[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Alexandre Vassalotti added the comment: As part of the implementation of PEP 3154 (Pickle protocol 4), I've introduced support for pickling methods for all pickle protocols (and not just for the new protocol 4). This was implemented by adding the appropriate __reduce__ method on built-in functions and methods. In addition, pickling methods in nested classes is now supported by protocol 4 through the use of the __qualname__ attribute. -- resolution: - fixed stage: - committed/rejected status: open - closed versions: +Python 3.4 -Python 3.3 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
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[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: PEP 3155 is now implemented (the __qualname__ attribute), making many more things potentially picklable. See PEP 3154 for a hypothetical new pickle protocol, and issue 13520 for a patch proposal. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Ram Rachum cool...@cool-rr.com added the comment: I don't have the time and the ability to write the patch that implements this. I'll be happy to write tests if you think this will help. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Ram Rachum cool...@cool-rr.com added the comment: Amaury: Your example succeeds on Linux but fails on Windows: $ python3.2 main.py CALLED Traceback (most recent call last): File C:\Python32\Lib\pickle.py, line 679, in save_global klass = getattr(mod, name) AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'foo' During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File main.py, line 7, in module p.start(); p.join() File C:\Python32\Lib\multiprocessing\process.py, line 130, in start self._popen = Popen(self) File C:\Python32\Lib\multiprocessing\forking.py, line 267, in __init__ dump(process_obj, to_child, HIGHEST_PROTOCOL) File C:\Python32\Lib\multiprocessing\forking.py, line 190, in dump ForkingPickler(file, protocol).dump(obj) File C:\Python32\Lib\pickle.py, line 237, in dump self.save(obj) File C:\Python32\Lib\pickle.py, line 344, in save self.save_reduce(obj=obj, *rv) File C:\Python32\Lib\pickle.py, line 432, in save_reduce save(state) File C:\Python32\Lib\pickle.py, line 299, in save f(self, obj) # Call unbound method with explicit self File C:\Python32\Lib\pickle.py, line 623, in save_dict self._batch_setitems(obj.items()) File C:\Python32\Lib\pickle.py, line 656, in _batch_setitems save(v) File C:\Python32\Lib\pickle.py, line 299, in save f(self, obj) # Call unbound method with explicit self File C:\Python32\Lib\pickle.py, line 683, in save_global (obj, module, name)) _pickle.PicklingError: Can't pickle function foo at 0x00C4EBB8: it's not found as mod.foo User@TURING ~/Desktop/temp $ Traceback (most recent call last): File string, line 1, in module File C:\Python32\Lib\multiprocessing\forking.py, line 370, in main self = load(from_parent) EOFError -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: Amaury: Your example succeeds on Linux but fails on Windows: $ python3.2 main.py I think the difference has to do with Python 3 vs. Python 2. In Python 3 unbound methods are not wrapped in a specific object, and so ForkingPickler does not find their global name. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Amaury Forgeot d'Arc amaur...@gmail.com added the comment: OK, let's go back to the __namespace__ idea, then. A long time ago I had the idea that the ast compiler could remember the list of named blocks (classes, functions) with their line numbers; for example, the statement class C spans from line 20 to 40, def foo() spans from line 26 to 30. Then, it's easy to locate the function C.foo if you only have its co_firstlineno. This would also be a replacement for the awful hacks in Lib/trace.py::file_module_function_of() (please read the code and say aaargh!). This information would be stored in the module itself, and probably compressed with techniques similar to co_lnotab. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Ram Rachum cool...@cool-rr.com added the comment: Okay, as an initial suggestion, how about we give every function a `.__parent_class__` attribute saying which class it is a method of? I feel this is a bit of a duct tape solution, but I don't see any other alternative. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Raymond Hettinger rhettin...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment: how about we give every function a `.__parent_class__` attribute saying which class it is a method of? Won't work. The same function can be used in multiple classes. The function object is independent of the class. This is conceptually no different that the unremarkable fact that any object can be stored in multiple dictionaries and the object is not responsible for knowing which dictionaries it is stored in. def f(self): ... # not even defined inside a class A.f = f# stored in class A B.f = f# also stored in class B dir(f) # f doesn't know where it is stored -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Ram Rachum cool...@cool-rr.com added the comment: Raymond: I don't think this matters. We don't need a canonical `.__parent_class__`, we just need to know where that function is defined so we could find it when unpickling. In the example that you gave, `f` would have a `.__parent_class__` of `None`, and it would be pickleable because it would be found on the top-level of the module it's defined on. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Raymond Hettinger rhettin...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment: This isn't worth introducing poorly thought out hacks. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Ram Rachum cool...@cool-rr.com added the comment: This isn't worth introducing poorly thought out hacks. Being able to pickle unbound methods is important. In my project I have objects that refer to unbound methods. Now these objects are unpickleable. I can't save them to disk and I can't use the multiprocessing module on them. That's a big problem. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: Being able to pickle unbound methods is important. In my project I have objects that refer to unbound methods. Now these objects are unpickleable. I can't save them to disk and I can't use the multiprocessing module on them. That's a big problem. Judging from all that has been said on this issue, I think the best you can do now is try to whip up a patch and upload it if it ends up not too hackish. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Ram Rachum cool...@cool-rr.com added the comment: [...] try to whip up a patch and upload it if it ends up not too hackish. To have a non-hackish patch we need a non-hackish idea. The `.__parent_class__` idea looks hackish to me, but now that I think about it, how is it more hackish than a function's `.__module__` attribute? I mean, a function's `.__module__` attribute says on which module the function was originally defined, but the function could be accessible on any other module and any other namespace or class. Its `.__module__` would remain constant, because it's the one place where you are guaranteed to be able to find the function, assuming it's defined in the top-level. So the `.__module__` attribute is used in unpickling the function. How is the `.__parent_class__` suggestion more hackish than `.__module__`? -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
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[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: To have a non-hackish patch we need a non-hackish idea. The `.__parent_class__` idea looks hackish to me, but now that I think about it, how is it more hackish than a function's `.__module__` attribute? Not much, agreed. You might want to call it `__namespace__` instead if you want it to look cleaner :) (and it could be useful for other purposes such as e.g. introspection) But by hackish I meant the possible implementation of it, not the idea itself. That's what a patch would help assess. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Amaury Forgeot d'Arc amaur...@gmail.com added the comment: Being able to pickle unbound methods is important. In my project I have objects that refer to unbound methods. Now these objects are unpickleable. I can't save them to disk and I can't use the multiprocessing module on them. That's a big problem. The multiprocessing module *can* pickle bound and unbound methods (see below), but only with the multiprocessing.Process class. It does not work with Pool.map(), for example. The reason is that Process uses the special ForkingPickler that has special code to handle methods. Pool.map could be fixed IMO. Is ForkingPickler enough for your needs? mod.py class C: def foo(self): print(CALLED) main.py === from mod import C if __name__ == '__main__': from multiprocessing import Process p = Process(target=C().foo) p.start(); p.join() p = Process(target=C.foo, args=(C(),)) p.start(); p.join() -- nosy: +amaury.forgeotdarc ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Ram Rachum cool...@cool-rr.com added the comment: Amaury: I don't think ForkingPickler works for unbound methods defined in user code, which are implemented as functions. I think it only works for method-descriptors and wrapper-descriptors. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Amaury Forgeot d'Arc amaur...@gmail.com added the comment: did you see my example above? it passes methods defined in user code. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Ram Rachum cool...@cool-rr.com added the comment: I also miss being able to pickle unbound methods on Python 3. I don't think there's an interest in pickling the actual code objects. In my opinion, unbound methods should be pickled exactly like all the other Python definitions, such as bound methods, top-level functions, and classes: They should be pickled by name. IIUC, the challenge is how to figure out on which class an unbound method is defined. I'm using the term unbound method colloquially, I know it's implemented as a function. So perhaps Python needs to be changed to give unbound methods some attribute that will tell on which class they're defined? -- nosy: +cool-RR ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
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[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment: Note that pickle deliberately does not support serializing code objects. This is a security feature and should not be broken ! If you need to pickle such objects, you can easily register handlers that take care of this. -- nosy: +lemburg ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@twistedmatrix.com added the comment: This is a security feature and should not be broken ! Can you explain this? I don't think I agree, since an attacker can always serialize whatever they feel like. It's the person doing the deserialization that has to be careful. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment: Jean-Paul Calderone wrote: Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@twistedmatrix.com added the comment: This is a security feature and should not be broken ! Can you explain this? I don't think I agree, since an attacker can always serialize whatever they feel like. It's the person doing the deserialization that has to be careful. The marshal protocol which is used for storing PYC files has support for serializing code objects. The support on pickles, which are meant for data serialization, was not added per default to prevent unwanted code execution during deserialization, but instead made possible via pickle hooks, so as to make the decision to support code serialization an explicit application choice. By adding default support for unpickling code objects, you can trick the unpickling code into executing serialized code: first you add a serialized version of a malicious class definition, then you add an object of that class to the pickle. At object restore time, the malicious class can then run os.system('rm -rf /')... -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@twistedmatrix.com added the comment: By adding default support for unpickling code objects, you can trick the unpickling code into executing serialized code: This doesn't sound correct to me. You can *already* trick unpickling code into executing serialized code. You don't need this feature in order to be able to do it. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment: Jean-Paul Calderone wrote: Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@twistedmatrix.com added the comment: By adding default support for unpickling code objects, you can trick the unpickling code into executing serialized code: This doesn't sound correct to me. You can *already* trick unpickling code into executing serialized code. You don't need this feature in order to be able to do it. How ? -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@twistedmatrix.com added the comment: For example: exar...@boson:~$ python Python 2.6.4 (r264:75706, Dec 7 2009, 18:45:15) [GCC 4.4.1] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. class x(object): ... def __reduce__(self): ... import os ... return os.system, ('echo Hello from sploitland',) ... import pickle pickle.loads(pickle.dumps(x())) Hello from sploitland 0 -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Marc-Andre Lemburg rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: .. You can *already* trick unpickling code into executing serialized code. You don't need this feature in order to be able to do it. How ? from pickle import * class evil: ...def __reduce__(self): ...return (exec, (print('pwned!'),)) ... s = dumps(evil()) loads(s) pwned! See also http://bugs.python.org/issue9120#msg109004 . AFAICT, the reason functions and classes are pickled by name has nothing to do with security. From the manual: Similarly, when class instances are pickled, their class’s code and data are not pickled along with them. Only the instance data are pickled. This is done on purpose, so you can fix bugs in a class or add methods to the class and still load objects that were created with an earlier version of the class. If you plan to have long-lived objects that will see many versions of a class, it may be worthwhile to put a version number in the objects so that suitable conversions can be made by the class’s __setstate__() method. http://docs.python.org/library/pickle.html?#what-can-be-pickled-and-unpickled -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment: Jean-Paul Calderone wrote: Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@twistedmatrix.com added the comment: For example: exar...@boson:~$ python Python 2.6.4 (r264:75706, Dec 7 2009, 18:45:15) [GCC 4.4.1] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. class x(object): ... def __reduce__(self): ... import os ... return os.system, ('echo Hello from sploitland',) ... import pickle pickle.loads(pickle.dumps(x())) Hello from sploitland 0 But here you are not transferring malicious code in the pickle string, you are just triggering the execution of such code that you already have (and are in control of). Without the definition of class x on the receiving side, there would be no exploit. By adding support for pickling code objects, you'd make it possible to place the definition of class x into the pickle string and you would no longer be in control of that code. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Marc-Andre Lemburg rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: .. Without the definition of class x on the receiving side, there would be no exploit. You are mistaken. Try adding del x (or del evil in my example) between dumps and loads and see it working. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: I think methods should be picklable just like global functions are, that is, by pickling a tuple of the fully-qualified class name (mymodule.myclass), method name (mymethod), and self. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment: M.-A. Lemburg wrote: Jean-Paul Calderone wrote: Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@twistedmatrix.com added the comment: For example: exar...@boson:~$ python Python 2.6.4 (r264:75706, Dec 7 2009, 18:45:15) [GCC 4.4.1] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. class x(object): ... def __reduce__(self): ... import os ... return os.system, ('echo Hello from sploitland',) ... import pickle pickle.loads(pickle.dumps(x())) Hello from sploitland 0 But here you are not transferring malicious code in the pickle string, you are just triggering the execution of such code that you already have (and are in control of). Without the definition of class x on the receiving side, there would be no exploit. By adding support for pickling code objects, you'd make it possible to place the definition of class x into the pickle string and you would no longer be in control of that code. Hmm, I just tried the code and it seems that you're right: The pickle string does not contain a reference to class x, but only the name of the function to call. Wow, that's a huge hole in Python's pickle system... ... def __reduce__(self): ... import os ... return os.system, ('echo Bingo',) ... import pickle pickle.dumps(C()) 'cposix\nsystem\np0\n(S\'echo Bingo\'\np1\ntp2\nRp3\n.' C = None s = 'cposix\nsystem\np0\n(S\'echo Bingo\'\np1\ntp2\nRp3\n.' pickle.loads(s) Bingo 0 -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Marc-Andre Lemburg rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: .. Hmm, I just tried the code and it seems that you're right: The pickle string does not contain a reference to class x, but only the name of the function to call. Wow, that's a huge hole in Python's pickle system... That's why we have a big red Warning: The pickle module is not intended to be secure against erroneous or maliciously constructed data. Never unpickle data received from an untrusted or unauthenticated source. in the docs. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Marc-Andre Lemburg m...@egenix.com added the comment: Alexander Belopolsky wrote: Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Marc-Andre Lemburg rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: .. Hmm, I just tried the code and it seems that you're right: The pickle string does not contain a reference to class x, but only the name of the function to call. Wow, that's a huge hole in Python's pickle system... That's why we have a big red Warning: The pickle module is not intended to be secure against erroneous or maliciously constructed data. Never unpickle data received from an untrusted or unauthenticated source. in the docs. Good :-) I've never used .__reduce__() and wasn't aware of the fact that it can be used to run arbitrary code without relying on the defining class. I also like Antoine's idea of pickling the function/method name instead of the whole code object. This is in line with PEP 307 (http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0307/) which already uses the approach for classic class objects, Python functions, etc. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@twistedmatrix.com added the comment: I also like Antoine's idea of pickling the function/method name instead of the whole code object. I like it too. That's why I suggested it in the first comment on the ticket (read the linked code). I guess Alexander likes it too, since he basically said as much in the second comment. ;) -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: There's already issue558238 on the same topic. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Jean-Paul Calderone rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@twistedmatrix.com added the comment: I also like Antoine's idea of pickling the function/method name instead of the whole code object. I like it too. That's why I suggested it in the first comment on the ticket (read the linked code). I guess Alexander likes it too, since he basically said as much in the second comment. ;) Yes, I think we have a consensus on this point. Note, however that since unbound methods have been removed in 3.x, it is not trivial to find a fully qualified name of a method anymore. Also we need to decide where to stop: should methods of nested classes be pickleable? -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment: Yes, I think we have a consensus on this point. Note, however that since unbound methods have been removed in 3.x, it is not trivial to find a fully qualified name of a method anymore. I suppose only bound methods should be pickleable: class C: ... def m(self): pass ... c = C() c.m bound method C.m of __main__.C object at 0x7fa81299b150 c.m.__self__.__module__ '__main__' And perhaps class methods too: class C: ... @classmethod ... def cm(self): pass ... C.cm bound method type.cm of class '__main__.C' C.cm.__self__ class '__main__.C' C.cm.__self__.__module__ '__main__' Also we need to decide where to stop: should methods of nested classes be pickleable? As we want, but they needn't be. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Changes by Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr: -- nosy: +hinsen, loewis, obamausa8, rhettinger ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@twistedmatrix.com added the comment: Note, however that since unbound methods have been removed in 3.x, it is not trivial to find a fully qualified name of a method anymore. This is a rather sad loss of functionality. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
Alexandre Vassalotti alexan...@peadrop.com added the comment: The security issue mentioned previously has been known for years. And, it is easy to protect against. See http://docs.python.org/py3k/library/pickle.html#restricting-globals Also I am against adding pickling support to code objects. Code objects have no backward-compatibility constraint unlike pickles. Antoine is right about we should be using a method fully-qualified name to pickle it. However, the problem with this approach is a method doesn't always have fully-qualified name (see issue3657). ForkingPickler in Lib/multiprocessing/forking.py uses this approach to add pickling support to methods. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue9276] pickle should support methods
New submission from Jean-Paul Calderone exar...@twistedmatrix.com: pickle doesn't support methods: class x: ... def y(self): ... pass ... import pickle pickle.dumps(x.y) Traceback (most recent call last): File stdin, line 1, in module File /home/exarkun/Projects/python/branches/py3k/Lib/pickle.py, line 1314, in dumps Pickler(f, protocol, fix_imports=fix_imports).dump(obj) _pickle.PicklingError: Can't pickle class 'function': attribute lookup builtins.function failed It would be easy to fix this, though. Here's a link to some code that implements it: http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/browser/trunk/twisted/persisted/styles.py?rev=1 -- components: Library (Lib) messages: 110473 nosy: exarkun priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: pickle should support methods type: feature request ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue9276 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com