools because it doesn't work. Avid keeps people up to date on Pro tools compatibility on their web site. Best, Slau On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: hey! Watch out! It's coming! raoh! It brings significant improvements on voice-over, but does anyone know if ProTools nine will be compatible with it? Should I upgrade or wait? Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: what about lion?
Avid specifically says not to use 10.6.8 with Pro Tools. Who knows, it might possibly launch and load but it might have all kinds of issues so I'd take their word for it and not take a chance. It's quite possible that they might announce 10.6.8 compatibility any day but I doubt Lion compatibility will come until at least a couple of months, maybe September. Slau On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: What? I just bought my PT a week ago and of course, I have the latestOSX on my Mac. Does it mean it's not even worth installing for the moment? JP http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:29 PM Subject: Re: what about lion? Pro Tools isn't even compatible with Snow Leopard 10.6.8 so don't even think of going to Lion with Pro Tools because it doesn't work. Avid keeps people up to date on Pro tools compatibility on their web site. Best, Slau On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: hey! Watch out! It's coming! raoh! It brings significant improvements on voice-over, but does anyone know if ProTools nine will be compatible with it? Should I upgrade or wait? Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: what about lion?
I am confused can I ask what exactly we are talking about? Jake - Original Message - From: Jean-Philippe Rykiel To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:14 AM Subject: what about lion? hey! Watch out! It's coming! raoh! It brings significant improvements on voice-over, but does anyone know if ProTools nine will be compatible with it? Should I upgrade or wait? Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: what about lion?
Lion is a nickname for the new Mac operating system. Don't upgrade now, or you won't be able to use ProTools anymore, at least for the moment. Cheers, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel - Original Message - From: Jake To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:53 PM Subject: Re: what about lion? I am confused can I ask what exactly we are talking about? Jake - Original Message - From: Jean-Philippe Rykiel To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:14 AM Subject: what about lion? hey! Watch out! It's coming! raoh! It brings significant improvements on voice-over, but does anyone know if ProTools nine will be compatible with it? Should I upgrade or wait? Best, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
