Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet system deployment hanging ..

2010-08-17 Thread Adrian Snyman
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Adrian Snyman a.sny...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Adrian Snyman a.sny...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Trevor Hemsley
 trevor.hems...@codefarm.com wrote:
 You're not exec'ing some install program that is stopping and waiting for
 input? When we deploy Platform Symphony, we have to do something like an
 exec that runs echo Y | symphony-installer or we get a similar problem.


 Hmm, I am not aware of any installers running ... I will take a look
 and see if there are
 any background processes waiting for input .. thanks !


 Well, I have run through the installation, and it appears to be
 hanging on the installation of our grid software.
 The commandline is executing, but the rpm's aren't downloading - so I
 will keep looking ...

 Adrian Snyman wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Ohad Levy ohadl...@gmail.com wrote:


 Does the puppet run starts at all?
 I've seen similar case when the clock were out of sync, ntp started and
 aligned it, but puppet got hanged because of it (or sleeping for a really
 long time).
 does debug mode provide more info?
 Ohad

 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:11 AM, MadX a.sny...@gmail.com wrote:


 We have successfully installed puppet on a CentOS Server, but I am
 battling with a deployment.

 It has to do with grid software. The repository gets created, then
 begins installation.
 The problem is that it just hangs - no errors, no network activity. I
 can see puppet is running, but nothing it being updated.

 Any pointers ?

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 Well, This is happening at about 50% of the installation - so it is
 definitely deploying ..
 I am running :

 puppetd --test --verbose

 And, as listed above - that's the last message I am seeing .. :S Any
 other logs etc. I could give ?



Okay, just a heads up here ...
I found the issue to be a faulty rpm. The user/group did not exist on
the target system, and so after about 300 warnings, yum simply
freezes. Installing the rpm manually showed the error. After creating
the user and group - the deployment was successful.

Unfortunately, puppet simply hangs while waiting for the rpm
transaction to finish, and there is no indication as to what is
holding up the
install ...

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Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet system deployment hanging ..

2010-08-17 Thread Eric Shamow
I have seen this behavior before as well. I've also seen it where
yum-updater (which is evil and shouldn't be running, but in some cases
hasn't been turned off yet by kickstart or puppet) will switch on and
demolish a bootstrap Puppet run.

It would help if the yum handler was a little more verbose or had some
kind of watchdog that could reap stale processes after a while.  The
hardest thing about this kind of problem is actually figuring out what
causes the issue, since Puppet/Yum only log the action after it's
completed.

-Eric


On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Adrian Snyman a.sny...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Adrian Snyman a.sny...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Adrian Snyman a.sny...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Trevor Hemsley
 trevor.hems...@codefarm.com wrote:
 You're not exec'ing some install program that is stopping and waiting for
 input? When we deploy Platform Symphony, we have to do something like an
 exec that runs echo Y | symphony-installer or we get a similar problem.


 Hmm, I am not aware of any installers running ... I will take a look
 and see if there are
 any background processes waiting for input .. thanks !


 Well, I have run through the installation, and it appears to be
 hanging on the installation of our grid software.
 The commandline is executing, but the rpm's aren't downloading - so I
 will keep looking ...

 Adrian Snyman wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Ohad Levy ohadl...@gmail.com wrote:


 Does the puppet run starts at all?
 I've seen similar case when the clock were out of sync, ntp started and
 aligned it, but puppet got hanged because of it (or sleeping for a really
 long time).
 does debug mode provide more info?
 Ohad

 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:11 AM, MadX a.sny...@gmail.com wrote:


 We have successfully installed puppet on a CentOS Server, but I am
 battling with a deployment.

 It has to do with grid software. The repository gets created, then
 begins installation.
 The problem is that it just hangs - no errors, no network activity. I
 can see puppet is running, but nothing it being updated.

 Any pointers ?

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 Well, This is happening at about 50% of the installation - so it is
 definitely deploying ..
 I am running :

 puppetd --test --verbose

 And, as listed above - that's the last message I am seeing .. :S Any
 other logs etc. I could give ?



 Okay, just a heads up here ...
 I found the issue to be a faulty rpm. The user/group did not exist on
 the target system, and so after about 300 warnings, yum simply
 freezes. Installing the rpm manually showed the error. After creating
 the user and group - the deployment was successful.

 Unfortunately, puppet simply hangs while waiting for the rpm
 transaction to finish, and there is no indication as to what is
 holding up the
 install ...

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Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet system deployment hanging ..

2010-08-17 Thread Adrian Snyman
Well, I wonder if there is a way to make puppet turn off the updater
before starting it's run ?

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Eric Shamow eric.sha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have seen this behavior before as well. I've also seen it where
 yum-updater (which is evil and shouldn't be running, but in some cases
 hasn't been turned off yet by kickstart or puppet) will switch on and
 demolish a bootstrap Puppet run.

 It would help if the yum handler was a little more verbose or had some
 kind of watchdog that could reap stale processes after a while.  The
 hardest thing about this kind of problem is actually figuring out what
 causes the issue, since Puppet/Yum only log the action after it's
 completed.

 -Eric


 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Adrian Snyman a.sny...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Adrian Snyman a.sny...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Adrian Snyman a.sny...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Trevor Hemsley
 trevor.hems...@codefarm.com wrote:
 You're not exec'ing some install program that is stopping and waiting for
 input? When we deploy Platform Symphony, we have to do something like an
 exec that runs echo Y | symphony-installer or we get a similar problem.


 Hmm, I am not aware of any installers running ... I will take a look
 and see if there are
 any background processes waiting for input .. thanks !


 Well, I have run through the installation, and it appears to be
 hanging on the installation of our grid software.
 The commandline is executing, but the rpm's aren't downloading - so I
 will keep looking ...

 Adrian Snyman wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Ohad Levy ohadl...@gmail.com wrote:


 Does the puppet run starts at all?
 I've seen similar case when the clock were out of sync, ntp started and
 aligned it, but puppet got hanged because of it (or sleeping for a 
 really
 long time).
 does debug mode provide more info?
 Ohad

 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:11 AM, MadX a.sny...@gmail.com wrote:


 We have successfully installed puppet on a CentOS Server, but I am
 battling with a deployment.

 It has to do with grid software. The repository gets created, then
 begins installation.
 The problem is that it just hangs - no errors, no network activity. I
 can see puppet is running, but nothing it being updated.

 Any pointers ?

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 Well, This is happening at about 50% of the installation - so it is
 definitely deploying ..
 I am running :

 puppetd --test --verbose

 And, as listed above - that's the last message I am seeing .. :S Any
 other logs etc. I could give ?



 Okay, just a heads up here ...
 I found the issue to be a faulty rpm. The user/group did not exist on
 the target system, and so after about 300 warnings, yum simply
 freezes. Installing the rpm manually showed the error. After creating
 the user and group - the deployment was successful.

 Unfortunately, puppet simply hangs while waiting for the rpm
 transaction to finish, and there is no indication as to what is
 holding up the
 install ...

 --
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 Adrian

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Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet system deployment hanging ..

2010-08-17 Thread Daniel Maher

On 08/17/2010 04:04 PM, Adrian Snyman wrote:

Well, I wonder if there is a way to make puppet turn off the updater
before starting it's run ?


Instead of trying to disable it, why bother installing it at all ?  Just 
remove the package in your kickstart config and be done with it.


%packages
# don't install the yum-updatesd package
-yum-updatesd

Or the equivalent in whatever your deployment system is...

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Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet system deployment hanging ..

2010-08-17 Thread Eric Shamow
Yep, this was our solution -- I raised the issue more to point out
that finding out that yum-updater was the problem was difficult as a
result of quiet execution and yum's hang.  Once we figured out the
problem the solution was fairly easy, but that's almost always the
case...

-Eric


On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Daniel Maher d...@witbe.net wrote:
 On 08/17/2010 04:04 PM, Adrian Snyman wrote:

 Well, I wonder if there is a way to make puppet turn off the updater
 before starting it's run ?

 Instead of trying to disable it, why bother installing it at all ?  Just
 remove the package in your kickstart config and be done with it.

 %packages
 # don't install the yum-updatesd package
 -yum-updatesd

 Or the equivalent in whatever your deployment system is...

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Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet system deployment hanging ..

2010-08-13 Thread Adrian Snyman
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Trevor Hemsley
trevor.hems...@codefarm.com wrote:
 You're not exec'ing some install program that is stopping and waiting for
 input? When we deploy Platform Symphony, we have to do something like an
 exec that runs echo Y | symphony-installer or we get a similar problem.


Hmm, I am not aware of any installers running ... I will take a look
and see if there are
any background processes waiting for input .. thanks !

 Adrian Snyman wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Ohad Levy ohadl...@gmail.com wrote:


 Does the puppet run starts at all?
 I've seen similar case when the clock were out of sync, ntp started and
 aligned it, but puppet got hanged because of it (or sleeping for a really
 long time).
 does debug mode provide more info?
 Ohad

 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:11 AM, MadX a.sny...@gmail.com wrote:


 We have successfully installed puppet on a CentOS Server, but I am
 battling with a deployment.

 It has to do with grid software. The repository gets created, then
 begins installation.
 The problem is that it just hangs - no errors, no network activity. I
 can see puppet is running, but nothing it being updated.

 Any pointers ?

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 Well, This is happening at about 50% of the installation - so it is
 definitely deploying ..
 I am running :

 puppetd --test --verbose

 And, as listed above - that's the last message I am seeing .. :S Any
 other logs etc. I could give ?


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Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet system deployment hanging ..

2010-08-13 Thread Adrian Snyman
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Adrian Snyman a.sny...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Trevor Hemsley
 trevor.hems...@codefarm.com wrote:
 You're not exec'ing some install program that is stopping and waiting for
 input? When we deploy Platform Symphony, we have to do something like an
 exec that runs echo Y | symphony-installer or we get a similar problem.


 Hmm, I am not aware of any installers running ... I will take a look
 and see if there are
 any background processes waiting for input .. thanks !


Well, I have run through the installation, and it appears to be
hanging on the installation of our grid software.
The commandline is executing, but the rpm's aren't downloading - so I
will keep looking ...

 Adrian Snyman wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Ohad Levy ohadl...@gmail.com wrote:


 Does the puppet run starts at all?
 I've seen similar case when the clock were out of sync, ntp started and
 aligned it, but puppet got hanged because of it (or sleeping for a really
 long time).
 does debug mode provide more info?
 Ohad

 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:11 AM, MadX a.sny...@gmail.com wrote:


 We have successfully installed puppet on a CentOS Server, but I am
 battling with a deployment.

 It has to do with grid software. The repository gets created, then
 begins installation.
 The problem is that it just hangs - no errors, no network activity. I
 can see puppet is running, but nothing it being updated.

 Any pointers ?

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 Well, This is happening at about 50% of the installation - so it is
 definitely deploying ..
 I am running :

 puppetd --test --verbose

 And, as listed above - that's the last message I am seeing .. :S Any
 other logs etc. I could give ?


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[Puppet Users] Puppet system deployment hanging ..

2010-08-12 Thread MadX
We have successfully installed puppet on a CentOS Server, but I am
battling with a deployment.

It has to do with grid software. The repository gets created, then
begins installation.
The problem is that it just hangs - no errors, no network activity. I
can see puppet is running, but nothing it being updated.

Any pointers ?

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Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet system deployment hanging ..

2010-08-12 Thread James Turnbull
MadX wrote:
 We have successfully installed puppet on a CentOS Server, but I am
 battling with a deployment.
 
 It has to do with grid software. The repository gets created, then
 begins installation.
 The problem is that it just hangs - no errors, no network activity. I
 can see puppet is running, but nothing it being updated.
 
 Any pointers ?
 

Puppet version?  CentOS version?  Manifest that is hanging?  Log output?

All will help diagnose the issue.

Regards

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Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet system deployment hanging ..

2010-08-12 Thread Ohad Levy
Does the puppet run starts at all?
I've seen similar case when the clock were out of sync, ntp started and
aligned it, but puppet got hanged because of it (or sleeping for a really
long time).

does debug mode provide more info?

Ohad

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:11 AM, MadX a.sny...@gmail.com wrote:

 We have successfully installed puppet on a CentOS Server, but I am
 battling with a deployment.

 It has to do with grid software. The repository gets created, then
 begins installation.
 The problem is that it just hangs - no errors, no network activity. I
 can see puppet is running, but nothing it being updated.

 Any pointers ?

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Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet system deployment hanging ..

2010-08-12 Thread Adrian Snyman
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Ohad Levy ohadl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does the puppet run starts at all?
 I've seen similar case when the clock were out of sync, ntp started and
 aligned it, but puppet got hanged because of it (or sleeping for a really
 long time).
 does debug mode provide more info?
 Ohad

 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:11 AM, MadX a.sny...@gmail.com wrote:

 We have successfully installed puppet on a CentOS Server, but I am
 battling with a deployment.

 It has to do with grid software. The repository gets created, then
 begins installation.
 The problem is that it just hangs - no errors, no network activity. I
 can see puppet is running, but nothing it being updated.

 Any pointers ?

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Well, This is happening at about 50% of the installation - so it is
definitely deploying ..
I am running :

puppetd --test --verbose

And, as listed above - that's the last message I am seeing .. :S Any
other logs etc. I could give ?
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Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet system deployment hanging ..

2010-08-12 Thread Daniel Maher

On 08/12/2010 12:49 PM, Ohad Levy wrote:

Does the puppet run starts at all?
I've seen similar case when the clock were out of sync, ntp started and
aligned it, but puppet got hanged because of it (or sleeping for a
really long time).


Just the other day we had a problem with the config on the DNS servers 
that appeared first in the (puppet-controlled) resolv.conf of our 
machines.  Puppet initialized just fine, but sat and waited for DNS 
resolution (read: timeout) at each step, which took forever.


Might want to check into that, too.


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Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet system deployment hanging ..

2010-08-12 Thread Adrian Snyman
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Daniel Maher d...@witbe.net wrote:
 On 08/12/2010 12:49 PM, Ohad Levy wrote:

 Does the puppet run starts at all?
 I've seen similar case when the clock were out of sync, ntp started and
 aligned it, but puppet got hanged because of it (or sleeping for a
 really long time).

 Just the other day we had a problem with the config on the DNS servers that
 appeared first in the (puppet-controlled) resolv.conf of our machines.
  Puppet initialized just fine, but sat and waited for DNS resolution (read:
 timeout) at each step, which took forever.

 Might want to check into that, too.



Yep, thought about that ..
The box has DNS resolution - no problems. It pulls repos from redhat
epel, as well as some scientific linux stuff ..
It populates the yum.repos.d directory, and then does :
 yum update -y

This completes no problems, so I think it's deeper than that. But good
point ... :-)


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Re: [Puppet Users] Puppet system deployment hanging ..

2010-08-12 Thread Trevor Hemsley
You're not exec'ing some install program that is stopping and waiting 
for input? When we deploy Platform Symphony, we have to do something 
like an exec that runs echo Y | symphony-installer or we get a similar 
problem.


Adrian Snyman wrote:

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Ohad Levy ohadl...@gmail.com wrote:
  

Does the puppet run starts at all?
I've seen similar case when the clock were out of sync, ntp started and
aligned it, but puppet got hanged because of it (or sleeping for a really
long time).
does debug mode provide more info?
Ohad

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:11 AM, MadX a.sny...@gmail.com wrote:


We have successfully installed puppet on a CentOS Server, but I am
battling with a deployment.

It has to do with grid software. The repository gets created, then
begins installation.
The problem is that it just hangs - no errors, no network activity. I
can see puppet is running, but nothing it being updated.

Any pointers ?

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Well, This is happening at about 50% of the installation - so it is
definitely deploying ..
I am running :

puppetd --test --verbose

And, as listed above - that's the last message I am seeing .. :S Any
other logs etc. I could give ?
  


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