Re: CfC: new WD of Clipboard API and Events; deadline April 5

2011-03-29 Thread Charles McCathieNevile
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 13:37:46 +0200, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com  
wrote:


This is a Call for Consensus to publish a new Working Draft of  
Hallvord's Clipboard API and Events spec:


   http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html


Please do...

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Re: CfC: new WD of Clipboard API and Events; deadline April 5

2011-03-29 Thread Paul Libbrecht

Is the process currently requesting us to publish a draft so that comments can 
be gathered from the public?

paul

Le 29 mars 2011 à 13:37, Arthur Barstow a écrit :

 This is a Call for Consensus to publish a new Working Draft of Hallvord's 
 Clipboard API and Events spec:
 
  http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html
 
 If you have any comments or concerns about this proposal, please send them to 
 public-webapps by April 5 at the latest.
 
 As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encouraged and 
 silence will be assumed to be agreement with the proposal.
 
 Please note that during this CfC, Hallvord will continue to edit the ED and 
 will create a Table of Contents before the spec is published in w3.org/TR/.
 
 -Art Barstow
 




Re: CfC: new WD of Clipboard API and Events; deadline April 5

2011-03-29 Thread Arthur Barstow

Hi Paul,

We welcome comments on all of WebApps' specs at any time.

The W3C Process Document includes a so-called heart beat publication 
requirement that effectively says a WG should publish each spec in /TR/ 
at least every 3 months. For a variety of reasons, we aren't strict 
about that requirement in this WG.


For this particular spec, it has been a very long time (2006) since it 
was lasted published in /TR/ and since that version has no link to the 
latest ED, one could easily conclude no work has been done on that spec. 
However, the reality is Hallvord has done significant work on the spec 
and as such, it facilitates setting expectations for us to publish a 
new WD.


-Art Barstow

On Mar/29/2011 10:22 AM, ext Paul Libbrecht wrote:

Is the process currently requesting us to publish a draft so that comments can 
be gathered from the public?

paul

Le 29 mars 2011 à 13:37, Arthur Barstow a écrit :


This is a Call for Consensus to publish a new Working Draft of Hallvord's 
Clipboard API and Events spec:

  http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html

If you have any comments or concerns about this proposal, please send them to 
public-webapps by April 5 at the latest.

As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encouraged and 
silence will be assumed to be agreement with the proposal.

Please note that during this CfC, Hallvord will continue to edit the ED and 
will create a Table of Contents before the spec is published in w3.org/TR/.

-Art Barstow





Re: CfC: new WD of Clipboard API and Events; deadline April 5

2011-03-29 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Well, so here are my comments:

---
I would reformulate:

 MathML often needs to be transformed to be copied as plain text, for example 
 to make sure to the power of is shown with the caret ^ sign. Also, the 
 XML source could be placed in the clipboard with the appropriate 
 transformation occurring when pasting.


into:

 MathML often needs to be transformed to be copied as plain text, for example 
 to make sure to the power of is shown with the caret ^ sign

in a formula plain-text input.

 Also, the XML source could be placed in the clipboard with the appropriate 
 transformation occurring when pasting.

this is great!


---

Since the API should be that of HTML5, I think it is important to have a more 
direct link to the appropriate HTML5 section.
I also think the parameter names and arity should be repeated.

--

I believe an example of typical data-types really is needed (yes to one of the 
question there!).

HTML5 leaves it open to use native types or mime's media-types, but warns about 
spaces... it seems quite fussy.

Hence best practice is wished.

---

Le 29 mars 2011 à 16:46, Arthur Barstow a écrit :

 For this particular spec, it has been a very long time (2006) since it was 
 lasted published in /TR/ and since that version has no link to the latest ED, 
 one could easily conclude no work has been done on that spec. However, the 
 reality is Hallvord has done significant work on the spec and as such, it 
 facilitates setting expectations for us to publish a new WD.

Please receive my personal approval to publish as a WD, even with none of my 
issues addressed.

it's great to see it evolving.

paul





Le 29 mars 2011 à 13:37, Arthur Barstow a écrit :

 This is a Call for Consensus to publish a new Working Draft of Hallvord's 
 Clipboard API and Events spec:
 
  http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html
 
 If you have any comments or concerns about this proposal, please send them to 
 public-webapps by April 5 at the latest.
 
 As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encouraged and 
 silence will be assumed to be agreement with the proposal.
 
 Please note that during this CfC, Hallvord will continue to edit the ED and 
 will create a Table of Contents before the spec is published in w3.org/TR/.
 
 -Art Barstow
 




Re: websockets protocol getting solid - cross-reviews?

2011-03-29 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011, Thomas Roessler wrote:

 The websockets protocol is getting to a point where it's not quite in Last 
 Call yet, but could use review from an API perspective:
   http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hybi-thewebsocketprotocol-06
 
 I'm copying the chairs of the IETF hybi WG (Gabriel Montenegro and Salvatore 
 Loreto), and Mark Nottingham (IETF liaison to the W3C).

I sent Ian a review from the API perspective relatively recently.

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Re: websockets protocol getting solid - cross-reviews; deadline April 15

2011-03-29 Thread Arthur Barstow
Hi All - I see that Hixie  already submitted comments and I encourage 
others, especially those that have participated in the implementation of 
the Web Sockets API, to also submit comments.


All comments should be submitted to h...@ietf.org by April 15 at the latest.

If anyone in WebApps wants to propose an official WG response, please do 
so ASAP, in reply to this email so the WebApps WG can discuss it.


Thomas - for those of us not familiar with IETF process:

* If their Last Call process differs from the W3C's LC process, please 
explain the diff(s)


* Does the IETF have a Candidate Recommendation publication and process 
like the W3C? In particular, will the IETF create a test suite and 
mandate two or implementations pass the test suite before they consider 
the protocol spec done?


Also, when - approximately - does the IETF plan to publish a LC of the 
Web Socket Protocol?


-Art Barstow

On Mar/29/2011 7:58 AM, ext Thomas Roessler wrote:

The websockets protocol is getting to a point where it's not quite in Last Call 
yet, but could use review from an API perspective:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hybi-thewebsocketprotocol-06

I'm copying the chairs of the IETF hybi WG (Gabriel Montenegro and Salvatore 
Loreto), and Mark Nottingham (IETF liaison to the W3C).

Regards,
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Thomas Roessler, W3Ct...@w3.org   (@roessler)












[Bug 10585] Need an error to indicate that the user disallowed access

2011-03-29 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10585

Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED

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[Bug 12366] IDBSuccessEvent is not defined anywhere, yet it is used (remove it)

2011-03-29 Thread bugzilla
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12366

Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 CC||jo...@sicking.cc
 Resolution||FIXED

--- Comment #2 from Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc 2011-03-30 01:08:09 UTC ---
Checked in a fix

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