ANN: Python Meeting Düsseldorf - 22.01.2013 (Erinnerung/Reminder)
[This announcement is in German since it targets a local user group meeting in Düsseldorf, Germany] ANKÜNDIGUNG / ERINNERUNG Python Meeting Düsseldorf http://pyddf.de/ Ein Treffen von Python Enthusiasten und Interessierten in ungezwungener Atmosphäre. Dienstag, 22.01.2013, 18:00 Uhr Clara Schumann Raum DJH Düsseldorf Diese Nachricht können Sie auch online lesen: http://www.egenix.com/company/news/Python-Meeting-Duesseldorf-2013-01-22 EINLEITUNG Das Python Meeting Düsseldorf (http://pyddf.de/) ist eine neue lokale Veranstaltung in Düsseldorf, die sich an Python Begeisterte in der Region wendet. Wir starten bei den Treffen mit einer kurzen Einleitung und gehen dann zu einer Reihe Kurzvorträgen (Lightning Talks) über, bei denen die Anwesenden über neue Projekte, interessante Probleme und sonstige Aktivitäten rund um Python berichten können. Anschließend geht es in eine Gaststätte, um die Gespräche zu vertiefen. Einen guten Überblick über die Vorträge bietet unser YouTube-Kanal, auf dem wir die Vorträge nach den Meetings veröffentlichen: http://www.youtube.com/pyddf/ Daneben haben wir auch eine Mailing Liste für Python- Interessierte aus dem Ruhrgebiet und Meeting-Teilnehmer: https://www.egenix.com/mailman/listinfo/pyddf Für Ankündigungen gibt es zusätzlich folgende Kanäle: Twitter: https://twitter.com/pyddf Facebook Seite: https://www.facebook.com/PythonMeetingDusseldorf Facebook Gruppe: https://www.facebook.com/groups/397118706993326/ Veranstaltet wird das Meeting von der eGenix.com GmbH, Langenfeld, in Zusammenarbeit mit Clark Consulting Research, Düsseldorf: * http://www.egenix.com/ * http://www.clark-consulting.eu/ ORT Für das Python Meeting Düsseldorf haben wir den Clara Schumann Raum in der modernen Jugendherberge Düsseldorf angemietet: Jugendherberge Düsseldorf Düsseldorfer Str. 1 40545 Düsseldorf Telefon: +49 211 557310 http://www.duesseldorf.jugendherberge.de Die Jugendherberge verfügt über eine kostenpflichtige Tiefgarage (EUR 2,50 pro Stunde, maximal EUR 10,00). Es ist aber auch möglich per Bus und Bahn anzureisen. Der Raum befindet sich im 1.OG links. PROGRAMM Das Python Meeting Düsseldorf nutzt eine Mischung aus Open Space und Lightning Talks: Die Treffen starten mit einer kurzen Einleitung. Danach geht es weiter mit einer Lightning Talk Session, in der die Anwesenden Kurzvorträge von fünf Minuten halten können. Hieraus ergeben sich dann meisten viele Ansatzpunkte für Diskussionen, die dann den Rest der verfügbaren Zeit in Anspruch nehmen können. Für 19:45 Uhr haben wir in einem nahegelegenen Restaurant Plätze reserviert, damit auch das leibliche Wohl nicht zu kurz kommt. Lightning Talks können vorher angemeldet werden, oder auch spontan während des Treffens eingebracht werden. Ein Beamer mit XGA Auflösung steht zur Verfügung. Folien bitte als PDF auf USB Stick mitbringen. Lightning Talk Anmeldung bitte formlos per EMail an i...@pyddf.de KOSTENBETEILIGUNG Das Python Meeting Düsseldorf wird von Python Nutzern für Python Nutzer veranstaltet. Da Tagungsraum, Beamer, Internet und Getränke Kosten produzieren, bitten wir die Teilnehmer um einen Beitrag in Höhe von EUR 10,00 inkl. 19% Mwst. Wir möchten alle Teilnehmer bitten, den Betrag in bar mitzubringen. ANMELDUNG Da wir nur für ca. 20 Personen Sitzplätze haben, möchten wir bitten, sich per EMail anzumelden. Damit wird keine Verpflichtung eingegangen. Es erleichtert uns allerdings die Planung. Meeting Anmeldung bitte formlos per EMail an i...@pyddf.de WEITERE INFORMATIONEN Weitere Informationen finden Sie auf der Webseite des Meetings: http://pyddf.de/ Mit freundlichen Grüßen, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Dec 28 2012) Python Projects, Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...http://python.egenix.com/ 2013-01-22: Python Meeting Duesseldorf ... 25 days to go : Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! :: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
ANN: Portable Python 2.7.3.2 released
Dear people, I would like to announce new release of Portable Python based on Python 2.7.3 Included in this release: - PyScripter v2.5.3 NymPy 1.6.2 SciPy 0.11.0 Matplotlib 1.1.1 PyWin32 218 Django 1.4.3 PIL 1.1.7 Py2Exe 0.6.9 wxPython 2.9.4.0 NetworkX 1.7 Lxml 2.3 PySerial 2.5 PyODBC 3.0.6 PyGame 1.9.1 PyGTK 2.24.2 PyQt 4.9.6-1 Improvements since last release: Aside from upgrade of all pacakges listed above these are improvements and bugfixes compared to 2.7.3.1 release - Django scripts added to App\Scripts - Python-Portable.exe and all other *-Portable.exe are accepting command line arguments. This is now preferred way of running your python scripts from command line. - Fixed MSCRT version included with the package and issues with running Portable Python on machines without MSCRT installed. - Help in QtDesigner is available and working - Fixed UIC that was missing from PyQt - Fixed issues with running Py2Exe on machines without MSCRT - By default all packages are installed if selection is not modified during the installation Installation and use: - After downloading, run the installer, select the packages you would like to install, select the target folder and you are done! In the root folder of the distribution you will find shortcuts for selected applications. Some of the most popular free Python IDE’s come preinstalled and preconfigured with Portable Python. How to use and configure them further please consult their documentation or project sites. Download location: http://portablepython.com/wiki/PortablePython2.7.3.2 Warning: Default installation installs all packages - make sure to review packages selection during installation process as it can take quite some time to install 505MB on the USB drive(s). Please use feedback and support section on the portal to request new packages or to report issues. I hope you will have some fun with it ! Perica Zivkovic http://www.PortablePython.com -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list Support the Python Software Foundation: http://www.python.org/psf/donations/
Re: Probabilistic unit tests?
On 11 Jan, 13:34, Steven D'Aprano steve +comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: Well, that's not really a task for unit testing. Unit tests, like most tests, are well suited to deterministic tests, but not really to probabilistic testing. As far as I know, there aren't really any good frameworks for probabilistic testing, so you're stuck with inventing your own. (Possibly on top of unittest.) One approach I've had success with is providing a seed to the RNG, so that the random results are deterministic. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Compiling native extensions with Visual Studio 2012?
Okay, got all extensions I require to compile successfully with MSVC 2012. Trick was using this fork: https://github.com/wcdolphin/py-bcrypt (See their issue log for traceback) =] On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Alec Taylor alec.tayl...@gmail.com wrote: There have been various threads for MSVC 2010[1][2], but the most recent thing I found for MSVC 2012 was [3]… from 6 months ago. Basically I want to be able to compile bcrypt—and yes I should be using Keccak—x64 binaries on Windows x64. There are other packages also which I will benefit from, namely I won't need to use the unofficial setup files and will finally be able to use virtualenv. So anyway, can I get an update on the status of MSVC 2010 and MSVC 2012 compatibility? Thanks, Alec Taylor [1] http://bugs.python.org/issue13210 [2] http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xPaU9mlCBNEJ:wiki.python.org/moin/VS2010+cd=1hl=enct=clnk [3] https://groups.google.com/d/topic/dev-python/W1RpFhaOIGk -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Query windows event log with python
On 12 Jan, 16:09, robey.lawre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am looking to write a short program to query the windows event log. It needs to ask the user for input for The event type (Critical, Error, and Information), and the user needs to be able to specify a date since when they want to view results. I understand I will need the pywin32 extension, which i already have installed. I found this piece of code to start from, code import win32evtlog # requires pywin32 pre-installed server = 'localhost' # name of the target computer to get event logs logtype = 'System' # 'Application' # 'Security' hand = win32evtlog.OpenEventLog(server,logtype) flags = win32evtlog.EVENTLOG_BACKWARDS_READ|win32evtlog.EVENTLOG_SEQUENTIAL_READ total = win32evtlog.GetNumberOfEventLogRecords(hand) while True: events = win32evtlog.ReadEventLog(hand, flags,0) if events: for event in events: print 'Event Category:', event.EventCategory print 'Time Generated:', event.TimeGenerated print 'Source Name:', event.SourceName print 'Event ID:', event.EventID print 'Event Type:', event.EventType data = event.StringInserts if data: print 'Event Data:' for msg in data: print msg print /code Thanks for any help. Robey What would you like us to provide? Pointers to the Python tutorial? Or all of the code? Generally, the onus is on you to attempt to come up with solution yourself and then to ask for assistance where required. If you want someone to just write it for you, then you might want to mention how you plan on recompensing them. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: String concatenation benchmarking weirdness
from timeit import timeit, repeat
size = 1000
r = repeat(y = x + 'a', setup = x = 'a' * %i % size)
print('1:', r)
r = repeat(y = x + 'é', setup = x = 'a' * %i % size)
print('2:', r)
r = repeat(y = x + 'œ', setup = x = 'a' * %i % size)
print('3:', r)
r = repeat(y = x + '€', setup = x = 'a' * %i % size)
print('4:', r)
r = repeat(y = x + '€', setup = x = '€' * %i % size)
print('5:', r)
r = repeat(y = x + 'œ', setup = x = 'œ' * %i % size)
print('6:', r)
r = repeat(y = é + 'œ', setup = é = 'œ' * %i % size)
print('7:', r)
r = repeat(y = é + 'œ', setup = é = '€' * %i % size)
print('8:', r)
c:\python32\pythonw -u vitesse3.py
1: [0.3603178435286996, 0.42901157137281515, 0.35459694357592086]
2: [0.3576409223543202, 0.4272010951864649, 0.3590055732104662]
3: [0.3552022735516487, 0.4256544908828328, 0.35824546465278573]
4: [0.35488168890607774, 0.4271707696118834, 0.36109528098614074]
5: [0.3560675370237849, 0.4261538782668417, 0.36138160167082134]
6: [0.3570182634788317, 0.4270155971913008, 0.35770629956705324]
7: [0.3556977225493485, 0.4264969117143753, 0.3645634239700426]
8: [0.35511247834379844, 0.4259628665308437, 0.3580737510097034]
Exit code: 0
c:\Python33\pythonw -u vitesse3.py
1: [0.3053600256152646, 0.3306491917840535, 0.3044963374976518]
2: [0.36252767208680514, 0.36937298133086727, 0.3685573415262271]
3: [0.7666293438924097, 0.7653473991487574, 0.7630926729867262]
4: [0.7636680712265038, 0.7647586103955284, 0.7631395397838059]
5: [0.44721085450773934, 0.3863234021671369, 0.45664368355696094]
6: [0.44699700013114807, 0.3873974001136613, 0.45167383387335036]
7: [0.4465200615491014, 0.387050034441188, 0.45459690419205856]
8: [0.44760587465455437, 0.3875261853459726, 0.45421212384964704]
Exit code: 0
The difference between a correct (coherent) unicode handling and ...
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Re: Query windows event log with python
On 12/01/2013 06:09, robey.lawre...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking to write a short program to query the windows event log. It needs to ask the user for input for The event type (Critical, Error, and Information), and the user needs to be able to specify a date since when they want to view results. I found this piece of code to start from, [... snip ...] Well it looks like you have everything you need. Was there a specific question you wanted to ask? TJG -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: String concatenation benchmarking weirdness
On 1/12/2013 3:38 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
from timeit import timeit, repeat
size = 1000
r = repeat(y = x + 'a', setup = x = 'a' * %i % size)
print('1:', r)
r = repeat(y = x + 'é', setup = x = 'a' * %i % size)
print('2:', r)
r = repeat(y = x + 'œ', setup = x = 'a' * %i % size)
print('3:', r)
r = repeat(y = x + '€', setup = x = 'a' * %i % size)
print('4:', r)
r = repeat(y = x + '€', setup = x = '€' * %i % size)
print('5:', r)
r = repeat(y = x + 'œ', setup = x = 'œ' * %i % size)
print('6:', r)
r = repeat(y = é + 'œ', setup = é = 'œ' * %i % size)
print('7:', r)
r = repeat(y = é + 'œ', setup = é = '€' * %i % size)
print('8:', r)
c:\python32\pythonw -u vitesse3.py
1: [0.3603178435286996, 0.42901157137281515, 0.35459694357592086]
2: [0.3576409223543202, 0.4272010951864649, 0.3590055732104662]
3: [0.3552022735516487, 0.4256544908828328, 0.35824546465278573]
4: [0.35488168890607774, 0.4271707696118834, 0.36109528098614074]
5: [0.3560675370237849, 0.4261538782668417, 0.36138160167082134]
6: [0.3570182634788317, 0.4270155971913008, 0.35770629956705324]
7: [0.3556977225493485, 0.4264969117143753, 0.3645634239700426]
8: [0.35511247834379844, 0.4259628665308437, 0.3580737510097034]
Exit code: 0
c:\Python33\pythonw -u vitesse3.py
1: [0.3053600256152646, 0.3306491917840535, 0.3044963374976518]
2: [0.36252767208680514, 0.36937298133086727, 0.3685573415262271]
3: [0.7666293438924097, 0.7653473991487574, 0.7630926729867262]
4: [0.7636680712265038, 0.7647586103955284, 0.7631395397838059]
5: [0.44721085450773934, 0.3863234021671369, 0.45664368355696094]
6: [0.44699700013114807, 0.3873974001136613, 0.45167383387335036]
7: [0.4465200615491014, 0.387050034441188, 0.45459690419205856]
8: [0.44760587465455437, 0.3875261853459726, 0.45421212384964704]
Exit code: 0
The difference between a correct (coherent) unicode handling and ...
By 'correct' Jim means 'speedy', for a subset of string operations*.
rather than 'accurate'. In 3.2 and before, CPython does not handle
extended plane characters correctly on Windows and other narrow builds.
This is, by the way, true of many other languages. For instance, Tcl 8.5
and before (not sure about the new 8.6) does not handle them at all. The
same is true of Microsoft command windows.
* lets try another comparison:
from timeit import timeit
print(timeit(a.encode(), a = 'a'*1))
3.2: 12.1 seconds
3.3.7 seconds
3.3 is 15 times faster!!! (The factor increases with the length of a.)
A fairer comparison is the approximately 120 micro benchmarks in
Tools/stringbench.py. Here they are, uncensored, for 3.3.0 and 3.2.3. It
is in the Tools directory of some distributions but not all (including
not Windows). It can be downloaded from
http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/6fe28afa6611/Tools/stringbench
In FireFox, Right-click on the stringbench.py link and 'Save link as...'
to somewhere you can run it from.
stringbench v2.0
3.3.0 (v3.3.0:bd8afb90ebf2, Sep 29 2012, 10:57:17) [MSC v.1600 64 bit
(AMD64)]
2013-01-12 06:17:51.685781
bytes unicode
(in ms) (in ms) % comment
== case conversion -- dense
0.41 0.43 95.2 (WHERE IN THE WORLD IS CARMEN SAN DEIGO?*10).lower()
(*1000)
0.42 0.43 95.8 (where in the world is carmen san deigo?*10).upper()
(*1000)
== case conversion -- rare
0.41 0.43 95.8 (Where in the world is Carmen San Deigo?*10).lower()
(*1000)
0.42 0.43 96.3 (wHERE IN THE WORLD IS cARMEN sAN dEIGO?*10).upper()
(*1000)
== concat 20 strings of words length 4 to 15
1.831.9594.1s1+s2+s3+s4+...+s20 (*1000)
== concat two strings
0.100.1098.7Andrew+Dalke (*1000)
== count AACT substrings in DNA example
2.462.44100.9 dna.count(AACT) (*10)
== count newlines
0.770.75103.6 ...text.with.2000.newlines.count(\n) (*10)
== early match, single character
0.300.27110.5 (A*1000).find(A) (*1000)
0.450.06750.5 A in A*1000 (*1000)
0.300.27110.4 (A*1000).index(A) (*1000)
0.240.22107.2 (A*1000).partition(A) (*1000)
0.330.29116.6 (A*1000).rfind(A) (*1000)
0.320.29107.9 (A*1000).rindex(A) (*1000)
0.200.2194.1(A*1000).rpartition(A) (*1000)
0.420.4593.4(A*1000).rsplit(A, 1) (*1000)
0.390.4195.9(A*1000).split(A, 1) (*1000)
== early match, two characters
0.320.27121.1 (AB*1000).find(AB) (*1000)
0.450.06729.5 AB in AB*1000 (*1000)
0.300.27111.2 (AB*1000).index(AB) (*1000)
0.230.2885.0(AB*1000).partition(AB) (*1000)
0.330.30110.6 (AB*1000).rfind(AB) (*1000)
0.330.30110.5 (AB*1000).rindex(AB) (*1000)
0.220.2783.1(AB*1000).rpartition(AB) (*1000)
0.460.4796.7(AB*1000).rsplit(AB, 1) (*1000)
0.440.4890.9(AB*1000).split(AB, 1) (*1000)
== endswith multiple characters
0.240.2984.0Andrew.endswith(Andrew) (*1000)
== endswith multiple characters - not!
0.260.28
stringbench (was Re: String concatenation benchmarking weirdness)
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: 0.410.4395.2(WHERE IN THE WORLD IS CARMEN SAN DEIGO?*10).lower() Why does stringbench misspell the name Carmen Sandiego? Copyright avoidance? ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyWart: Module access syntax
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Rick Johnson rantingrickjohn...@gmail.comwrote: Python's module/package access uses dot notation. mod1.mod2.mod3.modN Like many warts of the language, this wart is not so apparent when first learning the language. The dot seems innocently sufficient, however, in truth it is woefully inadequate! Observe: name1.name2.name3.name4.name5 I find it reassuring to have these kinds of questions on the list, because they actually remind me how brilliantly designed Python is. As the user of a module I shouldn't care about the internal arrangement of objects and files. I don't care. More than that, as the writer of a module I should be free to refactor the internals of a module without breaking existing code. There is absolutely nothing wrong at all with the syntax. In fact, it's fantastic. N. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Dependency management in Python?
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 06:42:18PM -0800, Adelbert Chang wrote: Another question - how do we then get PIP to the latest version? Or is it relatively easy to uninstall/reinstall PIP? Simply do a $ pip install -U distribute $ pip install -U pip from time to time in your virtual environment. As a side note: some versions of distribute, pip and virtualenv do interact rather poorly on Python 3. Upgrading via easy_install: $ easy_install -U distribute $ easy_install -U pip usually solves these issues. Have fun! Thomas -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
proposal: Ellipsis in argument list
Dear All, I have an idea that the Ellipsis object could be used in function calls. The ... syntax should automagically turn into an Ellipsis positional argument. def f(*args): ext_args = [] for i, a in enumerate(args): if a is Ellipsis: ext_args.extend([x for x in range(args[i-1]-1, args[i+1])]) else: ext_args.append(a) return ext_args Calling it for the above example specifically: f(34, ..., 43) [34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43] That might be useless or someone might say it is confusing, but I think it would be relatively easy to implement and a nice little syntactic sugar. Best regards, Szabolcs Blaga -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: proposal: Ellipsis in argument list
Szabolcs Blága, 12.01.2013 14:30: I have an idea that the Ellipsis object could be used in function calls. The ... syntax should automagically turn into an Ellipsis positional argument. def f(*args): ext_args = [] for i, a in enumerate(args): if a is Ellipsis: ext_args.extend([x for x in range(args[i-1]-1, args[i+1])]) else: ext_args.append(a) return ext_args Calling it for the above example specifically: f(34, ..., 43) [34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43] That might be useless or someone might say it is confusing, but I think it would be relatively easy to implement and a nice little syntactic sugar. Not sure what exactly you are proposing here, this works for me: Python 3.2.3 (default, Oct 19 2012, 19:53:16) [GCC 4.7.2] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information. def f(*args): print(args) f(34, ..., 43) (34, Ellipsis, 43) Stefan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Probabilistic unit tests?
In article 693d4bb1-8e1e-4de0-9d4d-8a136ea70...@pp8g2000pbb.googlegroups.com, alex23 wuwe...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 Jan, 13:34, Steven D'Aprano steve +comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: Well, that's not really a task for unit testing. Unit tests, like most tests, are well suited to deterministic tests, but not really to probabilistic testing. As far as I know, there aren't really any good frameworks for probabilistic testing, so you're stuck with inventing your own. (Possibly on top of unittest.) One approach I've had success with is providing a seed to the RNG, so that the random results are deterministic. Sometimes, a hybrid approach is best. I was once working on some code which had timing-dependent behavior. The input space was so large, there was no way to exhaustively test all conditions. What we did was use a PRNG to drive the test scenarios, seeded with the time. We would print out the seed at the beginning of the test. This let us explore a much larger range of the input space than we could have with hand-written test scenarios. There was also a mode where you could supply your own PRNG seed. So, the typical deal would be to wait for a failure during normal (nightly build) testing, then grab the seed from the test logs and use that to replicate the behavior for further study. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: stringbench (was Re: String concatenation benchmarking weirdness)
On 1/12/2013 6:42 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: 0.410.4395.2(WHERE IN THE WORLD IS CARMEN SAN DEIGO?*10).lower() Why does stringbench misspell the name Carmen Sandiego? Copyright avoidance? Or ignorance. Perhaps I will fix it some day. -- Terry Jan Reedy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: stringbench (was Re: String concatenation benchmarking weirdness)
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: On 1/12/2013 6:42 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote: 0.410.4395.2(WHERE IN THE WORLD IS CARMEN SAN DEIGO?*10).lower() Why does stringbench misspell the name Carmen Sandiego? Copyright avoidance? Or ignorance. Perhaps I will fix it some day. Heh. And here I was assuming everything had a strong and purposeful cause... ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Compiling native extensions with Visual Studio 2012?
Am 12.01.2013 08:45, schrieb Alec Taylor: There have been various threads for MSVC 2010[1][2], but the most recent thing I found for MSVC 2012 was [3]… from 6 months ago. Basically I want to be able to compile bcrypt—and yes I should be using Keccak—x64 binaries on Windows x64. There are other packages also which I will benefit from, namely I won't need to use the unofficial setup files and will finally be able to use virtualenv. So anyway, can I get an update on the status of MSVC 2010 and MSVC 2012 compatibility? The problem is that every MSVC has its own libc / CRT (msvcrt.dll) with its own implementations of malloc(), FILE pointer, thread local storage, errno etc. You shouldn't mix multiple CRTs in one program as this may lead to crashes and hard to find bugs. Why do you want to compile your own Keccak / SHA-3 binaries anyway? I have build and released binaries for X86 and X86_64 Windows and for Python 2.6 and 3.3. For Python 3.4 I'm working on a PEP about the integration of pbkdf2, bcrypt and scrypt into Python's stdlib. Christian -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: average time calculation??
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 09:50:37 -0800 (PST)
pmec pcura...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi there guys i've got a script that's suppose to find the average of two
times as strings. The times are in minutes:seconds:milliseconds
i'm doing ok in printing the right minutes and seconds my problem is with the
milliseconds.
Example if i have 00:02:20 and 00:04:40 the average will be 00:03:30 or
00:02:00 and 00:03:00 will be 00:02:30
This is how I would probably go about it:
Convert your strings to floating point values which describe the time
in seconds. Look at string.split() if you do it by hand. You could also
use a regular expression ('re' module).
Then, calculate the average: (a+b)*0.5
Then, convert back to your string format if you must.
This may sound like more work at first but it is probably easier and
less error-prone than messing with those separate values.
Make sure you properly understand the string format first.
minutes:seconds:milliseconds sounds unusual to me, but if you know for
certain that is the format, then it is :)
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Re: average time calculation??
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Thomas Boell tboell@domain.invalid wrote: This is how I would probably go about it: Convert your strings to floating point values which describe the time in seconds. Either floats or integers (which would be milliseconds, or whatever your smallest unit is). I tend to prefer integers for this sort of work, but do whichever you feel more comfortable working with. ChrisA -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Compiling native extensions with Visual Studio 2012?
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Christian Heimes christ...@python.org wrote: Am 12.01.2013 08:45, schrieb Alec Taylor: There have been various threads for MSVC 2010[1][2], but the most recent thing I found for MSVC 2012 was [3]… from 6 months ago. Basically I want to be able to compile bcrypt—and yes I should be using Keccak—x64 binaries on Windows x64. There are other packages also which I will benefit from, namely I won't need to use the unofficial setup files and will finally be able to use virtualenv. So anyway, can I get an update on the status of MSVC 2010 and MSVC 2012 compatibility? The problem is that every MSVC has its own libc / CRT (msvcrt.dll) with its own implementations of malloc(), FILE pointer, thread local storage, errno etc. You shouldn't mix multiple CRTs in one program as this may lead to crashes and hard to find bugs. Why do you want to compile your own Keccak / SHA-3 binaries anyway? I have build and released binaries for X86 and X86_64 Windows and for Python 2.6 and 3.3. For Python 3.4 I'm working on a PEP about the integration of pbkdf2, bcrypt and scrypt into Python's stdlib. Christian Would be awesome to get these built into stdlib. Compiling my own versions mostly for virtualenv purposes; though sometimes I can't find the binary on: http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: problems importing from /usr/lib/pyshared/
Thank you Dieter, Ubuntu 12 has introduced important changes with respect to glib (and depending packages). In fact, there are now two quite incompatible implementations - the old static one and a new dynamic one. It looks as if in your case, old and new implementations were mixed. I had a similar problem when upgrading to Ubuntu 12.4. In my case, it turned out that my (custom) PYTHONPATH setting was responsible for getting into the incompatibility. The new way to use gtk is via the gi (probable gnome interface) module. It looks like: from gi.repository import Gtk,GdkPixbuf,GObject,Pango,Gdk,Gio I will investigate this gi module. As for my import problem, it turned out that it was my own fault: following some recommendation on the web, I had added /usr/share/pyshared to the python path in ~/.profile and forgot to log out and in again after undoing this change. Everything works fine again, and I am ready to explore the new modules. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: String concatenation benchmarking weirdness
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:38 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: The difference between a correct (coherent) unicode handling and ... This thread was about byte string concatenation, not unicode, so your rant is not even on-topic here. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: async fuction
On 2013-01-12 04:43, alek...@silk.bz wrote: Hello. Can someone help me to resolv error. code: [snip] @Async def fnc(pi, pp): print fnc- i=pi while ( i 1000 ) : i=i+1 print fnc+ pass @Async def fnc1(pp): print fnc1-,pp @Async def fnc2(): print fnc2- i=0 while ( i 10 ) : i=i+1 print fnc2+ pass fnc(i=0,pp=123123) fnc1() error: Exception in thread fnc1: Traceback (most recent call last): File C:\Python27\lib\threading.py, line 551, in __bootstrap_inner self.run() File C:\Python27\lib\threading.py, line 504, in run self.__target(*self.__args, **self.__kwargs) File C:/Users/rootiks/YandexDisk/py/myftpbackup/asynclib.py, line 26, in run self.Result = self.Callable(*args, **kwargs) TypeError: fnc1() takes exactly 1 argument (0 given) 1. You're calling function 'fnc' with keyword arguments 'i' and 'pp'; it's expecting 'pi' and 'pp'. 2. You're calling function 'fnc1' with no arguments; it's expecting one argument. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Probabilistic unit tests?
On 12/01/13 08:07, alex23 wrote: On 11 Jan, 13:34, Steven D'Aprano steve +comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote: Well, that's not really a task for unit testing. Unit tests, like most tests, are well suited to deterministic tests, but not really to probabilistic testing. As far as I know, there aren't really any good frameworks for probabilistic testing, so you're stuck with inventing your own. (Possibly on top of unittest.) One approach I've had success with is providing a seed to the RNG, so that the random results are deterministic. My ex-boss once instructed to do the same thing to test functions for generating random variates. I used a statistical approach instead. There are often several ways of generating data that follow a particular distribution. If you use a given seed so that you get a deterministic sequence of uniform random variates you will get deterministic outputs for a specific implementation. But if you change the implementation the tests are likely to fail. e.g. To generate a negative exponential variate -ln(U)/lambda or -ln(1-U)/lambda will do the job correctly, but tests for one implementation would fail with the other. So each time you changed the implementation you'd need to change the tests. I think my boss had in mind that I would write the code, seed the RNG, call the function a few times, then use the generated values in the test. That would not even have tested the original implementation. I would have had a test that would only have tested whether the implementation had changed. I would argue, worse than no test at all. If I'd gone to the trouble of manually calculating the expected outputs so that I got valid tests for the original implementation, then I would have had a test that would effectively just serve as a reminder to go through the whole manual calculation process again for any changed implementation. A reasonably general statistical approach is possible. Any hypothesis about generated data that lends itself to statistical testing can be used to generate a sequence of p-values (one for each set of generated values) that can be checked (statistically) for uniformity. This effectively tests the distribution of the test statistic, so is better than simply testing whether tests on generated data pass, say, 95% of the time (for a chosen 5% Type I error rate). Cheers. Duncan -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
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Python 3.3 can't find PySide
Hi everybody, I'm just starting to dabble in Python development after spending years with C# and Java, but there's one small thing holding me back: I can't seem to get PySide working for the life of me. Let me explain: I'm on OS X 10.6.8 and have installed Python 3.3.0 and Qt 4.8.4 with Homebrew. The Python interpreter works fine, and all the Qt utilites are in my $PATH and installed correctly. Homebrew has a package for PySide, but it's only compiled against Python 2.x instead of 3.x (there is an issue about this, https://github.com/mxcl/homebrew/issues/16439), so I can't use that. I tried using the PySide BuildScripts on GitHub, but those fail with an error that I can't seem to resolve (I'll save that for a PySide list, I guess). I can't compile it manually because I don't have the expertise to pass the right options to cmake and tell it where to find all my Python stuff, so I'm really at my wit's end. I tried installing the Homebrew PySide package anyways, but putting the PySide directory (with __init__.py) in my PYTHONPATH didn't allow me to import anything from PySide; I guess this means that PySide has to be told to compile for 3.x instead of 2.x. My question: is there anybody who has had success installing PySide on OS X for Python 3.x? There must be a way, I must be missing something... right? I'll try to find a more relevant PySide list or something to pose this question on but in the meantime, if anybody has any suggestions, I'd appreciate your input. Thanks in advance! -- Tyson Moore tyson+use...@tyson.me -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyWart: Module access syntax
Chris Angelico於 2013年1月12日星期六UTC+8下午12時40分36秒寫道： On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Rick Johnson rantingrickjohn...@gmail.com wrote: *The problem:* ... is readability. The current dot syntax used ubiquitously in paths is not conveying the proper information to the reader, and in-fact obfuscating the code. Please explain how this is a problem. As Steven said, there is NO useful difference. I don't *care* whether it's a package, a module, or whatever. Module with class with static member? Fine. Package with module with class? Also fine. Imported special object that uses dunder methods to simulate either of the above? What's it matter to me, as long as I get my final result! Syntactic salt is seldom helpful. ChrisA This is somewhat like the following problem. Do we have to argue with people about the tastes of dishes in different restaurants ? Of course, I do because I love to enjoy fine dishes. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyWart: Import resolution order
On Jan 12, 3:28 pm, Rick Johnson rantingrickjohn...@gmail.com wrote: I am working on it. Stay tuned. Rick is going to rock your little programming world /very/ soon. I am so confidant that this will never happen that if you _do_ ever produce _anything_ that even remotely resembles your claims, I pledge to provide you with enough funding to continue full-time development on it for 5 years, let's say 5 years @ US$50k per year. However, one condition for acceptance will be that you never post here again. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: PyWart: Import resolution order
Ian於 2013年1月12日星期六UTC+8下午3時36分43秒寫道： On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Rick Johnson rantingrickjohn...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, January 11, 2013 12:30:27 AM UTC-6, Chris Angelico wrote: Why is it better to import from the current directory first? Opps. I was not explicit enough with my explanation :). I meant, look in the current directory FIRST when in a package. Since many times (most all times) packages will contain many sub-modules that need to be imported into the package's main.py module, and sometimes these modules will have the same name as a stdlib module, then looking in the package FIRST makes sense. And again, in Python 2.x this is already the case. When importing in a package, it tries to do a relative import before it even looks at sys.path. I think if python where *strict* about full paths for non-builtins, then we would be in a better place. And again, in Python 3, where implicit relative imports have been removed from the language, it already is strict about using full paths. You can still do relative imports, but you have to be explicit about them. For instance you could create a package named chris and then have a module named math exist inside. Alternatively if you choose to be a non-professional and create a math module without a containing package, python would throw the module into the default lib package. The only way you could access your math module now would be by using the path lib.math. What if I create a package named math? Does that also automatically get renamed to lib.math? How is it decided what package names are proper; is it just because it happens to clash with a stdlib name that the package gets magically renamed? What if I create a package, and then later a module with the same name happens to be added to the stdlib? My program that uses the package just breaks because it no longer imports the correct thing? Damn i am full of good ideas! Your ideas might be better if you first spent some time gaining a better understanding of how the language works as is. OK, I think to develop a GUI with auto-code translations in an IDE with python as the CAD/CAM scripting language can be helpful. But usually this kind of sotware projects is in the commercial part. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
ANN: Python training text movies
I don't know what to call these, so for now I'll call them training text movies until I come up with a better name.. I hope these will be helpful, especially to new students of Python. http://lightbird.net/larks/tmovies.html I'll be adding more in the next few days... - mitya -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: Query windows event log with python
On Saturday, January 12, 2013 8:34:01 PM UTC+11, Tim Golden wrote: On 12/01/2013 06:09, email.addr...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking to write a short program to query the windows event log. It needs to ask the user for input for The event type (Critical, Error, and Information), and the user needs to be able to specify a date since when they want to view results. I found this piece of code to start from, [... snip ...] Well it looks like you have everything you need. Was there a specific question you wanted to ask? TJG yes, I would like to run it in Command prompt and ask the user at the time what type and date of Event they would like to view. so i was wondering where in the code I could put something like var=raw_input Thanks TJG -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: Python training text movies
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:11:53 -0500, AK wrote: I don't know what to call these, so for now I'll call them training text movies until I come up with a better name.. I hope these will be helpful, especially to new students of Python. http://lightbird.net/larks/tmovies.html For the benefit of those who don't have web access at the moment, or who don't like to click on random links they don't know anything about, would you like to say a few words describing what text movies are, and how you think these may be helpful? -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: Python training text movies
On 01/13/2013 01:35 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:11:53 -0500, AK wrote: I don't know what to call these, so for now I'll call them training text movies until I come up with a better name.. I hope these will be helpful, especially to new students of Python. http://lightbird.net/larks/tmovies.html For the benefit of those who don't have web access at the moment, or who don't like to click on random links they don't know anything about, would you like to say a few words describing what text movies are, and how you think these may be helpful? Sure: they play back a list of instructions on use of string methods and list comprehensions along with demonstration in a mock-up of the interpreter with a different display effect for commands typed into (and printed out by) the interpeter. The speed can be changed and the playback can be paused. - mitya -- Lark's Tongue Guide to Python: http://lightbird.net/larks/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: Python training text movies
On 1/13/2013 2:08 AM, Mitya Sirenef wrote: On 01/13/2013 01:35 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:11:53 -0500, AK wrote: I don't know what to call these, so for now I'll call them training text movies until I come up with a better name.. I hope these will be helpful, especially to new students of Python. http://lightbird.net/larks/tmovies.html For the benefit of those who don't have web access at the moment, or who don't like to click on random links they don't know anything about, would you like to say a few words describing what text movies are, and how you think these may be helpful? Sure: they play back a list of instructions on use of string methods and list comprehensions along with demonstration in a mock-up of the interpreter with a different display effect for commands typed into (and printed out by) the interpeter. The speed can be changed and the playback can be paused. They are simulated videos of an interactive interpreter session, with entered commands appearing all at once instead of char by char, and with the extra features mentioned above. I presume the purported advantage over an after-the-fact transcript is focusing watcher attention on each entry and response. -- Terry Jan Reedy -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: ANN: Python training text movies
On 01/13/2013 02:28 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 1/13/2013 2:08 AM, Mitya Sirenef wrote: On 01/13/2013 01:35 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 00:11:53 -0500, AK wrote: I don't know what to call these, so for now I'll call them training text movies until I come up with a better name.. I hope these will be helpful, especially to new students of Python. http://lightbird.net/larks/tmovies.html For the benefit of those who don't have web access at the moment, or who don't like to click on random links they don't know anything about, would you like to say a few words describing what text movies are, and how you think these may be helpful? Sure: they play back a list of instructions on use of string methods and list comprehensions along with demonstration in a mock-up of the interpreter with a different display effect for commands typed into (and printed out by) the interpeter. The speed can be changed and the playback can be paused. They are simulated videos of an interactive interpreter session, with entered commands appearing all at once instead of char by char, and with the extra features mentioned above. I presume the purported advantage over an after-the-fact transcript is focusing watcher attention on each entry and response. That is right; I would also add that it may be overwhelming for a newbie to be reading through a large wall of text -- here you have blank space after the current paragraph so the attention is focused even more on the last few lines. Additionally, since instructions scroll automatically, I can space them out more than you would conventionally do in a manual. - mitya -- Lark's Tongue Guide to Python: http://lightbird.net/larks/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
[issue16398] deque.rotate() could be much faster
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 0d81333bde78 by Raymond Hettinger in branch '2.7': Issue #16398: Optimize deque.rotate() http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/0d81333bde78 -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16398 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16942] seriously? http.cookiejar.FileCookieJar().save method NOTImplemented?
New submission from C19: Is it means that we should use MozillaCookieJar LWPCookieJar or MSIECookieJar? But the document says perhaps save cookies to, a file on disk. http://docs.python.org/2/library/cookielib.html?highlight=filecookiejar#cookielib.FileCookieJar it looks like FileCookieJar is just a base class.it shouldn't be used on normal purpose(like save your cookie).then the document should be modified. but I think it's better to make the FileCookieJar works as expected. -- messages: 179777 nosy: C19 priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: seriously? http.cookiejar.FileCookieJar().save method NOTImplemented? type: enhancement versions: Python 3.1, Python 3.2, Python 3.3 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16942 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16942] seriously? urllib still doesn't support persistent connections?
C19 added the comment: # TODO(jhylton): Should this be redesigned to handle # persistent connections? # We want to make an HTTP/1.1 request, but the addinfourl # class isn't prepared to deal with a persistent connection. # It will try to read all remaining data from the socket, # which will block while the server waits for the next request. # So make sure the connection gets closed after the (only) # request. headers[Connection] = close http://bugs.python.org/issue9740 this has been a long time..how many is annoyed by this..Count me in.. persistent connections may not be easy on various OS and act the same. I'm just satisfied if it works on linux. -- title: seriously? http.cookiejar.FileCookieJar().save method NOTImplemented? - seriously? urllib still doesn't support persistent connections? versions: +Python 2.6, Python 2.7 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16942 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16943] seriously? FileCookieJar can't really save ? save method is NotImplemented
New submission from C19: Is it means that we should use MozillaCookieJar LWPCookieJar or MSIECookieJar? But the document says perhaps save cookies to, a file on disk. http://docs.python.org/2/library/cookielib.html?highlight=filecookiejar#cookielib.FileCookieJar it looks like FileCookieJar is just a base class.it shouldn't be used on normal purpose(like save your cookie).then the document should be modified. but I think it's better to make the FileCookieJar works as expected. -- messages: 179779 nosy: C19 priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: seriously? FileCookieJar can't really save ? save method is NotImplemented ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16943 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16943] seriously? FileCookieJar can't really save ? save method is NotImplemented
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[issue16942] seriously? urllib still doesn't support persistent connections?
C19 added the comment: https://github.com/shazow/urllib3 do we really have to use a 3rd party module for this ?.. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16942 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16940] argparse 15.4.5.1. Sub-commands documentation missing indentation
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset eae31f2b6f60 by Ezio Melotti in branch '2.7': #16940: fix indentation in example. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/eae31f2b6f60 New changeset 3d54723c9be6 by Ezio Melotti in branch '3.2': #16940: fix indentation in example. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/3d54723c9be6 New changeset b468f6c8eae5 by Ezio Melotti in branch '3.3': #16940: merge with 3.2. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/b468f6c8eae5 New changeset 6fe28afa6611 by Ezio Melotti in branch 'default': #16940: merge with 3.3. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/6fe28afa6611 -- nosy: +python-dev ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16940 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16940] argparse 15.4.5.1. Sub-commands documentation missing indentation
Ezio Melotti added the comment: Fixed, thanks for the report! -- assignee: docs@python - ezio.melotti nosy: +ezio.melotti resolution: - fixed stage: - committed/rejected status: open - closed type: - enhancement versions: +Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16940 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16943] seriously? FileCookieJar can't really save ? save method is NotImplemented
Changes by Nadeem Vawda nadeem.va...@gmail.com: -- resolution: - duplicate stage: - committed/rejected status: open - closed superseder: - seriously? urllib still doesn't support persistent connections? ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16943 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16942] urllib still doesn't support persistent connections
Changes by Ramchandra Apte maniandra...@gmail.com: -- title: seriously? urllib still doesn't support persistent connections? - urllib still doesn't support persistent connections ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16942 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue2267] datetime.datetime operator methods are not subclass-friendly
Mark Dickinson added the comment: Alexander: can this be closed as wont fix? -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue2267 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16829] IDLE on POSIX can't print filenames with spaces
Ramchandra Apte added the comment: Attached is a patch which uses subprocess. Haven't tested it much. -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file28705/issue16829.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16829 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16944] German number separators not working using format language and locale de_DE
New submission from Peter Stahl:
Yesterday, I opened a question on Stackoverflow that explains my problem in
detail. Please read this page first:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14287051/german-number-separators-using-format-language-on-osx
A short summary: I'm on OSX 10.8.2. I wanted to format numbers according to the
German numbering convention using Python's format language and the locale
setting de_DE. Actually, the following should work to achieve that:
import locale
locale.setlocale(locale.LC_ALL, 'de_DE')
'{0:n}'.format(1234.56)
The result of the last expressions should be 1.234,56. However, my result is
1234,56. More examples are on Stackoverflow.
According to what other SO members have found out, this is a problem with the
locale settings of OSX because the grouping of numbers is not fully part of the
locale de_DE. On Windows, however, grouping works fine using the locale
deu_deu which is not available on OSX.
Is this a bug? At least, it doesn't seem to be documented anywhere and is
probably not the correct behavior even on OSX. Others have reported similar
problems on OSX as well.
Do you have a quick solution for this issue? Thanks in advance.
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title: German number separators not working using format language and locale
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[issue16876] epoll: reuse epoll_event buffer instead of allocating a new one at each poll()
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[issue2267] datetime.datetime operator methods are not subclass-friendly
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[issue16944] German number separators not working using format language and locale de_DE
Stefan Krah added the comment:
What is the output of this?
locale.localeconv()
{'mon_decimal_point': ',', 'frac_digits': 2, 'p_sign_posn': 1, 'thousands_sep':
'.', 'p_sep_by_space': 1, 'int_curr_symbol': 'EUR ', 'decimal_point': ',',
'mon_thousands_sep': '.', 'n_sep_by_space': 1, 'int_frac_digits': 2,
'currency_symbol': 'EUR', 'negative_sign': '-', 'mon_grouping': [3, 3, 0],
'positive_sign': '', 'n_cs_precedes': 0, 'grouping': [3, 3, 0], 'n_sign_posn':
1, 'p_cs_precedes': 0}
If 'grouping' is [], then this looks like a bug in OSX. Python gets
the values directly from the operating system.
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[issue16944] German number separators not working using format language and locale de_DE
Peter Stahl added the comment:
Using the locale 'de_DE', the output is:
{'mon_decimal_point': ',', 'int_frac_digits': 2, 'p_sep_by_space': 0,
'frac_digits': 2, 'thousands_sep': '', 'n_sign_posn': 1, 'decimal_point': ',',
'int_curr_symbol': 'EUR ', 'n_cs_precedes': 1, 'p_sign_posn': 1,
'mon_thousands_sep': '.', 'negative_sign': '-', 'currency_symbol': 'Eu',
'n_sep_by_space': 0, 'mon_grouping': [3, 3, 0], 'p_cs_precedes': 1,
'positive_sign': '', 'grouping': [127]}
What does the number 127 mean?
Am 12.01.2013 um 12:39 schrieb Stefan Krah rep...@bugs.python.org:
Stefan Krah added the comment:
What is the output of this?
locale.localeconv()
{'mon_decimal_point': ',', 'frac_digits': 2, 'p_sign_posn': 1,
'thousands_sep': '.', 'p_sep_by_space': 1, 'int_curr_symbol': 'EUR ',
'decimal_point': ',', 'mon_thousands_sep': '.', 'n_sep_by_space': 1,
'int_frac_digits': 2, 'currency_symbol': 'EUR', 'negative_sign': '-',
'mon_grouping': [3, 3, 0], 'positive_sign': '', 'n_cs_precedes': 0,
'grouping': [3, 3, 0], 'n_sign_posn': 1, 'p_cs_precedes': 0}
If 'grouping' is [], then this looks like a bug in OSX. Python gets
the values directly from the operating system.
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[issue16944] German number separators not working using format language and locale de_DE
Stefan Krah added the comment: 127 means no-more-grouping, so Python behaves as instructed by the OS. As you see, the OS prescribes 1.345.677,222 for *monetary* quantities and 1345677,222 otherwise. According to http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_1333 , for non monetary quantities DIN-1333 says *empty spaces* *may* be used as separators. DIN-5008 says they *should* be used. :) Most operating systems use [3, 3, 0] also for de_DE 'grouping', but given the unclear situation it's hard to claim a bug in OSX. The only way out of this would be to introduce a new 'm' locale specifier that uses mon_grouping. -- nosy: +mark.dickinson ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16944 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue5380] pty.read raises IOError when slave pty device is closed
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[issue16076] xml.etree.ElementTree.Element is no longer pickleable
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 5b36768b9a11 by Eli Bendersky in branch '3.3': Issue #16076: fix refleak in pickling of Element. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/5b36768b9a11 New changeset 848738d3c40f by Eli Bendersky in branch 'default': Close #16076: fix refleak in pickling of Element. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/848738d3c40f -- stage: needs patch - committed/rejected status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16076 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16885] SQLite3 iterdump ordering
R. David Murray added the comment: When you say sometimes, do you mean randomly on the same schema, or do you mean depending on the specific schema sometimes it doesn't work? The code is the same in the other python versions, so I'm adding them as the bug doubtless exists there as well. -- versions: +Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16885 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16076] xml.etree.ElementTree.Element is no longer pickleable
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 4501813ea676 by Eli Bendersky in branch '3.3': Issue #16076: check for return value of PyTuple_New for args (following http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/4501813ea676 New changeset 7313096e0bad by Eli Bendersky in branch 'default': Issue #16076: check for return value of PyTuple_New for args (following http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/7313096e0bad -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16076 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16942] urllib still doesn't support persistent connections
R. David Murray added the comment: Please open a separate issue for your enhancement request in your second message (assuming there isn't already one open). I'm not sure what your third message is about, but it also sounds off topic for your original bug report. For the FileCookieJar issue, I agree that the documentation is unclear. However, it is perfectly reasonable to have a documented base class that is an Abstract Base Class, and there is no reason for us to invent our own unique cookie file format just to make FileCookieJar work by itself. ABCs didn't exist when FileCookieJar was implemented, so it should be turned in to one for 3.4 (it might break working code, so we shouldn't do that for bug fix releases). That way you would get a useful error when you try to instantiate it, rather than when you try to use it. And the docs should document it as being a base-class-only for all active releases. -- assignee: - docs@python components: +Documentation, Library (Lib) nosy: +docs@python, r.david.murray stage: - needs patch type: enhancement - behavior versions: +Python 3.4 -Python 3.1 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16942 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16922] ElementTree.findtext() returns empty bytes object instead of empty string
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[issue15031] Split .pyc parsing from module loading
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[issue15442] Expand the list of default dirs filecmp.dircmp ignores
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset a1efab48d8f8 by Eli Bendersky in branch 'default': Close #15442: Expand the list of default directories ignored by filecmp.dircmp and expose it as a module attribute http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/a1efab48d8f8 -- nosy: +python-dev resolution: - fixed stage: test needed - committed/rejected status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15442 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16945] rewrite CGIHTTPRequestHandler to always use subprocess
New submission from Charles-François Natali: On Unix, CGIHTTPRequestHandler.run_cgi() uses the following code to run a CGI script: pid = os.fork() [...] # Child try: try: os.setuid(nobody) except OSError: pass os.dup2(self.rfile.fileno(), 0) os.dup2(self.wfile.fileno(), 1) os.execve(scriptfile, args, env) It's basically reimplementing subprocess.Popen, with a potential securiy issue: open file descriptors are not closed before exec, which means that the CGI script - which is run as 'nobody' on Unix to reduce its priviledges - can inherit open sockets or files (unless they're close-on-exec)... The attached patch rewrites run_cgi() to use subprocess on all platorms. I'm not at all familiar with CGI, so I don't guarantee it's correct, but the regression test test_httpservers passes on Linux. It leads to cleaner and safer code, so if someone with some httpsever/CGI background could review it, it would be great. -- files: cgi_subprocess.diff keywords: needs review, patch messages: 179797 nosy: neologix priority: normal severity: normal stage: patch review status: open title: rewrite CGIHTTPRequestHandler to always use subprocess type: behavior versions: Python 3.4 Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file28706/cgi_subprocess.diff ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16945 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16880] Importing imp will fail if dynamic loading not supported
Brett Cannon added the comment: load_dynamic should probably be documented since it does something you can't do on your own and importlib itself uses it. As for the exception test, it should be to make sure ImportError is raised (i.e. the 'else' clause is hit). -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16880 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue10544] yield expression inside generator expression does nothing
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[issue10541] regrtest.py -T broken
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[issue16922] ElementTree.findtext() returns empty bytes object instead of empty string
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment: But all findtext tests are doctests and I want to keep the tests together. I think there should be separated issue for converting ElementTree doctests to unittests. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16922 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16922] ElementTree.findtext() returns empty bytes object instead of empty string
Eli Bendersky added the comment: Serhiy, indeed - that's issue #15083. But since rewriting all tests is a large task no one is willing to take at this point, my strategy has been incremental: rewrite a chunk at a time when tests are being touched. Just adding new doctests goes against the desired direction. I'll convert the findtext tests to unittest in 3.3 and default and then you can add your new tests in the proper place. Stay tuned. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16922 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15083] Rewrite ElementTree tests in a cleaner and safer way
Eli Bendersky added the comment: It should be noted that the doctests complicate things considerably, and should be rewritten to be unittest, which are easier to manipulate in terms of modules used. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15083 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16398] deque.rotate() could be much faster
Jesús Cea Avión added the comment: I am OK with this patch being applied to 2.7, but I wonder why. This is not a bugfix... :-) -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16398 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16946] subprocess: _close_open_fd_range_safe() does not set close-on-exec flag on Linux 2.6.23 if O_CLOEXEC is defined
New submission from STINNER Victor:
The following extract of _close_open_fd_range_safe() is not correct:
#ifdef O_CLOEXEC
fd_dir_fd = open(FD_DIR, O_RDONLY | O_CLOEXEC, 0);
#else
fd_dir_fd = open(FD_DIR, O_RDONLY, 0);
#ifdef FD_CLOEXEC
{
int old = fcntl(fd_dir_fd, F_GETFD);
if (old != -1)
fcntl(fd_dir_fd, F_SETFD, old | FD_CLOEXEC);
}
#endif
#endif
On Linux older than 2.6.23, O_CLOEXEC may be defined by the glibc whereas the
kernel does not support it. In this case, the flag is simply ignored and
close-on-exec flag is not set on the file descriptor.
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title: subprocess: _close_open_fd_range_safe() does not set close-on-exec flag
on Linux 2.6.23 if O_CLOEXEC is defined
versions: Python 3.2, Python 3.3, Python 3.4
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[issue16829] IDLE on POSIX can't print filenames with spaces
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment: No surrounding %%s with quotes, nor changing to %%r doesn't work in all cases, because Python and shell use different quoting schemas. The only solution is using shlex.quote (which available only since 3.3). But even in this case we should be careful, this can break user code if user has fixed the issue by surrounding %%s with quotes (singular or double) or changing to %%r. Perhaps we should substitute not only bare %%s, but also %%s, '%%s' and %%r. Ramchandra's patch doesn't help. First, shlex.split will fail in the same way as a shell. Second, we must run the command via shell, because user can use pipe or redirection. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16829 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16880] Importing imp will fail if dynamic loading not supported
Nick Coghlan added the comment: The misleading docs Terry pointed out should also be fixed to note that imp is still used to expose some functionality where importlib really does need help from the underlying platform (such as loading dynamic modules). -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16880 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16880] Importing imp will fail if dynamic loading not supported
Nurhusien Hasen added the comment: Pleas stop your from me all isuss masege On 1/13/13, Nick Coghlan rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: Nick Coghlan added the comment: The misleading docs Terry pointed out should also be fixed to note that imp is still used to expose some functionality where importlib really does need help from the underlying platform (such as loading dynamic modules). -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16880 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/nurhusien.hasen27%40gmail.com -- nosy: +Nurhusien2 ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16880 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16880] Importing imp will fail if dynamic loading not supported
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[issue16946] subprocess: _close_open_fd_range_safe() does not set close-on-exec flag on Linux 2.6.23 if O_CLOEXEC is defined
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[issue16259] Replace exec() in test.regrtest with __import__
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[issue12939] Add new io.FileIO using the native Windows API
Richard Oudkerk added the comment: Attached is a new patch which is implemented completely in C. It adds a WinFileIO class to the io module, which has the same API as FileIO except that: * It has a handle attribute instead of a fileno() method. * It has staticmethods openhandle() and closehandle() which are analogues of os.open() and os.close(). The patch also adds a keyword-only rawfiletype argument to io.open() so that you can write f = open(somefile, w, rawfiletype=WinFileIO) -- Added file: http://bugs.python.org/file28707/winfileio.patch ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue12939 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
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[issue16880] Importing imp will fail if dynamic loading not supported
Nurhusien Hasen added the comment: Pleas stop your from me all isuss maseges On 1/13/13, Nurhusien Hasen rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: Nurhusien Hasen added the comment: Pleas stop your from me all isuss masege On 1/13/13, Nurhusien Hasen nurhusien.hase...@gmail.com wrote: Pleas stop your from me all isuss masege On 1/13/13, Nick Coghlan rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: Nick Coghlan added the comment: The misleading docs Terry pointed out should also be fixed to note that imp is still used to expose some functionality where importlib really does need help from the underlying platform (such as loading dynamic modules). -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16880 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/nurhusien.hasen27%40gmail.com -- find signatures serves -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16880 ___ -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16880 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue12939] Add new io.FileIO using the native Windows API
Richard Oudkerk added the comment: Forgot to mention, the handles are non-inheritable. You can use _winapi.DuplicateHandle() to create an inheritable duplicate handle if you really need to. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue12939 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16941] TkInter won't update display on OS X if delay is too small
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[issue16947] Search for sherpa on pypi leads to gitflow
New submission from Christoph Deil: If you enter sherpa on http://pypi.python.org you currently get http://pypi.python.org/pypi/gitflow/0.5.0 Why? It doesn't make much sense as the term sherpa doesn't appear on that pypi page. Instead pypi should say not found, as the sherpa Python package is not registered on pypi: http://cxc.cfa.harvard.edu/contrib/sherpa/ -- components: None messages: 179813 nosy: Christoph.Deil priority: normal severity: normal status: open title: Search for sherpa on pypi leads to gitflow type: behavior ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16947 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16880] Importing imp will fail if dynamic loading not supported
Nurhusien Hasen added the comment: On 1/13/13, Nurhusien Hasen rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: Nurhusien Hasen added the comment: Pleas stop your from me all isuss maseges On 1/13/13, Nurhusien Hasen rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: Nurhusien Hasen added the comment: Pleas stop your from me all isuss masege On 1/13/13, Nurhusien Hasen nurhusien.hase...@gmail.com wrote: Pleas stop your from me all isuss masege On 1/13/13, Nick Coghlan rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: Nick Coghlan added the comment: The misleading docs Terry pointed out should also be fixed to note that imp is still used to expose some functionality where importlib really does need help from the underlying platform (such as loading dynamic modules). -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16880 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/nurhusien.hasen27%40gmail.com -- find signatures serves -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16880 ___ -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16880 ___ -- find signatures serves -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16880 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue15083] Rewrite ElementTree tests in a cleaner and safer way
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset f9d1d120c19e by Eli Bendersky in branch '3.3': Issues #15083 and #16992: port find.* method tests to unittest http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/f9d1d120c19e New changeset 18b16104166c by Eli Bendersky in branch 'default': Issues #15083 and #16992: port find.* method tests to unittest http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/18b16104166c -- nosy: +python-dev ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue15083 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16880] Importing imp will fail if dynamic loading not supported
Nurhusien Hasen added the comment: Pleas stop your from me all isuss maseges pleas stop On 1/13/13, Nurhusien Hasen nurhusien.hase...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/13/13, Nurhusien Hasen rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: Nurhusien Hasen added the comment: Pleas stop your from me all isuss maseges On 1/13/13, Nurhusien Hasen rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: Nurhusien Hasen added the comment: Pleas stop your from me all isuss masege On 1/13/13, Nurhusien Hasen nurhusien.hase...@gmail.com wrote: Pleas stop your from me all isuss masege On 1/13/13, Nick Coghlan rep...@bugs.python.org wrote: Nick Coghlan added the comment: The misleading docs Terry pointed out should also be fixed to note that imp is still used to expose some functionality where importlib really does need help from the underlying platform (such as loading dynamic modules). -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16880 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/nurhusien.hasen27%40gmail.com -- find signatures serves -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16880 ___ -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16880 ___ -- find signatures serves -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16880 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16922] ElementTree.findtext() returns empty bytes object instead of empty string
Eli Bendersky added the comment: Tests ported in 3.3 and 3.4 -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16922 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16762] test_subprocess failure on OpenBSD/NetBSD buildbots
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset 61d6b34af419 by Charles-François Natali in branch '2.7': Issue #16762: Fix some test_subprocess failures on NetBSD and OpenBSD: kill() http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/61d6b34af419 New changeset 58ce6ac61ada by Charles-François Natali in branch '3.2': Issue #16762: Fix some test_subprocess failures on NetBSD and OpenBSD: kill() http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/58ce6ac61ada New changeset a3f0414af55b by Charles-François Natali in branch '3.3': Issue #16762: Fix some test_subprocess failures on NetBSD and OpenBSD: kill() http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/a3f0414af55b New changeset 487ed428f0ba by Charles-François Natali in branch 'default': Issue #16762: Fix some test_subprocess failures on NetBSD and OpenBSD: kill() http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/487ed428f0ba -- nosy: +python-dev ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16762 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16762] test_subprocess failure on OpenBSD/NetBSD buildbots
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[issue16880] Importing imp will fail if dynamic loading not supported
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[issue16880] Importing imp will fail if dynamic loading not supported
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[issue16880] Importing imp will fail if dynamic loading not supported
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[issue16880] Importing imp will fail if dynamic loading not supported
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[issue16880] Importing imp will fail if dynamic loading not supported
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[issue16880] Importing imp will fail if dynamic loading not supported
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[issue16829] IDLE on POSIX can't print filenames with spaces
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset e651d96e6b07 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch '2.7': Issue #16829: IDLE printing no longer fails if there are spaces or other http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/e651d96e6b07 New changeset 20065626c0b5 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch '3.2': Issue #16829: IDLE printing no longer fails if there are spaces or other http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/20065626c0b5 New changeset 778bead39825 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch '3.3': Issue #16829: IDLE printing no longer fails if there are spaces or other http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/778bead39825 New changeset 529b5ced59e0 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch 'default': Issue #16829: IDLE printing no longer fails if there are spaces or other http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/529b5ced59e0 -- nosy: +python-dev ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16829 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16941] TkInter won't update display on OS X if delay is too small
Leon Maurer added the comment: Well, it looks like the problem is known and can't be fixed: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/tkinter-discuss/2013-January/003343.html Oh well. -- ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16941 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16829] IDLE on POSIX can't print filenames with spaces
Serhiy Storchaka added the comment: I have committed a very simple fix with shlex.quote (pipes.quote before 3.3). This is not fully backward compatible, it can break user configuration if the user had fixed this issue himself (and this fix is not perfect). But I think it's quite unlikely. Otherwise, we would get a bug report much earlier. An attempt to consider such hypothetical situation requires tedious code. Thank you for report, Rod. -- resolution: - fixed stage: - committed/rejected status: open - closed ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16829 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
[issue16259] Replace exec() in test.regrtest with __import__
Roundup Robot added the comment: New changeset e22c09f636d4 by R David Murray in branch 'default': #16259: delete some no-longer-used code from regrtest. http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/e22c09f636d4 -- nosy: +python-dev ___ Python tracker rep...@bugs.python.org http://bugs.python.org/issue16259 ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
