Documentation Suggestions for Subscribers or Debug

2012-05-15 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
I ran into an issue a few months ago regarding a NewResponse
subscriber and failing to catch errors (
https://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss/browse_thread/thread/54b5b3eb5e2ccfe/4e9a2abc09b9651f
)

As I prepare for a production release , my old code ( which i forgot
to remove ) started firing -- and I finally figured out what was
happening.

Because I had debugging turned on via 'development.ini', Pyramid was
catching the error & response object from the app, and replacing it
with its own.

In a perfect world, the Pyramid debug system would let the original
response/request stuff somehow persist -- so code can be written that
works on production and development.

In a less perfect, though perfectly acceptable world, it would be
great if the debug & event subscriber docs cross-referenced one
another with an alert/note box that simply states that the debug
system will 'overtake' the response object when turned on, and
subscribers that are designed to handle errors may not work as desired
when debugging is enabled.

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Re: Documentation Suggestions for Subscribers or Debug

2012-05-15 Thread Michael Merickel
What? Pyramid doesn't have a "debug" code path, minus emitting some
log messages. Do you mean that the debugtoolbar is doing something to
the response?

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Jonathan Vanasco  wrote:
> I ran into an issue a few months ago regarding a NewResponse
> subscriber and failing to catch errors (
> https://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss/browse_thread/thread/54b5b3eb5e2ccfe/4e9a2abc09b9651f
> )
>
> As I prepare for a production release , my old code ( which i forgot
> to remove ) started firing -- and I finally figured out what was
> happening.
>
> Because I had debugging turned on via 'development.ini', Pyramid was
> catching the error & response object from the app, and replacing it
> with its own.
>
> In a perfect world, the Pyramid debug system would let the original
> response/request stuff somehow persist -- so code can be written that
> works on production and development.
>
> In a less perfect, though perfectly acceptable world, it would be
> great if the debug & event subscriber docs cross-referenced one
> another with an alert/note box that simply states that the debug
> system will 'overtake' the response object when turned on, and
> subscribers that are designed to handle errors may not work as desired
> when debugging is enabled.
>
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Re: Documentation Suggestions for Subscribers or Debug

2012-05-15 Thread Jonathan Vanasco


On May 15, 7:33 pm, Michael Merickel  wrote:
> What? Pyramid doesn't have a "debug" code path, minus emitting some
> log messages. Do you mean that the debugtoolbar is doing something to
> the response?

I'd imagine its either the error screens from pyramid_debugtoolbar or
whatever settings like debug_templates control.

pyramid.debug_templates = true
pyramid.includes = pyramid_debugtoolbar

when they're enabled, they seem to hijack the response object and
replease it with their own -- it no longer contains any trace of the
raised exception (unless you regex the debug screen html)

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Re: Documentation Suggestions for Subscribers or Debug

2012-05-15 Thread Michael Merickel
I'll need to see an example. I can't think of anything except an
exception view that can replace the response object. Even the toolbar
only mutates the body of the response.

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Jonathan Vanasco  wrote:
>
>
> On May 15, 7:33 pm, Michael Merickel  wrote:
>> What? Pyramid doesn't have a "debug" code path, minus emitting some
>> log messages. Do you mean that the debugtoolbar is doing something to
>> the response?
>
> I'd imagine its either the error screens from pyramid_debugtoolbar or
> whatever settings like debug_templates control.
>
> pyramid.debug_templates = true
> pyramid.includes = pyramid_debugtoolbar
>
> when they're enabled, they seem to hijack the response object and
> replease it with their own -- it no longer contains any trace of the
> raised exception (unless you regex the debug screen html)
>
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