pyspread 0.0.7
pyspread 0.0.7 has been released. -- New features: + CSV import dialog with preview grid Bug fixes: + setup.py now installs correctly into a sub-folder (tested for Linux and WinXP). -- About: pyspread is a spreadsheet that accepts a pure python expression in each cell. -- Highlights: + No non-python syntax add-ons + Access to python modules from cells + 3D grid + Numpy object array for representation of string entry into grid cell + Numpy object array for representation of eval function array + Cell access via slicing of numpy function array + X, Y, and Z yield current cell location for relative reference Requires: Python =2.4, Numpy 1.0.4, and wxPython 2.8.7.1. License: GPL Project page: http://pyspread.sourceforge.net Best Regards Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations.html
[ANN] Python Summer Courses 2008 in Germany
I am pleased to announce Python courses in Germany this summer. The courses will be in Leipzig, Germany from July 21 to 25, 2008. (http://www.python-academy.com/courses/python_summer_course.html) (1) Python for Programmers introduces Python to programmers without or with little knowledge of Python. This course will be given on July 21 and 22, 2008. For course details see: http://www.python-academy.com/courses/python_course_programmers.html (2) Python for Scientists and Engineers will be held from July 23 -- 25, 2008. A detailed course outline can be found here: http://www.python-academy.com/courses/python_course_scientists.html Both courses can be booked individually or jointly. Please register here: http://www.python-academy.com/courses/dates.html You can take advantage of being in Leipzig to attend the first EuroSciPy conference on July 26 and 27, 2008. For more details see: http://www.scipy.org/EuroSciPy2008 Kind regards, Mike Müller (Course Instructor) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations.html
Re: The Importance of Terminology's Quality
Arne Vajhøj wrote: szr wrote: Peter Duniho wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2008 22:40:03 -0700, szr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arne Vajhøj wrote: Stephan Bour wrote: Lew wrote: } John Thingstad wrote: } Perl is solidly based in the UNIX world on awk, sed, } bash and C. I don't like the style, but many do. } } Please exclude the Java newsgroups from this discussion. Did it ever occur to you that you don't speak for entire news groups? Did it occur to you that there are nothing about Java in the above ? Looking at the original post, it doesn't appear to be about any specific language. Indeed. That suggests it's probably off-topic in most, if not all, of the newsgroups to which it was posted, inasmuch as they exist for topics specific to a given programming language. Perhaps - comp.programming might of been a better place, but not all people who follow groups for specific languages follow a general group like that - but let me ask you something. What is it you really have against discussing topics with people of neighboring groups? Keep in mind you don't have to read anything you do not want to read. [1] I very much doubt that the original thread is relevant for the Java group. But the subthread Lew commente don was about Perl and Unix. That is clearly off topic. I agree with and understand what you are saying in general, but still, isn't it possible that were are people in the java group (and others) who might of been following the thread, only to discover (probably not right away) that someone decided to remove the group they were reading the thread from? I know I would not like that, even if it wasn't on topic at the branch. Personally, I find it very annoying to have to switch news groups in order to resume a thread and weed my way down the thread to where it left off before it was cut off from the previous group. -- szr -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Bring object 'out of' Class?
dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello,
I'm currently on the class section of my self-taught journey and have
a question about classes: is it possible to bring a object created
inside the class definitions outside the class so it can be accessed
in the interpreter?
For example, right now I'm working (within Allen Downey's Python
Programmer book) with creating a 'hand' of cards. I want to be able
to deal to 'x' amount of cards to 'x' amount of hands and then be able
to manipulate those hands afterwards. I'm not sure if even what I'm
asking is possible or if I'm getting ahead of myself.
As always, thanks for all your help. My learning is greatly enhanced
with everyone's input on this board. Please feel free to
comment/critique the code...
Here is the section of code that deals hands (but doesn't do anything
past that):
def deal_cards(self, num_of_hands, num):
'''deals x amount of cards(num) to each hand'''
for i in range(num_of_hands):
handname = Hand('hand%d' % i)
self.deal(handname, num)
print '%s' % (handname.label), '\n', handname, '\n'
You need to use a 'return' statement:
def deal_cards(self, num_of_hands, num):
'''deals x amount of cards(num) to each hand'''
hands = []
for i in range(num_of_hands):
newhand = Hand('hand%d' % i)
self.deal(newhand, num)
hands.append(newhand)
print '%s' % (handname.label), '\n', handname, '\n'
return Hand
Then you can write:
hands = deck.deal_cards(4, 5) # On fait une belotte?
And I don't see the need of defining 'Hand' inside 'Deck'.
HTH
--
Arnaud
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Re: File browser in python gui
On 02:48, domenica 01 giugno 2008 TheSaint wrote: I'm gonna back to study a little I'm facing tough time, I can't get clear by Trolltech's C++ examples. I'm a bit puzzled :), I'd like to remain with the QT widget set, but hard learning curve. Other simplified developing TK are giving different widgets, I don't expect to mix up :( -- Mailsweeper Home : http://it.geocities.com/call_me_not_now/index.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Merging ordered lists
On May 31, 10:00 pm, etal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's an algorithm question: How should I efficiently merge a collection of mostly similar lists, with different lengths and arbitrary contents, while eliminating duplicates and preserving order as much as possible? I would do it two steps. There's a number of ways to merge depending on whether everything is pulled into memory or not: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/491285 http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/305269 After merging, the groupby itertool is good for removing duplicates: result = [k for k, g in groupby(imerge(*sources))] Raymond -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The Importance of Terminology's Quality
On Sat, 31 May 2008 23:27:35 -0700, szr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] But the subthread Lew commente don was about Perl and Unix. That is clearly off topic. I agree with and understand what you are saying in general, but still, isn't it possible that were are people in the java group (and others) who might of been following the thread, only to discover (probably not right away) that someone decided to remove the group they were reading the thread from? I know I would not like that, even if it wasn't on topic at the branch. All due respect, I don't really care if those people find the thread gone. And no one should. Each individual person has a wide variety of interests. A thread that is off-topic in a newsgroup may in fact be concerning a topic of interest for someone who just happened to be reading that newsgroup. The fact that that person might have been interested in it isn't justification for continuing the thread in that newsgroup. The most important question isn't who might have been reading the thread, but rather whether the thread is on-topic. What if someone cross-posted a thread about motorcycle racing in the Perl newsgroup as well as an actual motorcycle racing newsgroup? No doubt, at least some people reading the Perl newsgroup have an interest in motorcycle racing. They may in fact be racers themselves. Those people may have found the thread about motorcycle racing interesting. Does that justify the thread continuing to be cross-posted to the Perl newsgroup? No, of course not. So please. Quit trying to justify a thread being cross-posted to a newsgroup that you aren't even reading just on the sole basis of the remote possibility that someone in that newsgroup was interested in the thread. It's not a legitimate justification, and even if it were, there's been sufficient opportunity for someone here in the Java newsgroup to speak up and say hey, wait! I was reading that! But no one's said anything of the sort. Those people who don't exist have no need for you to provide an irrelevant defense for them. Personally, I find it very annoying to have to switch news groups in order to resume a thread and weed my way down the thread to where it left off before it was cut off from the previous group. If people use the newsgroups responsibly, that never happens. A thread should never be cut-off midstream like that unless it was inappropriately cross-posted in the first place, and if the thread was inappropriately cross-posted in the first place, no one has any business expecting to be able to continue reading it in any newsgroup where it's off-topic. If you're interested in discussions on Perl and Unix, go read a newsgroup about Perl and/or Unix. Don't look for those discussions in the Java newsgroup, and don't get comfy reading the thread in the Java newsgroup should you happen across it. They don't belong, and they should be terminated within the Java newsgroup ASAP. Go follow the thread where it's on-topic. Pete -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The Importance of Terminology's Quality
Peter Duniho wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2008 23:27:35 -0700, szr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] But the subthread Lew commente don was about Perl and Unix. That is clearly off topic. I agree with and understand what you are saying in general, but still, isn't it possible that were are people in the java group (and others) who might of been following the thread, only to discover (probably not right away) that someone decided to remove the group they were reading the thread from? I know I would not like that, even if it wasn't on topic at the branch. All due respect, I don't really care if those people find the thread gone. And no one should. I prefer to be considerate of others. Each individual person has a wide variety of interests. A thread that is off-topic in a newsgroup may in fact be concerning a topic of interest for someone who just happened to be reading that newsgroup. Well if a thread has absolutely no relation to a group, then yes, cross-posting to said group is inappropiate, and setting follow ups may well be warrented. But when there is some relation, sometimes it may be better to mark it as [OT] i nthe subject line, a practice that is sometimes seen, and seems to suffice. What if someone cross-posted a thread about motorcycle racing in the Perl newsgroup as well as an actual motorcycle racing newsgroup? You are comparing apples and oranges now; sure, if you post about motorcycles (to use your example) it would be wildly off topic, but the thread in question was relating to programming (the naming of functions and such) in general. Does that justify the thread continuing to be cross-posted to the Perl newsgroup? No, of course not. but who decides this? And why does said individual get to decide for everyone? So please. Quit trying to justify a thread being cross-posted to a newsgroup that you aren't even reading You do not know what groups I read. And I am not attempting to justify cross posting at all. Rather I am arguing against deciding for a whole news group when a thread should be discontinued. -- szr -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Merging ordered lists
etal wrote: Here's an algorithm question: How should I efficiently merge a collection of mostly similar lists, with different lengths and arbitrary contents, while eliminating duplicates and preserving order as much as possible? My code: def merge_to_unique(sources): Merge the unique elements from each list in sources into new list. Using the longest input list as a reference, merges in the elements from each of the smaller or equal-length lists, and removes duplicates. @return: Combined list of elements. sources.sort(None, len, True)# Descending length ref = sources[0] for src in sources[1:]: for i, s in enumerate(src): if s and (ref[i] != s) and s not in ref: ref.insert(ref.index(src[i-1])+1, s) # Remove duplicates return [r for i, r in enumerate(ref) if r and r not in ref[i+1:]] This comes up with using the CSV module's DictWriter class to merge a set (list, here) of not-quite-perfect CSV sources. The DictWriter constructor needs a list of field names so that it can convert dictionaries into rows of the CSV file it writes. Some of the input CSV files are missing columns, some might have extras -- all of this should be accepted, and the order of the columns in the merged file should match the order of the input files as much as possible (not alphabetical). All of the list elements are strings, in this case, but it would be nice if the function didn't require it. Speed actually isn't a problem yet; it might matter some day, but for now it's just an issue of conceptual aesthetics. Any suggestions? #untested import difflib def _merge(a, b): sm = difflib.SequenceMatcher(None, a, b) for op, a1, a2, b1, b2 in sm.get_opcodes(): if op == insert: yield b[b1:b2] else: yield a[a1:a2] def merge(a, b): return sum(_merge(a, b), []) def merge_to_unique(sources): return reduce(merge, sorted(sources, key=len, reverse=True)) Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Merging ordered lists
Hi! Use set (union). Example: la=[2,1,3,5,4,6] lb=[2,8,6,4,12] #compact: print list(set(la).union(set(lb))) #detail: s1 = set(la) s2 = set(lb) s3 = s1.union(s2) print list(s3) @-salutations Michel Claveau -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SMS sending and receiving from website?
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 5:08 PM, globalrev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can i send and receive messages from a website using python? how would that work with costs? would the mobileowner pay both ways? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list I believe that there is a way to use Django to send messages, but I've never used it myself and I don't know about recieving messages. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Merging ordered lists
Peter Otten wrote: #untested Already found two major blunders :( # still untested import difflib def _merge(a, b): sm = difflib.SequenceMatcher(None, a, b) for op, a1, a2, b1, b2 in sm.get_opcodes(): if op == insert: yield b[b1:b2] elif op == replace: yield a[a1:a2] yield b[b1:b2] else: # delete, equal yield a[a1:a2] def merge(a, b): return sum(_merge(a, b), []) def merge_to_unique(sources): return unique(reduce(merge, sorted(sources, key=len, reverse=True))) def unique(items): u = set(items) if len(u) == len(items): return items result = [] for item in items: if item in u: result.append(item) u.remove(item) return result -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Getting up and running with Python on a Mac
On 29 maj 2008, at 22.57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just bought an iMac (OS X 10.5.2, will almost immediately jump to 10.5.3), and am looking to install Python on it, and to use it with There is no need to install Python. It's distributed with the system. XCode, Apple's IDE. Some googling suggests that a number of people have had trouble getting Python to run satisfactorily on their Macs. This is my first Mac, and I'd appreciate some guidance on what to do (and what not to) when installing Python and potential problems to keep an eye open for. I want to do a fair bit of scientific / numerical computing, so it would seem that SAGE ot the Enthought Python distribution would seem to be the most relevant - I'd appreciate your guidance on getting Python to run on a Mac with a particular focus on these two distributions. Thank you in advance Thomas Philips -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- What is a woman that you forsake her, and the hearth fire and the home acre, to go with the old grey Widow Maker. --Kipling, harp song of the Dane women Tommy Nordgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Merging ordered lists
Hi! Use set (union). Example: la=[2,1,3,5,4,6] lb=[2,8,6,4,12] #compact: print list(set(la).union(set(lb))) #detail: s1 = set(la) s2 = set(lb) s3 = s1.union(s2) print list(s3) @-salutations Michel Claveau -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
python's setuptools (eggs) vs ruby's gems survey/discussion
Can we open up the discussion here about how to improve setuptools which has become the de facto standard for distributing / installing python software. I've been playing around with ruby's gems which seems to be more more mature and usable. From my perspective, the relative immaturity of setuptools and its simultaneous widespread use is a clear python weakness and can make python less easy to absorb than it should be. A few questions (please add more) so far are: (1) Should setuptools be standard? (2) What bugs you most about the current featureset? (3) Which features do you need the most (list in order of need)? (4) Shouldn't we just port gems to python? (5) What's the best community process to improve setuptools? (6) What's your ideal conception of the 'standard python package manager? To give this discussion some ammunition, I will post the output of the different '--help' for either tool: == SETUPTOOLS == C:\TMPeasy_install --help Global options: --verbose (-v) run verbosely (default) --quiet (-q)run quietly (turns verbosity off) --dry-run (-n) don't actually do anything --help (-h) show detailed help message Options for 'easy_install' command: --prefix installation prefix --zip-ok (-z) install package as a zipfile --multi-version (-m) make apps have to require() a version --upgrade (-U) force upgrade (searches PyPI for latest versions) --install-dir (-d) install package to DIR --script-dir (-s) install scripts to DIR --exclude-scripts (-x) Don't install scripts --always-copy (-a) Copy all needed packages to install dir --index-url (-i) base URL of Python Package Index --find-links (-f) additional URL(s) to search for packages --delete-conflicting (-D) no longer needed; don't use this --ignore-conflicts-at-my-risk no longer needed; don't use this --build-directory (-b) download/extract/build in DIR; keep the results --optimize (-O)also compile with optimization: -O1 for python -O, -O2 for python -OO, and -O0 to disable [default: -O0] --record filename in which to record list of installed files --always-unzip (-Z)don't install as a zipfile, no matter what --site-dirs (-S) list of directories where .pth files work --editable (-e)Install specified packages in editable form --no-deps (-N) don't install dependencies --allow-hosts (-H) pattern(s) that hostnames must match --local-snapshots-ok (-l) allow building eggs from local checkouts usage: easy_install-script.py [options] requirement_or_url ... or: easy_install-script.py --help == GEMS == C:\TMPgem --help RubyGems is a sophisticated package manager for Ruby. This is a basic help message containing pointers to more information. Usage: gem -h/--help gem -v/--version gem command [arguments...] [options...] Examples: gem install rake gem list --local gem build package.gemspec gem help install Further help: gem help commandslist all 'gem' commands gem help examplesshow some examples of usage gem help platforms show information about platforms gem help COMMAND show help on COMMAND (e.g. 'gem help install') Further information: http://rubygems.rubyforge.org C:\TMPgem help commands GEM commands are: build Build a gem from a gemspec cert Manage RubyGems certificates and signing settings check Check installed gems cleanup Clean up old versions of installed gems in the local repository contents Display the contents of the installed gems dependencyShow the dependencies of an installed gem environment Display information about the RubyGems environment fetch Download a gem and place it in the current directory generate_indexGenerates the index files for a gem server directory help Provide help on the 'gem' command install Install a gem into the local repository list Display gems whose name starts with STRING lock Generate a lockdown list of gems mirrorMirror a gem repository outdated Display all gems that need updates pristine Restores installed gems to
Re: Good grid + calendar, etc.?
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 06:00:03 -0700 (PDT), Mike Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recall that there is an advanced calendar widget that's been made by one of the regulars on the wxPython list, but it's not a part of the official distribution at this time. You'll have to ask about calendar widgets and such there though. The impression I get, is that those extra widgets (besides the usual edit, listbox, etc.) aren't really developped/maintained, which is a problem when comitting for applications that will have to be developped for a few years. For instance, is there a calendar in wxPython that has this look and feel, and is under active development? http://www.devexpress.com/Products/VCL/ExScheduler/ The grid can be quite advanced. Did you look at the wxPython demo? Or Dabo? Yes, but although the basic wigets are just fine, wxGrid looks a bit like the basic TStringGrid in Delphi, ie. it's pretty basic so that several vendors came up with enhanced alternatives. But maybe I haven't played with it long enough. www.asiplease.net/computing/delphi/images/string_grid_demo_popstars.gif It lacks sorting capability, merging cells with the same content, etc. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [Business apps for Windows] Good grid + calendar, etc.?
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 21:59:29 +0900, Ryan Ginstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wxPython can be made to look pretty nice. Check out Chandler for an example. http://chandlerproject.org/ Yup, they developped some nice-looking widgets, but it doesn't seem like there's an ecosystem around wxWidgets. I, for one, wouldn't mind paying for widgets missing from the stock version. If you don't mind being Windows-only, there's another approach that I've been working on. Thanks for the idea, but I don't have the skills for something like that :-) Besides, the reason for Python is to make it faster/easier to write apps, so WTL + browser + COM seems too hard for me. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Need Tutorial For the following lib
On Jun 1, 1:41 pm, Larry Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gandalf wrote: Hi scott, you couldn't be more wrong about my laziness. I straggle with my poor English for hours to fined what I'm looking for. I found a very simple and not comprehensive tutorial for the pyWinAuto lib in this addresshttp://pywinauto.openqa.org/ but it only show how to do the basic, and my knowledge at this point is not enough to figure the rest I need to know by myself I found another simple lib for the watsup that based on winGuiAuto lib in this address http://www.tizmoi.net/watsup/intro.html But for some risen I couldn't manage to ran it in my computer I'm trying to generate auto mouse double click or auto selecting text (the selecting text part is the one I interest in. mouse double click just do the same effect if the mouse cursor is on text) I'm sorry you feel I'm lazy. The truth is that event writing this message takes me an enormous power. weather you choose to help me or not I still going to keep trying , But you have the opportunity to save me lots of trouble, So maybe one day I could help others. so if you familiar with any good tutorial for this library please let me know and if not then thank you anyway for wonting to help Y.G What you want is an easy solution to what isn't an easy problem, but (as with your other post) you refuse to provide enough information to allow us to help you. If I were you, I would download wxPython and go through the demos that it includes. comp.python.wxpython list is excellent (at least as good as this one) for any follow-up questions. Windows events and mouse clicks are going to take a concerted effort (on your part) to learn (especially if you haven't accomplished such a task in another language). -Larry Hi, Larry. thank you for your interaction. I did manage to do half of the things I was asking you about them. I manage to create an application which react to a mouse and keyboard events that occur anywhere in the O.P (that done easily by the phHook library here http://mindtrove.info/articles/monitoring-global-input-with-pyhook/#toc-references ) And I manage to find lib which auto generate event they event show you with video how simple it's to get done http://pywinauto.openqa.org/ and this is the video. it's interesting http://showmedo.com/videos/video?name=UsingpyWinAutoToControlAWindowsApplicationfromSeriesID=7 The only problem is that they show only how to automatically open notepad. they have this DoubleClick method as I saw in the documentation (i think this is what I'm looking for) but they don't show how to use it. I'm telling you that because I believe it's not as complex as you think it is. I think I'm close. if i could just fine a manual which show more examples or a bit more information i can do this. Thank you -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: method-wrapper?
What is method-wrapper? Google turns up hardly any hits, same with searching python.org. It probably means that one object (A) contains another object (B). When you call certain methods on object A, those methods call methods in B, and return B's results to A's caller. From that docstring: A.__call__() will run B() A.__cmp__(C) will run cmp(B, C) etc. In other words python code which runs A() will be running the equivalent of A.B(), where A can do other things besides calling B() if it wants to. David. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [Business apps for Windows] Good grid + calendar, etc.?
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 21:27:30 +0900, Ryan Ginstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For your stated needs, I'd advise checking out IronPython or Python.NET (which allow use of .NET GUI libraries). Thanks but I forgot to say that I'd rather not use .Net because deployment/updates are too problematic for our audience. .. that's assuming that a GUI Python can install/update itself as easily as eg. Delphi, which is where I could be wrong :-/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Merging ordered lists
etal wrote: Speed actually isn't a problem yet; it might matter some day, but for now it's just an issue of conceptual aesthetics. Any suggestions? Looks as if set does it for you. -- Taekyon -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
RE: [Business apps for Windows] Good grid + calendar, etc.?
On Behalf Of Gilles Ganault Is it hopeless, or did I overlook things? Are there other solutions I should look at (FLTK, etc.)? For those of you writing business apps in Python for Windows, how do things go as far as GUI widgets are concerned? To do a bit of shameless plugging, I wrote an overview of Python GUI platforms for Windows a month or two ago: http://ginstrom.com/scribbles/2008/02/26/python-gui-programming-platforms-fo r-windows/ For your stated needs, I'd advise checking out IronPython or Python.NET (which allow use of .NET GUI libraries). Regards, Ryan Ginstrom -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
[Business apps for Windows] Good grid + calendar, etc.?
Hello Since Python is such a productive language, I'd really like to be able to use it to write GUI apps for Windows, but business apps require rich widgets like (DB)grids, calendars, etc. The ones available in wxWidgets looked a bit too basic compared to what's available for eg. Delphi or .Net, and don't seem to be under active development (lots of 1.0, Last updated 2005, etc.) For instance, here's wxGrid and DevExpress' grid for Delphi: http://www.simpol.com/guiimages/wxgrid.jpg http://community.devexpress.com/blogs/thinking/PrintingXtraPivotGridForm.png Is it hopeless, or did I overlook things? Are there other solutions I should look at (FLTK, etc.)? For those of you writing business apps in Python for Windows, how do things go as far as GUI widgets are concerned? Thank you. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
RE: [Business apps for Windows] Good grid + calendar, etc.?
On Behalf Of Gilles Ganault Thanks but I forgot to say that I'd rather not use .Net because deployment/updates are too problematic for our audience. .. that's assuming that a GUI Python can install/update itself as easily as eg. Delphi, which is where I could be wrong :-/ wxPython can be made to look pretty nice. Check out Chandler for an example. http://chandlerproject.org/ Delphi has a truly impressive ecosystem of controls and widgets. If there were a commercial market for wxPython/wxWidgets widgets, I'm sure we'd get a bunch of very nice ones as well. There is kind of an analog with the bounty program for developing widgets, but it doesn't appear very active. If you don't mind being Windows-only, there's another approach that I've been working on. I use a WTL application to host the web browser, then pass the browser instance to a COM server written in Python, along with a COM wrapper of the application window. This gives me the flexibility of HTML + JavaScript + Python, but eliminates two of the big issues with web apps: latency and lack of Windows conventions like keyboard shortcuts and Drag Drop. I've yet to deploy this approach in an application, but from my prototypes I'm liking it. Regards, Ryan Ginstrom -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Ann: Pyparsing 1.5.0 released
I've just uploaded to SourceForge the latest update to pyparsing, version 1.5.0. This version includes a number of long-awaited features, so I thought it was time to bump the minor rev version. - parsing a complete string without having to add StringEnd() to the pyparsing grammar, by adding parseAll argument to the parseString method (default value is False to maintain compatibility with prior versions, set to True to force parsing of the full input string) - support for indentation-based grammars (like Python's), using a new helper method, indentedBlock. - improved syntax error detection and reporting, based on the ErrStop class submitted by Eike Welk on the pyparsing forum, and Thomas/Poldy's proposal on the pyparsing wiki; the CHANGES file includes a detailed example showing how syntax errors can be designated by using '-' instead of '+' operators Pyparsing 1.5.0 also includes a number of bug-fixes, described in more detail in the CHANGES file. (Despite my best efforts, I have *not* been able to include support for Python 3.0 using a common source code base. For those who wish to try out pyparsing with Python 3.0, there is a file pyparsing_py3.py in the SourceForge Subversion repository. I have done some testing of this code, but many of my unit tests still need to be converted to Python 3.) Download pyparsing 1.5.0 at http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyparsing/. The pyparsing Wiki is at http://pyparsing.wikispaces.com -- Paul Pyparsing is a pure-Python class library for quickly developing recursive-descent parsers. Parser grammars are assembled directly in the calling Python code, using classes such as Literal, Word, OneOrMore, Optional, etc., combined with operators '+', '|', and '^' for And, MatchFirst, and Or. No separate code-generation or external files are required. Pyparsing can be used in many cases in place of regular expressions, with shorter learning curve and greater readability and maintainability. Pyparsing comes with a number of parsing examples, including: - Hello, World! (English, Korean, Greek, and Spanish(new)) - chemical formulas - configuration file parser - web page URL extractor - 5-function arithmetic expression parser - subset of CORBA IDL - chess portable game notation - simple SQL parser - Mozilla calendar file parser - EBNF parser/compiler - Python value string parser (lists, dicts, tuples, with nesting) (safe alternative to eval) - HTML tag stripper - S-expression parser - macro substitution preprocessor - TAP output parser (new) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Need Tutorial For the following lib
Gandalf wrote: Hi scott, you couldn't be more wrong about my laziness. I straggle with my poor English for hours to fined what I'm looking for. I found a very simple and not comprehensive tutorial for the pyWinAuto lib in this address http://pywinauto.openqa.org/ but it only show how to do the basic, and my knowledge at this point is not enough to figure the rest I need to know by myself I found another simple lib for the watsup that based on winGuiAuto lib in this address http://www.tizmoi.net/watsup/intro.html But for some risen I couldn't manage to ran it in my computer I'm trying to generate auto mouse double click or auto selecting text (the selecting text part is the one I interest in. mouse double click just do the same effect if the mouse cursor is on text) I'm sorry you feel I'm lazy. The truth is that event writing this message takes me an enormous power. weather you choose to help me or not I still going to keep trying , But you have the opportunity to save me lots of trouble, So maybe one day I could help others. so if you familiar with any good tutorial for this library please let me know and if not then thank you anyway for wonting to help Y.G What you want is an easy solution to what isn't an easy problem, but (as with your other post) you refuse to provide enough information to allow us to help you. If I were you, I would download wxPython and go through the demos that it includes. comp.python.wxpython list is excellent (at least as good as this one) for any follow-up questions. Windows events and mouse clicks are going to take a concerted effort (on your part) to learn (especially if you haven't accomplished such a task in another language). -Larry -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python's setuptools (eggs) vs ruby's gems survey/discussion
On Jun 1, 4:47 am, Alia Khouri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can we open up the discussion here about how to improve setuptools which has become the de facto standard for distributing / installing python software. I've been playing around with ruby's gems which seems to be more more mature and usable. From my perspective, the relative immaturity of setuptools and its simultaneous widespread use is a clear python weakness and can make python less easy to absorb than it should be. A few questions (please add more) so far are: Oh boy. (1) Should setuptools be standard? Shamelessly speaking as someone who does no wish to enter this particular niche of Python: I would hope the Python community can do better. (2) What bugs you most about the current featureset? 1. setuptools will download and install dependencies on the user's behalf, without asking, by default. It can be disabled, but I think it's extremely rude: it should ask by default. 2. One cannot simply import modules from packages that use entry_points: you have to go through package resources. Very annoying. 3. Tools such as py2exe don't work with packages that use entry_points except with some hand tweaks (at least as of the last time I tried). One might suggest that py2exe should learn how to include setuptools models, but I don't think people who write tools like py2exe ought to be burdened with it. py2exe was possible because the import mechanism was theretofore so straightforward. FWIW, I've abandoned usage of a package that used entry points because of this issue. (3) Which features do you need the most (list in order of need)? Not that my needs are all important, but: 1. Works. 2. Ability to install to unusual locations (BIG) 3. Packages can be installed separately by hand if the user so desires (copying to site directory, hand editing if necessary) 4. Ability to easily specify compiler options when rebuilding extension modules. 5. Handles data files reasonably (4) Shouldn't we just port gems to python? Fine with me, some new blood would be useful here. (5) What's the best community process to improve setuptools? Have the BDFL declare that it's the official Python package manager. Of course, I hope if it ever comes to that the BDFL will pronounce something else to be the official Python package manager, preferrably something that isn't based on distutils. Hope this discussion can be constructive. In any case, I do appreciate the effort that went into creating setuptools (Thanks Phillip J. Eby :-). It's existence is clearly better than otherwise. I don't agree. It's probably better than otherwise for enterprise applications, which is the environment for which it was designed. For instance, entry points and dependency bookkeeping are useful in such environments, since there are policies to ensure consistent and reasonable usage. For open source, mom-and-pop operations, and other smaller projects, I think it adds a whole lot of complexity over what otherwise is a simple thing. Carl Banks -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
SPOJ, Problem Code: sumtrian, Reducing time taken to solve.
Hi, I was trying to solve the sumtrian problem in the SPOJ problem set ( https://www.spoj.pl/problems/SUMTRIAN/ ) and this is the solution I submitted: http://pastebin.ca/1035867 The result was, Your solution from 2008-06-01 15:13:06 to problem SUMTRIAN, written in Python, has exceeded the allowed time limit. I suspect that the first portion of my solution which looks at the input, figures out the number of triangles and forms a list that contains lists containing each row of the triangle, is wrong. I am not too sure how to optimize it. I would appreciate help. Thanks, Shriphani Palakodety -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Good grid + calendar, etc.?
On Jun 1, 6:59 am, Gilles Ganault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Since Python is such a productive language, I'd really like to be able to use it to write GUI apps for Windows, but business apps require rich widgets like (DB)grids, calendars, etc. The ones available in wxWidgets looked a bit too basic compared to what's available for eg. Delphi or .Net, and don't seem to be under active development (lots of 1.0, Last updated 2005, etc.) For instance, here's wxGrid and DevExpress' grid for Delphi:http://www.simpol.com/guiimages/wxgrid.jpghttp://community.devexpress.com/blogs/thinking/PrintingXtraPivotGridF... Is it hopeless, or did I overlook things? Are there other solutions I should look at (FLTK, etc.)? For those of you writing business apps in Python for Windows, how do things go as far as GUI widgets are concerned? Thank you. The wxPython GUI is updated much more often than the Tkinter toolkit. I recall that there is an advanced calendar widget that's been made by one of the regulars on the wxPython list, but it's not a part of the official distribution at this time. You'll have to ask about calendar widgets and such there though. The grid can be quite advanced. Did you look at the wxPython demo? Or Dabo? Mike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SMS sending and receiving from website?
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:08 PM, globalrev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can i send and receive messages from a website using python? how would that work with costs? would the mobileowner pay both ways? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list I use smstools for this. Homepage: http://smstools3.kekekasvi.com/ Debian installer: http://packages.debian.org/sid/smstools David. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python's setuptools (eggs) vs ruby's gems survey/discussion
On 1 Jun, 10:47, Alia Khouri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can we open up the discussion here about how to improve setuptools which has become the de facto standard for distributing / installing python software. I've been playing around with ruby's gems which seems to be more more mature and usable. I'm sure people also regard Perl's CPAN-related tools and infrastructure to be more mature and usable, but I'd like to widen the discussion beyond language-specific package and dependency management. From my perspective, the relative immaturity of setuptools and its simultaneous widespread use is a clear python weakness and can make python less easy to absorb than it should be. A few questions (please add more) so far are: (1) Should setuptools be standard? (2) What bugs you most about the current featureset? (3) Which features do you need the most (list in order of need)? I'm not really in your target audience for these questions since I never use setuptools: instead, I use the Debian-based package and dependency management provided by my system. If any of the system packages use setuptools, it's to build packages in such a way that they resemble classic distutils package installations. However, I do work in environments where I do have to install packages to non-system locations manually. Even in such situations, the packages I tend to use employ a plain distutils-based setup script, and I'm not completely sure that I'd want to use setuptools/ easy_install, since aside from some dependency management (which I doubt extends to various non-Python libraries) it doesn't provide compelling advantages over distutils like uninstallation, for example. (4) Shouldn't we just port gems to python? (5) What's the best community process to improve setuptools? (6) What's your ideal conception of the 'standard python package manager? Well, I don't deny the utility of a Python package manager given that it could be useful for people who use systems which don't provide system package/dependency management (at least in a consistent or widely-deployed fashion) or who have to work without taking advantage of system packages (whether it be due to privileges or issues with decisions taken by the package maintainers), but the most important thing from my perspective is that it should complement and co-operate with system packaging activities. Although distutils is often derided for its architecture and for some odd usability issues, it does take away a lot of the tedious work required when laying out installations for subsequent packaging. Perhaps efforts should be directed towards the distutils type of work, making it easier to install things like documentation and non-code resources, potentially even employing a different architecture: once upon a time, Python libraries were installed using a Makefile-based scheme, and there are plenty of Makefile-like tools and libraries written in Python [1]. In addition, there should be efforts which integrate this packaging with the existing range of package and dependency managers: it shouldn't be the case that one only considers a Python-only dependency manager, because that just leads to the usual reinvention of what has been done before, plus those people packaging for Debian, Fedora, *BSD and so on won't see any benefit from what has been done. Indeed, it shouldn't be inconceivable that a Python-only dependency management solution might be based on existing tools and infrastructure, rather than trying to figure out issues like reliability and redundancy all over again. I note that the overlap between various mature projects of this nature and the distutils community seems to be minimal. Once again, I suggest that people take advantage of the expertise and experience built up in other projects and communities, and not merely those whose products conveniently resemble a preconceived notion of what such a solution should be in the Python world. CPAN and friends and all their baggage are not universally applicable, and any consideration merely of such solutions will produce a setuptools successor whose relevance is just as limited as its predecessor. Paul [1] http://wiki.python.org/moin/ConfigurationAndBuildTools -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
the pipe reading in Thread dose not work.
#!/usr/bin/env python # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- import string, sys from threading import Thread import os import time class test_pipe(Thread): def __init__(self, fd): Thread.__init__(self) self.testfd = fd def run(self): print started thread begin - while True: buf = self.testfd.read() print receive %s % (buf) time.sleep(1) #print hoho if __name__ == __main__: stdin_r, stdin_w = os.pipe() #stdout_r, stdout_w = pipe() f_w = os.fdopen(stdin_w, w, 0) thrd = test_pipe(os.fdopen(stdin_r, r, 0)) thrd.start() time.sleep(1) while True: f_w.write(help\r\n) time.sleep(1) thrd.join() well, I want the following small test about pipe() in thread(). OK, I write to the pipe in the main thread, and I created a new thread for reading from the pipe, then it will print what it received from the pipe(). But, it seems it block at the self.testfd.read(). So, is there and suggestion and explaination about it? Thanks in advance. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python's doc problems: sort
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to emphasize a point here, as i have done quite emphatically in the past. The Python documentation, is the world's worst technical writing. As far as technical writing goes, it is even worse than Perl's in my opinion. I think that this claim says more about its author than it does about its subject. Welcome to my killfile. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
RE: [Business apps for Windows] Good grid + calendar, etc.?
Ryan, snip If you don't mind being Windows-only, there's another approach that I've been working on. I use a WTL application to host the web browser, then pass the browser instance to a COM server written in Python, along with a COM wrapper of the application window. This gives me the flexibility of HTML + JavaScript + Python, but eliminates two of the big issues with web apps: latency and lack of Windows conventions like keyboard shortcuts and Drag Drop. /snip Instead of the COM approach, have you considered using a local, client based Python server as a container for your business logic and GUI (DHTML, AJAX)? This would give you a cross platform solution, without the typical browser/server latency, and via techniques like AJAX, perhaps more of a desktop look and feel? I haven't done this yet, but I'm grappling with the same question (how to create sexy looking business applications using Python). Malcolm -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
RE: [Business apps for Windows] Good grid + calendar, etc.?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Instead of the COM approach, have you considered using a local, client based Python server as a container for your business logic and GUI (DHTML, AJAX)? This would give you a cross platform solution, without the typical browser/server latency, and via techniques like AJAX, perhaps more of a desktop look and feel? I haven't done this yet, but I'm grappling with the same question (how to create sexy looking business applications using Python). I have used a cherrypy server wrapped with py2exe for a desktop server app, but the local server in the browser solution has some weaknesses. Drag and drop is one. Another is native dialog boxes. A third is problems with firewalls. And although you can do keyboard shortcuts with Ajax, the mechanism isn't quite the same. Also, using COM you can manipulate the DOM from Python, removing the need for AJAX. In that case, your only need for JavaScript would be for prebuilt library functionality (assuming you like Python better than JavaScript). Regards, Ryan Ginstrom -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Integrating a code generator into IDLE
Code generators seem to be popular in Python. (http://www.google.com/search?q=python+code-generator) I have one that I'd like to integrate into IDLE. Ideally, I'd like to (1) have a new file type show up when I use the File/Open dialog, and (2) have a function key that lets me run my generator against the file, just like F5 lets me run my Python code; ideally, I'd like to re-purpose the F5 key to be file-type aware. I've got a simple extension written that uses the F6 key to compile my files, but two goals I've listed seem a bit beyond me. Does anyone have any advice/pointers? Or is one or both ideas impractical? Thanks! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Bring object 'out of' Class?
On 6/1/08, Arnaud Delobelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[..]
def deal_cards(self, num_of_hands, num):
'''deals x amount of cards(num) to each hand'''
for i in range(num_of_hands):
handname = Hand('hand%d' % i)
self.deal(handname, num)
print '%s' % (handname.label), '\n', handname, '\n'
You need to use a 'return' statement:
def deal_cards(self, num_of_hands, num):
'''deals x amount of cards(num) to each hand'''
hands = []
for i in range(num_of_hands):
newhand = Hand('hand%d' % i)
self.deal(newhand, num)
hands.append(newhand)
print '%s' % (handname.label), '\n', handname, '\n'
return Hand
Should be: return hands
Then you can write:
hands = deck.deal_cards(4, 5) # On fait une belotte?
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Re: [Business apps for Windows] Good grid + calendar, etc.?
On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:24:17 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead of the COM approach, have you considered using a local, client based Python server as a container for your business logic and GUI (DHTML, AJAX)? But web-based apps are even worse, since the set of widgets is even more basic, and web programming is hell. That's why I don't bother, and write fat apps instead. It'd be awesome if someone came up with a commercial offer of widgets that are either missing or not feature-rich enough in wxPython for real business apps. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [Business apps for Windows] Good grid + calendar, etc.?
On 19:59, domenica 01 giugno 2008 Gilles Ganault wrote: require rich widgets like (DB)grids, calendars, etc. Qt seems to go a bit further. Try Eric4 as SDK. -- Mailsweeper Home : http://it.geocities.com/call_me_not_now/index.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
ANN: equivalence 0.1
Equivalence is a class that can be used to maintain a partition of
objects into equivalence sets, making sure that the equivalence
properties (reflexivity, symmetry, transitivity) are preserved. Two
objects x and y are considered equivalent either implicitly (through a
key function) or explicitly by calling merge(x,y).
Get it from pypi: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/equivalence/
Example
===
Say that you are given a bunch of URLs you want to download and
eventually process somehow. These urls may contain duplicates, either
exact or leading to a page with the same content (e.g. redirects,
plagiarized pages, etc.). What you'd like is identify duplicates in
advance so that you can process only unique pages. More formally, you
want to partition the given URLs into equivalence sets and pick a
single representative from each set.
Getting rid of identical URLs is trivial. A more general case of URLs
that can be easily identified as duplicates can be based on some
simple regular expression based heuristics, so that for instance
'http://python.org/doc/' and 'www.python.org/doc/index.html' are
deemed equivalent. For this case you may have a normalize(url)
function that reduces a URL into its stem (e.g. 'python.org/doc')
and use this as a key for deciding equivalence.
This is fine but it still leaves quite a few URLs that cannot be
recognized as duplicates with simple heuristics. For these harder
cases you may have one or more oracles (an external database, a page
comparison program, or ultimately a human) that decides whether pages
x and y are equivalent. You can integrate such oracles by explicitly
declaring objects as equivalent using Equivalence.merge(x,y).
Both implicit (key-based) and explicit information are combined to
maintain the equivalence sets. For instance:
from equivalence import Equivalence
dups = Equivalence(normalize) # for an appropriate normalize(url)
dups.merge('http://python.org/doc/', 'http://pythondocs.com/')
dups.are_equivalent('www.pythondocs.com/index.htm',
'http://python.org/doc/
index.html')
True
You can find more about the API in the included docs and the unittest
file.
Regards,
George
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Re: Integrating a code generator into IDLE
On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 10:40:09 -0500, Sam Denton wrote: Code generators seem to be popular in Python. I don't think so. Ciao, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Conjunction List
On May 31, 8:01 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://codepad.org/MV3k10AU
I want to write like next one.
def conjunction(number=a[1],name=b[1],size=c[1]):
flag = a[0]==b[0]==c[0]
if flag:
for e in zip(number,name,size):
print e
conjunction(a,b,c)
-
function args receive sequence element:
def somefunc(name=elm1[1], size=elm2[1], color=elm3[1]):
for e in zip(name, size, color):
print e,
conjunction(a,b,c)
-
not like two case:
-
def somefunc(elm1, elm2, elm3):
name = elm1[1]; size = elm1[1]; color = elm1[1] # best solution?
for e in zip(name, size, color):
print e,
conjunction(a,b,c)
-
def somefunc(elm1, elm2, elm3, **attr):
for e in zip(attr['name'], attr['size'], attr['color']):
print e,
conjunction(a,b,c, name=a[1], size=b[1], color=c[1]) # many args...
-
What's a good approach to get the conjunction nest-list-data?
The one you comment with best solution? is ok for this example. If
you dislike the repetitive part of setting the flag and getting the
second element of each argument, or especially if you want to
generalize it to more than three arguments, here's one way to do it:
def conjunction(*args):
if not args: return
first = args[0][0]
if all(arg[0]==first for arg in args):
for e in zip(*(arg[1] for arg in args)):
print e
conjuction(a,b,c)
('0', 'one', '0%')
('1', 'two', '50%')
('2', 'three', '100%')
HTH,
George
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Re: Good grid + calendar, etc.?
On Jun 1, 8:28 am, Gilles Ganault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 06:00:03 -0700 (PDT), Mike Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recall that there is an advanced calendar widget that's been made by one of the regulars on the wxPython list, but it's not a part of the official distribution at this time. You'll have to ask about calendar widgets and such there though. The impression I get, is that those extra widgets (besides the usual edit, listbox, etc.) aren't really developped/maintained, which is a problem when comitting for applications that will have to be developped for a few years. That's debatable. While I doubt the author of the widgets on this site is constantly working on them, if you have a problem, he is very responsive and has been known to fix them within hours of the bug report: http://xoomer.alice.it/infinity77/main/freeware.html The Float Canvas widget is also actively maintained by its author. These are just a few examples. For instance, is there a calendar in wxPython that has this look and feel, and is under active development?http://www.devexpress.com/Products/VCL/ExScheduler/ I don't know. You should ask on the wxPython user's list: http://www.wxpython.org/maillist.php I have personally written a reminder application that has that same pop-up window though. The grid in the photo that show the months on the left and letters on the top would be trivial to create. I don't know how to overlay the grid with other widgets, but I suspect it would only require doing something in a paint event or embedding some additional widgets in it. The grid can be quite advanced. Did you look at the wxPython demo? Or Dabo? Yes, but although the basic wigets are just fine, wxGrid looks a bit like the basic TStringGrid in Delphi, ie. it's pretty basic so that several vendors came up with enhanced alternatives. But maybe I haven't played with it long enough. www.asiplease.net/computing/delphi/images/string_grid_demo_popstars.gif It lacks sorting capability, merging cells with the same content, etc. The MegaGrid example demonstrates sorting. You'll have to ask about the other features on their list. I haven't done that as of yet. Mike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: the pipe reading in Thread dose not work.
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 07:32:39 -0700 (PDT), Leon zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #!/usr/bin/env python # -*- coding: utf-8 -*- import string, sys from threading import Thread import os import time class test_pipe(Thread): def __init__(self, fd): Thread.__init__(self) self.testfd = fd def run(self): print started thread begin - while True: buf = self.testfd.read() print receive %s % (buf) time.sleep(1) #print hoho if __name__ == __main__: stdin_r, stdin_w = os.pipe() #stdout_r, stdout_w = pipe() f_w = os.fdopen(stdin_w, w, 0) thrd = test_pipe(os.fdopen(stdin_r, r, 0)) thrd.start() time.sleep(1) while True: f_w.write(help\r\n) time.sleep(1) thrd.join() well, I want the following small test about pipe() in thread(). OK, I write to the pipe in the main thread, and I created a new thread for reading from the pipe, then it will print what it received from the pipe(). But, it seems it block at the self.testfd.read(). So, is there and suggestion and explaination about it? file.read() reads the entire contents of the file. Your code never closes the write end of the pipe, so the read can never succeed - there is always more for it to read. Jean-Paul -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: [Business apps for Windows] Good grid + calendar, etc.?
Ryan Ginstrom wrote: On Behalf Of Gilles Ganault Is it hopeless, or did I overlook things? Are there other solutions I should look at (FLTK, etc.)? For those of you writing business apps in Python for Windows, how do things go as far as GUI widgets are concerned? To do a bit of shameless plugging, I wrote an overview of Python GUI platforms for Windows a month or two ago: http://ginstrom.com/scribbles/2008/02/26/python-gui-programming-platforms-fo r-windows/ For your stated needs, I'd advise checking out IronPython or Python.NET (which allow use of .NET GUI libraries). AFAIK, Venster is (at least for windows-mobile-like platforms) replaced by the very good and stable PocketPyGUI. cheers, Stef Regards, Ryan Ginstrom -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Printing a text file using Python
Serge:
in your code i believe that you did one read of your whole input file, and then
you emitted that to the dc with textout. textout's use is actually
(x,y,string).
hence one line got printed (actually the whole file got printed but
truncated)
you will have to detect all the end of lines and loop a whole lot of dc.textouts
Robin
your code:
dc = win32ui.CreateDC()
dc.CreatePrinterDC()
dc.SetMapMode(4)# This is UI_MM_LOENGLISH
# With this map mode, 12 points is 12*100/72 units = 16
font = win32ui.CreateFont({'name' : 'Arial', 'height' : 16})
dc.SelectObject(font)
f=open(./Reports/Report.txt,r)
memory=f.read()
f.close
memory.split('\n')
dc.StartDoc(./Reports/Report.txt)
dc.StartPage()
dc.TextOut(10,10,memory)
dc.EndPage()
dc.EndDoc()
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Re: SPOJ, Problem Code: sumtrian, Reducing time taken to solve.
On Jun 1, 10:25 am, Shriphani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I was trying to solve the sumtrian problem in the SPOJ problem set (https://www.spoj.pl/problems/SUMTRIAN/) and this is the solution I submitted:http://pastebin.ca/1035867 The result was, Your solution from 2008-06-01 15:13:06 to problem SUMTRIAN, written in Python, has exceeded the allowed time limit. I suspect that the first portion of my solution which looks at the input, figures out the number of triangles and forms a list that contains lists containing each row of the triangle, is wrong. I am not too sure how to optimize it. I would appreciate help. Thanks, Shriphani Palakodety First, you have to write a correct algorithm. Notice that your code doesn't correctly calculates the given sample input. Later, think about optimization. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to get all the variables in a python shell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I'm currently working on a scientific computation software built in python. What I want to implement is a Matlab style command window - workspace interaction. For example, you type 'a=1' in the command window, and you see a list item named 'a' in the workspace. You double click the icon of the item, and you see its value. You can modify the value of the list item, 1 - 100 etc, after which if you go back to the command window and type 'a' and press enter, you see that varable a's value has been changed to 100. So my question is : if you have two DOS command windows running under WINDOWS OS, how can you make them share the same internal variable buffer? Or is there any easier way to implement such kind of interaction? Maybe I could just build a small database to store all the values and access them from both programs, but chances are sometimes I have to deal with big arrays, and they will eat extra memory if I keep them in a database. Is there anyway to access a shell's local memory buffer? I tried to use shell.interp.locals() in wxPython, but there's too many variables in the list which I don't actually need. Come on guys, give me some ideas. Thanks in advance! In all kinds of code, it's best to seperate the workers code and the UI code, in your case, you should create a backend (worker), which is a class that stands on its own, and two foreground class (UI) that is completely independent of each other but have the same interface. The backend code would have an event that is raised when it is changed to notify the UI (esp. The gui one) that it has changed since last time, possibly passing info on what have been changed. The front ends, would watch for this event as necessary (I don't think it is necessary for the command line to watch this event) and react to it as necessary like refreshing the view. The front-end window may only call functions on the backend to interact with the data being worked on (in short the backend class is opaque). This obliviate the need to share data between the two (or more) windows (UI) because all the data are contained in the backend class that the frontend can't access directly. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python, dlls, and multiple instances
Is it a correct to assume that you can use multiple instances of python altogether if each is loaded from a separate dll? For instance, if I write a couple of dll/so libs, and each has python statically linked in, is it safe to assume that since dlls use their own address space DLLs don't use their own address space. All DLLs of a single operating system process use the same address space. Different DLLs do use different portions of that address space. then each dll would have it's own GIL, and will therefore coexist safely within the same app? This is correct across all platforms, yes? No; it rather depends on the way the operating system resolves symbols. On some systems (e.g. many Unix systems), there is only a single global symbol table for the entire process. So when a shared library is loaded, and needs to resolve its symbols (even the ones that it also defines itself), it may end up finding the GIL in a different copy of the Python interpreter, so they all share the GIL (even though there would have been space for multiple GILs). Regards, Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: SPOJ, Problem Code: sumtrian, Reducing time taken to solve.
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Shriphani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was trying to solve the sumtrian problem in the SPOJ problem set ( https://www.spoj.pl/problems/SUMTRIAN/ ) and this is the solution I submitted: http://pastebin.ca/1035867 The result was, Your solution from 2008-06-01 15:13:06 to problem SUMTRIAN, written in Python, has exceeded the allowed time limit. I suspect that the first portion of my solution which looks at the input, figures out the number of triangles and forms a list that contains lists containing each row of the triangle, is wrong. I am not too sure how to optimize it. I would appreciate help. Since you asked, I went and tried the problem myself and managed to get a solution accepted with a bit of work. Here are my suggestions with regard to your code: * You absolutely need to use psyco for this problem. The accepted solutions have memory usage of 36M+, which on SPOJ is a sure sign that psyco was used, and they're already just a hair under the time limit. * Instead of guessing it's probably the input step, why don't you profile your code so that you *know* where the bottlenecks are? * Use xrange instead of range in for loops, and certainly don't use while loops for iteration. * max is quite slow for comparing only two things. It's faster to compare the two things yourself. Since this line may be executed millions of times, the difference could be quite significant. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to get all the variables in a python shell
On Jun 2, 1:29 am, Lie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I'm currently working on a scientific computation software built in python. What I want to implement is a Matlab style command window - workspace interaction. For example, you type 'a=1' in the command window, and you see a list item named 'a' in the workspace. You double click the icon of the item, and you see its value. You can modify the value of the list item, 1 - 100 etc, after which if you go back to the command window and type 'a' and press enter, you see that varable a's value has been changed to 100. So my question is : if you have two DOS command windows running under WINDOWS OS, how can you make them share the same internal variable buffer? Or is there any easier way to implement such kind of interaction? Maybe I could just build a small database to store all the values and access them from both programs, but chances are sometimes I have to deal with big arrays, and they will eat extra memory if I keep them in a database. Is there anyway to access a shell's local memory buffer? I tried to use shell.interp.locals() in wxPython, but there's too many variables in the list which I don't actually need. Come on guys, give me some ideas. Thanks in advance! In all kinds of code, it's best to seperate the workers code and the UI code, in your case, you should create a backend (worker), which is a class that stands on its own, and two foreground class (UI) that is completely independent of each other but have the same interface. The backend code would have an event that is raised when it is changed to notify the UI (esp. The gui one) that it has changed since last time, possibly passing info on what have been changed. The front ends, would watch for this event as necessary (I don't think it is necessary for the command line to watch this event) and react to it as necessary like refreshing the view. The front-end window may only call functions on the backend to interact with the data being worked on (in short the backend class is opaque). This obliviate the need to share data between the two (or more) windows (UI) because all the data are contained in the backend class that the frontend can't access directly. To clarify what I meant, the front ends should never contain any working data except the ones needed for the UI to illustrate what it wanted to show at the moment, and even then, it is accessed in read only fashion. And actually because of Python's Global Interpreter Lock, which means that your program would all be contained in the same python interpreter instance (unless you do some workarounds), passing objects/ lists around between python program is cheap because they're just a reference passing (like pointer passing in C/C++) This approach is a simple server-client method (not a true server- client method though, since a true one cannot share unserialized data), and is extremely scalable, it's easy to add a third window for example, there is no need for every front end to be aware that there are other front ends, since it just watches for the Changed event from the backend. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: How to get all the variables in a python shell
On May 29, 1:47 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I'm currently working on a scientific computation software built in python. What I want to implement is a Matlab style command window - workspace interaction. For example, you type 'a=1' in the command window, and you see a list item named 'a' in the workspace. You double click the icon of the item, and you see its value. You can modify the value of the list item, 1 - 100 etc, after which if you go back to the command window and type 'a' and press enter, you see that varable a's value has been changed to 100. So my question is : if you have two DOS command windows running under WINDOWS OS, how can you make them share the same internal variable buffer? Or is there any easier way to implement such kind of interaction? Maybe I could just build a small database to store all the values and access them from both programs, but chances are sometimes I have to deal with big arrays, and they will eat extra memory if I keep them in a database. Is there anyway to access a shell's local memory buffer? I tried to use shell.interp.locals() in wxPython, but there's too many variables in the list which I don't actually need. Come on guys, give me some ideas. Thanks in advance! As an addition: Don't try to share data between windows, it's messy, fragile, and easy to make bugs. PS: Do not confuse Lie (Me) and Lee (OP) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Question about files?
On Jun 1, 1:44 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to create a program where a user can type what ever they want
to, have it saved to a file, and the be able to re-open it and read
it. How would I do this? Thanks!
Use a multi-line text-input widget (available on any widget library)
To open a file in python for reading:
filepointer = file('path/to/file', 'r')
then read it like this:
for line in filepointer:
dosomethingwith(f)
or:
filecontent = filepointer.read()
To open a file for writing:
filepointer = file('path/to/file', 'w')
to write to a file:
filepointer.write(somestring)
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Re: ValueError: unknown locale: UTF-8
ValueError: unknown locale: UTF-8 This is on open bug or is there more to it? Do you have an environment variable set who is named either LANG or starts with LC_? Regards, Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: python's setuptools (eggs) vs ruby's gems survey/discussion
On Jun 1, 2:47 am, Alia Khouri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can we open up the discussion here about how to improve setuptools which has become the de facto standard for distributing / installing python software. I've been playing around with ruby's gems which seems to be more more mature and usable. From my perspective, the relative immaturity of setuptools and its simultaneous widespread use is a clear python weakness and can make python less easy to absorb than it should be. A few questions (please add more) so far are: (1) Should setuptools be standard? I hope not. Like many others, I avoid packages the require installation via setuptools. My first experience with setuptools (I do not make much distinction here between setuptools and packages installed using setuptools) was quite unpleasant. It was a couple years ago and I have forgotten a lot of details but it was roughly: Downloaded a package from the net, did the usual python setup.py install and got a messages that I needed to install setuptools first. (First time I'd ever heard of setuptools, not idea what it was or did.) Machine not on internet so I looked at readme for other options for installing. No information about dependencies, install, easy_install, setuptools in any of the readme's or other package doc. Finally found a url buried in one of .py files. Eventually, from another machine, I got it downloaded and installed. Ran it, and then the dependency issues popped up with no internet connection, recollection is messages were obscure. Got internet connection and tried again, never did it tell me what it wanted to download or the sizes (internet connection was a modem). Somewhere I got a url for setuptools help that pointed the Peak website. I then had to hunt around for a long time before finding the setuptools docs. When I did find them they appeared to be written for a packaging programmer, not for an someone who just want to get a package installed so he could continue with his main task. The kicker was that after all of this BS, I discovered that I could install the package simply by copying it's files to the Python install site-lib directory! Sheesh!! I have since used setuptools a few more times and had problems several times. Now, my complaint about setuptools is not any of the specific problems I've had using it -- those presumably could be (perhaps have been) fixed. The problem is the disconnect between what I see as blatantly obvious requirements for any kind of installer and what setuptools provides. I consider the need for locally available usage instructions so obvious as to not needing mentioning. I consider sensible behavior in the face of no, slow, or bad internet connections obvious. I consider defaults (not auto-downloading potentially large files) to be obvious. That the the setuptools developers do not share my world view makes me unable to trust them. Perhaps they will silently change some settings on my machine that I depend on? Setuptools' philosophy seems to me to be fundamentally Microsoftian: sit back, relax, we'll take care of everything (which requires you to effectively give your machine to us, but please don't worry about that.) It is a philosophy I detest, and use free software to get away from. (2) What bugs you most about the current featureset? (3) Which features do you need the most (list in order of need)? If must *work*, always. It must have simple, very well written docs, that are always easily accessible. Nobody should be expected to become a setuptools expert in order to install a package, but if they need to do something out of the ordinary, they must be able to find out how, quickly and effectively. It must work reliably and simply in a wide variety of environments, not just the enviroments the developers happen to be used to (no, slow, intermittent internet, unusual install locations, multiple package versions, multiple python versions, different compilation environments...) It's scope should be limited to Python. There are OS packaging tools for applications (python or otherwise), and the ongoing problems with them (c.f. Fedora's rpm/yum) despite a decade of work make me doubtful a python centric project that tried to tackle the problem could get it right. Need to be able to *manage* packages (remove, list, maintain info about,...) as well as install them. A common way of packaging / installing documentation. Most of my Python work in on Windows and whenever I install a Python package (setuptools or otherwise), I have to look for a sepreate docs package, and if not exist, download the source package, find the docs in it, sometimes build them, and if I can't to that, try to wget the online docs. Would like a nerw setuptools to provide the machinery and conventions to allow packager to easily include docs in a package and have them installed in a common, indexed, location on the target machine. (C.f. Activestate's Perl.) (4) Shouldn't we just port gems to
Re: Python's doc problems: sort
Andrew Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [Subject: Python's doc problems: sort] I want to emphasize a point here, as i have done quite emphatically in the past. The Python documentation, is the world's worst technical And WTF does Python documentation have to do with Perl of Lisp? szr, do you still have any doubts about the nature of xahlee? Welcome to my killfile. Done a long, long time ago. Follow-up set. jue -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Integrating a code generator into IDLE
Sam Denton schrieb: Code generators seem to be popular in Python. (http://www.google.com/search?q=python+code-generator) Certainly not. The most of them will be used for generating bindings. Apart from that, you rareley (if ever) need to generate code. I have one that I'd like to integrate into IDLE. Ideally, I'd like to (1) have a new file type show up when I use the File/Open dialog, and (2) have a function key that lets me run my generator against the file, just like F5 lets me run my Python code; ideally, I'd like to re-purpose the F5 key to be file-type aware. I've got a simple extension written that uses the F6 key to compile my files, but two goals I've listed seem a bit beyond me. Does anyone have any advice/pointers? Or is one or both ideas impractical? Thanks! You might consider using eric, a python-ide written in python with the Qt-Framework. It allows plugins. Diez -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
pyspread 0.0.7
pyspread 0.0.7 has been released. -- New features: + CSV import dialog with preview grid Bug fixes: + setup.py now installs correctly into a sub-folder (tested for Linux and WinXP). -- About: pyspread is a spreadsheet that accepts a pure python expression in each cell. -- Highlights: + No non-python syntax add-ons + Access to python modules from cells + 3D grid + Numpy object array for representation of string entry into grid cell + Numpy object array for representation of eval function array + Cell access via slicing of numpy function array + X, Y, and Z yield current cell location for relative reference Requires: Python =2.4, Numpy 1.0.4, and wxPython 2.8.7.1. License: GPL Project page: http://pyspread.sourceforge.net Best Regards Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
convert binary to float
I have tried and tried... I'd like to read in a binary file, convert it's 4 byte values into floats, and then save as a .txt file. This works from the command line (import struct); In [1]: f = open(test2.pc0, rb) In [2]: tagData = f.read(4) In [3]: tagData Out[3]: '\x00\x00\xc0@' I can then do the following in order to convert it to a float: In [4]: struct.unpack(f, \x00\x00\xc0@) Out[4]: (6.0,) But when I run the same code from my .py file: f = open(test2.pc0, rb) tagData = f.read(4) print tagData I get this (ASCII??): └@ I only know how to work with '\x00\x00\xc0@'. I don't understand why the output isn't the same. I need a solution that will allow me to convert my binary file into floats. Am I close? Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Mason -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: convert binary to float
On Jun 1, 3:55 pm, Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried and tried... I'd like to read in a binary file, convert it's 4 byte values into floats, and then save as a .txt file. This works from the command line (import struct); In [1]: f = open(test2.pc0, rb) In [2]: tagData = f.read(4) In [3]: tagData Out[3]: '\x00\x00\xc0@' I can then do the following in order to convert it to a float: In [4]: struct.unpack(f, \x00\x00\xc0@) Out[4]: (6.0,) But when I run the same code from my .py file: f = open(test2.pc0, rb) tagData = f.read(4) print tagData I get this (ASCII??): „@ Remembering to put that struct.unpack() call in your module might help ;-) George -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Bring object 'out of' Class?
Then you can write: hands = deck.deal_cards(4, 5) # On fait une belotte? And I don't see the need of defining 'Hand' inside 'Deck'. HTH Thanks for the input. I believe using 'class Hand(Deck):' is to illustrate (in the book) inheritance and how it can be used. By using 'Hand(Deck)' I can then use the methods (pop_card, add_cards, etc..) defined in the 'Deck' class. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Python's doc problems: sort
Jürgen Exner wrote: Andrew Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [Subject: Python's doc problems: sort] I want to emphasize a point here, as i have done quite emphatically in the past. The Python documentation, is the world's worst technical And WTF does Python documentation have to do with Perl of Lisp? szr, do you still have any doubts about the nature of xahlee? I wasn't involved in this thread, but no, after that statement comparing Perl's and Python's docs, I no doubts. -- szr -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Good grid + calendar, etc.?
On Jun 1, 8:28 am, Gilles Ganault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 06:00:03 -0700 (PDT), Mike Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recall that there is an advanced calendar widget that's been made by one of the regulars on the wxPython list, but it's not a part of the official distribution at this time. You'll have to ask about calendar widgets and such there though. The impression I get, is that those extra widgets (besides the usual edit, listbox, etc.) aren't really developped/maintained, which is a problem when comitting for applications that will have to be developped for a few years. For instance, is there a calendar in wxPython that has this look and feel, and is under active development?http://www.devexpress.com/Products/VCL/ExScheduler/ The grid can be quite advanced. Did you look at the wxPython demo? Or Dabo? Yes, but although the basic wigets are just fine, wxGrid looks a bit like the basic TStringGrid in Delphi, ie. it's pretty basic so that several vendors came up with enhanced alternatives. But maybe I haven't played with it long enough. www.asiplease.net/computing/delphi/images/string_grid_demo_popstars.gif It lacks sorting capability, merging cells with the same content, etc. I found one of the projects I was thinking of. It's called pyspread and has been getting updated quite a bit of late: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyspread/ Mike -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: convert binary to float
On Jun 1, 6:41 pm, Dennis Lee Bieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 12:55:45 -0700 (PDT), Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: I have tried and tried... I'd like to read in a binary file, convert it's 4 byte values into floats, and then save as a .txt file. This works from the command line (import struct); In [1]: f = open(test2.pc0, rb) In [2]: tagData = f.read(4) In [3]: tagData Interpreter display of raw object name uses repr() Out[3]: '\x00\x00\xc0@' I can then do the following in order to convert it to a float: In [4]: struct.unpack(f, \x00\x00\xc0@) Out[4]: (6.0,) But when I run the same code from my .py file: f = open(test2.pc0, rb) tagData = f.read(4) print tagData Display from a print statement uses str() I get this (ASCII??): „@ Probably not ASCII -- ASCII doesn't have that spanish (?) bottom row quote... And a pair of null bytes don't take up screen space. I only know how to work with '\x00\x00\xc0@'. I don't understand why the output isn't the same. I need a solution that will allow me to convert my binary file into floats. Am I close? Can anyone point me in the right direction? Why do you have to /see/ the byte representation in the first place... just feed the four bytes to the struct module directly. import struct fin = open(test2.pc0, rb) tagFloat = struct.unpack(f, fin.read(4))[0] print tagFloat -- WulfraedDennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/ (Bestiaria Support Staff: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) HTTP://www.bestiaria.com/ Thanks Dennis, I'm OK now. I just sort of dropped the ball for a bit :). Mason -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: convert binary to float
On Jun 1, 5:12 pm, George Sakkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 1, 3:55 pm, Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried and tried... I'd like to read in a binary file, convert it's 4 byte values into floats, and then save as a .txt file. This works from the command line (import struct); In [1]: f = open(test2.pc0, rb) In [2]: tagData = f.read(4) In [3]: tagData Out[3]: '\x00\x00\xc0@' I can then do the following in order to convert it to a float: In [4]: struct.unpack(f, \x00\x00\xc0@) Out[4]: (6.0,) But when I run the same code from my .py file: f = open(test2.pc0, rb) tagData = f.read(4) print tagData I get this (ASCII??): „@ Remembering to put that struct.unpack() call in your module might help ;-) George Wow ... I did have it in there, but I forgot include it in my post. Anyway, this works just fine: f = open(test2.pc0, rb) tagData = f.read(4) print struct.unpack(f, tagData) Thanks for waking me up George! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: convert binary to float
George Sakkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:829b1e8f-baac-4ff4-909b-[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jun 1, 3:55 pm, Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried and tried... I'd like to read in a binary file, convert it's 4 byte values into floats, and then save as a .txt file. This works from the command line (import struct); In [1]: f = open(test2.pc0, rb) In [2]: tagData = f.read(4) In [3]: tagData Out[3]: '\x00\x00\xc0@' I can then do the following in order to convert it to a float: In [4]: struct.unpack(f, \x00\x00\xc0@) Out[4]: (6.0,) But when I run the same code from my .py file: f = open(test2.pc0, rb) tagData = f.read(4) print tagData I get this (ASCII??): „@ Remembering to put that struct.unpack() call in your module might help ;-) George tagData still contains your data, but it is being displayed two different ways. Consult the documentation about str() and repr(). -Mark -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
??? The most EVIL MOTIVE force in HISTORY - The SCHEMING, MANIPULATING and AGGRESSIVE KHAZAR - now also ZIONIST ???
Full Article: http://iamthewitness.com/FreedmanFactsAreFacts.html KEY DOCUMENT Steamy Excerpts: Will you be patient with me while I review here as briefly as I can the history of that political emergence and disappearance of a nation from the pages of history? In the year 1948 in the Pentagon in Washington I addressed a large assembly of the highest ranking officers of the United States Army principally in the G2 branch of Military Intelligence on the highly explosive geopolitical situation in eastern Europe and the Middle East. Then as now that area of the world was a potential threat to the peace of the world and to the security of this nation I explained to them fully the origin of the Khazars and Khazar Kingdom. I felt then as I feel now that without a clear and comprehensive knowledge of that subject it is not possible to understand or to evaluate properly what has been taking place in the world since 1917, the year of the Bolshevik revolution in Russia. It is the key to that problem. Maybe you can explain to me, my dear Dr. Goldstein, the reason why and just how the origin and the history of the Khazars and Khazar Kingdom was so well concealed from the world for so many centuries? What secret mysterious power has been able for countless generations to keep the origin and the history of the Khazars and Khazar Kingdom out of history text-books and out of class-room courses in history throughout the world? The origin and history of the Khazars and Khazar Kingdom are certainly incontestable historical facts. These incontestable historic facts also establish beyond any question of doubt the origin and history of the so-called or self-styled Jews in eastern Europe. The origin and history of the Khazars and Khazar kingdom and their relationship to the origin and early history of the so-called or self-styled Jews in eastern Europe was one of history's best kept secrets until wide publicity was given in recent years to my research on this subject. Do you not think, my dear Dr. Goldstein, that it is time this whole subject was dragged out of its hiding place? In the year 1948 in the Pentagon in Washington I addressed a large assembly of the highest ranking officers of the United States Army principally in the G2 branch of Military Intelligence on the highly explosive geopolitical situation in eastern Europe and the Middle East. Then as now that area of the world was a potential threat to the peace of the world and to the security of this nation I explained to them fully the origin of the Khazars and Khazar Kingdom. I felt then as I feel now that without a clear and comprehensive knowledge of that subject it is not possible to understand or to evaluate properly what has been taking place in the world since 1917, the year of the Bolshevik revolution in Russia. It is the key to that problem. Upon the conclusion of my talk a very alert Lieutenant Colonel present at the meeting informed me that he was the head of the history department of one of the largest and highest scholastic rated institutions of higher education in the United States. He had taught history there for 16 years. He had recently been called back to Washington for further military service. To my astonishment he informed me that he had never in all his career as a history teachers or otherwise heard the word khazar before he heard me mention it there. That must give you some idea, my dear Dr. Goldstein, of how successful that mysterious secret power was with their plot to block out the origin and the history of the Khazars and Khazar Kingdom in order to conceal from the world and particularly Christians the true origin and the history of the so-called or self- styled Jews in eastern Europe. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
*** How the RASCAL President Woodrow Wilson was blackmailed like PUPPET by the AGGRESIVE, MANIPULATIVE KHAZAR Zionists ***
Google is Khazar owned and controlled company. The Khazars plan to electronify and accumulate the whole intellectual property on earth, esp US, Europe and Australia thru google and already have accumulated all the mint items in google Israel. This they must do before launching their ARMAGEDDON. Since they have ALREADY accumulated them, the copyright laws is like cutting our own feet with our own hand. If I were the president and loyal to the USA, I would immediately send federal troups to confiscate the whole operation of google and all that they have must be made public property since no one can go into the Israel and stop them from sharing wholesale. http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Benjamin.H.Freedman/1974.Washington.D.C.speech.html - The KEY LINK Steamy Excerpt: So, we had a President in Washington, Mr. Taft, Mr. Jacob Schiff, of Kuhn, Loeb Co., the bankers in New York who are the arm in the United States of the Rothschild International world wide plutocracy - Mr. Schiff, with two young men, went down to see Mr. Taft, and he said, Mr. Taft, . . . (I am not telling you this out of my memory. I almost know this by heart, because the books are here, in the Congressional Library. The people who were in the room with President Taft, at that time, and President Taft were told by Jacob H. Schiff) . . . We want you to cancel the Most Favored Nation Treaty with Czarist Russia, and we want you to recall our Ambassador. The President told them, Mr. Schiff, things are not what you represent them to be. My ambassador tells me differently. So, Mr. Schiff told him, in so many words, Is you is, or is you ain't - going to do it? When the President said that he would not do it, Mr. Schiff said We will put a political party and a president in Washington, to whom we can dictate what they should do. . They ganged up in New York, to get rid of Taft. I was a protégé of Mr. Bernard Baruch - a name that I think you are all familiar with. His father was a doctor, Dr. Simon Baruch, who had brought me into the world, and Bernard Baruch was a visitor at our home all the time. He courted my sister; one of my sisters. So the stage was set to get rid of the Republican Party and the Republican President and put in their own party and their own President. But it was very difficult, because, after the Cleveland depression (President Cleveland was a Democrat, we had Free Trade) we had the worst depression ever seen anywhere. And that swept the Republican Party into power, because they advocated tariff, protective tariff to protect the working man against the cheap labor of Europe and to protect the infant industries, in the United States against foreign competition. . They got Woodrow Wilson, the man who had more ego than any man I have ever read about, they got him to head the Democratic Party. And they got into difficulties! Because the Democrats only got the Electoral votes in the South; where the people in agriculture wanted cheap goods from Europe. But the North wanted the Republicans. They found out they could not elect a President in the United States. So, I handled the money; I was the leg man, the errand boy (I was only a boy then.) They trotted Theodore Roosevelt out of the political moth-balls (He was then an editor of a magazine). They told him, You are the indispensable man. You are the only man who can save the United States. And with his ego they formed the Bull Moose Party and Mr. Jacob H. Schiff and the Jews throughout the world - they got plenty of money from England - they formed the Bull Moose Party. And in that way they split the Republican vote between Roosevelt and Taft, and Mr. Wilson walked in with a minority of the popular vote - the lowest man, (and I knew the inside of his private life, which I don't want to go into here). But never was a lower rascal in the White House, and I've known plenty of them since that time! Now, Mr. Wilson really didn't know enough to come in out of the rain! I cannot understand how he ever got there, except that in shuffling the cards, they had the goods on him, You find in politics, every time they pick a candidate, and put him out in front, they have the goods on him. You know he had been sleeping with the wife of the professor who lived next door to him at Princeton, whose name was Peck. And they used to call Wilson, at Princeton, Peck's bad boy. When she got a divorce and moved to Washington, she married a man who had a son. And that son borrowed $40,000 from the bank, without asking them. He didn't know how to pay it back, and the pressure on him was getting very, very hot. So this woman heard of Samuel Untermeyer (of the big firm, Googenheim, Untermeyer and Marshall) a prominent Democrat; and supplied much money to the party. She went to him with a big package of letters which I read (Wilson was a great letter writer. He knew the language; there's no doubt about it, Wilson knew his vocabulary, when it came to making love, anyway). So, they cooked this up
Re: Good grid + calendar, etc.?
On Jun 1, 1:43 pm, Gilles Ganault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 21:27:30 +0900, Ryan Ginstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For your stated needs, I'd advise checking out IronPython or Python.NET (which allow use of .NET GUI libraries). Thanks but I forgot to say that I'd rather not use .Net because deployment/updates are too problematic for our audience. .. that's assuming that a GUI Python can install/update itself as easily as eg. Delphi, which is where I could be wrong :-/ Windows Forms (.NET) is one of the best looking Windows GUI toolkits I've seen. It is also generally very easy to use from IronPython. We haven't had a problem with deployment / updates with our customers [1]. Problems you anticipate may be historical. .NET 2 has been pushed out by Windows update for quite some time and it is *likely* that your target computers already have it installed. Further, the latest release of .NET (.NET 3.5 SP1 - still be in Beta) includes tools for building 'msi' installers which either bundle the parts of .NET you need - or handle the download and install of .NET on the client machine (which approach you take is up to you - and obviously they *don't* depend on having .NET already installed on the target machine). You can see some of the details on Scott Guthrie's blog: http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2008/05/12/visual-studio-2008-and-net-framework-3-5-service-pack-1-beta.aspx Scroll down to the parts about .NET Framework Client Profile Setup Package: .NET 3.5 SP1 introduces a new setup package option for developers building .NET client applications called the .NET Framework Client Profile. This provides a new setup installer that enables a smaller, faster, and simpler installation experience for .NET client applications on machines that do not already have the .NET Framework installed. And also .NET Framework Setup Bootstrapper for Client Applications: .NET 3.5 SP1 introduces a new bootstrapper component that you can use with client applications to help automate making sure that the right version of the .NET Framework is installed. The bootstrapper component can handle automatically downloading and installing either the .NET Framework Client Profile or the full .NET Framework Setup Package from the Internet if your machine doesn't have either of them installed. The boostrapper can also automatically handle upgrading machines that have a previous version of the .NET Framework installed. All the best, Michael Foord http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ [1] At Resolver Systems: http://www.resolversystems.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: The Importance of Terminology's Quality
szr wrote: Arne Vajhøj wrote: szr wrote: Peter Duniho wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2008 22:40:03 -0700, szr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arne Vajhøj wrote: Stephan Bour wrote: Lew wrote: } John Thingstad wrote: } Perl is solidly based in the UNIX world on awk, sed, } bash and C. I don't like the style, but many do. } } Please exclude the Java newsgroups from this discussion. Did it ever occur to you that you don't speak for entire news groups? Did it occur to you that there are nothing about Java in the above ? Looking at the original post, it doesn't appear to be about any specific language. Indeed. That suggests it's probably off-topic in most, if not all, of the newsgroups to which it was posted, inasmuch as they exist for topics specific to a given programming language. Perhaps - comp.programming might of been a better place, but not all people who follow groups for specific languages follow a general group like that - but let me ask you something. What is it you really have against discussing topics with people of neighboring groups? Keep in mind you don't have to read anything you do not want to read. [1] I very much doubt that the original thread is relevant for the Java group. But the subthread Lew commente don was about Perl and Unix. That is clearly off topic. I agree with and understand what you are saying in general, but still, isn't it possible that were are people in the java group (and others) who might of been following the thread, only to discover (probably not right away) that someone decided to remove the group they were reading the thread from? I know I would not like that, even if it wasn't on topic at the branch. Personally, I find it very annoying to have to switch news groups in order to resume a thread and weed my way down the thread to where it left off before it was cut off from the previous group. I am relative tolerant towards threads that are a bit off topic, if the S/N ratio overall is good. But I accept and respect that other people has a more strict attitude against off topic posts. And I am very little tolerant towards people that think they can attack those that want only on topic posts. One thing is to ask for a bit of slack regarding the rules something else is attacking those that want the rules kept. Arne -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python needn't apologize (was: Using Python for programming algorithms)
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], sturlamolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 18, 5:46 am, inhahe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The numbers I heard are that Python is 10-100 times slower than C. Only true if you use Python as if it was a dialect of Visual Basic. If you use the right tool, like NumPy, Python can be fast enough. Also note that Python is not slower than any other language (including C) if the code is i/o bound. As it turns out, most code is i/o bound, even many scientific programs. In scientific research, CPU time is cheap and time spent programming is expensive. Instead of optimizing code that runs too slowly, it is often less expensive to use fancier hardware, like parallell computers. For Python, we e.g. have mpi4py which gives us access to MPI. It can be a good advice to write scientific software parallelizable from the start. . [more of same] . . I can hardly overemphasize how often it happens not just that Python is more than 1% as fast as C, not just that Python is fast enough, but that real-world programs written in Python are FASTER then their homologs coded in C. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (May 26)
QOTW: GHUM: There are no big applications written in Python. GHUM: Big applications are written in JAVA or COBOL or C# or other legacy programming systems. GHUM: If you programm in Python, your applications become quite small. Only frameworks in Python are big. JMC: So the fact that there are no big applications written in Python IS the success story. - Harald Armin Massa and D'Arcy J.M. Cain http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Python/comp.lang.python/2008-04/msg03005.html Assign a value and test for it in a single statement: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2008-May/492988.html http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2008-May/492425.html D'Arcy J.M. Cain et al. combat the heterodoxy of David which questions the usefulness of unit tests and test-driven development in general: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2008-May/493057.html Comparing identity vs. comparing equality: what's the difference? http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2008-May/492117.html Relationship between logic and interface: the MVC pattern: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2008-May/492816.html It isn't easy to alter how functions compare themselves (to avoid duplicates, for example): http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2008-May/493182.html Organizing a project (directory layout): http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2008-May/492010.html Poll: How do you use Python in non-GUI work? http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2008-May/491989.html PHP compared to Python: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2008-May/492561.html Is this language suitable for Operations Research? http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2008-May/491867.html Oldest thread still alive (from May 7): lambda expressions, now talking about decorators: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2008-May/490027.html Everything Python-related you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages: Python.org's Python Language Website is the traditional center of Pythonia http://www.python.org Notice especially the master FAQ http://www.python.org/doc/FAQ.html PythonWare complements the digest you're reading with the marvelous daily python url http://www.pythonware.com/daily Mygale is a news-gathering webcrawler that specializes in (new) World-Wide Web articles related to Python. http://www.awaretek.com/nowak/mygale.html While cosmetically similar, Mygale and the Daily Python-URL are utterly different in their technologies and generally in their results. Just beginning with Python? This page is a great place to start: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Programmers The Python Papers aims to publish the efforts of Python enthusiats: http://pythonpapers.org/ The Python Magazine is a technical monthly devoted to Python: http://pythonmagazine.com Readers have recommended the Planet sites: http://planetpython.org http://planet.python.org comp.lang.python.announce announces new Python software. Be sure to scan this newsgroup weekly. http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djqas_ugroup=comp.lang.python.announce Python411 indexes podcasts ... to help people learn Python ... Updates appear more-than-weekly: http://www.awaretek.com/python/index.html The Python Package Index catalogues packages. http://www.python.org/pypi/ The somewhat older Vaults of Parnassus ambitiously collects references to all sorts of Python resources. http://www.vex.net/~x/parnassus/ Much of Python's real work takes place on Special-Interest Group mailing lists http://www.python.org/sigs/ Python Success Stories--from air-traffic control to on-line match-making--can inspire you or decision-makers to whom you're subject with a vision of what the language makes practical. http://www.pythonology.com/success The Python Software Foundation (PSF) has replaced the Python Consortium as an independent nexus of activity. It has official responsibility for Python's development and maintenance. http://www.python.org/psf/ Among the ways you can support PSF is with a donation. http://www.python.org/psf/donate.html Kurt B. Kaiser publishes a weekly report on faults and patches. http://www.google.com/groups?as_usubject=weekly%20python%20patch Although unmaintained since 2002, the Cetus collection of Python hyperlinks retains a few gems. http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_python.html Python FAQTS http://python.faqts.com/ The Cookbook is a
Re: php vs python
Ethan Furman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jerry Stuckle wrote: As I've said before - good programmers can write good code in any language. So... an eloquent speaker of English is also an eloquent speaker of Spanish/French/German? There's potentially a large difference between a good speaker of English/German/etc. vs. eloquent. I'd tend to agree with Jerry that if you can write good code in one language, you can in pretty much any other as well... but that doesn't imply you're necessarily eloquent in any languages. :-) Eloquence is nice, but eradicating bad code in this world is about a million times more important than attempting to move people from good code to eloquent code. To be Pythonic here, eloquent code would perhaps often have clear, clean list comprehensions used when good code would use a for loop but still be easy to follow as well and perfectly acceptable in the vast majority of cases. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
a question about the #prefix of sys.argv
for the little script #egg.py import sys for k,v in enumerate(sys.argv): print k,v it ignores the part after # on linux below is the running output on windows and linux. no clue here. D:\python\noteegg.py #test 0 D:\python\note\egg.py 1 #test D:\python\noteegg.py for bar #spam egg 0 D:\python\note\egg.py 1 for 2 bar 3 #spam 4 egg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/transfer$ python2.5 egg.py #test 0 egg.py [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/transfer$ python2.5 egg.py foo bar #spam egg 0 egg.py 1 foo 2 bar -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: a question about the #prefix of sys.argv
Aldarion wrote: for the little script #egg.py import sys for k,v in enumerate(sys.argv): print k,v it ignores the part after # on linux below is the running output on windows and linux. no clue here. This has nothing to do with python, it's the shell that treats the # and everything that follows as a comment. $ ./listargs.py alpha #beta 0 ./listargs.py 1 alpha But you can escape it: $ ./listargs.py alpha \#beta 0 ./listargs.py 1 alpha 2 #beta $ ./listargs.py alpha '#beta' 0 ./listargs.py 1 alpha 2 #beta Peter -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: a question about the #prefix of sys.argv
On Jun 2, 9:54 am, Aldarion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for the little script #egg.py import sys for k,v in enumerate(sys.argv): print k,v it ignores the part after # on linux Perhaps it is the linux shell ... below is the running output on windows and linux. no clue here. D:\python\noteegg.py #test 0 D:\python\note\egg.py 1 #test D:\python\noteegg.py for bar #spam egg 0 D:\python\note\egg.py 1 for 2 bar 3 #spam 4 egg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/transfer$ python2.5 egg.py #test 0 egg.py [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/transfer$ python2.5 egg.py foo bar #spam egg 0 egg.py 1 foo 2 bar -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: a question about the #prefix of sys.argv
On 6月2日, 上午8时05分, Peter Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aldarion wrote: for the little script #egg.py import sys for k,v in enumerate(sys.argv): print k,v it ignores the part after # on linux below is the running output on windows and linux. no clue here. This has nothing to do with python, it's the shell that treats the # and everything that follows as a comment. $ ./listargs.py alpha #beta 0 ./listargs.py 1 alpha But you can escape it: $ ./listargs.py alpha \#beta 0 ./listargs.py 1 alpha 2 #beta $ ./listargs.py alpha '#beta' 0 ./listargs.py 1 alpha 2 #beta Peter thanks everyone for the quickly reply, i see now. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Good grid + calendar, etc.?
Gilles Ganault wrote: The grid can be quite advanced. Did you look at the wxPython demo? Or Dabo? Yes, but although the basic wigets are just fine, wxGrid looks a bit like the basic TStringGrid in Delphi, ie. it's pretty basic so that several vendors came up with enhanced alternatives. But maybe I haven't played with it long enough. You don't say anything about looking at Dabo. If you are serious about writing real business apps, then you really do need to look at Dabo. While it's GUI objects may not be quite up to what you need, the framework itself is very critical to developing business apps. From your posts in this thread, it sounds to me like Dabo would greatly help you build the back-end database and business logic at least. Despite what you say about web interfaces in business applications, from what I've seen it's all going that way. PeopleSoft, etc. Everything is about web-delivered apps, with web services and custom integration these days. HTML/CSS/Ajax and a bit of Silverlight or Flash for the super custom widgets is actually competing *very* well with the traditional Delphi business widgets. True this requires you to maintain code in multiple languages, but frankly that's the cost of doing business. Business apps are *complicated* to build. When it does come down to it, you'll probably have to build some of your own widgets. PyQT makes this quite easy. Canvases, HTML widgets, etc. If you're going to all the work of developing a complete business app, then the work that goes into developing custom GUI components isn't that bad, compared. Since your target audience appears to be windows users, though, I'd second the notion of using IronPython and leveraging SWF .NET widgets. In theory this would run fine under Mono on Unix if you wanted to branch out. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Better performance
Hello Folks, I am facing a problem where i need to parse around 200 files, i have a bit of knowledge in PHP/Perl/Python (the magic P :-P) Which one would you suggest me since i have to generate a web interface ? And each one has his area of 'work' Thanks for your help ! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Better performance
Hello Folks, I am facing a problem where i need to parse around 200 files, i have a bit of knowledge in PHP/Perl/Python (the magic P :-P) Which one would you suggest me since i have to generate a web interface ? And each one has his area of 'work' Thanks for your help ! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
[issue3018] tkinter demos fixed
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[issue3018] tkinter demos fixed
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[issue837234] Tk.quit and sys.exit cause Fatal Error
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[issue775544] Tk.quit leads to crash in python.exe
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[issue1675334] Draft implementation for PEP 364
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[issue2997] PyNumberMethods has left-over fields in Py3
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[issue3020] doctest should have lib2to3 integration
New submission from Stefan Behnel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Running a doctest with Py2 syntax in Py3 currently involves either running the 2to3 tool by hand or writing code to convert the doctest using lib2to3, and then running the modified version. This basically pushes the burden of automating this step in any test runner script in the world onto the authors or users of these scripts. Writing portable code is hard enough, but writing portable doctests that remain user readable should not remain as hard as it currently is. The doctest module in Py3 should have a simple option to run a Py2 doctest (in a file or doc string) without requiring users to write the glue code for it. On a related note, if a 3to2 tool becomes available, this should be directly supported by doctest in Py2.6. -- assignee: collinwinter components: 2to3 (2.x to 3.0 conversion tool), Library (Lib) messages: 67594 nosy: collinwinter, scoder severity: normal status: open title: doctest should have lib2to3 integration type: feature request versions: Python 3.0 ___ Python tracker [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bugs.python.org/issue3020 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue2775] Implement PEP 3108
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[issue2917] merge pickle and cPickle in 3.0
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[issue1513695] new turtle module
Gregor Lingl [EMAIL PROTECTED] added the comment: Hi, here is my contribution. The zip-file contains - the module turtle.py - a doc-file turtle-docs.txt - a subdirectory with a series of sample scripts and a demoviewer. (one of the demoscripts is a standalone script) Clearly the docs have to be transformed to reST. I would do it or participate but that certainly would only be ready within 2 or 3 weeks. The end of the school year is near and I have a huge amount of work in my school until approx. 20th of June. After this I have plenty of time also for correcting etc. Of course I'll also do bugfixes etc. Anyway I'm interested in feedback of any sort. I worked hard to do my best and I hope the result will be appreciated. Best regards, Gregor Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file10493/turtle.zip ___ Python tracker [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bugs.python.org/issue1513695 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue2507] Exception state lives too long in 3.0
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[issue2833] __exit__ silences the active exception
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[issue1883] Adapt pydoc to new doc system
Georg Brandl [EMAIL PROTECTED] added the comment: OK, this is fixed by including topic help as a separate module, and not relying on the HTML documentation, in r63871. -- resolution: - fixed status: open - closed ___ Python tracker [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bugs.python.org/issue1883 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue2873] Remove htmllib use in the stdlib
Georg Brandl [EMAIL PROTECTED] added the comment: Removed usage in pydoc in r63871. -- nosy: +georg.brandl resolution: - fixed status: open - closed ___ Python tracker [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bugs.python.org/issue2873 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue600362] relocate cgi.parse_qs() into urlparse
Senthil [EMAIL PROTECTED] added the comment: parse_qs and parse_qsl moved to urlparse with this patch. I dont think urlencode would be a good method for urlparse. But this will cease to exist with the addressing of 3108. -- keywords: +patch Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file10496/issue600362.diff ___ Python tracker [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bugs.python.org/issue600362 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue2507] Exception state lives too long in 3.0
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[issue2833] __exit__ silences the active exception
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[issue3022] mailbox module, two small fixes
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[issue3021] Lexical exception handlers
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[issue2775] Implement PEP 3108
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