Re: new to python, help please !!
On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:34:30 -0800, Anas Belemlih wrote: > i am a beginning programmer, i am trying to write a simple code to > compare two character sets in 2 seperate files. ( 2 hash value files > basically) Why? If you simply wish to compare two files, most operating systems provide executable tools at the OS level which are more efficient than anything you will write in a scripting language. Lesson 1 of computing. Use the right tool for the job. Writing a new program is not always the right tool. -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcma...@gmail.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: new to python, help please !!
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 17:55:33 +, Quivis wrote: > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 13:58:35 +1100, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >> horribly inefficient > > Assuming it was md5 values, who cares? Those are small. A file of 160 million md5 hashes as 32 character hex strings is a huge file. Your method calculates the hash over both files to test whether the contents are different. If the input files are both lists of 160 million md5 hashes, you're calculating the hash of two 5 gigabyte files. In your method the size of the lines of data is irrelevant to the execution time, the execution time varies with the size of the datafiles. -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcma...@gmail.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: new to python, help please !!
Tim Chase wrote: > On 2015-11-12 15:56, Peter Otten wrote: >> Tim Chase wrote: >> >> > with open("file1.md5") as a, open("file2.md5") as b: >> > for s1, s2 in zip(a, b): >> > if s1 != s2: >> > print("Files differ") >> >> Note that this will not detect extra lines in one of the files. >> I recommend that you use itertools.zip_longest (izip_longest in >> Python 2) instead of the built-in zip(). > > Yeah, I noticed that after pushing but then posted a later > version that just read chunks of the file which should catch that > file-size difference. Or, as in that other message, prefix it with > an fstat() check to compare file-sizes so that you don't even have to > open the files if the sizes differ. > > -tkc >>> os.path.getsize("file1.md5") 10 >>> os.path.getsize("file2.md5") 10 >>> with open("file1.md5") as a, open("file2.md5") as b: ... for s, t in zip(a, b): ... if s != t: print("different") ... >>> from itertools import zip_longest >>> with open("file1.md5") as a, open("file2.md5") as b: ... for s, t in zip_longest(a, b): ... if s != t: print("different") ... different I admit I cheated and used Python 3 ;) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: new to python, help please !!
On 2015-11-12 15:56, Peter Otten wrote: > Tim Chase wrote: > > > with open("file1.md5") as a, open("file2.md5") as b: > > for s1, s2 in zip(a, b): > > if s1 != s2: > > print("Files differ") > > Note that this will not detect extra lines in one of the files. > I recommend that you use itertools.zip_longest (izip_longest in > Python 2) instead of the built-in zip(). Yeah, I noticed that after pushing but then posted a later version that just read chunks of the file which should catch that file-size difference. Or, as in that other message, prefix it with an fstat() check to compare file-sizes so that you don't even have to open the files if the sizes differ. -tkc -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: new to python, help please !!
Tim Chase wrote: > with open("file1.md5") as a, open("file2.md5") as b: > for s1, s2 in zip(a, b): > if s1 != s2: > print("Files differ") Note that this will not detect extra lines in one of the files. I recommend that you use itertools.zip_longest (izip_longest in Python 2) instead of the built-in zip(). -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: new to python, help please !!
Would some form of subprocess.Popen() on cmp or fc /b be easier? On Nov 12, 2015 7:13 AM, "Tim Chase" wrote: > On 2015-11-12 08:21, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > > And if you really wanted to compare two files that are known to > > contain MD5 checksums, the simplest way is: > > > >with open('f1.md5') as f1, open('f2.md5') as f2: > >if f1.read() == f2.read(): > >... > >else: > >... > > Though that suffers if the files are large. Might try > > CHUNK_SIZE = 4 * 1024 # read 4k chunks > # chunk_offset = 0 > with open('f1.md5') as f1, open('f2.md5') as f2: > while True: > c1 = f1.read(CHUNK_SIZE) > c2 = f2.read(CHUNK_SIZE) > if c1 or c2: > # chunk_offset += 1 > if c1 != c2: > not_the_same(c1, c2) > # not_the_same(chunk_offset * CHUNK_SIZE, c1, c2) > break > else: # EOF > the_same() > break > > which should perform better if the files are huge > > -tkc > > > > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: new to python, help please !!
On 2015-11-12 08:21, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > And if you really wanted to compare two files that are known to > contain MD5 checksums, the simplest way is: > >with open('f1.md5') as f1, open('f2.md5') as f2: >if f1.read() == f2.read(): >... >else: >... Though that suffers if the files are large. Might try CHUNK_SIZE = 4 * 1024 # read 4k chunks # chunk_offset = 0 with open('f1.md5') as f1, open('f2.md5') as f2: while True: c1 = f1.read(CHUNK_SIZE) c2 = f2.read(CHUNK_SIZE) if c1 or c2: # chunk_offset += 1 if c1 != c2: not_the_same(c1, c2) # not_the_same(chunk_offset * CHUNK_SIZE, c1, c2) break else: # EOF the_same() break which should perform better if the files are huge -tkc -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: new to python, help please !!
Steven D'Aprano : > On Thursday 12 November 2015 04:48, Quivis wrote: > >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:34:30 -0800, Anas Belemlih wrote: >> >>> md5 >> >> If those are md5 values stored inside files, wouldn't it be easier to >> just hash them? >> >> import hashlib >> >> m1 = hashlib.sha224(open('f1').read()).hexdigest() >> m2 = hashlib.sha224(open('f2').read()).hexdigest() > > I presume that the purpose of the exercise is to learn basic Python > skills like looping. And if you really wanted to compare two files that are known to contain MD5 checksums, the simplest way is: with open('f1.md5') as f1, open('f2.md5') as f2: if f1.read() == f2.read(): ... else: ... Marko -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: new to python, help please !!
On Thursday 12 November 2015 04:48, Quivis wrote: > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 08:34:30 -0800, Anas Belemlih wrote: > >> md5 > > If those are md5 values stored inside files, wouldn't it be easier to > just hash them? > > import hashlib > > m1 = hashlib.sha224(open('f1').read()).hexdigest() > m2 = hashlib.sha224(open('f2').read()).hexdigest() I presume that the purpose of the exercise is to learn basic Python skills like looping. Also, using sha224 when all you want is a simple "different"/"equal" is horribly inefficient. Sha224 needs to read the entire file, every single byte, *and* perform a bunch of expensive cryptographic operations. Consider reading two five GB files, the first starting with byte \x30 and the second starting with byte \x60. The two bytes are different, so we know the files differ, but sha224 still needs to do a massive amount of work. -- Steve -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: new to python, help please !!
Anas Belemlih writes: > i am a beginning programmer, i am trying to write a simple code to > compare two character sets in 2 seperate files. ( 2 hash value files > basically) Welcome, and congratulations on arriving at Python for your programming! As a beginning programmer, you will benefit from joining the ‘tutor’ forum https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor>, which is much better suited to collaborative teaching of newcomers. -- \ “As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of | `\ the demand.” —Josh Billings | _o__) | Ben Finney -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: new to python, help please !!
On 2015-11-11 08:34, Anas Belemlih wrote: > i am a beginning programmer, i am trying to write a simple code > to compare two character sets in 2 seperate files. ( 2 hash value > files basically) idea is: open both files, measure the length of > the loop on. > > if the length doesn't match, == files do not match > > if length matchs, loop while comparing each character from each > file if they match. please tell me what i am doing wrong ? i am > using python 2.7 > > ** > hash1= open ("file1.md5", "r") > line1 =hash1.read() > hash2 = open("file2.md5","r") > line2= hash2.read() > > number1 = len(line1) > number2 = len(line2) > > #** > i=0 > s1=line1[i] > s2=line2[i] > count = 0 > > if number1 != number2: > print " hash table not the same size" > else: > while count < number1: > if s1 == s2: > print " character", line1[i]," matchs" > i=i+1 > count=count+1 > else > print "Hash values corrupt" Well, the immediate answer is that you don't update s1 or s2 inside your loop. Also, the indent on "count=count+1" is wrong. Finally, if the hashes don't match, you don't break out of your while loop. That said, the pythonesque way of writing this would likely look something much more like with open("file1.md5") as a, open("file2.md5") as b: for s1, s2 in zip(a, b): if s1 != s2: print("Files differ") You can compare the strings to get the actual offset if you want, or check the lengths if you really want a more verbatim translation of your code: with open("file1.md5") as a, open("file2.md5") as b: for s1, s2 in zip(a, b): if len(s1) != len(s2): print("not the same size") else: for i, (c1, c2) in enumerate(zip(s1, s2)): if c1 == c2: print(" character %s matches" % c1) else: print(" %r and %r differ at position %i" % (s1, s2, i)) -tkc -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: new to python, help please !!
In <93aef8e5-3d6f-41f4-a625-cd3c20076...@googlegroups.com> Anas Belemlih writes: > i=0 > s1=line1[i] > s2=line2[i] > count = 0 > if number1 != number2: > print " hash table not the same size" > else: > while count < number1: > if s1 == s2: > print " character", line1[i]," matchs" > i=i+1 > count=count+1 > else > print "Hash values corrupt" It looks like you're expecting s1 and s2 to automatically update their values when i gets incremented, but it doesn't work like that. When you increment i, you also have to reassign s1 and s2. -- John Gordon A is for Amy, who fell down the stairs gor...@panix.com B is for Basil, assaulted by bears -- Edward Gorey, "The Gashlycrumb Tinies" -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
new to python, help please !!
i am a beginning programmer, i am trying to write a simple code to compare two character sets in 2 seperate files. ( 2 hash value files basically) idea is: open both files, measure the length of the loop on. if the length doesn't match, == files do not match if length matchs, loop while comparing each character from each file if they match. please tell me what i am doing wrong ? i am using python 2.7 ** hash1= open ("file1.md5", "r") line1 =hash1.read() hash2 = open("file2.md5","r") line2= hash2.read() number1 = len(line1) number2 = len(line2) #** i=0 s1=line1[i] s2=line2[i] count = 0 if number1 != number2: print " hash table not the same size" else: while count < number1: if s1 == s2: print " character", line1[i]," matchs" i=i+1 count=count+1 else print "Hash values corrupt" -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
Actually i live stream nearly everyday for 2 years, the problem with twitch is that the more "popular" people get first dibs and get treated better, have better perks, and all of that... Its all based on your initial viewer count, 90% of viewers just click the top video. All my views and numbers are based on me streaming for over 2 years. Anyways, I wasnt trying to cause trouble, i did post what happened when i ran the program. There was no traceback error, Here is my post from 2 days ago: Now in that directory in cmd, i type in python twitch.py 10 10. When i do this I get "thread error" posting infinitely down my cmd prompt. So it looks like the program is actually running now, just some im possibly missing? Once again I do have pip and livestreamer installed and the exact py file i have is located here: http://www.mediafire.com/view/3m10s9rwvatxd96/twitch.py Yes i do want it to work, and i would offer money to somebody who would actually help me, if it helped me to make it work faster. Is there not one person that can help a guy out? Mark -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Monday, December 16, 2013 1:09:38 AM UTC-6, Mark wrote: > > On Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:33:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > I went and looked at the post linked to, and it has > > > buggy indentation. (Quite possibly indicates that the > > > author has two-space tabs, and didn't notice a bug > > > slipping in. I dunno.) Along the way, though, I learned > > > that the script in question is entirely for generating > > > fake twitch.tv viewers so as to get your stream > > > highlighted fraudulently, so I'm rather less inclined to > > > help. Got a legitimate use for this, or are you just > > > trying to cheat your way to fame? > > > > > Thanks for the reply, the answer is yes and no, i already > > have about 2400 followers and half mil views, i just > > wanted to see if i could get it to work. > > That's like a serial spammer saying """I already have 2400 > spam bots and half a million victims but i just want to get > my latest bot working for "academic" purposes only. *wink*""" > > Listen Mark, it's obvious you don't have any coding or > debugging skills and all you want to do is employ this app > for your own fraudulent purposes, so with that in mind: > > NO SOUP FOR YOU! > -- > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > I'm kinda with Rick on this thread. A guy walks along with a name like markshizzle, offers $20 to make his 'thing' work, and proudly admits he doesn't want to know how the program works, he just wants it to work. I don't think this is the right place for you markshizzle. This is a place for people who are interested in improving their python skills, and asking question after they have done there best to learn on their own first. $20? .. as they used to say on "are you being served': go boil your head -- Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Monday, December 16, 2013 1:09:38 AM UTC-6, Mark wrote: > On Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:33:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: > > I went and looked at the post linked to, and it has > > buggy indentation. (Quite possibly indicates that the > > author has two-space tabs, and didn't notice a bug > > slipping in. I dunno.) Along the way, though, I learned > > that the script in question is entirely for generating > > fake twitch.tv viewers so as to get your stream > > highlighted fraudulently, so I'm rather less inclined to > > help. Got a legitimate use for this, or are you just > > trying to cheat your way to fame? > > > Thanks for the reply, the answer is yes and no, i already > have about 2400 followers and half mil views, i just > wanted to see if i could get it to work. That's like a serial spammer saying """I already have 2400 spam bots and half a million victims but i just want to get my latest bot working for "academic" purposes only. *wink*""" Listen Mark, it's obvious you don't have any coding or debugging skills and all you want to do is employ this app for your own fraudulent purposes, so with that in mind: NO SOUP FOR YOU! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:35:31 PM UTC+5:30, Mark wrote: > I am sorry, using google groups i cant tell what you see... > Anyways, I guess i will just make lots of lines instead of long sentences? > How about this, the first person that can get this to work for me... > I will paypal them 20 dollars for helping me. > I just want to get this thing up and going. > Ive posted where i am having trouble and got 2 replies talking about > spacing... > and not fixing any issues or giving advice. > Either that or somebody who thinks they might be able to help, can you plz > reply? I believe you were given a suggestion by Steven on posting a traceback Did you follow that? (Genuine question!!) Because if you did and it got lost in the characteristic 'GG-crap' you would not know that it had been 'crapified' by GG and others would not know that there was anything to read in the mess. So... assuming youve understood the following: 1. Read and follow https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython 2. Read and follow Steven's advice on how to ask help especially regarding errors 3. Try to minimize external links to code especially small snippets maybe best to just start a new thread??? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
I am sorry, using google groups i cant tell what you see... Anyways, I guess i will just make lots of lines instead of long sentences? How about this, the first person that can get this to work for me... I will paypal them 20 dollars for helping me. I just want to get this thing up and going. Ive posted where i am having trouble and got 2 replies talking about spacing... and not fixing any issues or giving advice. Either that or somebody who thinks they might be able to help, can you plz reply? Thanks again Mark -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:55:57 AM UTC+5:30, Mark wrote: > I am sorry if the way I posted messages was incorrect. Like I said, I am new > to google groups and python quite a bit but i am trying to do things > correctly by you guys. The errors that I am getting were not necessarily > posting traceback messages. Thats better -- thanks You still need to go through https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython See the length of your "I am sorry..." line above -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
I am sorry if the way I posted messages was incorrect. Like I said, I am new to google groups and python quite a bit but i am trying to do things correctly by you guys. The errors that I am getting were not necessarily posting traceback messages. In those messages I posted my last bit of confusion, how to properly run the program while meeting the arguments. Thanks Frank for giving me a little hint at that. Now in that directory in cmd, i type in python twitch.py 10 10. When i do this I get "thread error" posting infinitely down my stream. So it looks like the program is actually running now, just some im possibly missing? Once again I do have pip and livestreamer installed and the exact py file i have is located here: http://www.mediafire.com/view/3m10s9rwvatxd96/twitch.py Once again thanks for help, Mark -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On 12/16/13 3:02 AM, Mark wrote: If i just try to double click the script, i get an index error, i can barely see the window it disappears so fast, but thats what I see. If you're going to participate in this forum, you'll get better help from people if you use the medium well. 1) Sending 4 message in a row, within 15 minutes, each replying to the other, is not a good way to use a forum like this. Get your thoughts in order and send one message. 2) While I am normally quite tolerant of the double-spacing Google Groups insists on, your messages are taking it to absurd extremes. Take a look at your last message: https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2013-December/662678.html True, it's kind of beautiful in an abstract way, and is an interesting demonstration of certain binary behaviors, but it is not a good way to participate here. Of course, the messages you post are your choice, but you should consider the effect they have on the people you are hoping to get help from. -- Ned Batchelder, http://nedbatchelder.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On 16/12/2013 08:02, Mark wrote: The record for double spaced google crap, congratulations. Mind you, it's a great new game this, Spot the Text, much better than I Spy!!! On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:55:23 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:52:05 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:48:56 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:43:45 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:09:38 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: On Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:33:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Step 1: replace the modified version of the script with a known good copy. Actually, this might be where the problem is, unfortunately. Not the OP's fault at all. I went and looked at the post linked to, and it has buggy indentation. (Quite possibly indicates that the author has two-space tabs, and didn't notice a bug slipping in. I dunno.) Along the way, though, I learned that the script in question is entirely for generating fake twitch.tv viewers so as to get your stream highlighted fraudulently, so I'm rather less inclined to help. Got a legitimate use for this, or are you just trying to cheat your way to fame? ChrisA Thanks for the reply, the answer is yes and no, i already have about 2400 followers and half mil views, i just wanted to see if i could get it to work. So after taking everybody's advice, fixed the indentation as mentioned by the expert above. :) After, this is what i came up with Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Python27\Scripts\Twitch.py", line 9, in numberOfViewers = int(sys.argv[1]) IndexError: list index out of range Is this where i would plug in the variables to make it work? I'm not quite sure about how you would plug in those numbers okay so i kinda get it now, running it in cmd, i use the following command - python twitch.py 10 10. I am running it within the scripts directory.
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
"Mark" wrote in message news:4c2822b4-d95c-4735-af12-55ac5ff2f...@googlegroups.com... > On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:55:23 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: > > If i just try to double click the script, i get an index error, i can > barely see the window it disappears so fast, but thats what I see. I haven't really been following this thread, but I assume you are on Windows. If so, you can open a Command Prompt from All Programs/Accessories, 'cd' to the folder containing your script, and type in the script name. It will start, crash, and display the error, but the window will stay open, so you will be able to read the full traceback. Normally the traceback provides enough clues that you can figure out for yourself what the problem is. But if you still cannot solve it, copy/paste the entire traceback and send it here. The chances are that someone can help. BTW, did you notice that I removed the bulk of your original message, and left behind just enough to provide a context for your question and for my reply? This is good etiquette, and others will appreciate your doing the same. Frank Millman -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:55:23 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: > On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:52:05 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: > > > On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:48:56 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: > > > > > > > On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:43:45 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:09:38 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:33:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Steven D'Aprano > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Step 1: replace the modified version of the script with a known > > > > > > > good copy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, this might be where the problem is, unfortunately. Not the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OP's fault at all. I went and looked at the post linked to, and it > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > buggy indentation. (Quite possibly indicates that the author has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two-space tabs, and didn't notice a bug slipping in. I dunno.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Along the way, though, I learned that the script in question is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > entirely for generating fake twitch.tv viewers so as to get your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:52:05 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: > On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:48:56 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: > > > On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:43:45 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: > > > > > > > On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:09:38 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:33:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Steven D'Aprano > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Step 1: replace the modified version of the script with a known > > > > > > good copy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, this might be where the problem is, unfortunately. Not the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OP's fault at all. I went and looked at the post linked to, and it has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > buggy indentation. (Quite possibly indicates that the author has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two-space tabs, and didn't notice a bug slipping in. I dunno.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Along the way, though, I learned that the script in question is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > entirely for generating fake twitch.tv viewers so as to get your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stream highlighted fraudulently, so I'm rather less inclined to help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a legitimate use for this, or are you just trying to cheat your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way to fame? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ChrisA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply, the answer is yes and no, i already have about > > > > 2400 followers and half mil views, i just wanted to see if i could get > > > > it to work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So after taking everybody's advice, fixed the indentation as mentioned > > > > by the expert above. :) After, this is what i came up with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > File "C:\Python27\Scripts\Twitch.py", line 9, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > numberOfViewers = int(sys.argv[1]) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IndexError: list index out of range > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this where i would plug in the variables to make it work? I'm n
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:48:56 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: > On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:43:45 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: > > > On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:09:38 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: > > > > > > > On Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:33:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Steven D'Aprano > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Step 1: replace the modified version of the script with a known good > > > > > copy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, this might be where the problem is, unfortunately. Not the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OP's fault at all. I went and looked at the post linked to, and it has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > buggy indentation. (Quite possibly indicates that the author has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two-space tabs, and didn't notice a bug slipping in. I dunno.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Along the way, though, I learned that the script in question is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > entirely for generating fake twitch.tv viewers so as to get your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stream highlighted fraudulently, so I'm rather less inclined to help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a legitimate use for this, or are you just trying to cheat your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way to fame? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ChrisA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply, the answer is yes and no, i already have about 2400 > > > followers and half mil views, i just wanted to see if i could get it to > > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So after taking everybody's advice, fixed the indentation as mentioned by > > > the expert above. :) After, this is what i came up with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > File "C:\Python27\Scripts\Twitch.py", line 9, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > numberOfViewers = int(sys.argv[1]) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IndexError: list index out of range > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this where i would plug in the variables to make it work? I'm not > > > quite sure about how you would plug in those numbers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > okay so i kinda get it now, running it in cmd, i use the following command > > - > > > > > > python twitch.py 10 10. I am running it within the scripts directory. > > > > > > > > > > > > I get the following error in cmd: > > > > > > > > > > > > Syntax Error: invalid syntax > > > > > > >>>python twitch.py 10 10 > > > > > >File " line 1 > > > > > > python twitch.py 10 10 > > > > is there a more effecient way of doing this? I just hold shift and right > click to run cmd from the folder, > > > > File is located in C:\Python27\Scripts It was my understanding that you need to meet the arguments by running the in cmd with the numbers after? I am sorry to show my true noobyness and really appreciate the help. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:43:45 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: > On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:09:38 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: > > > On Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:33:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Steven D'Aprano > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Step 1: replace the modified version of the script with a known good > > > > copy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, this might be where the problem is, unfortunately. Not the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OP's fault at all. I went and looked at the post linked to, and it has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > buggy indentation. (Quite possibly indicates that the author has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two-space tabs, and didn't notice a bug slipping in. I dunno.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Along the way, though, I learned that the script in question is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > entirely for generating fake twitch.tv viewers so as to get your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stream highlighted fraudulently, so I'm rather less inclined to help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a legitimate use for this, or are you just trying to cheat your > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way to fame? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ChrisA > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply, the answer is yes and no, i already have about 2400 > > followers and half mil views, i just wanted to see if i could get it to > > work. > > > > > > > > > > > > So after taking everybody's advice, fixed the indentation as mentioned by > > the expert above. :) After, this is what i came up with > > > > > > > > > > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > > > > > File "C:\Python27\Scripts\Twitch.py", line 9, in > > > > > > numberOfViewers = int(sys.argv[1]) > > > > > > IndexError: list index out of range > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this where i would plug in the variables to make it work? I'm not quite > > sure about how you would plug in those numbers > > > > > > >>> > > > > okay so i kinda get it now, running it in cmd, i use the following command - > > python twitch.py 10 10. I am running it within the scripts directory. > > > > I get the following error in cmd: > > > > Syntax Error: invalid syntax > > >>>python twitch.py 10 10 > >File " line 1 > > python twitch.py 10 10 is there a more effecient way of doing this? I just hold shift and right click to run cmd from the folder, File is located in C:\Python27\Scripts -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Mark wrote: > Syntax Error: invalid syntax python twitch.py 10 10 >File " line 1 > python twitch.py 10 10 You're trying to run that from the interactive Python prompt. Run it from the system - exit Python and run just this script. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Monday, December 16, 2013 2:09:38 AM UTC-5, Mark wrote: > On Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:33:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Steven D'Aprano > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Step 1: replace the modified version of the script with a known good copy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, this might be where the problem is, unfortunately. Not the > > > > > > OP's fault at all. I went and looked at the post linked to, and it has > > > > > > buggy indentation. (Quite possibly indicates that the author has > > > > > > two-space tabs, and didn't notice a bug slipping in. I dunno.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Along the way, though, I learned that the script in question is > > > > > > entirely for generating fake twitch.tv viewers so as to get your > > > > > > stream highlighted fraudulently, so I'm rather less inclined to help. > > > > > > Got a legitimate use for this, or are you just trying to cheat your > > > > > > way to fame? > > > > > > > > > > > > ChrisA > > > > Thanks for the reply, the answer is yes and no, i already have about 2400 > followers and half mil views, i just wanted to see if i could get it to work. > > > > So after taking everybody's advice, fixed the indentation as mentioned by the > expert above. :) After, this is what i came up with > > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "C:\Python27\Scripts\Twitch.py", line 9, in > > numberOfViewers = int(sys.argv[1]) > > IndexError: list index out of range > > > > Is this where i would plug in the variables to make it work? I'm not quite > sure about how you would plug in those numbers > > >>> okay so i kinda get it now, running it in cmd, i use the following command - python twitch.py 10 10. I am running it within the scripts directory. I get the following error in cmd: Syntax Error: invalid syntax >>>python twitch.py 10 10 File " line 1 python twitch.py 10 10 -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Mark wrote: > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "C:\Python27\Scripts\Twitch.py", line 9, in > numberOfViewers = int(sys.argv[1]) > IndexError: list index out of range > > Is this where i would plug in the variables to make it work? I'm not quite > sure about how you would plug in those numbers In Python, sys.argv is the arguments passed to the script. You need to pass it some arguments when you run it. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:33:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Steven D'Aprano > > wrote: > > > Step 1: replace the modified version of the script with a known good copy. > > > > > > > Actually, this might be where the problem is, unfortunately. Not the > > OP's fault at all. I went and looked at the post linked to, and it has > > buggy indentation. (Quite possibly indicates that the author has > > two-space tabs, and didn't notice a bug slipping in. I dunno.) > > > > Along the way, though, I learned that the script in question is > > entirely for generating fake twitch.tv viewers so as to get your > > stream highlighted fraudulently, so I'm rather less inclined to help. > > Got a legitimate use for this, or are you just trying to cheat your > > way to fame? > > > > ChrisA Thanks for the reply, the answer is yes and no, i already have about 2400 followers and half mil views, i just wanted to see if i could get it to work. So after taking everybody's advice, fixed the indentation as mentioned by the expert above. :) After, this is what i came up with Traceback (most recent call last): File "C:\Python27\Scripts\Twitch.py", line 9, in numberOfViewers = int(sys.argv[1]) IndexError: list index out of range Is this where i would plug in the variables to make it work? I'm not quite sure about how you would plug in those numbers >>> -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Step 1: replace the modified version of the script with a known good copy. > Actually, this might be where the problem is, unfortunately. Not the OP's fault at all. I went and looked at the post linked to, and it has buggy indentation. (Quite possibly indicates that the author has two-space tabs, and didn't notice a bug slipping in. I dunno.) Along the way, though, I learned that the script in question is entirely for generating fake twitch.tv viewers so as to get your stream highlighted fraudulently, so I'm rather less inclined to help. Got a legitimate use for this, or are you just trying to cheat your way to fame? ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 13:31:10 -0800, Mark wrote: > I originally get an indent error on line 19, i delete the indent and i > get > > ***'return outside function (Twitch.py, line 19) > > Thats where i am at. This is on version 2.7 Remember the bit where we asked you to copy and paste the entire error message, starting from the Traceback line? This is *important*, please do not ignore it. If you're going to ask for help from experts, pay attention to what the experts tell you. At this point, I recommend you download the script again, since you've been making modifications to it and have probably introduced your own errors. Better to start again with a fresh copy in a known good state, rather than one that you've been making arbitrary changes to: Step 1: replace the modified version of the script with a known good copy. Step 2: try running that script using the correct version of Python. Step 3: if it fails in some way, copy and paste the entire traceback. It may be that you're using it wrongly. -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Mark wrote: > I originally get an indent error on line 19, i delete the indent and i get > > ***'return outside function (Twitch.py, line 19) Good point, someone's made a mistake in that file. What you need to do is match the "output = ..." line and the "return ..." line underneath it. For consistency with the rest of the file, indent the "output" line to match the other. That should make it work. ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Sunday, December 15, 2013 4:19:47 PM UTC-5, Mark wrote: > Thanks for the replies, I was hoping that one of you guys could actually try > it for me, as it might be easier to correct? In the meantime i will install > 2.7 instead of 3.3 and give it a try. > > > > Once again, i have very little experience in this, which is why i am looking > for help :) I am more worried about getting it to work then knowing whats > wrong, but it could also be helpful haha > > > > Thanks > > > > Mark I originally get an indent error on line 19, i delete the indent and i get ***'return outside function (Twitch.py, line 19) Thats where i am at. This is on version 2.7 If anybody could correct this for me or provide some incite. i would be very grateful. If any of you would be available for some sort of chat to fix it, I would also love to do something like that. Thanks again Mark -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
Thanks for the replies, I was hoping that one of you guys could actually try it for me, as it might be easier to correct? In the meantime i will install 2.7 instead of 3.3 and give it a try. Once again, i have very little experience in this, which is why i am looking for help :) I am more worried about getting it to work then knowing whats wrong, but it could also be helpful haha Thanks Mark -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 20:51:59 -0800, Mark wrote: > I have successfully installed python 3.3 for windows, pip and > livestreamer that is needed for it to work. They are in my scripts > folder. I either do not understand the script or it no longer works. It > is more than likely my error. I get errors on line 19 and cant get it to > work at all. If you're getting the "not enough goats and chickens sacrificed error", sacrifice more goats and chickens. (Hint - it would help if you told us what the error was, and displayed at least the line the error occurs on and the preceding 10 lines or so) -- Denis McMahon, denismfmcma...@gmail.com -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Mark wrote: > I have successfully installed python 3.3 for windows, pip and livestreamer > that is needed for it to work. What I'm seeing in that script suggests that it actually needs Python 2.7, not 3.3. The best approach would be to make it work with Python 3, but if you can't do that, try installing Python 2. But more generally, when you get errors, it helps *hugely* to copy and paste the error - don't just say "on line 19", and leave us to guess what error you're getting :) ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python, Help to get script working?
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 20:51:59 -0800, Mark wrote: > Hey guys, I found this website that has a script in order to increase > numbers to a live viewing stream. Being new to python, I keep running > into problems trying to get it to work. > > The original site is here, as he talks about how it works. It is the top > article. > > http://www.ericzhang.me/ > > I have successfully installed python 3.3 for windows, Great! But what version of Python is that script written for? [...] > I get errors on line 19 and cant get it to work at all. Errors plural? Multiple errors on one line? That's unusual. Please copy and paste (don't summarise or re-type from memory) the entire traceback showing the full error you get. That is, copy and paste *everything* from the first line Traceback (most recent call last) all the way to the end of the error message. -- Steven -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
New to Python, Help to get script working?
Hey guys, I found this website that has a script in order to increase numbers to a live viewing stream. Being new to python, I keep running into problems trying to get it to work. The original site is here, as he talks about how it works. It is the top article. http://www.ericzhang.me/ I have successfully installed python 3.3 for windows, pip and livestreamer that is needed for it to work. They are in my scripts folder. I either do not understand the script or it no longer works. It is more than likely my error. I get errors on line 19 and cant get it to work at all. The included code is located here https://gist.github.com/Xeroday/6468146/raw/1b7fb468551a4ba5b73ea3c0b7bc47591c3a8c51/Twitch.py If anybody could provide some incite on how to get it to work, how the variables work, and such, I would be so grateful! Mark -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python-- Help
Philippe Martin wrote: > John & Mary Cook wrote: > > > I just installed Python on Windows XP Pro. When I enter 'python' at the > > >>> prompt in Pythonwin IDE I get the following: > > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > >File "", line 1, in ? > > Name Error: name 'python' is not defined > > > > Can anyone help? > > > > Thank you, > > > > J. T. Cook > > Did you install Python, or Pythonwin ? > > Cannot use #2 without #1. He probably used ActivePython. It includes both. Besides PythonWin IDE won't start without Python :-) John: Try this tutorial. It does not assume a programming background. http://honors.montana.edu/~jjc/easytut/easytut/ You already started Python when you started PythonWin IDE. You won't need to type python in it again :-) In the tutorial I linked, PythonWin is analogous to IDLE (another IDE) mentioned in it. You should also have IDLE installed in your menus. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python-- Help
Are you refering to IDLE? or simply running python at the command line? In either case - python is just the language's name. It is not a defined name within the language. If you describe what you are trying to do, perhaps some more specific help could be had. What is happening: There currently is no name in the interpreter called python and it is telling you that Try this. >>> python = "A cool language" >>> python 'A cool language' >>> dir() ['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__name__', 'python'] >>> btw: dir() is a way of getting the currently defined names you could also try this - just to get a feel for the names you can also request the names going down the heirarchy. enter: dir(__doc__) and see what happens. Happy Pythoning. John & Mary Cook wrote: > I just installed Python on Windows XP Pro. When I enter 'python' at the >>> > prompt in Pythonwin IDE I get the following: > > Traceback (most recent call last): >File "", line 1, in ? > Name Error: name 'python' is not defined > > Can anyone help? > > Thank you, > > J. T. Cook -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python-- Help
John & Mary Cook wrote: > I just installed Python on Windows XP Pro. When I enter 'python' at the >>> > prompt in Pythonwin IDE I get the following: > > Traceback (most recent call last): >File "", line 1, in ? > Name Error: name 'python' is not defined > > Can anyone help? > > Thank you, > > J. T. Cook That's because the Pythonwin IDE with the >>> prompt is already running the Python interpreter. The Python interpreter allows you to run python statements and expressions with instant feedback. Python doesn't define the 'python' name inside of itself. I recommend that you read through the Python tutorial, and maybe do a Google search for Python tutorials. When you next see the >>> prompt, try typing in the following: import this print ' '.join( ('Python', 'rocks!') ) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Re: New to Python-- Help
John & Mary Cook wrote: > I just installed Python on Windows XP Pro. When I enter 'python' at the > >>> prompt in Pythonwin IDE I get the following: > > Traceback (most recent call last): >File "", line 1, in ? > Name Error: name 'python' is not defined > > Can anyone help? > > Thank you, > > J. T. Cook Did you install Python, or Pythonwin ? Cannot use #2 without #1. Philippe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
New to Python-- Help
I just installed Python on Windows XP Pro. When I enter 'python' at the >>> prompt in Pythonwin IDE I get the following: Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in ? Name Error: name 'python' is not defined Can anyone help? Thank you, J. T. Cook -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list