Using plotly and getting "This site can't be reached"

2021-01-16 Thread Chuck Untulis
The Chrome browser on the machine shows "127.0.0.1 refused to connect" for
various urls of the form 127.0.0.1:x where x are numbers like
64981, 65029,... About once in 20-40 attempts, the graphs appear.

I ran the same code on a different machine and it created the plots in the
Chrome browser every time. I ran a different Python plotly program on both
machines with similar results.

Everything else I navigate to in Chrome works as expected.

No errors are reported by the plotly code shown below. I also ran the code
in Visual Studio Code with the same results.

I would like to see the information sent to the browser but I have not
figured out how to do that yet.

Any help would be appreciated.

=
import pandas as pd

df = pd.DataFrame({
  "Fruit": ["Apples", "Oranges", "Bananas", "Apples", "Oranges", "Bananas"],
  "Contestant": ["Alex", "Alex", "Alex", "Jordan", "Jordan", "Jordan"],
  "Number Eaten": [2, 1, 3, 1, 3, 2],
})

import plotly.express as px

fig = px.bar(df, x="Fruit", y="Number Eaten", color="Contestant", barmode=
"group")

#print(""PLOT 1")
# fig.show()

import plotly.graph_objects as go

fig = go.Figure()
for contestant, group in df.groupby("Contestant"):
fig.add_trace(go.Bar(x=group["Fruit"], y=group["Number Eaten"], name
=contestant,
  hovertemplate="Contestant=%sFruit=%%{x}Number Eaten=%%{y}
"% contestant))
fig.update_layout(legend_title_text = "Contestant")
fig.update_xaxes(title_text="Fruit")
fig.update_yaxes(title_text="Number Eaten")
print("PLOT 2")
fig.show()
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Re: Sqlite3 help

2014-10-20 Thread Chuck
Thanks a bunch Sibylle!  That seems like a better approach.
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Sqlite3 help

2014-10-14 Thread Chuck
I am building a simple podcast program where I download all the data from a 
feed with feedparser and store the data in sqlite3.  I am spanking new to 
sqlite and database programming.  Should I create the database in the __init__ 
method of my class, or is that a bad idea.  I haven't done any designing that 
included databases.  

Thanks!
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Re: Most discussion on comp.lang.python is about developing with Python

2013-11-13 Thread Chuck Quast
On Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:35:56 AM UTC+7, bob gailer wrote:
> I joined a week or so ago.
> 
> 
> 
> The subject line was copied from the description of comp.lang.python aka 
> 
> python-list@python.org.
> 
> 
> 
> I am very disappointed to see so much energy and bandwidth going to 
> 
> conversations that bash individuals.
> 
> 
> 
> Is there a moderator for this list?
> 
> 
> 
> Is there some other place for discussions that are completely OT and 
> 
> also full of flames?
> 
> 
> 
> Or would you be willing to stop the bashing? I don't see that it helps 
> 
> anyone, and could be very offputting to other newbies.
> 
> 
> 
> I hope and pray that there will be a few simple answers. The last thing 
> 
> I want is to start another flame war.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for hearing me.
> 
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> -- 
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> 919-636-4239
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I just changed my profile to turn off email updates from this list. Too many 
posts were in response to the blatant troll postings. If I never get another 
comp.lang.python post in my mailbox it will be too soon.
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Stop feeding the Ferrous Cranus troll

2013-11-11 Thread Chuck Quast
http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/flame_62.php

why are any of you replying?
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Re: Generating Filenames from Feeds

2013-03-14 Thread Chuck

> Seriously, if you don't post a minimal code example that shows the problem 
> and with a full traceback you are asking strangers to do magic tricks for 
> your pleasure. 

I'm asking more for a better way of generating destination filenames, not so 
much debugging questions.  I only put my attempts there to show people that I 
was actually trying something, and not just relying on people to do my thinking 
for me.

I'm trying to take a feed such as this 

http://www.theskepticsguide.org/feed/rss.aspx?feed=SGU

and parse some useful data out of it for a destination filename.  The solution 
should be general, and not just for this particular feed.

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Generating Filenames from Feeds

2013-03-14 Thread Chuck
HI all,

I am trying to write a podcast catcher for fun, and I am trying to come up with 
a way to generate a destination filename to use in the function 
urlretrieve(url, destination).  I  would like the destination filename to end 
in a .mp3 extension.  

My first attempts were parsing out the  and stripping the whitespace 
characters, and joining with os.path.join.  I haven't been able to make that 
work for some reason.  Whenever I put the .mp3 in the os.path.join I get syntax 
errors.  I am wondering if there is a better way?

I was doing something like os.path.join('C:\\Users\\Me\\Music\\Podcasts\\', 
pubdate.mp3), where pubdate has been parsed and stripped of whitespace.  I keep 
getting an error around the .mp3.

Any ideas?

Thanks!!
Chuck  
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Re: Config & ConfigParser

2013-03-05 Thread Chuck
I guess my question was more what is a config.file & why/how do I use one.
Thanks
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Re: Config & ConfigParser

2013-03-05 Thread Chuck
Thanks Tim!  So much stuff I haven't thought of before.  Out of curiosity, 
what's the benefit of caching the download,  instead of downloading to the 
final destination?   So much stuff they never teach you school.So much 
theory & not enough practice.   :(
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Config & ConfigParser

2013-03-05 Thread Chuck
I'm curious about using configuration files.  Can someone tell me how they are 
used?   I'm writing a podcast catcher and would like to set up some default 
configurations, e.g. directory, etcOther than default directory, what are 
some of the things that are put in a configuration file?   They don't seem to 
teach you this kind of stuff in school.  :(

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Re: Keep getting this in PyDev "TypeError: quiz() takes exactly 1 argument (0 given)"

2012-08-10 Thread Chuck
Yeah, I am mostly a Java guy.  Just starting with Python.  :)
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Re: Keep getting this in PyDev "TypeError: quiz() takes exactly 1 argument (0 given)"

2012-08-10 Thread Chuck
Thanks for the help guys!  I finally got it working.  Shouldn't I technically 
call quiz() through the constructor, though?  Otherwise, the constructor is 
pointless.  I just put in pass for now.  (Also, I always thought that if 
__name__ == '__main__': went IN the class.  Why wouldn't it be apart of the 
class?  )

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Re: Keep getting this in PyDev "TypeError: quiz() takes exactly 1 argument (0 given)"

2012-08-10 Thread Chuck
On Friday, August 10, 2012 2:05:36 PM UTC-5, Pedro Kroger wrote:
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Chuck  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >if __name__ == '__main__':
> 
> > 
> 
> >quiz()
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> You need to instantiate your class:
> 
> 
> 
> foo = ElementsQuiz()
> 
> foo.quiz()
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Pedro
> 
> -
> 
> http://pedrokroger.net
> 
> http://musicforgeeksandnerds.com

That doesn't work either for some reason.  I keep getting "NameError: name 
'ElementsQuiz' is not defined"
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Keep getting this in PyDev "TypeError: quiz() takes exactly 1 argument (0 given)"

2012-08-10 Thread Chuck
Hi all, I cannot figure why I keep getting this error.  It is my understanding 
that all methods need a self argument when designing a class.  Here is my code:

import random

class ElementsQuiz:

elements = {'H' : 'Hydrogen',
'He' : 'Helium',
'Li' : 'Lithium',
'Be' : 'Beryllium',
'B' : 'Boron',
'C' : 'Carbon',
'N' : 'Nitrogen',
'O' : 'Oxygen',
'F' : 'Fluorine',
'Ne' : 'Neon',
'Na' : 'Sodium',
'Mg' : 'Magnesium',
'Al' : 'Aluminium',
'Si' : 'Silicon',
'P' : 'Phosphorus',
'S' : 'Sulfur',
'Cl' : 'Chlorine',
'Ar' : 'Argon',
'K' : 'Potassium',
'Ca' : 'Calcium',
'Sc' : 'Scandium',
'Ti' : 'Titanium',
'V' : 'Vanadium',
'Cr' : 'Chromium',
'Mn' : 'Manganese',
'Fe' : 'Iron',
'Co' : 'Cobalt',
'Ni' : 'Nickel',
'Cu' : 'Copper',
'Zn' : 'Zinc',
'Ga' : 'Gallium',
'Ge' : 'Germanium',
'As' : 'Arsenic',
'Se' : 'Selenium',
'Br' : 'Bromine',
'Kr' : 'Krypton',
'Rb' : 'Rubidium',
'Sr' : 'Strontium',
'Y' : 'Yttrium',
'Zr' : 'Zirconium',
'Nb' : 'Niobium',
'Mo' : 'Molybdenum',
'Tc' : 'Technetium',
'Ru' : 'Ruthenium',
'Rh' : 'Rhodium',
'Pd' : 'Palladium',
'Ag' : 'Silver',
'Cd' : 'Cadmium',
'In' : 'Indium',
'Sn' : 'Tin',
'Sb' : 'Antimony',
'Te' : 'Tellurium',
'I' : 'Iodine',
'Xe' : 'Xenon',
'Cs' : 'Caesium',
'Ba' : 'Barium',
'La' : 'Lanthanum',
'Ce' : 'Cerium',
'Pr' : 'Praseodymium',
'Nd' : 'Neodymium',
'Pm' : 'Promethium',
'Sm' : 'Samarium',
'Eu' : 'Europium',
'Gd' : 'Gadolinium',
'Tb' : 'Terbium',
'Dy' : 'Dysprosium',
'Ho' : 'Holmium',
'Er' : 'Erbium',
'Tm' : 'Thulium',
'Yb' : 'Ytterbium',
'Lu' : 'Lutetium',
'Hf' : 'Hafnium',
'Ta' : 'Tantalum',
'W' : 'Tungsten',
'Re' : 'Rhenium',
'Os' : 'Osmium',
'Ir' : 'Iridium',
'Pt' : 'Platinum',
'Au' : 'Gold',
'Hg' : 'Mercury',
'Tl' : 'Thallium',
'Pb' : 'Lead',
'Bi' : 'Bismuth',
'Po' : 'Polonium',
'At' : 'Astatine',
'Rn' : 'Radon',
'Fr' : 'Francium',
'Ra' : 'Radium',
'Ac' : 'Actinium',
'Th' : 'Thorium',
'Pa' : 'Protactinium',
'U' : 'Uranium',
'Np' : 'Neptunium',
'Pu' : 'Plutonium',
'Am' : 'Americium',
'Cm' : 'Curium',
'Bk' : 'Berkelium',
'Cf' : 'Californium',
'Es' : 'Einsteinium',
'Fm' : 'Fermium',
'Md' : 'Mendelevium',
'No' : 'Nobelium',
'Lr' : 'Lawrencium',
'Rf' : 'Rutherfordium',
'Db' : 'Dubnium',
'Sg' : 'Seaborgium',
'Bh' : 'Bohrium',
'Hs' : 'Hassium',
'Mt' : 'Meitnerium',
'Ds' : 'Darmstadtium',
'Rg' : 'Roentgenium',
'Cn' : 'Copernicium',
'Uut' : 'Ununtrium',
'Fl' : 'Flerovium',
'Uup' : 'Ununpentium',
'Lv' : 'Livermorium',
'Uus' : 'Ununseptium',
'Uuo' : 'Ununoctium'
}
   
def __init__(self):
self.quiz()

def quiz(self):
self.reply = ('Moron', 'Dummy', 'Idiot', 'Embecile', 'Half-wit')
self.numCorrect = 0
self.question = random.choice(self.elements.keys())
print self.question
self.ans = raw_input('Answer: ')

if self.ans == self.elements(self.question):
self.numCorrect += 1
else:
self.insult = random.choice(self.reply)
print 'Incorrect %s' % self.insult



if __name__ == '__main__':

quiz()



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Re: installing modules in Enthought Python

2012-05-30 Thread Chuck
On May 30, 10:57 am, David Fanning  wrote:
> Chuck writes:
>
> > I just downloaded Enthought Python, free version.  I wanted all the
> > included packages, but I can't seem to find the correct directory to
> > install new Python modules.  Does anybody have an idea?  I am trying
> > to add Universal Feed Parser to Enthought.  I have tried C:\Python27,
> > C:\Python27\Lib, C:\Python27\Lib\site-packages, but no success.
>
> I spent most of the day on this problem yesterday. You are
> going to want to get *.exe files that will install in the
> usual way on Windows. I found the packages I was looking
> for at one or the other of these sites:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/pythonxy/wiki/AdditionalPlugins#Installation_no
> tes
>
> http://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#lxml
>
> Cheers
>
> David
>
> --
> David Fanning, Ph.D.
> Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
> Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")

Unfortunately, I couldn't find Universal Feed Parser, the package I
was looking for, but thanks for the tip.
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installing modules in Enthought Python

2012-05-30 Thread Chuck
I just downloaded Enthought Python, free version.  I wanted all the
included packages, but I can't seem to find the correct directory to
install new Python modules.  Does anybody have an idea?  I am trying
to add Universal Feed Parser to Enthought.  I have tried C:\Python27,
C:\Python27\Lib, C:\Python27\Lib\site-packages, but no success.

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ControlDesk, Python, ActiveX, TableEditor

2012-04-27 Thread Chuck
I am trying to hook into the TableEditor on Controldesk using Python.

Unfortunately there are no good examples of how to write the code
anywhere I have looked.

Does anyone know where to look? OR does anyone have code?

Thanks
Chuck
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Re: unable to compile Python 2.6.4 on AIX using gcc

2009-11-04 Thread chuck

Thanks Mark. That was indeed very helpful.  Here's the current status:

===
1. applied changes suggested by Bob Atkins in that thread.

2. setting env variables.

export OBJECT_MODE=64
export CC="gcc"
export CFLAGS="-maix64 -mcpu=power5"
export LDFLAGS="-maix64 -L/usr/lib64 -L/opt/freeware/lib64 
-L/opt/freeware/64/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/opt/freeware/lib"

export CPPFLAGS="-I/opt/freeware/include -I/usr/lpp/X11/include/X11"

3. configuring and compiling using

configure --with-gcc --enable-shared --prefix=/usr/local/Python-2.6.4 > 
config_264.log 2>&1 ; make > make_264.log 2>&1

===

Both python (executable) and libpython2.6.a build just fine and are in 
the same directory as configure.


However, none of the extensions build. I keep getting libpython2.6 not 
found error.  Here's an example:


building 'math' extension
gcc -pthread -fno-strict-aliasing -maix64 -mcpu=power5 -DNDEBUG -O3 
-Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -I. 
-I/usr/local/build/python/Python-2.6.4/./Include -I. -
IInclude -I./Include -I/opt/freeware/include -I/usr/lpp/X11/include/X11 
-I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/build/python/Python-2.6.4/Include 
-I/usr/local
/build/python/Python-2.6.4 -c 
/usr/local/build/python/Python-2.6.4/Modules/mathmodule.c -o 
build/temp.aix-5.3-2.6/usr/local/build/python/Python-2.6.4/Mo

dules/mathmodule.o
./Modules/ld_so_aix gcc -pthread -bI:Modules/python.exp -maix64 
-L/usr/lib64 -L/opt/freeware/lib64 -L/opt/freeware/64/lib 
-L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/opt/freewa
re/lib -fno-strict-aliasing -maix64 -mcpu=power5 -DNDEBUG -O3 -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -I. -IInclude -I./Include -I/opt/freeware/include 
-I/usr/lpp/X11
/include/X11 
build/temp.aix-5.3-2.6/usr/local/build/python/Python-2.6.4/Modules/mathmodule.o 
-L/usr/lib64 -L/opt/freeware/lib64 -L/opt/freeware/64/lib -
L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/opt/freeware/lib -L/usr/local/lib -lm -lpython2.6 -o 
build/lib.aix-5.3-2.6/math.so

collect2: library libpython2.6 not found

I hacked Makefile to
LDFLAGS=<> -L./ 

I now get:

ld: 0711-224 WARNING: Duplicate symbol: PyObject_Size
ld: 0711-345 Use the -bloadmap or -bnoquiet option to obtain more 
information.

Fatal Python error: Interpreter not initialized (version mismatch?)
make: The signal code from the last command is 6.


There are no other versions of python on that machine. I would 
appreciate any help.  Do I need to set the exec_prefix as well?



Thanks.


Mark Dickinson wrote:

On Nov 3, 10:40 pm, chuck  wrote:

Hello -- I am trying to compile Python 2.6.4 on a Power 5 PC with AIX
5.3.  Here are the settings:

Take a look at:

http://bugs.python.org/issue1628484

Mark

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unable to compile Python 2.6.4 on AIX using gcc

2009-11-03 Thread chuck
Hello -- I am trying to compile Python 2.6.4 on a Power 5 PC with AIX 
5.3.  Here are the settings:


export OBJECT_MODE=64
export AR="ar -X64"
export MAKE=/usr/bin/gmake
export CC="gcc"
export CFLAGS="-maix64 -O2 -g -mcpu=power5"
export LDFLAGS="-L/usr/lib64 -L/opt/freeware/lib64 
-L/opt/freeware/64/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/opt/freeware/lib"

export CPPFLAGS="-I/opt/freeware/include -I/usr/lpp/X11/include/X11"
../Python-2.6.4/configure --with-gcc --disable-ipv6 
--prefix=/usr/local/Python-2.6.4 > config_264.log 2>&1

make > make_264.log 2>&1

make fails very early with the following error

===

gcc -pthread -c -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -O3 -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes  -I. -IInclude -I../Python-2.6.4/Includ
e -I/opt/freeware/include -I/usr/lpp/X11/include/X11  -DPy_BUILD_CORE -o 
Modules/python.o ../Python-2.6.4/Modules/python.c

In file included from ../Python-2.6.4/Include/Python.h:58,
 from ../Python-2.6.4/Modules/python.c:3:
../Python-2.6.4/Include/pyport.h:685:2: error: #error "LONG_BIT 
definition appears wrong for platform (bad gcc/glibc config

?)."
make: The error code from the last command is 1.
===

I would appreciate any help. Thanks.

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Re: Podcast catcher in Python

2009-09-19 Thread Chuck
Never mind, guys  I finally got things working.  Woo hoo
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Re: Podcast catcher in Python

2009-09-19 Thread Chuck
On Sep 19, 7:40 am, Dave Angel  wrote:
> Chuck wrote:
> > On Sep 12, 3:37 pm, Chuck  wrote:
>
> >> On Sep 11, 9:54 pm, Chris Rebert  wrote:
>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Chuck  wrote:
>
> >>>> Does anyone know how I should read/download the mp3 file, and how I
> >>>> should write/save it so that I can play it on a media player such as
> >>>> Windoze media player?  Excuse my ignorance, but I am a complete noob
> >>>> at this.  I downloaded the mp3, and I got a ton of hex, I think, but
> >>>> it could've been unicode.
>
> >>> urllib.urlretrieve():http://docs.python.org/library/urllib.html#urllib.urlretrieve
>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Chris
>
> >> Thanks Chris!  I will play around with this.
>
> > I am using Python 3.1, but I can't figure out why I can't use
> > xml.dom.minidom.  Here is my code:
>
> > from xml.dom.minidom import parse, parseString
> > url =http://minnesota.publicradio.org/tools/podcasts/
> > grammar_grater.xml'  #just for test purposes
>
> > doc =arse(url)  #I have also tried parseString(url), not to mention
> > a million other methods from xml.Etree, xml.sax etc...  all to no
> > avail
>
> > What the heck am I doing wrong?  How can I get this xml file and use
> > the toprettyxml() method.  Or something, so I can parse it.  I don't
> > have any books and the documentation for Python kind of sucks.  I am a
> > complete noob to Python and internet programming.  (I'm sure that is
> > obvious :) )
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > Charlie
>
> Wrong?  You didn't specify your OS environment, you didn't show the
> error message (and traceback), you posted an apparently unrelated
> question in the same thread (there's no XML inside a mp3 file).
>
> xml.dom.minidom.parse() takes a filename or a 'file' object as its first
> argument.  You gave it a URL, so it complained.  You can fix that either
> by using urllib.urlopen() or by separately copying the data to a local
> file and using its filename here.
>
> In general, I'd recommend against testing new code live against the
> internet, since errors can occur from the vagaries of the internet as
> well as from bugs in your code.  Sometimes it's hard to tell the
> difference when the symptoms change each time you run.
>
> So I'd download the xml data that you want to test with to a local file,
> and test out your parsing logic against that copy.  In fact, first
> testing will probably be against a simplified version of that copy.
>
> How do you download the file?  Well, if you're using Firefox, you can
> browse to that page, and do View->Source.  Then copy/paste that text
> into a text editor, and save it locally.  Something similar probably
> works in other browsers, maybe even IE.
>
> Or you can use urlretrieve, as suggested earlier in this thread.  But
> I'd make that a separate script, so that you can separate the bugs in
> downloading from the bugs in parsing.  After everything mostly works,
> you can think about combining them.
>
> DaveA

Okay, I have tried to use urllib.request.urlretrieve() to download an
mp3, but my cursor just sits and blinks at me.  This a small file, so
it should take more that a few minutes.  Hmmm?

Here is my code:

url = 'http://download.publicradio.org/podcast/minnesota/news/programs/
2009/09/10/grammar_20090910_64.mp3'
file = 'C:\\Documents and Settings\\Compaq_Owner\\Desktop\
\GramGrate.mp3'

import urllib.request
b4 = urllib.request.urlretrieve(url, file)

at this point, the cursor just sits and blinks forever.

Any ideas?  I really appreciate this guys.


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Re: Podcast catcher in Python

2009-09-19 Thread Chuck
On Sep 19, 7:40 am, Dave Angel  wrote:
> Chuck wrote:
> > On Sep 12, 3:37 pm, Chuck  wrote:
>
> >> On Sep 11, 9:54 pm, Chris Rebert  wrote:
>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Chuck  wrote:
>
> >>>> Does anyone know how I should read/download the mp3 file, and how I
> >>>> should write/save it so that I can play it on a media player such as
> >>>> Windoze media player?  Excuse my ignorance, but I am a complete noob
> >>>> at this.  I downloaded the mp3, and I got a ton of hex, I think, but
> >>>> it could've been unicode.
>
> >>> urllib.urlretrieve():http://docs.python.org/library/urllib.html#urllib.urlretrieve
>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Chris
>
> >> Thanks Chris!  I will play around with this.
>
> > I am using Python 3.1, but I can't figure out why I can't use
> > xml.dom.minidom.  Here is my code:
>
> > from xml.dom.minidom import parse, parseString
> > url =http://minnesota.publicradio.org/tools/podcasts/
> > grammar_grater.xml'  #just for test purposes
>
> > doc =arse(url)  #I have also tried parseString(url), not to mention
> > a million other methods from xml.Etree, xml.sax etc...  all to no
> > avail
>
> > What the heck am I doing wrong?  How can I get this xml file and use
> > the toprettyxml() method.  Or something, so I can parse it.  I don't
> > have any books and the documentation for Python kind of sucks.  I am a
> > complete noob to Python and internet programming.  (I'm sure that is
> > obvious :) )
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > Charlie
>
> Wrong?  You didn't specify your OS environment, you didn't show the
> error message (and traceback), you posted an apparently unrelated
> question in the same thread (there's no XML inside a mp3 file).
>
> xml.dom.minidom.parse() takes a filename or a 'file' object as its first
> argument.  You gave it a URL, so it complained.  You can fix that either
> by using urllib.urlopen() or by separately copying the data to a local
> file and using its filename here.
>
> In general, I'd recommend against testing new code live against the
> internet, since errors can occur from the vagaries of the internet as
> well as from bugs in your code.  Sometimes it's hard to tell the
> difference when the symptoms change each time you run.
>
> So I'd download the xml data that you want to test with to a local file,
> and test out your parsing logic against that copy.  In fact, first
> testing will probably be against a simplified version of that copy.
>
> How do you download the file?  Well, if you're using Firefox, you can
> browse to that page, and do View->Source.  Then copy/paste that text
> into a text editor, and save it locally.  Something similar probably
> works in other browsers, maybe even IE.
>
> Or you can use urlretrieve, as suggested earlier in this thread.  But
> I'd make that a separate script, so that you can separate the bugs in
> downloading from the bugs in parsing.  After everything mostly works,
> you can think about combining them.
>
> DaveA

Oh yeah!  I am using Windows XP.
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Re: Podcast catcher in Python

2009-09-19 Thread Chuck
On Sep 19, 7:40 am, Dave Angel  wrote:
> Chuck wrote:
> > On Sep 12, 3:37 pm, Chuck  wrote:
>
> >> On Sep 11, 9:54 pm, Chris Rebert  wrote:
>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Chuck  wrote:
>
> >>>> Does anyone know how I should read/download the mp3 file, and how I
> >>>> should write/save it so that I can play it on a media player such as
> >>>> Windoze media player?  Excuse my ignorance, but I am a complete noob
> >>>> at this.  I downloaded the mp3, and I got a ton of hex, I think, but
> >>>> it could've been unicode.
>
> >>> urllib.urlretrieve():http://docs.python.org/library/urllib.html#urllib.urlretrieve
>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Chris
>
> >> Thanks Chris!  I will play around with this.
>
> > I am using Python 3.1, but I can't figure out why I can't use
> > xml.dom.minidom.  Here is my code:
>
> > from xml.dom.minidom import parse, parseString
> > url =http://minnesota.publicradio.org/tools/podcasts/
> > grammar_grater.xml'  #just for test purposes
>
> > doc =arse(url)  #I have also tried parseString(url), not to mention
> > a million other methods from xml.Etree, xml.sax etc...  all to no
> > avail
>
> > What the heck am I doing wrong?  How can I get this xml file and use
> > the toprettyxml() method.  Or something, so I can parse it.  I don't
> > have any books and the documentation for Python kind of sucks.  I am a
> > complete noob to Python and internet programming.  (I'm sure that is
> > obvious :) )
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > Charlie
>
> Wrong?  You didn't specify your OS environment, you didn't show the
> error message (and traceback), you posted an apparently unrelated
> question in the same thread (there's no XML inside a mp3 file).
>
> xml.dom.minidom.parse() takes a filename or a 'file' object as its first
> argument.  You gave it a URL, so it complained.  You can fix that either
> by using urllib.urlopen() or by separately copying the data to a local
> file and using its filename here.
>
> In general, I'd recommend against testing new code live against the
> internet, since errors can occur from the vagaries of the internet as
> well as from bugs in your code.  Sometimes it's hard to tell the
> difference when the symptoms change each time you run.
>
> So I'd download the xml data that you want to test with to a local file,
> and test out your parsing logic against that copy.  In fact, first
> testing will probably be against a simplified version of that copy.
>
> How do you download the file?  Well, if you're using Firefox, you can
> browse to that page, and do View->Source.  Then copy/paste that text
> into a text editor, and save it locally.  Something similar probably
> works in other browsers, maybe even IE.
>
> Or you can use urlretrieve, as suggested earlier in this thread.  But
> I'd make that a separate script, so that you can separate the bugs in
> downloading from the bugs in parsing.  After everything mostly works,
> you can think about combining them.
>
> DaveA

Okay, that makes sense.  I will try that.  Essentially, what I am
trying to learn by just reading articles on the web is how to access
info on the web using Python, i.e. weather data, podcasts, etc...  I
have never done it before in any language.  So, I am trying to do
something that I've never done before with a language I barely know.
Can be very frustrating.  :(

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Re: Podcast catcher in Python

2009-09-18 Thread Chuck
On Sep 12, 3:37 pm, Chuck  wrote:
> On Sep 11, 9:54 pm, Chris Rebert  wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Chuck  wrote:
> > > Does anyone know how I should read/download the mp3 file, and how I
> > > should write/save it so that I can play it on a media player such as
> > > Windoze media player?  Excuse my ignorance, but I am a complete noob
> > > at this.  I downloaded the mp3, and I got a ton of hex, I think, but
> > > it could've been unicode.
>
> > urllib.urlretrieve():http://docs.python.org/library/urllib.html#urllib.urlretrieve
>
> > Cheers,
> > Chris
>
> Thanks Chris!  I will play around with this.

I am using Python 3.1, but I can't figure out why I can't use
xml.dom.minidom.  Here is my code:

from xml.dom.minidom import parse, parseString
url = 'http://minnesota.publicradio.org/tools/podcasts/
grammar_grater.xml'  #just for test purposes

doc = parse(url)  #I have also tried parseString(url), not to mention
a million other methods from xml.Etree, xml.sax etc...  all to no
avail


What the heck am I doing wrong?  How can I get this xml file and use
the toprettyxml() method.  Or something, so I can parse it.  I don't
have any books and the documentation for Python kind of sucks.  I am a
complete noob to Python and internet programming.  (I'm sure that is
obvious :) )

Thanks!

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Re: Podcast catcher in Python

2009-09-12 Thread Chuck
On Sep 11, 9:54 pm, Chris Rebert  wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Chuck  wrote:
> > Does anyone know how I should read/download the mp3 file, and how I
> > should write/save it so that I can play it on a media player such as
> > Windoze media player?  Excuse my ignorance, but I am a complete noob
> > at this.  I downloaded the mp3, and I got a ton of hex, I think, but
> > it could've been unicode.
>
> urllib.urlretrieve():http://docs.python.org/library/urllib.html#urllib.urlretrieve
>
> Cheers,
> Chris

Thanks Chris!  I will play around with this.
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Re: Podcast catcher in Python

2009-09-11 Thread Chuck
On Sep 11, 9:07 pm, Chuck  wrote:
> On Sep 11, 8:32 pm, Chris Rebert  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Chuck  wrote:
> > > On Sep 11, 12:56 pm, Chuck  wrote:
> > >> On Sep 11, 10:30 am, Falcolas  wrote:
> > >> > On Sep 11, 8:20 am, Chuck  wrote:
>
> > >> > > Hi all,
>
> > >> > > I would like to code a simple podcast catcher in Python merely as an
> > >> > > exercise in internet programming.  I am a CS student and new to
> > >> > > Python, but understand Java fairly well.  I understand how to connect
> > >> > > to a server with urlopen, but then I don't understand how to download
> > >> > > the mp3, or whatever, podcast?  Do I need to somehow parse the XML
> > >> > > document?  I really don't know.  Any ideas?
>
> > >> > > Thanks!
>
> > >> > > Chuck
>
> > >> > You will first have to download the RSS XML file, then parse that file
> > >> > for the URL for the audio file itself. Something like eTree will help
> > >> > immensely in this part. You'll also have to keep track of what you've
> > >> > already downloaded.
>
> > >> > I'd recommend taking a look at the RSS XML yourself, so you know what
> > >> > it is you have to parse out, and where to find it. From there, it
> > >> > should be fairly easy to come up with the proper query to pull it
> > >> > automatically out of the XML.
>
> > >> > As a kindness to the provider, I would recommend a fairly lengthy
> > >> > sleep between GETs, particularly if you want to scrape their back
> > >> > catalog.
>
> > >> > Unfortunately, I no longer have the script I created to do just such a
> > >> > thing in the past, but the process is rather straightforward, once you
> > >> > know where to look.
>
> > > I am not sure how eTree fits in.  Is that eTree.org?
>
> > No, he's referring to the `xml.etree.elementtree` standard 
> > module:http://docs.python.org/library/xml.etree.elementtree.html#module-xml
>
> > Although since you're dealing with feeds, you might be able to use
> > Universal Feed Parser, which is specifically for 
> > RSS/Atom:http://www.feedparser.org/
>
> > Cheers,
> > Chris
> > --http://blog.rebertia.com
>
> Brilliant!  I will give that a try.
> Cheers!

Does anyone know how I should read/download the mp3 file, and how I
should write/save it so that I can play it on a media player such as
Windoze media player?  Excuse my ignorance, but I am a complete noob
at this.  I downloaded the mp3, and I got a ton of hex, I think, but
it could've been unicode.
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Re: Podcast catcher in Python

2009-09-11 Thread Chuck
On Sep 11, 8:32 pm, Chris Rebert  wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Chuck  wrote:
> > On Sep 11, 12:56 pm, Chuck  wrote:
> >> On Sep 11, 10:30 am, Falcolas  wrote:
> >> > On Sep 11, 8:20 am, Chuck  wrote:
>
> >> > > Hi all,
>
> >> > > I would like to code a simple podcast catcher in Python merely as an
> >> > > exercise in internet programming.  I am a CS student and new to
> >> > > Python, but understand Java fairly well.  I understand how to connect
> >> > > to a server with urlopen, but then I don't understand how to download
> >> > > the mp3, or whatever, podcast?  Do I need to somehow parse the XML
> >> > > document?  I really don't know.  Any ideas?
>
> >> > > Thanks!
>
> >> > > Chuck
>
> >> > You will first have to download the RSS XML file, then parse that file
> >> > for the URL for the audio file itself. Something like eTree will help
> >> > immensely in this part. You'll also have to keep track of what you've
> >> > already downloaded.
>
> >> > I'd recommend taking a look at the RSS XML yourself, so you know what
> >> > it is you have to parse out, and where to find it. From there, it
> >> > should be fairly easy to come up with the proper query to pull it
> >> > automatically out of the XML.
>
> >> > As a kindness to the provider, I would recommend a fairly lengthy
> >> > sleep between GETs, particularly if you want to scrape their back
> >> > catalog.
>
> >> > Unfortunately, I no longer have the script I created to do just such a
> >> > thing in the past, but the process is rather straightforward, once you
> >> > know where to look.
>
> > I am not sure how eTree fits in.  Is that eTree.org?
>
> No, he's referring to the `xml.etree.elementtree` standard 
> module:http://docs.python.org/library/xml.etree.elementtree.html#module-xml
>
> Although since you're dealing with feeds, you might be able to use
> Universal Feed Parser, which is specifically for 
> RSS/Atom:http://www.feedparser.org/
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
> --http://blog.rebertia.com

Brilliant!  I will give that a try.
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Re: Podcast catcher in Python

2009-09-11 Thread Chuck
On Sep 11, 1:09 pm, Chuck  wrote:
> On Sep 11, 12:56 pm, Chuck  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 11, 10:30 am, Falcolas  wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 11, 8:20 am, Chuck  wrote:
>
> > > > Hi all,
>
> > > > I would like to code a simple podcast catcher in Python merely as an
> > > > exercise in internet programming.  I am a CS student and new to
> > > > Python, but understand Java fairly well.  I understand how to connect
> > > > to a server with urlopen, but then I don't understand how to download
> > > > the mp3, or whatever, podcast?  Do I need to somehow parse the XML
> > > > document?  I really don't know.  Any ideas?
>
> > > > Thanks!
>
> > > > Chuck
>
> > > You will first have to download the RSS XML file, then parse that file
> > > for the URL for the audio file itself. Something like eTree will help
> > > immensely in this part. You'll also have to keep track of what you've
> > > already downloaded.
>
> > > I'd recommend taking a look at the RSS XML yourself, so you know what
> > > it is you have to parse out, and where to find it. From there, it
> > > should be fairly easy to come up with the proper query to pull it
> > > automatically out of the XML.
>
> > > As a kindness to the provider, I would recommend a fairly lengthy
> > > sleep between GETs, particularly if you want to scrape their back
> > > catalog.
>
> > > Unfortunately, I no longer have the script I created to do just such a
> > > thing in the past, but the process is rather straightforward, once you
> > > know where to look.
>
> > > ~G
>
> > Thanks!  I will see what I can do.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I am not sure how eTree fits in.  Is that eTree.org?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Can I just use x.read() to download the mp3 file and use x.write() to
write it to a file?  Or, do I have to worry about encoding/decoding
etc...?  I am under the impression that I can just read the mp3 and
write to a file, then play it in a media player.  Is this too
simplified?
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Re: Podcast catcher in Python

2009-09-11 Thread Chuck
On Sep 11, 12:56 pm, Chuck  wrote:
> On Sep 11, 10:30 am, Falcolas  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 11, 8:20 am, Chuck  wrote:
>
> > > Hi all,
>
> > > I would like to code a simple podcast catcher in Python merely as an
> > > exercise in internet programming.  I am a CS student and new to
> > > Python, but understand Java fairly well.  I understand how to connect
> > > to a server with urlopen, but then I don't understand how to download
> > > the mp3, or whatever, podcast?  Do I need to somehow parse the XML
> > > document?  I really don't know.  Any ideas?
>
> > > Thanks!
>
> > > Chuck
>
> > You will first have to download the RSS XML file, then parse that file
> > for the URL for the audio file itself. Something like eTree will help
> > immensely in this part. You'll also have to keep track of what you've
> > already downloaded.
>
> > I'd recommend taking a look at the RSS XML yourself, so you know what
> > it is you have to parse out, and where to find it. From there, it
> > should be fairly easy to come up with the proper query to pull it
> > automatically out of the XML.
>
> > As a kindness to the provider, I would recommend a fairly lengthy
> > sleep between GETs, particularly if you want to scrape their back
> > catalog.
>
> > Unfortunately, I no longer have the script I created to do just such a
> > thing in the past, but the process is rather straightforward, once you
> > know where to look.
>
> > ~G
>
> Thanks!  I will see what I can do.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I am not sure how eTree fits in.  Is that eTree.org?
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Re: Podcast catcher in Python

2009-09-11 Thread Chuck
On Sep 11, 10:30 am, Falcolas  wrote:
> On Sep 11, 8:20 am, Chuck  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > I would like to code a simple podcast catcher in Python merely as an
> > exercise in internet programming.  I am a CS student and new to
> > Python, but understand Java fairly well.  I understand how to connect
> > to a server with urlopen, but then I don't understand how to download
> > the mp3, or whatever, podcast?  Do I need to somehow parse the XML
> > document?  I really don't know.  Any ideas?
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > Chuck
>
> You will first have to download the RSS XML file, then parse that file
> for the URL for the audio file itself. Something like eTree will help
> immensely in this part. You'll also have to keep track of what you've
> already downloaded.
>
> I'd recommend taking a look at the RSS XML yourself, so you know what
> it is you have to parse out, and where to find it. From there, it
> should be fairly easy to come up with the proper query to pull it
> automatically out of the XML.
>
> As a kindness to the provider, I would recommend a fairly lengthy
> sleep between GETs, particularly if you want to scrape their back
> catalog.
>
> Unfortunately, I no longer have the script I created to do just such a
> thing in the past, but the process is rather straightforward, once you
> know where to look.
>
> ~G

Thanks!  I will see what I can do.
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Re: Podcast catcher in Python

2009-09-11 Thread Chuck
Also, if anyone could recommend some books that cover this type of
programming, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks!
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Podcast catcher in Python

2009-09-11 Thread Chuck
Hi all,

I would like to code a simple podcast catcher in Python merely as an
exercise in internet programming.  I am a CS student and new to
Python, but understand Java fairly well.  I understand how to connect
to a server with urlopen, but then I don't understand how to download
the mp3, or whatever, podcast?  Do I need to somehow parse the XML
document?  I really don't know.  Any ideas?

Thanks!

Chuck
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Re: Reading then sending new parts of a log file

2009-06-24 Thread Chuck Connors
On Jun 24, 2:48 pm, unayok  wrote:
> Here's a little nudge:http://code.activestate.com/recipes/157035/
>
> In place of its "print" line, you'd make your call into your existing
> code to send the message.

Wow!  Thanks for the _shove_ in the right direction.  Looks perfect.
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Re: Reading then sending new parts of a log file

2009-06-24 Thread Chuck Connors
On Jun 24, 11:57 am, Scott David Daniels 
wrote:
> What OS and version, what Python and version.

Win XP, Python 2.6.2
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Reading then sending new parts of a log file

2009-06-24 Thread Chuck Connors
Hey guys.  I'm trying to work up a little program that will send any
new lines written to a file (log file from my home automation
software) to me via instant message.  I've gotten the instant message
sending part figured out using xmpppy.

I've done a few things with Python in the past but I am in no means
more than a beginner/hacker.  Can someone tell me what commands/
modules/etc exist for monitoring and parsing a file for new
information that I can then send to my IM sending function?  I am not
asking for anyone to write the code but merely a push in the right
direction.

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Re: What does self.grid() do?

2009-03-10 Thread chuck
On Mar 5, 3:03 am, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch  wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:04:50 -0800, chuck wrote:
> > On Mar 3, 10:40 pm, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch  wrote:
> >> On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:06:56 -0800, chuck wrote:
> >> > I am learning python right now.  In the lesson on tkinter I see this
> >> > piece of code
>
> >> > from Tkinter import *
>
> >> > class MyFrame(Frame):
> >> >    def __init__(self):
> >> >        Frame.__init__(self)
> >> >        self.grid()
>
> >> > My question is what does "self.grid()" do?  I understand that the
> >> > grid method registers widgets with the geometry manager and adds them
> >> > to the frame
>
> >> Not "the frame" but the container widget that is the parent of the
> >> widget on which you call `grid()`.  In this case that would be a (maybe
> >> implicitly created) `Tkinter.Tk` instance, because there is no explicit
> >> parent widget set here.  Which IMHO is not a good idea.
>
> >> And widgets that layout themselves in the `__init__()` are a code smell
> >> too.  No standard widget does this, and it takes away the flexibility
> >> of the code using that widget to decide how and where it should be
> >> placed.
>
> > I think I understand what you're saying! How would you recommend I go
> > about this?  How do I create an explicit parent?
>
> You create it and pass it as argument to child widgets.
>
> import Tkinter as tk
>
> class MyFrame(tk.Frame):
>     def __init__(self, parent):
>         tk.Frame.__init__(self, parent)
>
> > What exactly is meant by "widgets that layout themselves"- what is the
> > right way to do this?
>
> Call one of the three layout methods on the widget instance after you
> created it, and not in the `__init__()` of the widget.
>
> Your example above "grids" itself at its parent widget, I think at the
> next free cell on a grid if you don't give the position as argument.  
> There is no chance to use another layout manager or to place it in
> another cell.
>
> Ciao,
>         Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

Wow- lots of good answers and directions- let me go off and digest
this.
Thanks Marc and "r".
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Re: What does self.grid() do?

2009-03-04 Thread chuck
On Mar 3, 10:40 pm, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch  wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:06:56 -0800, chuck wrote:
> > I am learning python right now.  In the lesson on tkinter I see this
> > piece of code
>
> > from Tkinter import *
>
> > class MyFrame(Frame):
> >    def __init__(self):
> >        Frame.__init__(self)
> >        self.grid()
>
> > My question is what does "self.grid()" do?  I understand that the grid
> > method registers widgets with the geometry manager and adds them to the
> > frame
>
> Not "the frame" but the container widget that is the parent of the widget
> on which you call `grid()`.  In this case that would be a (maybe
> implicitly created) `Tkinter.Tk` instance, because there is no explicit
> parent widget set here.  Which IMHO is not a good idea.
>
> And widgets that layout themselves in the `__init__()` are a code smell
> too.  No standard widget does this, and it takes away the flexibility of
> the code using that widget to decide how and where it should be placed.
>
> Ciao,
>         Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

I think I understand what you're saying!
How would you recommend I go about this?  How do I create an explicit
parent?

What exactly is meant by "widgets that layout themselves"- what is the
right way to do this?

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What does self.grid() do?

2009-03-03 Thread chuck
I am learning python right now.  In the lesson on tkinter I see this
piece of code

from Tkinter import *

class MyFrame(Frame):
   def __init__(self):
   Frame.__init__(self)
   self.grid()

My question is what does "self.grid()" do?  I understand that the grid
method registers widgets with the geometry manager and adds them to
the frame

But in this case am I adding the frame to the frame?  Not able to
understand the response from my class discussion board, hence posting
here.

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Re: Need help converting text to csv format

2008-11-22 Thread Chuck Connors
Firstly, I would like to thank those that offered help.  I was able to
get my data into the database and also have connectivity with the
mysql and can pull the data in/out at will.  Hooray and thanks again.

Secondly,  perhaps I overstated my abilities.  I have written a couple
of websites from scratch that pull data in/out of databases and have
formatted their outputs for user consumption.  I am by no means a php
expert and have never had occasion to use regular expressions for the
type of data I've been manipulating.  My sarcastic reply was only in
response to the 'go google it' answer I received to what I thought was
a fair question.  It's usually easiest to google something if you know
what you are looking for.  At no point did I expect anyone to spend a
great deal of time working out my specific problem but I am most
grateful for those who did provide more than what could have been
expected.

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Re: Need help converting text to csv format

2008-11-21 Thread Chuck Connors
Wow!  What a change in direction from the previous post.  Thank you
both for the help and the explanations.  This will work great!
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Re: Need help converting text to csv format

2008-11-21 Thread Chuck Connors

> I'm wondering if PHP experience precludes the ability to use a search
> engine before asking for help...

Thanks for the push in the right direction, friend.

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Need help converting text to csv format

2008-11-21 Thread Chuck Connors
Hey guys.  I'm working on a little program to help my wife catalog her/
our coupons.  I found a good resource but need help formatting the
text data so that I can import it into a mysql database. Here's the
data format:

40922003 Life Fitness Products $1 (12-13-08) (CVS)
546500181141 Oust Air Sanitizer, any B1G1F up to $3.49 (1-17-09) .35
each
518000159258 Pillsbury Crescent Dinner Rolls, any .25 (2-14-09)
518000550406 Pillsbury Frozen Grands Biscuits, Cinnamon Rolls, Mini
Cinnamon Rolls, etc. .40 (2-14-09)

The first value (large number) is the UPC, the next element is the
coupon description, followed by a date in parenthesis.  Those are the
only three elements I am concerned with.  Can someone help me in
reformatting this:

40922003 Life Fitness Products $1 (12-13-08) (CVS)
546500181141 Oust Air Sanitizer, any B1G1F up to $3.49 (1-17-09) .35
each
518000159258 Pillsbury Crescent Dinner Rolls, any .25 (2-14-09)
518000550406 Pillsbury Frozen Grands Biscuits, Cinnamon Rolls, Mini
Cinnamon Rolls, etc. .40 (2-14-09)

into something like this:

"40922003","Life Fitness Products $1","12-13-08"
"546500181141","Oust Air Sanitizer, any B1G1F up to $3.49","1-17-09"
"518000159258","Pillsbury Crescent Dinner Rolls, any .25","2-14-09"
"518000550406","Pillsbury Frozen Grands Biscuits, Cinnamon Rolls, Mini
Cinnamon Rolls, etc. .40","2-14-09"

Any help, pseudo code, or whatever push in the right direction would
be most appreciated.  I am a novice Python programmer but I do have a
good bit of PHP programming experience.

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"Music Theory Programming" Google Group

2008-10-22 Thread Chuck Cronan
Outstretched (Omar?)

 

Today I answered a query you presented two years ago about programming music
at VBAX, "Using Arrays and Indexes To Manipulate Variables ( A Music Project
)".

 

I don't know if you solved it but I realized that the notes and MIDI codes
actually follow a base 12 (duodecimal) system.  My response is at:

 

http://www.vbaexpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10065

 

A little confusing (I confused myself) and tried to clear it with a reply to
my own note.  Using base 12 makes it easy to add key numbers and change the
music key.  Sorry it was two years too late, but I just joined VBAX today (I
hope someone will answer my question but it seems no one is interested).

 

I am not a musician (but I have a piano I want to sell).

 

Chuck

 

Charles L. Cronan, PhD

4239 N. Larkin St

Shorewood,  WI  53211-1558

414-962-1627

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

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Re: Good python equivalent to C goto

2008-08-18 Thread Chuck Rhode
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:08:35 -0500, Grant Edwards wrote:

> In Python one uses try/raise/except.

At the risk of introducing an anachronism and in deference to
Mr. "ElementTree" Lundh, I now invoke Godwin's Law (1990):

Isn't *try/except* kinda sorta like the musty, old *come from*
construct proposed for *fortran*?  

Here there be typos (abject apologies):

o Clark, R. Lawrence. "A Linguistic Contribution to GOTO-less
Programming." _Datamation_ Dec. 1973. 18 Aug. 2008
<http://www.fortranlib.com/gotoless.htm>.

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Re: Web Crawler - Python or Perl?

2008-06-26 Thread Chuck Rhode
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:47:59 -0700, subeen wrote:

> You can avoid the problem using the following code:

> import socket

> timeout = 300 # seconds
> socket.setdefaulttimeout(timeout)

Yes, I tried that, too, but I forget what went wrong with it.
Perhaps, the socket kept up the handshake even though the download
stalled.

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Re: Web Crawler - Python or Perl?

2008-06-12 Thread Chuck Rhode
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:48:03 -0700, disappearedng wrote:

> I know Python but not Perl, and I am interested in knowing which of
> these two are a better choice.

I'm partial to *Python*, but, the last time I looked, *urllib2* didn't
provide a time-out mechanism that worked under all circumstances.  My
client-side scripts would usually hang when the server quit
responding, which happened a lot.  

You can get around this by starting an *html* retrieval in its own
thread, giving it a deadline, and killing it if it doesn't finish
gracefully.

A quicker and considerably grittier solution is to supply timeout
parms to the *curl* command through the shell.  Execute the command
and retrieve its output through the *subprocess* module.

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Re: Python 3000: Standard API for archives?

2007-06-05 Thread Chuck Rhode
Tim Golden wrote this on Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:55:30 +0100.  My reply is
below.

> Chuck Rhode wrote:

>> samwyse wrote this on Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:02:03 +.  My reply is
>> below.

>>> I think it would be a good thing if a standardized interface
>>> existed, similar to PEP 247.  This would make it easier for one
>>> script to access multiple types of archives, such as RAR, 7-Zip,
>>> ISO, etc.

>> Gee, it would be great to be able to open an archive member for
>> update I/O.  This is kind of hard to do now.  If it were possible,
>> though, it would obscure the difference between file directories
>> and archives, which would be kind of neat.  Furthermore, you could
>> navigate archives of archives (zips of tars and other
>> abominations).

> Just put something together a module called "archive" or whatever,
> which exposes the kind of API you're thinking of, offering support
> across zip, bz2 and whatever else you want. Put it up on the
> Cheeseshop, announce it on c.l.py.ann and anywhere else which seems
> apt. See if it gains traction.  Take it from there.

> NB This has the advantage that you can start small, say with zip and
> bz2 support and maybe see if you get contributions for less common
> formats, even via 3rd party libs. If you were to try to get it into
> the stdlib it would need to be much more fully specified up front, I
> suspect.

Yeah, this is in the daydreaming stages.  I'd like to maintain
not-just-read-only libraries of geographic shapefiles, which are
available free from governmental agencies and which are riddled with
obvious errors.  Typically these are published in compressed archives
within which every subdirectory is likewise compressed (apparently for
no other purpose than a rather vain attempt at flattening the
directory structure, which must be reconstituted on the User's end
anyway).  Building a comprehensive index to what member name(s) the
different map layers (roads, political boundaries, watercourses) have
in various political districts of varying geographic resolutions is
much more than merely frustrating.  I've given it up.  However, I
believe that once I've located something usable, the thing to do is
save a grand unified reference locator (GURL) for it.  The GURL would
specify a directory path to the highest level archive followed by a
(potential cascade of) archive member name(s for enclosed archives) of
the data file(s) to be operated on.  Unpacking and repacking would be
behind the scenes.  Updates (via FTP) of non-local resources would be
transparent, too.  I think, though, that notes about the publication
date, publisher, resolution, area covered, and format of the map or
map layer ought to be kept out of the GURL.

My whole appetite for this sort of thing would vanish if access to the
shapefiles were more tractable to begin with.

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Re: Python 3000: Standard API for archives?

2007-06-04 Thread Chuck Rhode
samwyse wrote this on Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:02:03 +.  My reply is
below.

> I think it would be a good thing if a standardized interface
> existed, similar to PEP 247.  This would make it easier for one
> script to access multiple types of archives, such as RAR, 7-Zip,
> ISO, etc.

Gee, it would be great to be able to open an archive member for update
I/O.  This is kind of hard to do now.  If it were possible, though, it
would obscure the difference between file directories and archives,
which would be kind of neat.  Furthermore, you could navigate archives
of archives (zips of tars and other abominations).

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Re: PEP 8 style enforcing program

2007-05-31 Thread Chuck Rhode
montyphyton wrote this on Thu, 31 May 2007 05:16:30 -0700.  My reply
is below.

> I understand that there are a lot of code beautifiers out there, but
> i haven't seen one specially tailored for Python.

Consider PythonTidy:

o http://lacusveris.com/PythonTidy/PythonTidy.python

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Re: PEP 3131: Supporting Non-ASCII Identifiers

2007-05-15 Thread Chuck Rhode
Grant Edwards wrote this on Mon, 14 May 2007 19:22:16 +.  My reply
is below.

>> Of course. If they're any longer than that then you can't fit an
>> entire identifier into a 36-bit CDC 6600 machine register so you
>> can do a compare with a single machine instruction.

While skimming this discussion, I, too, was suffering flashbacks to
CDC's 6-bit Hollerith code.

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Re: nonstandard XML character entities?

2007-04-14 Thread Chuck Rhode
Chuck Rhode wrote this on Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:04:45 -0500.  My reply is
below.

Fixed text wrap:

> import xml.etree.ElementTree  # or elementtree.ElementTree prior to 2.5
> ElementTree = xml.etree.ElementTree
> import htmlentitydefs


> class XmlFile(ElementTree.ElementTree):

> def __init__(self, file=None, tag='global', **extra):
> ElementTree.ElementTree.__init__(self) 
> parser = ElementTree.XMLTreeBuilder(
> target=ElementTree.TreeBuilder(Element))
> parser.entity = htmlentitydefs.entitydefs
> self.parse(source=file, parser=parser) 
> return


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Re: nonstandard XML character entities?

2007-04-14 Thread Chuck Rhode
Martin v. Löwis wrote this on Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:10:44 +0200.  My
reply is below.

> Paul Rubin:

>> I'm new to xml mongering so forgive me if there's an obvious
>> well-known answer to this.  It's not real obvious from the library
>> documentation I've looked at so far.  Basically I have to munch of
>> a bunch of xml files which contain character entities like ú
>> which are apparently nonstandard.

-snip-

> In ElementTree, the XMLTreeBuilder has an attribute entity which is
> a dictionary used to map entity names in entity references to their
> definitions. Whether you can make the parser download the DTD
> itself, I don't know.

What he said

Try this on your piano:

: import xml.etree.ElementTree  # or elementtree.ElementTree prior to 2.5
: ElementTree = xml.etree.ElementTree
: import htmlentitydefs


: class XmlFile(ElementTree.ElementTree):

  
: def __init__(self, file=None, tag='global', **extra):
: ElementTree.ElementTree.__init__(self)
: parser = ElementTree.XMLTreeBuilder(
: target=ElementTree.TreeBuilder(Element))
: parser.entity = htmlentitydefs.entitydefs
: self.parse(source=file, parser=parser)
: return


It looks goofy as can be, but it works for me.

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Re: [JOB] Sr. Python Developer, Northern VA

2007-03-23 Thread Chuck Rhode
John J. Lee wrote this on Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:16:13 +.  My reply is
below.

> I sympathise but conventional wisdom (which surely has a lot of
> truth in it) is that employers are not faced with the problem of
> minimising false negatives (failing to hire when they should have
> hired).  They are faced with the problem of minimising false
> positives (hiring when they should not have hired).  That's a gross
> simplification of course, but I'm sure you appreciate the point --
> if you're hiring employees, being fairly risk-averse is probably
> quite rational.

... so what's this we hear of employers' (in the US) being so starved
for talent that they're willing to bring in young men from overseas
with 3.5 kids and 1.5 wives?

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Re: Python Source Code Beautifier

2007-02-27 Thread Chuck Rhode
Franz Steinhaeusler wrote this on Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:45:42 +0100.  My
reply is below.

> Hello, I did not find any reasonable pyhton source code beautifier
> program (preferable gui).

-snip-

> Is there such a tool around?

Why, yes!  Yes, there is:

o http://lacusveris.com/PythonTidy/PythonTidy.python

It doesn't have a graphical user interface, and it doesn't do
everything you want, and it isn't reasonable (It's of an unreasonable
size.), but it is a beginning.

For future reference, look in:

o http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi

... under "reformat."

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Re: Automated resizing of JPEG image + making slices?

2007-02-15 Thread Chuck Rhode
Michiel Sikma wrote this on Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:21:34 +0100.  My reply
is below.

-snip-

> I initially hired someone to do it in PHP (don't bite, please :-)
> but it seems that I forgot about one thing: the people updating the
> site would have been able to upload a huge 30 MB JPEG image, which
> PHP would then resize to various sizes and cut them into 200x200
> pieces, which would be fed to the Google Maps API. However, this
> costs a lot of memory, and PHP by default only has 8 MB.

-snip-

> I know some Python (but not much since I've never actually written
> that many things in it), and with some effort I could probably make
> a simple image manipulator frontend in it, but only if I can find a
> good library for doing the actual manipulation. Do any of you know
> such libraries?

I can't make head or tail of your project's constraints, so the
following advice probably isn't worth much.

IMHO, slicing and dicing is best done by stand-alone, special-purpose,
image-manipulation routines that do their own I/O.  Here is a library
of such routines:

o http://netpbm.sourceforge.net/doc/directory.html

These can be chained together (piped) in shell script (or in *python*
if you prefer) if they're installed on your server.  There is an API
(and maybe even a *python* interface), but I've never needed it.  For
security, the parameters passed to these routines from the wild (such
as file names) need to be scrubbed clean of any delimiters that would
look like executable shell script code, variable substitutions, or
even spurious path names.

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Re: beep or sound playing under linux

2007-01-22 Thread Chuck Rhode
hg wrote this on Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 04:12:50PM +0100.  My reply is below.

> Is there a way to do that?  (Make noise.)

In Gnome there is:

gtk.gdk.beep()

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PythonTidy 1.10

2007-01-18 Thread Chuck Rhode
PythonTidy cleans up, regularizes, and reformats the text of Python
scripts.

It is released under the GNU General Public License.  

Python scripts are usually so good looking that no beautification is
required.  However, from time to time, it may be necessary to alter
the style to conform to changing standards.  This script converts
programs in a consistent way.  It abstracts the pretty presentation of
the symbolic code from the humdrum process of writing it and getting
it to work.

This is an upgrade.  There was a big problem with earlier versions:
Canonical values were substituted for strings and numbers.  For
example, decimal integers were substituted for hexadecimal, and
escaped strings for raw strings.  Authors of Python scripts usually
use peculiar notations for peculiar purposes, and doing away with the
peculiarity negatively impacts the readability of the code.

This version preserves the original constants (parsed by *tokenize*)
in a literal pool indexed by the value they evaluate to.  The
canonical values (output by *compiler*) are then translated back (when
possible) to the original constants by looking them up in the literal
pool.

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Re: Conflicting needs for __init__ method

2007-01-17 Thread Chuck Rhode
Ben Finney wrote this on Wed, Jan 17, 2007 at 08:27:54PM +1100.  My reply is 
below.

> I recommend, instead, separate factory functions for separate input
> types.

Uh, how 'bout separate subclasses for separate input types?

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Re: ReportLab - Frames - Images

2007-01-15 Thread Chuck
Thanks for the help. I made you changes but it still puts the picture
above the text, not beside the text.

I also found a user group at
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.reportlab.user . It may be the
same. I have now posted there.

Chuck

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ReportLab - Frames - Images

2007-01-15 Thread Chuck
I have been trying all day to get this to work. My complete code is
below. I can get my text into the PDF, I can get my image in the PDF.
What I can't get to work is frames so that the image (logo) appears to
the right of the text. The image always appears first and then the text
below on the next line.

Please help.


Chuck

*** CUT ***
from reportlab.pdfgen import *

from reportlab.platypus import *

from reportlab.lib.units import inch
from reportlab.platypus  import SimpleDocTemplate
from reportlab.platypus  import flowables
from reportlab.lib.enums import TA_LEFT, TA_RIGHT, TA_CENTER,
TA_JUSTIFY

from reportlab.lib.pagesizes import letter



#precalculate some basics
top_margin = letter[1] - inch
bottom_margin = inch
left_margin = inch
right_margin = letter[0] - inch
frame_width = right_margin - left_margin

def bill(canvas, doc):
canvas.saveState()
canvas.restoreState()

def run():
doc = []
from reportlab.lib.styles import ParagraphStyle
from reportlab.platypus import Image

pdf = SimpleDocTemplate('bill2.pdf', pagesize = letter)

#need a style
normal = ParagraphStyle('normal')

doc.append(Image("pic.jpg", 100, 71))  #Logo

para = Paragraph("Some text1", normal)
doc.append(para)
para = Paragraph("Some text2", normal)
doc.append(para)
para = Paragraph("Some text3", normal)
doc.append(para)
para = Paragraph("Some text4", normal)
doc.append(para)
para = Paragraph(" ", normal)
doc.append(para)
doc.append(HRFlowable(color="black", thickness=3, width="100%"))


pdf.build(doc,bill)

run()
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Re: help: code formatter?

2007-01-08 Thread Chuck Rhode
siggi wrote this on Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 03:33:21PM +0100.  My reply is below.

> Is there a simple code formatter that first removes all indentations
> and then refomats correctly?

Why, yes, there is:

  http://lacusveris.com/PythonTidy/PythonTidy.python

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Re: PythonTidy

2006-12-06 Thread Chuck Rhode
Thomas Heller wrote this on Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 07:06:30PM +0100.  My
reply is below.

> There is still one major issue.  pythonTidy uses open(input-file,
> "rb") to open the Python module to tidy up.  That does not work on
> Windows, at least if the file has (as it should) "\r\n" newlines.

Thank you for challenging my parochial world view.  

I have posted yet another version of PythonTidy:

  http://www.lacusveris.com/PythonTidy/PythonTidy-1.5.python

This one is omnivorous wrt to newlines.

> For output, PythonTidy generates "\n" line endings, this should also
> be changed on Windows.

When OVERRIDE_NEWLINE = None, the first newline encountered on input
is the one used throughout the output; otherwise, you can set it to
what you want, e.g, OVERRIDE_NEWLINE = '\n'.

> PythonTidy outputs strings with single quotes, while my own style is
> to use double quotes (I don't think that pep8 prefers one over the
> other).  Is it possible to customize this?

Here is a new global:  DOUBLE_QUOTED_STRINGS = True.

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Re: PythonTidy

2006-12-05 Thread Chuck Rhode
Thomas Heller wrote this on Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 07:06:30PM +0100.  My
reply is below.

> I suggest you open the file with open(input-file, "rU").

This doesn't work so pretty good while reading from sys.stdin, so I'm
still at the drawing board.

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Re: PythonTidy

2006-12-05 Thread Chuck Rhode
rzed wrote this on Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 08:19:28PM -0500.  My reply is
below.

> I ran PythonTidy on a wxPython sample, and found that wx.CONSTANTS 
> were being translated to wx.Constants, which won't do at all.

Find the first line in the PythonTidy code where the following global
variables are declared and change them as follows:

PERSONAL = False  # This eliminates case manipulation.

> The idea of PythonTidy is not bad, but there should be a minimal
> option that essentially reindents and nothing more. ... For example,
> I don't necessarily need a shebang or coding line for my purposes,
> but without going into the code and commenting out lines, I can't
> readily suppress them.

Yes, it's too bad that PythonTidy doesn't have an *.rc file or a *.cfg
file or an *.ini file or an *.xml file or a Registry entry or a Gnome
configuration or its own graphical front end or a gob of command-line
options, but that's just the way it is.

SHEBANG = ''  # This removes the shebang line from the output.
CODING_SPEC = ''  # This removes the coding specification from the output.

> As it stands now, I can't trust PythonTidy to do the right thing on
> unfamiliar code, and I can't readily try out various options by
> simply activating or deactivating them; if I could, it would be much
> more useful to me.

PythonTidy should be run only on code that is already familiar or that
will rapidly become so in the near future.

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PythonTidy

2006-12-05 Thread Chuck Rhode
That went well.  PythonTidy has been looked at at least 10**2 times,
and I have received a couple of complaints, which I hope I have
addressed satisfactorily -- plenty good enough for a beta test.  The
basic concept stands.

PythonTidy.py cleans up, regularizes, and reformats the text of
Python scripts:

  http://www.LacusVeris.com/PythonTidy/PythonTidy.python

What next?  Is it appropriately submitted to the Cheese Shop?

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Re: PythonTidy

2006-12-02 Thread Chuck Rhode
Thomas Heller wrote this on Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 10:12:38PM +0100.  My reply is 
below.

> Chuck Rhode schrieb:

> > o Command-line args: Please give an example of a standard command that
> > I might emulate w.r.t. standard argument use.

> Well, at least it would be nice if I could call
> 'PythonTidy.py mymodule.py' to tidy up the mymodule.py file.

I've uploaded a new version of PythonTidy:

o  http://www.lacusveris.com/PythonTidy/PythonTidy-1.4.python  

It fixes several problems.  Also it allows file names as arguments.

> Here is part of a diff before and after running PythonTidy on it:

> 
> -def comptr_setitem(self, index, value):
> -# We override the __setitem__ method of the
> -# POINTER(POINTER(interface)) type, so that the COM
> -# reference count is managed correctly.
> +def comptr_setitem(self, index, value):  # We override the 
> __setitem__ method of the
> + # 
> POINTER(POINTER(interface)) type, so that the COM
> + # reference count is 
> managed correctly.

> Can this be customized?

This problem has been fixed I think.  No customization should be
required to keep block comments from being rendered as in-line
comments.

Wolfgang Grafen reported that PythonTidy crashed in Python-2.4 because
new Abstract Syntax Tree node types introduced in Python-2.5 weren't
available.  It was trivial to check availability, so PythonTidy should
now run in Python-2.4.  However, this has not been thoroughly tested
and is not guaranteed.

PythonTidy can now recode string literals if required, although this
capability is turned off by default.  See RECODE_STRINGS.

Docstrings will henceforward be enclosed in double quotes when
feasible.

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Re: PythonTidy

2006-12-02 Thread Chuck Rhode
Thomas Heller wrote this on Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 10:12:38PM +0100.  My reply is 
below.

> Here is part of a diff before and after running PythonTidy on it:
> 
> 
> -def comptr_setitem(self, index, value):
> -# We override the __setitem__ method of the
> -# POINTER(POINTER(interface)) type, so that the COM
> -# reference count is managed correctly.
> +def comptr_setitem(self, index, value):  # We override the 
> __setitem__ method of the
> + # 
> POINTER(POINTER(interface)) type, so that the COM
> + # reference count is 
> managed correctly.
> 
> Can this be customized?

I am able to rationalize why this happens, but you are correct: This
behavior is not appropriate.  I am testing several changes, one of
which should prevent it in all cases, obviating the need for a custom
switch.

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Re: PythonTidy

2006-11-30 Thread Chuck Rhode
Thomas Heller wrote this on Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 09:50:25PM +0100.  My
reply is below.

> The two things that bother me at the moment are how the comments are
> formatted (dunno if that can be customized or changed easily), and
> it would be good if the script took command line args instead of
> working as a filter only.

Thank you for trying PythonTidy.

o Command-line args: Please give an example of a standard command that
I might emulate w.r.t. standard argument use.

o Comments: Input is parsed twice: I use *tokenize.generate_tokens* to
extract the comments and *compiler.parse* to generate the Abstract
Syntax Tree (AST).  Other applications usually use the AST to generate
bytecode, so it contains no information about comments.  The tokens
list identifies keywords (and comments and some whitespace) but
doesn't group them into statements.  I need both: comments *and*
functional grouping.  Fortunately both the AST and the tokens list
carry line numbers to reference the source.  Unfortunately the AST
line numbers are relative to functional groups and do not necessarily
apply to the particular keywords that introduce each group.  This
makes fixing the position of comments relative to reconstructed code a
bit of a challenge.  For example, when a comment has a line number in
the beginning/ending range of what would normally be considered one
command, I have to assume it is an inline comment regardless of how it
may have appeared in the original code.

Out-of-line comments should appear pretty much as they did in the
original code, however.  Can you provide an example where they do not?
Would you prefer that they be left justified or wrapped?  >-~

Doc strings (for modules, class declarations, and functions) are
another matter.  PythonTidy should not mess with them (unless
LEFTJUST_DOC_STRINGS is True).  They should appear exactly as
originally written.

I was taught that code ought to be self documenting and that comments
more often than not diminish readability by padding the code beyond
what can be comprehended on one page (screen).  I use them only
minimally and am not greatly inconvenienced when they are moved around
a little.

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Re: PythonTidy

2006-11-30 Thread Chuck Rhode
Roberto Bonvallet wrote this on Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 01:21:55PM +.  My 
reply is below.

> About changing the shebang line: I'll take it as a bug.

> About changing the encoding declaration from vim-style to
> emacs-style: I'll take it as an insult :)

Ooh! 

> Both are comments, and should be left that way.  Besides, there is no
> officially preferred way for each of them.  BTW, in a recent thread on
> this newsgroup, most people said they preferred #!/usr/bin/env python over
> #!/usb/bin/python for the shebang line. See http://tinyurl.com/yngmfr .

Thanks for the link.  I was unaware of the /usr/bin/env technique and
the controversy surrounding it.

Thanks, too, for trying *PythonTidy*.

As you have no doubt perceived, *PythonTidy* is *not* "table driven."
It is a script after all.  I decided before writing it that I didn't
really need to externalize all the options; nevertheless, most are
declared near the beginning where they sit just begging for end-user
involvement.  See: CODING_SPEC and SHEBANG.  *PythonTidy* is all about
consistency, consistency, and consistency.  You can use it to
standardize shebangs and coding across a whole library of Python
scripts.

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PythonTidy

2006-11-29 Thread Chuck Rhode
I couldn't find a routine to clean up, regularize, and reformat Python
code, so I wrote one:

  http://www.lacusveris.com/PythonTidy/PythonTidy.python

Now, I'm looking for beta-testers.  Compensation is a bit on the low
side.  In fact it's limited to the satisfaction of helping out.
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Re: Finding skilled pythonistas for micro-jobs?

2006-11-18 Thread Chuck Rhode
Paul Rubin wrote this on Sat, Nov 18, 2006 at 04:39:47PM -0800.  My
reply is below.

> "darran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > Any suggestions then for locating skilled Python/C++ programmers
> > for these small (micro) jobs?

> I've taken a number of these and always regretted it.  They've been
> far more hassle than they're worth.  But maybe that's just me.

I've never seen the point of trying to compete for the kind of
work-at-home programming jobs you see posted on Internet clearing
houses.  A number of reservations have always stopped me:

o The problem descriptions are nebulous or incoherent or both.

o No background scope is provided.

o No performance criteria are set forth.

o No pay rate is specified.

o No due date is mentioned.

Obviously, it would take longer to draw these things together than it
would to do the job itself, at least in the posters' opinions.  I
can't help wondering, though, if they're serious, because, if they
need the job completed successfully, however trivial it may be,
sooner or later somebody is going to have to do their homework, and,
yes, it's going to take at least twice as long as they're willing to
spend when they get around to it.

I think there's a case to be made for hiring a another full-time
programmer if these small jobs keep cropping up.  Part of his job
description can be to prepare needs assessments and impact analyses
and to prioritize requests before he even thinks about beginning a
task.  It's difficult to outsource these things, and they are time
consuming.

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If you were given a mall would you take it?

2006-05-18 Thread Chuck
http://www.telebay.com/esolutions/opp.html

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Re: Compile ui files from within Eclipse

2006-03-07 Thread Chuck
I guess I could prompt for input but was hoping to find a better way.

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Re: Compile ui files from within Eclipse

2006-03-07 Thread Chuck
Well, I tried that but there isnt a way to get the filename without the
extension.

For example,
pyuic -o MyClass.py MyClass.ui

Using the variables in the external tool config I dont see a way to get
just the filename in order to create an output filename and pass it
into the pyoic.

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Compile ui files from within Eclipse

2006-03-06 Thread Chuck
Hello,

I am new to the Eclipse IDE.

I am using pydev plug-in to create python projects.

Is there a way to create custom builders to build certain types of
files?

I have done this with other IDE's but can't seem to figure it out
with Eclipse.

I am trying to build *.ui files of a pydev project to create the
corresponding py files.

For example to do this the manual way I would:

pyuic.exe c:\source.ui > c:\dest.py


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Re: logging module question

2006-01-23 Thread chuck
Ok, so I've figured this out (see below),

mail = logging.handlers.SMTPHandler('mail.vw.com',
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
   'Data Processing Error at
location: %s' % "Chuck's Desk")
mail.setFormatter(logging.Formatter('%(asctime)s %(message)s'))
ml = logging.getLogger('mail')
ml.addHandler(mail)
ml.propagate = 0  ## <---do this to turn off
propagation of error reporting

but now I'd like to understand the design rational behind having each
logger in the object hierarchy log the same output by default.  Anyone?

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logging module question

2006-01-23 Thread chuck
I want to create two different loggers so that users see one output
(e.g. no exception/stack traces) and others (e.g support staff) that
does see stack traces via email.  The code below is close but I still
get console output on the email logger from the "root" logger.  How do
I get rid of it?


import logging
import logging.handlers


def main():
console = logging.StreamHandler()
console.setFormatter(logging.Formatter('%(asctime)s %(message)s'))
console.setLevel(logging.CRITICAL)
logging.getLogger('').addHandler(console)

mail = logging.handlers.SMTPHandler('mail.vw.com',
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
   'Data Processing Error at
location: %s' % "Chuck's Desk")
mail.setFormatter(logging.Formatter('%(asctime)s %(message)s'))
logging.getLogger('mail').addHandler(mail)

try:
raise Exception("foobar")
except Exception, e:
logging.getLogger('').error(e)
print "Done logging to console"
logging.getLogger('mail').exception(e)

if __name__ == "__main__":
main()

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advanced module/import/namespace idioms

2005-12-31 Thread chuck
Every once in awhile I run across a python module that might have
statements like:

for c in sys.modules[module].__dict__.values():

or

import __builtin__
__builtin__.__dict__['_'] = lambda x: x

Snurf also does some strange import trickory (see
http://bdash.net.nz/svn/snurf/trunk/snurf/dataStore/).

While I'm sure none of this stuff is rocket science, but rather just
"namespace manipulation" there is very little explanation in the python
world that explains these techniques.  I've googled around to try to
find articles/papers that explain such techniques but cannot find any.
Can anyone point out any refereces that discuss such
module/import/namespace idioms.

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Re: PythonWin troubleshooting

2005-12-18 Thread chuck
Oh my gosh - thank you, thank.  I must have had thousands of these
entries in my registry.  I've blown it away and at least at initial
testing, appears to have solved the problem.

I should have gone poking around the the bug database.  Next time I
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Re: Python IDE (was: PythonWin troubleshooting)

2005-12-17 Thread chuck
Yeah but is it 'fast'.  What is Komodo written in?

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Re: Which Python web framework is most like Ruby on Rails?

2005-12-16 Thread chuck
> Let's just note that sturgeon's law applies to all programmers, and
> let it go at that. I'll get back to this.

fine

> And thank you.

you are welcome

> I'm not a big fan of popularity for the sake of popularity.
neither am I

> "it would make Python more popular" isn't an adequate
> justification for a change

I disagree.  The world desperately needs programming languages,
frameworks, etc. that allow for the more efficient creation and
maintenance of software application - web or otherwise.  I happen to
think that Python is something that could help.  With this regard the
popularity of Python seems relevant to me.

>and *certainly* not for a change that is
> otherwise undesirable. 

please explain

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Re: Which Python web framework is most like Ruby on Rails?

2005-12-16 Thread chuck
> I did a fairly thorough investigation of web frameworks that let us
> write Python (we didn't care what the framework was written in; merely
> that it interfaced with Python) for one of the systems I've built this
> year. I wouldn't call the evaluation of web frameworks a problem - we
> met our schedules, and the tool evaluation phase was by *far* the
> shortest phase in the project, taking less than a week. Most of the
> evaluations were easy - read the description of the framework, and
> decide that we're working outside the problem space it's desinged
> for. It certainly wasn't wasted time - I found a tool that I hadn't
> heard of previously that was nearly perfectly suited to the job at
> hand.

As I read through this thread I can't say that I disagree that having
more choices is a 'good thing'.  However in your example here - I
suspect that you are a bit sharper and have a bit more guts than your
average code slinger since you appear to be an independent.  You've got
to remember that your average corporate programmer - which are the
folks driving the popularity of programming languages - isn't that
sharp/confident.  (I don't mean to insult anyone but that just the
facts.)  They don't do things like evaluate frameworks and make smart
choices.  This is why there needs to be obvious and singularly popular
frameworks and IDE's for Python so that people don't have to think that
hard about it.  Take Java for example - for the most part its Eclipse
and Struts.  I know there are many other choices (I've used them), but
even the managers know these terms.  Very, very few people I know in
the IT world know of 'Python', let alone the name of any web framework
or an IDE for Python.

One of the great things about Python is its simplicty/clarity.  Its a
shame that there doesn't also exist a clarity of choice for a web
framework for Python or an IDE for that matter.  Both of these would go
a long way in motivating people to take a look at Python and realizing
what great value it has to offer the IT world in solving problems.

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Re: Which Python web framework is most like Ruby on Rails?

2005-12-15 Thread chuck
> People keep talking about Python's wealth of web frameworks as if it
> were a bad thing.

I disagree somewhat.  While variety and choice are nice, sometimes
having too many choices may inhibit people from trying the language
because they don't know where to start in terms of framworks.  Maybe
I'm wrong but if there is an element of truth what I suggest then that
would be a terrible shame since Python is such a great language.
Python's popularity might improve if there were a bit more unity within
the Python community with regards to (web) frameworks.

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Python IDE (was: PythonWin troubleshooting)

2005-12-15 Thread chuck
Apparently not too many people use or are interested in PythonWin.  I'm
giving up on it.  It used to work pretty good.

I'm lucky that I have found PyScripter (http://www.mmm-experts.com/) a
python IDE for the windows platform which is much more stable and has
more features that PythonWin.  If you are doing Python development on
Windows I'd recommend taking a look at it.

I'm also evaluating Wing IDE.  I may have another post with comments on
it for anyone who might be interested.

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Re: Dectecting dir changes

2005-12-15 Thread chuck
Thanks, I am aware of it.  I may pick it up, but in reviewing it on
Amazon and at the bookstore I've noted that it does not touch on FTP
server stuff or how to grok the framework in general.

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Re: PythonWin troubleshooting

2005-12-13 Thread chuck
Thanks for the suggestions but I have all of the MFC dll's.  In fact I
have Visual Studio 2003 installed on the box.  However my mfc42.dll is
different than the size stated on that link.  In fact the download is a
different size that what is stated on the link.

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Re: PythonWin troubleshooting

2005-12-13 Thread chuck

chuck wrote:
> Sticking with 2.4.2 I reverted to win32 ext 204 and problems were the
> same or worse.  Then I uninstalled both, removed the dangling py*24.dll
> and then installed "ActivePython 2.3.5.236".  All the problems went
> away.
>
> I hate to go back to 2.3 cause there are some nice updates in the 2.4
> library that I'd like to have.  Time permitting I'll try other versions
> of various windows distributions and let you know the outcome.  I'd be
> interested in hearing more from other folks who may or may not be
> experiencing similar problems.

After some use the problems have re-appeared with the "ActivePython
2.3.5.236" distro.  I think the problem is related to some sort of
shell hook as it goofs up not only PythonWin, but other windows
applications and windows itself.  Can't get the context menu to work in
explorer, the task manager from the task bar, etc.  Something is really
goofed up!  The problem only appears when PythonWin is running or was
running and is hung in memory from a non-clean PythonWin shutdown.

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Re: PythonWin troubleshooting

2005-12-13 Thread chuck
Sticking with 2.4.2 I reverted to win32 ext 204 and problems were the
same or worse.  Then I uninstalled both, removed the dangling py*24.dll
and then installed "ActivePython 2.3.5.236".  All the problems went
away.

I hate to go back to 2.3 cause there are some nice updates in the 2.4
library that I'd like to have.  Time permitting I'll try other versions
of various windows distributions and let you know the outcome.  I'd be
interested in hearing more from other folks who may or may not be
experiencing similar problems.

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Re: PythonWin troubleshooting

2005-12-12 Thread chuck
Build 205 for the win32 ext.

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PythonWin troubleshooting

2005-12-12 Thread chuck
Having problems with PythonWin on Windows XP SP1.  Shortly after
startup and trying to debug I see:

LoadBarState failed - LoadBarState failed (with win32 exception!)

Things go down hill quickly from there.  From there I see stuff like:

[Dbg]>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
  File
"C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\pywin\framework\winout.py",
line 111, in OnRClick
apply(menu.AppendMenu, appendParams)
win32ui: ::AppendMenu failed - no error code is available

>From there out none of the menus or toolbars work.

This is on Windows/Python 2.4.2.  Both the ActiveState or regular
Windows distribution.  I've cleaned up any old Py*23 DLL's.
Uninstalled and re-installed several times.

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Re: Dectecting dir changes

2005-12-10 Thread chuck
I do need to stick to FTP though as indicated I could run it on a
different port.  Limit comes more from the client side capabilities.

Did some reading about twisted and I now understand that things in
general are single threaded.

I started working my way through the twisted finger tutorial.  While it
appears that it may be useful for someone writing a new protocol it
doesn't seem to useful for someone just trying to hook into an existing
one.

While I do appreciate the suggestions but I have to say that if the
twisted folks spent half the time writing documentation as they do code
- twisted would probably get used a lot more Python folks.  Didn't get
much encouragement/assistance from the twisted irc channel either.
Perhaps the fella I chatted with hadn't had his coffee yet ;)

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Re: Dectecting dir changes

2005-12-09 Thread chuck
Hmmm, that is an interesting idea.  I've noticed the new book on
Twisted, thinking about picking it up.

I assume that this little snippet will handle multiple/concurrent
incoming transfers via threading/sub-process, is scalable, secure, etc?

I could even run it on a non-standard port making it a bit more
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Re: Dectecting dir changes

2005-12-09 Thread chuck
ty - more useful than 'works here'

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Re: Dectecting dir changes

2005-12-09 Thread chuck
Is this on Solaris?

I think you may have missed my point.  I don't have fcntl.py on my
Solaris box so how do I know what signals that I can used to monitor a
directory for modification.  In other words will the following work?

fcntl.fcntl(self.fd, fcntl.F_NOTIFY,
fcntl.DN_DELETE|fcntl.DN_CREATE|fcntl.DN_MULTISHOT)

Without fcntl source, which the python documentation suggests that I
look at, I don't know if any of these constants apply to the Solaris
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Dectecting dir changes

2005-12-09 Thread chuck
I need to write a daemon for Solaris that monitors a directory for
incoming FTP transfers.  Under certain conditions, when the transfer is
complete I need to send an email notification, and do other stuff.
Win32 provides FindFirstChangeNotification(), but as best I can tell
this isn't supported on Solaris.

I am thinking of using the approach suggested here
http://tgolden.sc.sabren.com/python/win32_how_do_i/watch_directory_for_changes.html
which is:

import os, time
path_to_watch = "."
before = dict ([(f, None) for f in os.listdir (path_to_watch)])
while 1:
  time.sleep (10)
  after = dict ([(f, None) for f in os.listdir (path_to_watch)])
  added = [f for f in after if not f in before]
  removed = [f for f in before if not f in after]
  if added: print "Added: ", ", ".join (added)
  if removed: print "Removed: ", ", ".join (removed)
  before = after

My concern with this is that a change may be detected before the ftp
daemon process is done writing the file to disk.  I don't want to take
any action until the file is written and closed.  I know that I could
pole a new file looping to check to see if it's file size is changing
but the timing of such a loop is subject to I/O buffering and is
otherwise not elegant.

Googling shows other solutions using fcntl
(http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/217829) but it
appears that this only works on Linux.

While I'm at it I'm going to throw in a grump about the Python
documentation of fcntl.  The doco indicates to read the source for
fcntl.py to lookup the constants representing the different types of
events/signals that are avaiable.  However fcntl on some platforms
seems to be implemented as a binary leaving no way to look up the
contants for the platform.

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File Upload Script

2005-09-29 Thread Chuck
Hi, can anyone provide or point me in the direction of a simple python
file upload script?  I've got the HTML form part going but simply
putting the file in a directory on the server is what I'm looking for.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Chuck

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Re: Why doesn't IDLE editor windows have horizontal scrollbars?

2005-09-16 Thread chuck
Well I don't want to start yet another thread on IDE's.  I've googled
and all of that an am aware of most of the IDE's that are out there.  I
am curious if there is someplace where statistics have been captured on
what IDE's most people are using.  Since IDLE ships with Python I
assume a lot of people use it.  I've been a PythonWin user for years
but it has shortcomings, isnt' being developed further and doesn't run
on FreeBSD, my other platform.

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Why doesn't IDLE editor windows have horizontal scrollbars?

2005-09-16 Thread chuck
The browser windows do.  Why not the editor windows?

I hate to complain but is there any way to get IDLE to run in more of
an MDI mode?  Having the floating windows everywhere is rather
confusing to me.

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Re: Python Database Scripts

2005-09-13 Thread Chuck
Hi, thanks for (all) of your help.

BTW, where is the DB-API docs for python?

Thanks,
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Python Database Scripts

2005-09-12 Thread Chuck
Hello,

Can anyone provide any kind of python database (mysql) code or point me
to a link that has this?  Just simple things as maybe using a driver,
opening up a db, an insert and select.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated!

Thanks,
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