Re: [pygtk] french translation of pyGTK tutorials...

2007-06-28 Thread mcc

Pascal Duchatelle a écrit :

Hello,

I use pyGTK a lot even though I cannot say I am confortable with it.
Anyway on the pyGTK site there links that points to localized
versions. So I wandered if there was any french translation of it
and if it would be interesting to have one. If so I volunteer to
start (at least) it. Also I would need some help/advice on the way to
(technically) do it in order to be usable by you guys.
Cheers
Pascal
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There is a french translation in progress, you can look at
http://mcclinews.free.fr/python/pygtktut.php

And you are welcome if you want reread and correct (corrige) all 
possible errors. You can mail me directly in french if you want.



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Re: [pygtk] french translation of pyGTK tutorials...

2007-06-28 Thread Pascal Duchatelle
Le Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:37:26 +0200,
mcc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :

> Pascal Duchatelle a écrit :
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I use pyGTK a lot even though I cannot say I am confortable with it.
> > Anyway on the pyGTK site there links that points to localized
> > versions. So I wandered if there was any french translation of it
> > and if it would be interesting to have one. If so I volunteer to
> > start (at least) it. Also I would need some help/advice on the way
> > to (technically) do it in order to be usable by you guys.
> > Cheers
> > Pascal
> 
> Hello, it seems my first post is lost...
> I had writed :
> French translation of pygtk tutorial is in progress at
> http://mcclinews.free.fr/python/pygtktut.php
> 
> You are welcome if you like participe or reread and rectify...
> My idea was wait for all finished before send it to pygtk.org,
> perhaps not a good idea.
> 
It seems you did already a great job. I still wish to participate. tell
me (maybe in private as you like) how we can proceed.
Cordialement,
Pascal
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Re: [pygtk] french translation of pyGTK tutorials...

2007-06-28 Thread Rafael Villar Burke

mcc wrote:

Pascal Duchatelle a écrit :

Hello, it seems my first post is lost...
I had writed :
French translation of pygtk tutorial is in progress at
http://mcclinews.free.fr/python/pygtktut.php

Oh, great news!

You are welcome if you like participe or reread and rectify...
My idea was wait for all finished before send it to pygtk.org, perhaps 
not a good idea.
Well, it's easier for us to do so (less work), but feel free to do as 
you consider.


Regards,

Rafael Villar Burke

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Re: [pygtk] french translation of pyGTK tutorials...

2007-06-28 Thread mcc

Pascal Duchatelle a écrit :

Hello,

I use pyGTK a lot even though I cannot say I am confortable with it.
Anyway on the pyGTK site there links that points to localized
versions. So I wandered if there was any french translation of it
and if it would be interesting to have one. If so I volunteer to
start (at least) it. Also I would need some help/advice on the way to
(technically) do it in order to be usable by you guys.
Cheers
Pascal


Hello, it seems my first post is lost...
I had writed :
French translation of pygtk tutorial is in progress at
http://mcclinews.free.fr/python/pygtktut.php

You are welcome if you like participe or reread and rectify...
My idea was wait for all finished before send it to pygtk.org, perhaps 
not a good idea.


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Re: [pygtk] french translation of pyGTK tutorials...

2007-06-28 Thread Rafael Villar Burke

Pascal Duchatelle wrote:

Le Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:58:20 +0200,
Rafael Villar Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :

Hello Rafael,

  
I don't. I just feel weird since I didn't know there was someone doing

it somewhere. My idea was to "give" it to you guys who manages the
pygtk project and try this way to make it easier for french people to
come to it and use it. I'll get work done and see along the way how
things go.
  
There's no french translation of the tutorial, but there's some 
documentation (articles mainly) talking about pygtk. I've used it myself 
to translate some programs and try to use common translations. IMHO, 
it's good to have a look at how others have translated some terms, as 
that's one of the toughest parts of doing the job.

if you just take it easy and go step
by step, you'll find that you've finished it sooner that you
thought :). Also, feel free to send 


where and how ?
  
you could either send me a mail to me directly (see the message on the 
list for the address) or, maybe better, use the gnome bugzilla 
(http://bugzilla.gnome.org) and send a mail to the pygtk list so the 
translations don't get unnoticed. You can attach to a bug the translated 
files as you go, but, in my experience, you'll want to go back sometimes 
to change the way you have translated some expressions, so you can wait 
till you have a reasonable amount of the tutorial translated, or later 
add patches to the already commited files.
So... it's better if you add the translated files or patches to a bug 
(have a look to svn diff for a way to generate patches).


Regards,

Rafael Villar Burke
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Re: [pygtk] french translation of pyGTK tutorials...

2007-06-27 Thread Rafael Villar Burke

Andi Albrecht wrote:

Testing the PDF conversion would also be a nice thing to do.


Hi Rafael,

I've successfully built the PDFs some time ago, but I think I've used a
different conversion than stated in the Makefile. I'll have a look on it
the next days.
Great!. I have done it myself but a long time ago, and probably there 
are easier tools to do it nowadays and the makefile could be benefit 
from it.

If you can find something that can be improved, please give it a shot.

Thanks for helping,

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Re: [pygtk] french translation of pyGTK tutorials...

2007-06-27 Thread Andi Albrecht

Testing the PDF conversion would also be a nice thing to do.


Hi Rafael,

I've successfully built the PDFs some time ago, but I think I've used a
different conversion than stated in the Makefile. I'll have a look on it
the next days.

Regards,

Andi
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Re: [pygtk] french translation of pyGTK tutorials...

2007-06-27 Thread Rafael Villar Burke

Pascal Duchatelle wrote:

Hello,
  

Hi Pascal,

I use pyGTK a lot even though I cannot say I am confortable with it.
Anyway on the pyGTK site there links that points to localized
versions. So I wandered if there was any french translation of it
and if it would be interesting to have one. If so I volunteer to
start (at least) it. Also I would need some help/advice on the way to
(technically) do it in order to be usable by you guys.
  
There's no french version, only a 'in-the-works' italian version, but we 
haven't had any news from it since a long time ago.
To translate the tutorial you just need to checkout a copy of the 
pygtk-docs module in the gnome subversion repositories (see 
http://developer.gnome.org/tools/svn.html), create a new tut-fr dir and 
start translating each of the docbook files starting from the english 
(or spanish) version.


You can have a look to the sources using the online svn browser to get 
an idea about how it's organized: 
http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/pygtk-docs/trunk/2.0/ (the tut dir is where 
the original english version is held, and tut-es is the spanish 
translation).


It's not very complex to deal with the sources, as they use only a small 
subset of docbook. (an example here: 
http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/pygtk-docs/trunk/2.0/tut/ButtonWidget.xml?revision=HEAD&view=markup), 
and AFAICT, the only gotcha is being careful with the encoding (I'd say 
just use UTF-8).


Once you're done you can send patches here, contact me or any other of 
the pygtk maintainers, or use bugzilla, so we can upload the files to 
the subversion repository.


If any volunteer with Makefile skills wants to help too, there's 
possibly some cleanup work to do to build the ES, IT and any newer 
languages added.

Testing the PDF conversion would also be a nice thing to do.

Hope this is enough to get you started.
Finally, as a recommendation, don't feel overwhelmed by the large number 
of files to translate... if you just take it easy and go step by step, 
you'll find that you've finished it sooner that you thought :). Also, 
feel free to send reports about bugs, typos, etc in the original english 
sources.


Regards,

Rafael Villar Burke
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[pygtk] french translation of pyGTK tutorials...

2007-06-27 Thread Pascal Duchatelle
Hello,

I use pyGTK a lot even though I cannot say I am confortable with it.
Anyway on the pyGTK site there links that points to localized
versions. So I wandered if there was any french translation of it
and if it would be interesting to have one. If so I volunteer to
start (at least) it. Also I would need some help/advice on the way to
(technically) do it in order to be usable by you guys.
Cheers
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Re: [pygtk] tutorials for beginners

2006-07-20 Thread mc collilieux

Christopher Spears wrote:

Can anyone recommend any Glade tutorials for PyGTK
users?  Unfortunately, I have not been happy with the
three that I have tried.


Do you know this one ? I am also a beginner, it is easy to understand.
http://www.jmoiron.net/docs/python/glade2

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Re: [pygtk] tutorials for beginners

2006-07-20 Thread Preben Randhol
Christopher Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 20/07/2006 (04:22) :
> Can anyone recommend any Glade tutorials for PyGTK
> users?  Unfortunately, I have not been happy with the
> three that I have tried.

Which three have you tried and what are you missing.

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[pygtk] tutorials for beginners

2006-07-19 Thread Christopher Spears
Can anyone recommend any Glade tutorials for PyGTK
users?  Unfortunately, I have not been happy with the
three that I have tried.
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Re: [pygtk] Tutorials

2002-02-04 Thread Shandy Brown

Here's another one

http://www.icon.co.za/~zapr/Project1.html

I'd be interested in getting a password to add stuff to the FAQ myself.

sjbrown

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> I remember people posting tutorial URLs to this list, but I can't seem to
> find them to add them to the FAQ. Can people please send them in again?
> And other documentation attempts?
> 
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Re: [pygtk] Tutorials

2002-01-31 Thread Christian Robottom Reis

On 31 Jan 2002, Shandy Brown wrote:

> Here's another one
>
> http://www.icon.co.za/~zapr/Project1.html
>
> I'd be interested in getting a password to add stuff to the FAQ myself.

You can add that one to the FAQ itself so you get the hang of it.

pie-gtk

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Re: [pygtk] Tutorials

2002-01-31 Thread Shandy Brown

Here's another one

http://www.icon.co.za/~zapr/Project1.html

I'd be interested in getting a password to add stuff to the FAQ myself.

sjbrown

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> I remember people posting tutorial URLs to this list, but I can't seem to
> find them to add them to the FAQ. Can people please send them in again?
> And other documentation attempts?
> 
> Take care,
> --
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Re: [pygtk] Tutorials

2002-01-31 Thread Shandy Brown

i've got three listed at the bottom of this (unfinished) page:

http://sjbrown.geeky.net/metagame-sector/tutorial.html

sjbrown

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> I remember people posting tutorial URLs to this list, but I can't seem to
> find them to add them to the FAQ. Can people please send them in again?
> And other documentation attempts?
> 
> Take care,
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[pygtk] Tutorials

2002-01-31 Thread Christian Robottom Reis


I remember people posting tutorial URLs to this list, but I can't seem to
find them to add them to the FAQ. Can people please send them in again?
And other documentation attempts?

Take care,
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