[ANN] rpncalc-2.2 RPN Calculator for Python
The rpncalc package adds an interactive Reverse Polish Notation (RPN) interpreter to Python. This interpreter allows the use of Python as an RPN calculator. You can easily switch between the RPN interpreter and the standard Python interpreter. Home page: http://calcrpnpy.sourceforge.net/ Changes in 2.2 * Display only 12 digits of a mpf or cmpf value. * Added stats function. * Added chebyshev module. * Added solve command. * Simplified installing user functions into the calculator. * Added on-line help. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations.html
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Dr. Dobb's Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Dec 2)
QOTW: Python makes it easy to implement algorithms. - casevh Most of the discussion of immutables here seems to be caused by newcomers wanting to copy an idiom from another language which doesn't have immutable variables. Their real problem is usually with binding, not immutability. - Mike Meyer Among the treasures available in The Wiki is the current copy of the Sorting min-howto: http://www.amk.ca/python/howto/sorting/sorting.html Dabo is way cool--at least as of release 0.5: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/becf84a4f8b3d34/ Tim Golden illustrates that wmi is *not* the only way to access win32 functionality, and in fact that Python can mimic VisualBasicScript quite handily. It's only mimicry, though; VBS remains better suited for this specific class of tasks: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/fa84850666488500/ Claudio Grondi explains ActiveX componentry--OCXs, the registry, apartments, ...--for a Python audience: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/471306f2d6f6927/ Dao is a novel high-level language which advertises strong multi-threading, Unicode, and particularly comfortable C++ interfacing. Limin Fu provides details: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/4418fac8dda696d9/ Donn Cave leads at least a score of others in comparing lists and tuples: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/dd6ba8df451d57e0? Everything Python-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages: Python.org's Python Language Website is the traditional center of Pythonia http://www.python.org Notice especially the master FAQ http://www.python.org/doc/FAQ.html PythonWare complements the digest you're reading with the marvelous daily python url http://www.pythonware.com/daily Mygale is a news-gathering webcrawler that specializes in (new) World-Wide Web articles related to Python. http://www.awaretek.com/nowak/mygale.html While cosmetically similar, Mygale and the Daily Python-URL are utterly different in their technologies and generally in their results. For far, FAR more Python reading than any one mind should absorb, much of it quite interesting, several pages index much of the universe of Pybloggers. http://lowlife.jp/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/PythonProgrammersWeblog http://www.planetpython.org/ http://mechanicalcat.net/pyblagg.html comp.lang.python.announce announces new Python software. Be sure to scan this newsgroup weekly. http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djqas_ugroup=comp.lang.python.announce Steve Bethard, Tim Lesher, and Tony Meyer continue the marvelous tradition early borne by Andrew Kuchling, Michael Hudson and Brett Cannon of intelligently summarizing action on the python-dev mailing list once every other week. http://www.python.org/dev/summary/ The Python Package Index catalogues packages. http://www.python.org/pypi/ The somewhat older Vaults of Parnassus ambitiously collects references to all sorts of Python resources. http://www.vex.net/~x/parnassus/ Much of Python's real work takes place on Special-Interest Group mailing lists http://www.python.org/sigs/ Python Success Stories--from air-traffic control to on-line match-making--can inspire you or decision-makers to whom you're subject with a vision of what the language makes practical. http://www.pythonology.com/success The Python Software Foundation (PSF) has replaced the Python Consortium as an independent nexus of activity. It has official responsibility for Python's development and maintenance. http://www.python.org/psf/ Among the ways you can support PSF is with a donation. http://www.python.org/psf/donate.html Kurt B. Kaiser publishes a weekly report on faults and patches. http://www.google.com/groups?as_usubject=weekly%20python%20patch Cetus collects Python hyperlinks. http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_python.html Python FAQTS http://python.faqts.com/ The Cookbook is a collaborative effort to capture useful and interesting recipes. http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python Among several Python-oriented RSS/RDF feeds available are http://www.python.org/channews.rdf http://bootleg-rss.g-blog.net/pythonware_com_daily.pcgi http://python.de/backend.php For more, see http://www.syndic8.com/feedlist.php?ShowMatch=pythonShowStatus=all The old Python To-Do List now lives principally in a SourceForge reincarnation.
Re: Trouble with idle from python 2.4.2 on SUSE linux 9.3
Alasdair wrote: I've just installed python 2.4.2 from source - it works fine from the command line. But when I attempt to start idle, I am told: ** IDLE can't import Tkinter. Your Python may not be configured for Tk. ** I have tcl 8.4 and tk 8.4 on my system; can anybody provide me with some advice? I think you need to install the tcl-devel and tk-devel packages, too. Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to execute an EXE via os.system() with spaces in the directory name?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to run an exe within a python script, but I'm having trouble with spaces in the directory name. ... So, it looks to me like the space in the path for the argument is causing it to fail. Does anyone have any suggestions that could help me out? Does C:\progra~1\somedi~1\engine\theexe.exe still work? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!
On Dec 3, 2005, at 3:37 PM, Scott David Daniels wrote: They appear in different positions on different terminals (older hard- copy), Is anyone still using such devices to program Python? do different things on different OS's, Such as? I use OS X, Windows and Linux daily, and tabs work just fine on all of those. Which OS is it that is aberrant, and how exactly does it pose a problem? and in general do not behave nicely. Again, specifics would be welcome. I've been using tabs for indentation for over a decade, and have not once run into the horror stories that everyone who hates tabs says will happen, but who never give specifics as to how they cause problems. If you want to use spaces, great. I'm certainly not going to make up reasons why spaces are bad, just to make me feel better about my preference. Just don't make general damning comments without any specifics to back them up. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!
On Dec 3, 2005, at 5:55 PM, Sybren Stuvel wrote: That depends on your editor. Mine (vim) can be instructed to insert the appropriate amount of spaces on a tab, and remove them on a backspace. So let's say that you are using 4 spaces as your standard, but by accident type 5. You hit backspace, which deletes 4 spaces, and you now have to mentally compute the difference in order to keep things aligned. See, I can make up bizarre scenarios where spaces cause problems, too. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Tabs bad (Was: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!)
Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Again, specifics would be welcome. I've been using tabs for indentation for over a decade, and have not once run into the horror stories that everyone who hates tabs says will happen, but who never give specifics as to how they cause problems. This article should explain it: http://www.jwz.org/doc/tabs-vs-spaces.html -- Björn Lindström [EMAIL PROTECTED] Student of computational linguistics, Uppsala University, Sweden -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Trouble with idle from python 2.4.2 on SUSE linux 9.3
Thanks - that did the trick! I wonder why it's not mentioned in the README, or (so far as I can tell) anywhere else? -Alasdair -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Problem build python bindings to lasso with swig on mac os x
Hi! This involves quite a lot of different system, so I'm not really sure who which would be the right list to query. So, I'm trying a couple, this list being one of them. I'm trying to build the lasso (http://lasso.entrouvert.org/) libraries and what I really want to get at is the Python bindings. Those binding are done with the help of swig and it fails with the following output: gcc -o .libs/_lasso.so -bundle .libs/_lasso_la-lasso_wrap.o -L/sw/ lib -L/Users /rolandhedberg/src/libxml2-2.6.22 -L/usr/local/lib -L/lib ../ lasso/.libs/liblasso .dylib /usr/lib/libiconv.dylib /usr/lib/libpthread.dylib /usr/lib/ libz.dylib /usr /lib/libm.dylib /usr/lib/libssl.dylib /usr/lib/libcrypto.dylib /usr/ local/lib/lib dl.dylib /usr/lib/libresolv.dylib /usr/local/lib/ libgobject-2.0.dylib /usr/lib/li bc.dylib /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.dylib /usr/local/lib/ libintl.dylib /usr/local /lib/libxmlsec1-openssl.dylib /usr/local/lib/libxmlsec1.dylib -ldl / usr/local/lib /libxslt.dylib /usr/local/lib/libxml2.dylib -lpthread -lz /sw/lib/ libiconv.dylib -lm -lssl -lcrypto /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.dylib -Wl,-F. -Wl,-F. /usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols: _PyArg_ParseTuple _PyCObject_AsVoidPtr _PyCObject_FromVoidPtrAndDesc _PyCObject_GetDesc _PyCObject_Type _PyDict_SetItemString _PyErr_NewException _PyErr_Occurred _PyErr_SetObject _PyErr_SetString _PyExc_IOError _PyExc_IndexError _PyExc_MemoryError _PyExc_NameError _PyExc_OverflowError _PyExc_RuntimeError _PyExc_SyntaxError _PyExc_SystemError _PyExc_TypeError _PyExc_ValueError _PyExc_ZeroDivisionError _PyFloat_FromDouble _PyInt_AsLong _PyInt_FromLong _PyModule_AddObject _PyModule_GetDict _PyObject_CallObject _PyObject_GetAttr _PyObject_SetAttrString _PyString_FromString _PyType_Type _Py_BuildValue _Py_InitModule4 __Py_NoneStruct collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[1]: *** [_lasso.la] Error 1 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 To me it looks like there is a missing library somewhere, but then I might be wrong. I've tried with different versions of swig 1.3.21 - 1.3.27 with the same result. It's the 0.6.3 version of lasso I'm trying to build. Comments ? -- Roland -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
enter and event
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Re: Instances behaviour
Mr.Rech wrote: and so on. The problem I'm worried about is that an unaware user may create an instance of A supposing that it has any real use, while it is only a sort of prototype. However, I can't see (from my limited point of view) any other way to rearrange things and still get a similar behaviour. 1) Document your class is not intended for public use. 2) Make your A class private of the module that defines it. A simple way is putting an underscore in front of its name. 3) Make your A class non-functional. I assume B and C have methods that A doesn't. Then, add those methods to A too, but not implement them: def foo(self): Foo this and that. Must be implemented in subclasses. raise NotImplementedError -- Giovanni Bajo -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
want to get the pointer of any python object in C++, but I Failed.
Hello all
I am trying to call the method of python object. But I dont know
how to transfer the pointer of the python object into c++ .
the C++ method to receive python object pointer :
static PyObject*
ReceivePythonPointer(PyObject* self, PyObject* args)
{
PyObject* temp=NULL ;
//translate into C++ pointer, but Failed, the temp is null
if ( PyArg_ParseTuple(args, 0, tmp) )
{
//tmp
}
}
to call c method in the following python script:
class foo:
def __init__(self):
ReceivePythonPointer(self)
def Func(self):
print 'Func'
f1 foo
Is it impossible to get the pointer of C object when
ReceviePythonPointer is Called?
I want to get the pointer of f1 object, Can you give me some advice ?
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oval
I tested the following code and wanted to get the message of oval2
got hit if I click the red one. But I always got oval1 got hit.
from Tkinter import *
root=Tk()
canvas=Canvas(root,width=100,height=100)
canvas.pack()
a=canvas.create_oval(10,10,20,20,tags='oval1',fill='blue')
b=canvas.create_oval(50,50,80,80,tags='oval2',fill='red')
def myEvent(event):
if a:
print oval1 got hit!
else:
print oval2 got hit
canvas.tag_bind('oval1','Button',func=myEvent)
canvas.tag_bind('oval2','Button',func=myEvent)
root.mainloop()
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Re: urllib on windows machines
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've got a strange problem on windows (not very familiar with that OS).
I can ping a host, but cannot get it via urllib (see here under).
I can even telnet the host on port 80.
Thus network seems good, but not for python ;-(.
Does any windows specialist can guide me (a poor linux user) to get
Network functionalitiies with python on windows ?
I'm runnning on Windows XP (sorry to not give more, I don't know the
equivalent of uname).
I'm using standard (msi) python-2.4.2
Thanks.
test.py contains the following lines:
import urllib
g=urllib.urlopen('http://www.google.com')
C:\Temppython test.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File test.py, line 2, in ?
g=urllib.urlopen('http://www.google.com')
File c:\william\tools\python24\lib\urllib.py, line 77, in urlopen
return opener.open(url)
File c:\william\tools\python24\lib\urllib.py, line 185, in open
return getattr(self, name)(url)
File c:\william\tools\python24\lib\urllib.py, line 308, in
open_http
h.endheaders()
File c:\william\tools\python24\lib\httplib.py, line 795, in
endheaders
self._send_output()
File c:\william\tools\python24\lib\httplib.py, line 676, in
_send_output
self.send(msg)
File c:\william\tools\python24\lib\httplib.py, line 643, in send
self.connect()
File c:\william\tools\python24\lib\httplib.py, line 627, in connect
raise socket.error, msg
IOError: [Errno socket error] (10053, 'Software caused connection
abort')
C:\Tempping www.google.com
Pinging www.l.google.com [66.249.93.104] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 66.249.93.104: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=246
Reply from 66.249.93.104: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=246
Reply from 66.249.93.104: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=246
Reply from 66.249.93.104: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=246
Ping statistics for 66.249.93.104:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 22ms, Maximum = 23ms, Average = 22ms
Something is clearly wrong. here's *my* XP system connecting to Google:
C:\Stevepython
Python 2.4.1 (#65, Mar 30 2005, 09:13:57) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] on
win32
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
import urllib
f = urllib.urlopen('http://www.google.com')
len(f.read())
2690
I suspect you may have a firewall problem: you could need to tell your
(XP Service Pack 2 personal) firewall it's OK for Python to make
outbound network connections.
regards
Steve
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Colorize expanded tabs
Hi all,
from a string embedding tabs I want to colorize them when expanded:
# Starting from a string:
a= '1234\t5678\t\t90\nqwerty\nasdfg'
# which embeds both tabs and lfs
# printing it you obtain:
print a
# 1234567890
# qwerty
# asdfg
# print automatically expands tabs and interprets the NL.
# to colorize the expanded tabs, I tried:
print a.replace('\t',\033[41m\t\033[0m) # 41 = red color
# instead it works (in Linux) for the \n (substituted with a red
space):
print a.replace('\n',\033[41m \033[0m\n)
Can you help me?
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Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!
Dave Hansen wrote: It's far more interesting to me _why_ people think indentation scoping is a bad thing. The answer I get back fall into two general categories: 1) I've heard/read/been told it's a bad thing, and 2) It causes portability problems. I can tell you why it freightened me at first: it made me think of the rigid formatting of Fortran 77 and to a lesser extent BASIC. But when I started working my way trough the tutorial, that fear very rapidly vanished. -- If I have been able to see further, it was only because I stood on the shoulders of giants. -- Isaac Newton Roel Schroeven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: regexp non-greedy matching bug?
Mike Meyer wrote: ^ must match the beginning of the string (BTW, you can get the same behavior by leaving off the ^ and using search instead of match). that's backwards, isn't it? using ^ with match is usually pointless (since match only looks at the first position anyway), and using ^ with search is also usually pointless... (the only time you really need ^ is in certain multiline searches; depending on what flags you use, ^ can match not only at the beginning of a string, but also after each newline character in the target string) /F -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: oval
Ben Bush wrote:
I tested the following code and wanted to get the message of oval2
got hit if I click the red one. But I always got oval1 got hit.
from Tkinter import *
root=Tk()
canvas=Canvas(root,width=100,height=100)
canvas.pack()
a=canvas.create_oval(10,10,20,20,tags='oval1',fill='blue')
b=canvas.create_oval(50,50,80,80,tags='oval2',fill='red')
def myEvent(event):
if a:
Here is your problem. a is a name, bound to some value. So - it is true,
as python semantics are that way. It would not be true if it was e.g.
False, [], {}, None,
What you want instead is something like
if event.source == a:
...
Please note that I don't know what event actually looks like in Tkinter,
so check the docs what actually gets passed to you.
Regards,
Diez
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Re: regexp non-greedy matching bug?
John Hazen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
To do what you said you want to do, you want to use the split method:
foo = re.compile('foo')
if 2 = len(foo.split(s)) = 3:
print We had one or two 'foo's
Well, this would solve my dumbed down example, but each foo in the
original expression was a stand-in for a more complex term.
That actually doesn't matter. Just replace 'foo' with your more
complex term.
foo2 = re.compile(r'foo(\d+)bar')
I was using
match groups to extract the parts of the match that I wanted. Here's an
example (using Tim's correction) that actually demonstrates what I'm
doing:
s = 'zzzfoo123barxxxfoo456baryyy'
s2 = 'zzzfoo123barxxxfooyyy'
foobar2 = re.compile(r'^.*?foo(\d+)bar(.*foo(\d+)bar)?.*$')
print foobar2.match(s).group(1)
123
print foobar2.match(s).group(3)
456
foo2.split('zzzfoo123barxxxfoo456baryyy')
['zzz', '123', 'xxx', '456', 'yyy']
print foobar2.match(s2).group(1)
123
print foobar2.match(s2).group(3)
None
foo2.split('zzzfoo123barxxxfooyyy')
['zzz', '123', 'xxxfooyyy']
Looking at re.split, it doesn't look like it returns the actual matching
text, so I don't think that fits my need.
split() returns the text matched by groups in the pattern used to do
the split, and is documented as doing so. The solution you gave
doesn't return the actual matching text for the instances, but just
the text in the groups inside that text - which is exactly what
split() returns.
While on that topic, I'll note that the solution Tim gave you doesn't
solve the problem as I originally understood it, either. You said you
wanted to match one or two instances, which I read as only one or two
instances, so that more than two instances would be treated as a
failure. On rereading it, I can see where I was wrong.
As the founder of SPARE...
Hmm, not a very effective name. A google search didn't fing any obvious
hits (even after adding the python qualifier, and removing spare time
and spare parts hits). (I couldn't find it off your homepage,
either.)
That's the Society for the Prevention of Abuse of Regular
Expressions. One of these days, my proof-reader will get back to me
and I'll add a link about it to my home page.
mike
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Re: want to get the pointer of any python object in C++, but I Failed.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to call the method of python object. But I dont know
how to transfer the pointer of the python object into c++ .
the C++ method to receive python object pointer :
static PyObject*
ReceivePythonPointer(PyObject* self, PyObject* args)
{
PyObject* temp=NULL ;
//translate into C++ pointer, but Failed, the temp is null
if ( PyArg_ParseTuple(args, 0, tmp) )
{
//tmp
}
}
use the letter O (for object), not the digit 0.
adding some error checking would also be a good idea. if PyArg_ParseTuple
returns false, Python's exception state is set. you can use the PyErr_Print
function to print the exception traceback (this is very useful during debugging,
at least).
/F
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Re: How to execute an EXE via os.system() with spaces in the directory name?
Leif K-Brooks wrote: It's perfectly reasonable behavior, and it also applies to Linux. The shell uses spaces to separate arguments; how do you expect it to know that you want a space to be part of the program's name unless you escape it? I'm sorry, disregard my message. I failed to read the OP properly. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to execute an EXE via os.system() with spaces in the directory name?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This comes up from time to time. The brain damage is all Windows', not Python's. It's perfectly reasonable behavior, and it also applies to Linux. The shell uses spaces to separate arguments; how do you expect it to know that you want a space to be part of the program's name unless you escape it? Here's one thread which seems to suggest a bizarre doubling of the initial quote of the commandline. A better solution would be to use subprocess: http://python.org/doc/current/lib/module-subprocess.html. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Tabs bad (Was: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!)
Björn Lindström enlightened us with: This article should explain it: http://www.jwz.org/doc/tabs-vs-spaces.html To me it doesn't. I use a single tab character for a single indent levell. That is unambiguous, and also ensures the file is indented as the reader likes it. People who have their tab size set to 'n' will see n-space sized indents, No matter what setting, the order of the indents is kept. This is not the case if tabs and spaces are intermixed, as some style guides suggest. Sybren -- The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Most SHAMEFUL one-liner:
I was looking through some code of my today and noticed this little gem I wrote a few days back that I had totally forgot about: fill = [(%%-%ds\n % (columns - 1)) % for i in range(yoffset - 2)] ...and then I went on to do: .join(fill) Talk about using the wrong tool for the job... :( All I needed was: * (columns - 1) * (yoffset - 2) Anyone else remember any shameful one-liners like this? :) I'm just curious to see what kinda mistakes people make you think about a solution WAY TO HARD... :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!
This is amazing. Python could take over the programming world except one of it's best features (scope by indent) is a primary reason why it never will. It's not flexible enough. A large percentage of programmers won't even try the language. And even amongst Python enthusiast who appreciate the feature (me included) we can't agree on how to use it. Python is too flexible. And nobody else sees the need for change? Oh, except those who think Tabs are evil and should no longer be allowed. How about (1) add some more flexibility for optional braces and (2) add a formatting tool so I can reformat Python code to the correct style? Python is just a program, not a religion. Unless... Tabs really are evil. John -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Scientific Notation
You mean something like: print '%e' % (1e50) 1.00e+50 ...? No, I mean given a big number, such as 1000, convert it into scientific notation. It's the same. print %e % 1000 1.00e+51 one would have assumed that someone who *prefers* to use scientific notation for large numbers would in fact know that, but the usenet never ceases to sur- prise me... /F -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: regexp non-greedy matching bug?
Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike Meyer wrote: ^ must match the beginning of the string (BTW, you can get the same behavior by leaving off the ^ and using search instead of match). that's backwards, isn't it? using ^ with match is usually pointless (since match only looks at the first position anyway), and using ^ with search is also usually pointless... Yup, you're right. The '^' was redundant in the OP's post. mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Detect character encoding
Hello, is there any way how to detect string encoding in Python? I need to proccess several files. Each of them could be encoded in different charset (iso-8859-2, cp1250, etc). I want to detect it, and encode it to utf-8 (with string function encode). Thank you for any answer Regards Michal -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!
Ed Leafe wrote: That depends on your editor. Mine (vim) can be instructed to insert the appropriate amount of spaces on a tab, and remove them on a backspace. So let's say that you are using 4 spaces as your standard, but by accident type 5. You hit backspace, which deletes 4 spaces, and you now have to mentally compute the difference in order to keep things aligned. See, I can make up bizarre scenarios where spaces cause problems, too. what's bizarre is that you're using an editor that don't understand how blocks work in the language you're editing. (in good python editor, tab means move to next indentation level and backspace over a virtual tab means move to previous indentation level. if indentation is represented by spaces or tabs or both in the resulting file is a serialization issue...) /F -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to execute an EXE via os.system() with spaces in the directoryname?
Peter Hansen wrote: It can't all be Windows' brain damage, since typing precisely the same command at the prompt (at least with the example I'm using) doesn't require doubling the initial quote of the command line. Or, more precisely, Windows is brain damaged in at least two different places here, and the shell is only one of them... the system function in the C runtime library function simply runs the following command: %COMSPEC% /c command where COMSPEC usually points to cmd.exe. so in the normal case, it's up to cmd.exe to parse the command string. it uses the following algorithm to decide if it should remove quotes from the command string (for compatibility with command.com?), or if they're better left in place: cmd /? ... 1. If all of the following conditions are met, then quote characters on the command line are preserved: - no /S switch - exactly two quote characters - no special characters between the two quote characters, where special is one of: ()@^| - there are one or more whitespace characters between the the two quote characters - the string between the two quote characters is the name of an executable file. 2. Otherwise, old behavior is to see if the first character is a quote character and if so, strip the leading character and remove the last quote character on the command line, preserving any text after the last quote character. ... /F -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Request opinion on web application framework
Hello, I am new to web programming but have some experience in technical programming in Python and other languages. I need to build a networked program which I would like to first deploy on an intranet and later on the web which provides access to a few technical applications, two document management systems (simple types), a database search tool and maybe in the future a groupware client. All data will be stored in a database. I want a common portal for all of these functions. Can anyone recommend a web framework for such an application? I have looked a little and most seem to focus on CMS type applications instead of technical programs. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Regards. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!
you're about 10 years late The same could be said for hoping that the GIL will be eliminated. Utterly hopeless. Until... there was PyPy. Maybe now it's not so hopeless. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: distutils problem windows xp python 2.4.2
Hello Scott, It didn't work with visual studio 5. .Net framework 2.0 Do you have any suggestions? Thanks, pujo -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Python could take over the programming world except one of it's best features (scope by indent) is a primary reason why it never will. It's not flexible enough. A large percentage of programmers won't even try the language. you're about 10 years late for this kind of trolling. /F -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Request opinion on web application framework
Thomas wrote: Can anyone recommend a web framework for such an application? I have looked a little and most seem to focus on CMS type applications instead of technical programs. Then IMO you haven't looked hard enough. http://wiki.python.org/moin/WebProgramming There's lots of libraries/frameworks/servers on that page that should fit your needs. I made Snakelets, but Webware, Quixote, Karrigell, CherryPy or the much discussed Turbogears are very interesting too. I don't see why most seem to focus on CMS type apps. Perhaps if you explain a bit better what you want? --Irmen -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Scientific Notation
Thanks for your help, Alex, Roy and Jorge. I'm new to Python, and programming in general, which might explain my lack of knowledge, Fredrick. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python Equivalent to Text::Autoformat
try searching on text wrapping I tried that before I posted. Text::Autoformat does a lot more than textwrap. The fundamental task of the autoformat subroutine is to identify and rearrange independent paragraphs in a text. Paragraphs typically consist of a series of lines containing at least one non-whitespace character, followed by one or more lines containing only optional whitespace. This is a more liberal definition than many other formatters use: most require an empty line to terminate a paragraph. Paragraphs may also be denoted by bulleting, numbering, or quoting . . . Once a paragraph has been isolated, autoformat fills and re-wraps its lines according to the margins that are specified in its argument list. These are placed after the text to be formatted, in a hash reference: It's also sensitive to comment characters in code and so on. But I'll keep looking. Thank you. bs -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Favorite flavor of Linux? (for python or anything else)
Looking to replace my older flavor of linux with something new. . .What are some of your favorites for python programming and anything else? Thanks, -Ivan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: oval
On 12/4/05, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ben Bush wrote:
I tested the following code and wanted to get the message of oval2
got hit if I click the red one. But I always got oval1 got hit.
from Tkinter import *
root=Tk()
canvas=Canvas(root,width=100,height=100)
canvas.pack()
a=canvas.create_oval(10,10,20,20,tags='oval1',fill='blue')
b=canvas.create_oval(50,50,80,80,tags='oval2',fill='red')
def myEvent(event):
if a:
Here is your problem. a is a name, bound to some value. So - it is true,
as python semantics are that way. It would not be true if it was e.g.
False, [], {}, None,
What you want instead is something like
if event.source == a:
...
Please note that I don't know what event actually looks like in Tkinter,
so check the docs what actually gets passed to you.
got AttributeError: Event instance has no attribute 'source'
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QOTW: Python makes it easy to implement algorithms. - casevh Most of the discussion of immutables here seems to be caused by newcomers wanting to copy an idiom from another language which doesn't have immutable variables. Their real problem is usually with binding, not immutability. - Mike Meyer Among the treasures available in The Wiki is the current copy of the Sorting min-howto: http://www.amk.ca/python/howto/sorting/sorting.html Dabo is way cool--at least as of release 0.5: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/becf84a4f8b3d34/ Tim Golden illustrates that wmi is *not* the only way to access win32 functionality, and in fact that Python can mimic VisualBasicScript quite handily. It's only mimicry, though; VBS remains better suited for this specific class of tasks: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/fa84850666488500/ Claudio Grondi explains ActiveX componentry--OCXs, the registry, apartments, ...--for a Python audience: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/471306f2d6f6927/ Dao is a novel high-level language which advertises strong multi-threading, Unicode, and particularly comfortable C++ interfacing. Limin Fu provides details: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/4418fac8dda696d9/ Donn Cave leads at least a score of others in comparing lists and tuples: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/msg/dd6ba8df451d57e0? Everything Python-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages: Python.org's Python Language Website is the traditional center of Pythonia http://www.python.org Notice especially the master FAQ http://www.python.org/doc/FAQ.html PythonWare complements the digest you're reading with the marvelous daily python url http://www.pythonware.com/daily Mygale is a news-gathering webcrawler that specializes in (new) World-Wide Web articles related to Python. http://www.awaretek.com/nowak/mygale.html While cosmetically similar, Mygale and the Daily Python-URL are utterly different in their technologies and generally in their results. For far, FAR more Python reading than any one mind should absorb, much of it quite interesting, several pages index much of the universe of Pybloggers. http://lowlife.jp/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/PythonProgrammersWeblog http://www.planetpython.org/ http://mechanicalcat.net/pyblagg.html comp.lang.python.announce announces new Python software. Be sure to scan this newsgroup weekly. http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djqas_ugroup=comp.lang.python.announce Steve Bethard, Tim Lesher, and Tony Meyer continue the marvelous tradition early borne by Andrew Kuchling, Michael Hudson and Brett Cannon of intelligently summarizing action on the python-dev mailing list once every other week. http://www.python.org/dev/summary/ The Python Package Index catalogues packages. http://www.python.org/pypi/ The somewhat older Vaults of Parnassus ambitiously collects references to all sorts of Python resources. http://www.vex.net/~x/parnassus/ Much of Python's real work takes place on Special-Interest Group mailing lists http://www.python.org/sigs/ Python Success Stories--from air-traffic control to on-line match-making--can inspire you or decision-makers to whom you're subject with a vision of what the language makes practical. http://www.pythonology.com/success The Python Software Foundation (PSF) has replaced the Python Consortium as an independent nexus of activity. It has official responsibility for Python's development and maintenance. http://www.python.org/psf/ Among the ways you can support PSF is with a donation. http://www.python.org/psf/donate.html Kurt B. Kaiser publishes a weekly report on faults and patches. http://www.google.com/groups?as_usubject=weekly%20python%20patch Cetus collects Python hyperlinks. http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_python.html Python FAQTS http://python.faqts.com/ The Cookbook is a collaborative effort to capture useful and interesting recipes. http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python Among several Python-oriented RSS/RDF feeds available are http://www.python.org/channews.rdf http://bootleg-rss.g-blog.net/pythonware_com_daily.pcgi http://python.de/backend.php For more, see http://www.syndic8.com/feedlist.php?ShowMatch=pythonShowStatus=all The old Python To-Do List now lives principally in a SourceForge reincarnation.
Re: Most SHAMEFUL one-liner:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:25:41 -0500, Jeremy Moles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking through some code of my today and noticed this little gem I wrote a few days back that I had totally forgot about: fill = [(%%-%ds\n % (columns - 1)) % for i in range(yoffset - 2)] ...and then I went on to do: .join(fill) Talk about using the wrong tool for the job... :( All I needed was: * (columns - 1) * (yoffset - 2) So the original was wrong as well as a bit opaque? (What happened to the \n ? ;-) Regards, Bengt Richter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: want to get the pointer of any python object in C++, but I Failed.
Thanks for your answer. I cant understand yet. The second parameter is 0 in the python' documentation. Can you give up a piece of code? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
CDDB.py binaries for Python 2.4
Howdy, I'm using Python 2.4 on W2K I would love to use the tools at http://cddb-py.sourceforge.net/ the newest Win binaries are for Python 2.0 The dll won't load, I assume this is due to version mismatch. I'm not set up with a C compiler. Does anyone know of a source of current binaries for this package? Thanks, Kent -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: how to handle two forms in cgi?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dan, Sure. You are right. When I correct this according to your idea, it works now. Thank you very much. But I have second problem. When users run second form, other people can see adress in users' browers and know how to run the second form, so they don't need to run login form. How I can handle this case? How I can let users run login form firstly, then they can run second form(search form)? By the way I use python to write cgi. Any help is appriciated! I'm afraid you are running into what are called session state problems. In other words, your system needs to be able to remember that a user has already successfully visited one page before allowing them to visit another. There are various ways to solve this problem, but most of them revolve around maintaining state information for each different concurrent user of your web. Once a user successfully logs in your record logged in = True or similar in your session state memory, and at the start of each CGI script for which the user is required to be logged in you actually check the state memory to verify that is the case. There are various mechanisms for maintaining session state, many of which rely on serving a cookie to each user's browser. This allows your server to identify which session any particular request is a part of. See if http://starship.python.net/crew/davem/cgifaq/faqw.cgi?req=all#2.11 makes any sense to you. If not, you might want to Google around a bit for things like Python web session to see what you can find. Note there are plenty of web frameworks (e.g. CherryPy, mod_python) that offer assistance with maintaining session state, but it isn't impossible to maintain it yourself in CGI scripts once you understand the problem. Good luck! regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC www.holdenweb.com PyCon TX 2006 www.python.org/pycon/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: want to get the pointer of any python object in C++, but I Failed.
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Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!
Ed Leafe wrote: So let's say that you are using 4 spaces as your standard, but by accident type 5. You hit backspace, which deletes 4 spaces, Nope, it would delete a single space. Then an additional backspace would delete the 4. See, I can make up bizarre scenarios where spaces cause problems, too. Only if you don't know how decent editors behave. :) -- Benji York -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: want to get the pointer of any python object in C++, but I Failed.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I cant understand yet. The second parameter is 0 in the python' documentation. what documentation? the official PyArg_ParseTuple documentation at http://docs.python.org/api/arg-parsing.html uses the letter O (use cut and paste if you don't believe me). /F -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!
Ed Leafe enlightened us with: See, I can make up bizarre scenarios where spaces cause problems, too. You make me glad I'm always using tabs :) Sybren -- The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: distutils problem windows xp python 2.4.2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It didn't work with visual studio 5. .Net framework 2.0 Do you have any suggestions? It didn't work is not very diagnosable. --Scott David Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python Equivalent to Text::Autoformat
On 4 Dec 2005 05:58:08 -0800, BartlebyScrivener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try searching on text wrapping I tried that before I posted. Text::Autoformat does a lot more than textwrap. The fundamental task of the autoformat subroutine is to identify and rearrange independent paragraphs in a text. Paragraphs typically consist of a series of lines containing at least one non-whitespace character, followed by one or more lines containing only optional whitespace. This is a more liberal definition than many other formatters use: most require an empty line to terminate a paragraph. Paragraphs may also be denoted by bulleting, numbering, or quoting . . . Try the formatter module: http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/module-formatter.html Regards, Dan -- Dan Sommers http://www.tombstonezero.net/dan/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Colorize expanded tabs
qwweeeit wrote:
Hi all,
from a string embedding tabs I want to colorize them when expanded:
# Starting from a string:
a= '1234\t5678\t\t90\nqwerty\nasdfg'
# which embeds both tabs and lfs
# printing it you obtain:
print a
# 1234567890
# qwerty
# asdfg
# print automatically expands tabs and interprets the NL.
# to colorize the expanded tabs, I tried:
print a.replace('\t',\033[41m\t\033[0m) # 41 = red color
# instead it works (in Linux) for the \n (substituted with a red
space):
print a.replace('\n',\033[41m \033[0m\n)
Can you help me?
Bye.
If all else fails you can colorize the tabs after converting them to
spaces:
def splititer(text, token):
# A lazy iter(text.split(token)).
# Probably not worth the effort.
start = 0
while True:
try:
end = text.index(token, start)
except ValueError:
break
yield text[start:end]
start = end + len(token)
yield text[start:]
def colortabs(text, tabcolor, normcolor, tabwidth=8):
parts = splititer(text, \t)
part = parts.next()
pos = len(part)
yield part
for part in parts:
width = tabwidth - pos % tabwidth
yield tabcolor
yield * width
yield normcolor
yield part
pos += width + len(part)
print \t1234\t5678\t\t90.replace(\t, \033[41m\t\033[0m)
print .join(colortabs(\t1234\t5678\t\t90, \033[41m, \033[0m))
Peter
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Re: oval
Ben Bush wrote:
On 12/4/05, Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ben Bush wrote:
I tested the following code and wanted to get the message of oval2
got hit if I click the red one. But I always got oval1 got hit.
from Tkinter import *
root=Tk()
canvas=Canvas(root,width=100,height=100)
canvas.pack()
a=canvas.create_oval(10,10,20,20,tags='oval1',fill='blue')
b=canvas.create_oval(50,50,80,80,tags='oval2',fill='red')
def myEvent(event):
if a:
Here is your problem. a is a name, bound to some value. So - it is true,
as python semantics are that way. It would not be true if it was e.g.
False, [], {}, None,
What you want instead is something like
if event.source == a:
...
Please note that I don't know what event actually looks like in Tkinter,
so check the docs what actually gets passed to you.
got AttributeError: Event instance has no attribute 'source'
Note that Diez said /something/ /like/ /event.source/. The source is
actually called widget -- but that doesn't help as it denotes the canvas as
a whole, not the individual shape.
The following should work if you want one handler for all shapes:
def handler(event):
print event.widget.gettags(current)[0], got hit
canvas.tag_bind('oval1', 'Button', handler)
canvas.tag_bind('oval2', 'Button', handler)
I prefer one handler per shape:
def make_handler(message):
def handler(event):
print message
return handler
canvas.tag_bind('oval1', 'Button', make_handler(oval 1 got hit))
canvas.tag_bind('oval2', 'Button', make_handler(oval 2 got hit))
Peter
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Re: Python Equivalent to Text::Autoformat
BartlebyScrivener wrote: try searching on text wrapping I tried that before I posted. Text::Autoformat does a lot more than textwrap. Sounds like you are describing something known by various names, often including some part of structured text. Try googling for that instead: http://www.google.com/search?q=python+structured+text -Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Detect character encoding
Michal wrote: Hello, is there any way how to detect string encoding in Python? I need to proccess several files. Each of them could be encoded in different charset (iso-8859-2, cp1250, etc). I want to detect it, and encode it to utf-8 (with string function encode). Thank you for any answer Regards Michal The two ways to detect a string's encoding are: (1) know the encoding ahead of time (2) guess correctly This is the whole point of Unicode -- an encoding that works for _lots_ of languages. --Scott David Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: want to get the pointer of any python object in C++, but I Failed.
The bug is filled. I'm fool. Thank's your answer. :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: oval
What you want instead is something like if event.source == a: ... Please note that I don't know what event actually looks like in Tkinter, so check the docs what actually gets passed to you. got AttributeError: Event instance has no attribute 'source' As I said: I don'k _know_ how event actually looks like,a s I'm not a Tkinter-expert, but I've had plenty of projects involving other GUI-Toolkits, which work all the same in this manner. After all the whole purposs of the event parameter is to inform you about the cause for that event - in this case the pressing of a MB on a specific canvas element. But if you'd take it on you to consult the documentation as I asked you to do, I'm pretty sure you find the proper attribute. Regards, Diez -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Detect character encoding
Michal wrote: Hello, is there any way how to detect string encoding in Python? I need to proccess several files. Each of them could be encoded in different charset (iso-8859-2, cp1250, etc). I want to detect it, and encode it to utf-8 (with string function encode). You can only guess, by e.g. looking for words that contain e.g. umlauts. Recode might be of help here, it has such heuristics built in AFAIK. But there is _no_ way to be absolutely sure. 8bit are 8bit, so each file is legal in all encodings. Diez -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: regexp non-greedy matching bug?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Fredrik Lundh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's backwards, isn't it? using ^ with match is usually pointless (since match only looks at the first position anyway), and using ^ with search is also usually pointless... While you're technically correct, I've been bitten too many times by forgetting whether to use match() or search(). I've fixed that problem by choosing to always use search() and combine with ^ as appropriate. -- Aahz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Don't listen to schmucks on USENET when making legal decisions. Hire yourself a competent schmuck. --USENET schmuck (aka Robert Kern) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Request opinion on web application framework
Thomas a écrit : Hello, I am new to web programming but have some experience in technical programming in Python and other languages. I need to build a networked program which I would like to first deploy on an intranet and later on the web which provides access to a few technical applications, two document management systems (simple types), a database search tool and maybe in the future a groupware client. All data will be stored in a database. I want a common portal for all of these functions. Can anyone recommend a web framework for such an application? I have looked a little and most seem to focus on CMS type applications instead of technical programs. Django or Turbogears would be perfect candidates IMHO. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
newbie - needing direction
I'm a newbie, just got through van Rossum's tutorial and I would like to try a small project of my own. Here's the description of my project. When the program starts a light blue semi-transparent area, size 128 by 102, is placed in the middle of the screen. The user can move this area with arrow the keys. When the user hits the Enter key, a magnified picture of the chosen area is shown on the screen (10 times magnification on a 1280 by 1024 monitor). When the user hits the Enter key the program exits leaving the screen as it was before the program started. Could someone direct me what libraries and modules I should study in order to accomplish this. Thanks Bob -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: newbie write to file question
I'm not sure what I'm
missing so I'd appreciate some advice.
You question is pretty general and I'm not going to go over this in any
great detail, but I will make a few comments.
* In your if section use if ... else constructs not all the strange if
and then not if blocks. Also get rid of all those unneeded if's with the
pass in them. They do nothing.
* You may want to put the heart of the code in a separate function or if
you need persistance, use a class. Optional and depends on how complex
your analysis code is going to be. Generally one function should not
be two deep in terms of block nesting for readabilily
and maintainability.
* the table initialization i.e. table = {} was outside of your main file
scan loop, that seemed strange to me since I think you were doing this
file by file.
* your log writing code was indented below the the if sub_three is None:
if block which means that it's inside that block -- that's probably not
what you want. Remember python defines blocks by indentation. The
indentation is a nice feature because python blocking is in fact like
it looks (unlike C++).
* if your parsing XML and maybe SGML the python library has some special
tools for this. You might want to look at the lib or search the net.
Take care,
Rob
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Re: Python Equivalent to Text::Autoformat
Formatter and docutils both look promising. Thanks for providing the terminology to search on. -rpd -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Favorite flavor of Linux? (for python or anything else)
On Sunday 04 December 2005 15:01, Ivan Shevanski wrote: Looking to replace my older flavor of linux with something new. . .What are some of your favorites for python programming and anything else? The operating system/distribution is not connected to the application (Python). It will probably run everywhere. But we recently had this topic and a majority seemed to vote for Ubuntu. I personally prefer Debian. Christoph -- ~ ~ .signature [Modified] 1 line --100%--1,48 All -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: newbie write to file question
ProvoWallis wrote:
...
for root, dirs, files in os.walk(setpath):
fname = files
for fname in files:
inputFile = file(os.path.join(root,fname), 'r')
while 1:
lines = inputFile.readlines(1)
if not lines:
break
for line in lines:
...
Is pretty verbose. Also, open is meant to be the function to use.
Try:
for root, dirs, files in os.walk(setpath):
for fname in files:
inputFile = open(os.path.join(root,fname), 'r')
for line in inputFile:
...
inputFile.close()
There is no point to lines like:
if main is None:
pass
Just drop it.
Perhaps what you meant was:
if main is None:
continue
If so, change:
if main is not None:
table[main.group(1)] = main.group(2)
m = main.group(1)
if main is None:
pass
To:
if main is None:
continue
table[main.group(1)] = main.group(2)
m = main.group(1)
As Rob E pointed out, your postlude has the wrong indentation.
You may want:
for root, dirs, files in os.walk(setpath):
for fname in files:
inputFile = open(os.path.join(root, fname), 'r')
for line in inputFile:
...
inputFile.close()
if table:
name, ext = os.path.splitext(fname)
output_name = name + '.log'
outputFile = open(os.path.join(root, name + '.log'), 'w')
outputFile.write(str(table))
outputFile.close()
table = {}
So that you only write logs if something was found.
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Re: Checking length of each argument - seems like I'm fighting Python
Thank you all for your help. Alex's listify does the job well. I will reconsider using an atomic Thing class with Michaels' safeList. Bengt wins the prize for reducing sLen to one line! I still feel like I'm working against the grain somewhat, (Mike's right, I am coming at this with a C++ mindset) but at least I have tools to do it efficiently :) Brendan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Eclipse best/good or bad IDE for Python?
This is probably a fair answer. My experience: Two years ago I started with Boa till I discovered eric. I have been with eric ever since. Eric uses Qt as GUI. I think both Qt and wx enable you to do pretty much the same thing. I like the work F.Lundh did on Tkinter, but every time I try, I get bogged down in the tcl mess that it builds on. Take the example of the indispensible datagrid: a piece of cake in both Qt and wxWidgets, a nightmare otherwise. Since a couple of weeks I made the tour of wing-ide, komodo and PyDev. PyDev appears really to be a top heavy kludge. Perhaps OK for java lovers but very laborious to set up and work with, this in spite of the abundant hype spam on this board. Wing-ide's debugger stops on imagined errors where eric and komodo do allright. I could not get the designer to run on komodo. So I'm back at eric. On eric you use the superb Qt designer. If you run linux, you get Qt and PyQt with KDE. You can keep on running gnome if you want. For windows, Qt4 is supposed to be free. Further, very extensive and attractive extensions exist: qwt and qwt3d for graphics. This is my experience. If I find better, I'll change. malv -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Tabs bad (Was: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!)
No matter what setting, the order of the indents is kept. This is not the case if tabs and spaces are intermixed, as some style guides suggest. I have never seen anyone suggest mixing tabs and spaces, and I have read a lot of tabs-vs-spaces flamewars in my time. Everyone agrees that mixing is bad. I might even go so far as to say that the only real problem is mixing. The question is, if we are trying to pick only one, which one causes fewer problems. For me, it is spaces. (oh, and unix line endings ;o) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Favorite flavor of Linux? (for python or anything else)
I have been around quite a bit. The best are Gentoo and Debian. However, Python being very much an essential component of your distro, not having Python2.4 as standard kind of eliminates Debian. Running two versions in parallel is not the way to go. Gentoo requires quite a bit of work though. As I have to support several architectures, I looked around at Novell Suse and Ubuntu. Especially if you want flawless notebooks on linux, these two seemed best to me. I kind of discarded Ububtu because of the incompatibility between the compiler coming with the latest version and the kernel. You discover this quickly when trying to compile some kernel modules. Ubuntu is quite nice if your technical demands don't require much. If you're in python, you may one day run into some problem with addons. So Suse is what I use right now. Besides their YAST they now feature Synaptic. Overall, as nice as Ubuntu, somewhat easier with linux system work. I often wonder though whether I should not go back to Gentoo after all. More work, but you never seem to run into problems like with Suse or Ubuntu. Gentoo also has a very nice community always willing to help. Documentation is also very nice at Gentoo. Novell is kind of a mess. FWIW, that's my honest opinion. malv -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: newbie - needing direction
I should maybe mention that I want to this on a win XP computer Bob -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
getting data off a CDrom
Hi there, I'm trying to load data from 2 different CD drives to compare the data on them to see if they are identical. I've found the WinCDRom module online but it doesn't seem to give access to the data at all. The only thing it seems to do is check if there is a readable cd in a specific drive. Any ideas/suggestions/flames? Thanks, Julien -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Putting in an html table
Could someone start me on putting in a table into this code, and some
HTML tags. I would to make the table below the map and have a header at
the top. Thanks for the help.
Publisher example
def query(req, building=):
# NOTE: best way to understand this is to see the output,
# that is, to view source on the generated web page
# read common header for any google mapping
f = file('/home/ta/public_html/maplish/googleHead.html','r')
t = f.read()
f.close()
# define the two buildings we know (because no SQL is done here)
buildings = [ (cb, Cambus Office, -91.552977, 41.659655)
]
buildings += [ (va/hardlib, VA/Hardin Library, -91.549501,
41.662348) ]
buildings += [ (hancher, Hancher Auditorium, -91.538214,
41.669529) ]
buildings += [ (currier, Currier Hall, -91.534996,
41.666163) ]
buildings += [ (schaeffer, Schaeffer Hall, -91.535296,
41.660969) ]
buildings += [ (shospital, South Hospital, -91.548900,
41.658885) ]
str = '' # in case no buildings match, use empty string
for x in buildings:
a,b,c,d = x # isolate all the tuple components into a,b,c,d
if building.lower() == a:
# construct javascript, using Python %s to substitute names
and data
# see http://docs.python.org/lib/typesseq-strings.html if
needed
str = 'var bldg%s = new GPoint( %s, %s);\n' % (a, c, d)
str += 'var mrk%s = new GMarker( bldg%s );\n' % (a, a)
str += 'var htm%s = %s;\n' % (a, b)
str += 'GEvent.addListener(mrk%s,click,function() {' % a
str += 'mrk%s.openInfoWindowHtml(htm%s); });\n' % (a, a)
str += 'map.addOverlay(mrk%s);\n' % a
# output markers, if any
t = t + str
# then add trailing html to finish page
trail = //]] /script /body /html
t = t + trail
return t
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Re: getting data off a CDrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I'm trying to load data from 2 different CD drives to compare the data on them to see if they are identical. I've found the WinCDRom module online but it doesn't seem to give access to the data at all. The only thing it seems to do is check if there is a readable cd in a specific drive. Any ideas/suggestions/flames? If you're on Linux this should do the trick, i think: $ cmp /dev/scd0 /dev/scd1 --Irmen -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Favorite flavor of Linux? (for python or anything else)
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Christoph Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The operating system/distribution is not connected to the application (Python). It will probably run everywhere. But we recently had this topic and a majority seemed to vote for Ubuntu. I personally prefer Debian. Ubuntu *is* Debian, just repackaged. I used to prefer Debian until stable wouldn't work with my newest machine because it was two years out of date (this was *not* a machine with bleeding-edge components). Of course, one can use Debian-testing, but that isn't packaged, and I want a packaged OS. -- Aahz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Don't listen to schmucks on USENET when making legal decisions. Hire yourself a competent schmuck. --USENET schmuck (aka Robert Kern) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Tabs bad (Was: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!)
On 12/4/05, Lee Harr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everyone agrees that mixing is bad. I might even go so far as to say that the only real problem is mixing. The question is, if we are trying to pick only one, which one causes fewer problems. For me, it is spaces. Why is it that the only people who complain about this issue, and who act all religious and self-righteous about it, are the ones who prefer spaces? I never cared one way or the other; I just used spaces because it seemed that everyone else did. I recently switched to tabs because I'm working a lot in Dabo, and they use tabs as their standard. But I must say that listening to the space-zealots here has turned me off to their arguments. My rule-of-thumb is that people only resort to such zealotry when they have nothing better to offer. I've *never* seen any of the problems they cite, and I hate to say how long I've been around. -- # p.d. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: CDDB.py binaries for Python 2.4
Kent Tenney wrote: I would love to use the tools at http://cddb-py.sourceforge.net/ the newest Win binaries are for Python 2.0 I packaged these for you, but they're untested: http://www.develer.com/~rasky/CDDB-1.3.win32-py2.3.exe http://www.develer.com/~rasky/CDDB-1.3.win32-py2.4.exe -- Giovanni Bajo -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: newbie - needing direction
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a newbie, just got through van Rossum's tutorial and I would like to try a small project of my own. Here's the description of my project. When the program starts a light blue semi-transparent area, size 128 by 102, is placed in the middle of the screen. The user can move this area with arrow the keys. When the user hits the Enter key, a magnified picture of the chosen area is shown on the screen (10 times magnification on a 1280 by 1024 monitor). When the user hits the Enter key the program exits leaving the screen as it was before the program started. Could someone direct me what libraries and modules I should study in order to accomplish this. I'd try something easier (with less interaction with Windows). Pygame should provide everything you need for this kind of applications: http://www.pygame.org/ Then you can use pywin32 (http://sourceforge.net/projects/pywin32) to bind to the Windows API and accomplish what you need. -- Giovanni Bajo -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Eclipse best/good or bad IDE for Python?
Though I tried most the above listed IDEs, sticking with a few for awhile, I always find myself gravitating back to the one no one ever mentions: IDLE. It's simple, fast, and with multiple monitors the lack of tabs really isn't much of a problem. The biggest reason I've found myself using IDLE is the colorizing...I've found little support in other editors for builtins having their own color. Granted, I haven't gotten far enough to bother with that in some editors. Eclipse, for example, performs like a dog on my dual opteron workstation w/ 2GB of RAM, which is more than enough to annoy me. I shouldn't have to wait more than about 1 second for an editor to start and then open what is essentially a text file :-P. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Building Python 2.4 on machines that do not support dynamic loading
I have been trying to build python on Cray X1. As far as I can tell it does not support dynamic loading. So the question is: How to build 2.4 without dynamic loading? That is: can I build 2.4 where all the extensions are archived in libpython2.4.a as a static library? Building on the Cray X1 is slow, so I have been trying to also build it under Linux without dynamic loading since it configures/builds so much faster. I edited the configure script so that it doesn't know that dlopen works. The file pyconfig.h undefines HAVE_DYNAMIC_LOADING HAVE_LIBDL and so on. Under linux it still builds .so files but it gives the following message for all .so files: *** WARNING: importing extension dl failed with exceptions.AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'load_dynamic' It seems like it is possible to build python without dynamic loading as someone build python 2.3 on the X1. For various reason I need 2.4, it just not clear what the trick is. I have done some google group and web searching without success so I'm asking all you experts to shine some light in this dark corner. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Detect character encoding
Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michal wrote: is there any way how to detect string encoding in Python? I need to proccess several files. Each of them could be encoded in different charset (iso-8859-2, cp1250, etc). I want to detect it, and encode it to utf-8 (with string function encode). But there is _no_ way to be absolutely sure. 8bit are 8bit, so each file is legal in all encodings. Not quite. Some encodings don't use all the valid 8-bit characters, so if you encounter a character not in an encoding, you can eliminate it from the list of possible encodings. This doesn't really help much by itself, though. mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!
Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: See, I can make up bizarre scenarios where spaces cause problems, too. Only if you don't know how decent editors behave. :) But the same is also true of tabs causing problems :-). mike -- Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Need help on designing a project
Le die Fri, 02 Dec 2005 11:34:45 +, Steve Holden ha scribite: Note that if you are using execfile()then the best structure for your scripts would be something like: conn = db.open() try: #do CGI stuff finally: conn.close() That was of great help! Thanks! -- Saluti, Mardy http://interlingua.altervista.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Detect character encoding
Mentre io pensavo ad una intro simpatica Michal scriveva: Hello, is there any way how to detect string encoding in Python? I need to proccess several files. Each of them could be encoded in different charset (iso-8859-2, cp1250, etc). I want to detect it, and encode it to utf-8 (with string function encode). Thank you for any answer Hi, As you already heard you can't be sure but you can guess. I use a method like this: def guess_encoding(text): for best_enc in guess_list: try: unicode(text,best_enc,strict) except: pass else: break return best_enc 'guess_list' is an ordered charset name list like this: ['us-ascii','iso-8859-1','iso-8859-2',...,'windows-1250','windows-1252'...] of course you can remove charsets you are sure you'll never find. -- Questa potrebbe davvero essere la scintilla che fa traboccare la goccia. |\ | |HomePage : http://nem01.altervista.org | \|emesis |XPN (my nr): http://xpn.altervista.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: CGI module does not parse data
Le die Fri, 02 Dec 2005 12:18:28 -0800, amfr ha scribite: import cgi form = cgi.FieldStorage() print form[test] print test I would only be able to see test, not hello world I am sure its not my browser As Tim said, you have tu use form['test'].value, because print form['test'] will make pythoun output something like this: form object at and your browser won't show it, mistaking it as an HTML tag. -- Saluti, Mardy http://interlingua.altervista.org -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Building Python 2.4 on machines that do not support dynamic loading
Robert McLay wrote: I have been trying to build python on Cray X1. As far as I can tell it does not support dynamic loading. So the question is: How to build 2.4 without dynamic loading? Make sure HAVE_DYNAMIC_LOADING isn't defined; configure should detect this automatically. That is: can I build 2.4 where all the extensions are archived in libpython2.4.a as a static library? Certainly: Edit Modules/Setup to your needs. Regards, Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!
On 12/4/05, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See, I can make up bizarre scenarios where spaces cause problems, too. Only if you don't know how decent editors behave. :) But the same is also true of tabs causing problems :-). I'm starting to suspect that the same people who are zealous about spaces are also the same people who look down on anyone who doesn't agree with their choice of text editor. -- # p.d. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
option argument length
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm using optparse module to parse all options and arguments. My program uses mostly option arguments hence my len(args) value is always zero. I need to check if the user has passed the correct number of option arguments. Something like: (options,args) = parser.parse_args() len(options) != 1 or len(options) 2: print Incorrect number of arguments passed. How do I accomplish it ? Regards, rrs - -- Ritesh Raj Sarraf RESEARCHUT -- http://www.researchut.com Stealing logics from one person is plagiarism, stealing from many is research. Necessity is the mother of invention. Note: Please CC me. I'm not subscribed to the list -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDk1Nh4Rhi6gTxMLwRApx0AJ9XHlWFU1J0NdN02gtvimogUSgDkACgmkOO 2pX8ocoC7pot1a8R4u2BWrY= =piNo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!
Peter Decker wrote: On 12/4/05, Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See, I can make up bizarre scenarios where spaces cause problems, too. Only if you don't know how decent editors behave. :) But the same is also true of tabs causing problems :-). I'm starting to suspect that the same people who are zealous about spaces are also the same people who look down on anyone who doesn't agree with their choice of text editor. Perhaps. As far as editor choice goes, I'm only fervent about people picking a good editor (equivalent to Vim or Emacs) and learning it well. Other than that I don't care. I'm not as diplomatic about tabs. :) -- Benji York -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Detect character encoding
You may want to look at some Python Cookbook recipes, such as http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/52257 Auto-detect XML encoding by Paul Prescod -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Function to retrieve running script
Thanks Mike, that will work just as well... just disappointed in myself that i lack the creativity to think of something that simple ;-) thanks, Harlin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python support in Enterprise Architect 6.0?
Hello, does anyone have any experience with the Python support in the new 6.0 version of Enterprise Architect from Sparx Systems? As I understand, it was eriously broken in earlier versions, so I would like to know whether they managed to fix it by now. TIA, Sincerely, Wolfgang Keller -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: option argument length
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: My program uses mostly option arguments hence my len(args) value is always zero. I need to check if the user has passed the correct number of option arguments. Something like: (options,args) = parser.parse_args() len(options) != 1 or len(options) 2: print Incorrect number of arguments passed. How do I accomplish it ? Just insert an ``if`` in front of the condition and end the program with ``sys.exit()`` after the message. Ciao, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Use python to test Java and Windows (dll) applciations
Hello everybody: I need help, and please let me know if python is the language of choice to implement following functionalities: I am trying to test a Java application and a C++ (win32) application. I want to be able to write python code to mimic user interaction with the application. Interaction could be mouse or keyboard movement/events using which I want to be able to select Menus and execute them. Please let me know if this is feasible using Python, if yes, please refer me to a good resource. Please help. -jay -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Eclipse best/good or bad IDE for Python?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eclipse, for example, performs like a dog on my dual opteron workstation w/ 2GB of RAM, which is more than enough to annoy me. I shouldn't have to wait more than about 1 second for an editor to start and then open what is essentially a text file :-P. And then, due to the excessive project management screen furniture, have to edit it through the keyhole... Paul -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Tabs bad (Was: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!)
On Sun, 4 Dec 2005, [utf-8] Björn Lindström wrote: This article should explain it: http://www.jwz.org/doc/tabs-vs-spaces.html Ah, Jamie Zawinski, that well-known fount of sane and reasonable ideas. It seems to me that the tabs-vs-spaces thing is really about who controls the indentation: with spaces, it's the writer, and with tabs, it's the reader. Does that match up with people's attitudes? Is it the case that the space cadets want to control how their code looks to others, and the tabulators want to control how others' code looks to them? I wonder if there's a further correlation between preferring spaces to tabs and the GPL to the BSDL ... tom Lexicographical PS: 'tabophobia' is, apparently, fear of the neurodegenerative disorder tabes dorsalis. -- 3118110161 Pies-- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: option argument length
Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: My program uses mostly option arguments hence my len(args) value is always zero. I need to check if the user has passed the correct number of option arguments. Something like: (options,args) = parser.parse_args() len(options) != 1 or len(options) 2: print Incorrect number of arguments passed. How do I accomplish it ? Judging from your code sample invention is the mother of that necessity. You can pass a custom Values object with a __len__() method class MyValues: def __len__(self): return len(self.__dict__) # ... options, args = parser.parse_args(values=MyValues()) but you should do your users a favour and give them meaningful error messages. I can't conceive how you could achieve this by checking the number of options. Explicit constraint checks like options, args = parser.parse_args() if options.eat_your_cake and options.have_it: parser.error(Sorry, you cannot eat your cake and have it) will increase your script's usability and make it easier to maintain for only a tiny amount of work. Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Colorize expanded tabs
Hi Peter, thank you for your replay, but I was looking for a very short routine. I even had in mind to use Linux bash (only one command line). It seems that tab expansion, made by print, prevents the working of the escape sequences for colors. In fact, if you replace tab with a given number of spaces, all works well. That is : print \t1234\t5678\t\t90.replace(\t, \033[41m\033[0m) correctly colorizes in red the spaces replacing the tabs... Unfortunately this is not tab expansion! Bye. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Detect character encoding
Mike Meyer wrote: Diez B. Roggisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michal wrote: is there any way how to detect string encoding in Python? I need to proccess several files. Each of them could be encoded in different charset (iso-8859-2, cp1250, etc). I want to detect it, and encode it to utf-8 (with string function encode). But there is _no_ way to be absolutely sure. 8bit are 8bit, so each file is legal in all encodings. Not quite. Some encodings don't use all the valid 8-bit characters, so if you encounter a character not in an encoding, you can eliminate it from the list of possible encodings. This doesn't really help much by itself, though. mike I read or heard (can't remember the origin) that MS IE has a quite good implementation of guessing the language en character encoding of web pages when there not or falsely specified. From what I can remember is that they used an algorithm to create some statistics of the specific page and compared that with statistic about all kinds of languages and encodings and just mapped the most likely. Please be aware that I don't know if the above has even the slightest amount of truth in it, however it didn't prevent me from posting anyway ;-) -- mph -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Favorite flavor of Linux? (for python or anything else)
Looking to replace my older flavor of linux with something new. . .What are some of your favorites for python programming and anything else? Ubuntu is developed by Canonical, a company owned by Mark Shuttleworth. This guy is a fan of both linux and python, so if you want a linux distro that gets along well with python, I guess Ubuntu is the best choice. If you read his website http://www.markshuttleworth.com/, you'll see that this guy encourages development of software in Python, and he even gransts money for developers. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: Dao Language v.0.9.6-beta is release!
On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you're about 10 years late The same could be said for hoping that the GIL will be eliminated. Utterly hopeless. Until... there was PyPy. Maybe now it's not so hopeless. No - structuring by indentation and the global lock are entirely different kettles of fish. The lock is an implementation detail, not part of the language, and barely even perceptible to users; indeed, Jython and IronPython, i assume, don't even have one. Structuring by indentation, on the other hand, is a part of the language, and a very fundamental one, at that. Python without structuring by indentation *is not* python. Which is not to say that it's a bad idea - if it really is scaring off potential converts, then a dumbed-down dialect of python which uses curly brackets and semicolons might be a useful evangelical tool. tom -- 3118110161 Pies -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
