Re: SaveAs on macOS Catalina.

2020-05-09 Thread Christian Gollwitzer

Am 09.05.20 um 04:37 schrieb Bev In TX:



On May 8, 2020, at 8:29 PM, Terry Reedy  wrote:

https://bugs.python.org/issue40553


On macOS The default Save/Save as dialogs are short, only displaying a few 
major folders along with Favorites and Recents.  That dialog doesn’t display 
folder contents.  However, you can get an expanded dialog by clicking on the 
little arrow to the right of the Where box.  Using that dialog allows one to 
select any folder and displays folder contents.

I tried using both Save and Save as, and was unable to duplicate the problem 
with either the short or the long dialog.

Python 3.8.2
macOS Catalina 10.15.4


Can it be a problem with the underlying Tk version? If so, it would be 
helpful to isolate the Tk call and convert it to an equivalent Tcl 
script for the core developers to test.


Fairly recently, Tk has got many bugfixes because of changes in OSX. 
Here is the file that implements the file dialogs:


https://core.tcl-lang.org/tk/artifact/d72cdfbcbfaa717f

and the history:

https://core.tcl-lang.org/tk/finfo?name=macosx/tkMacOSXDialog.c=d72cdfbcbfaa717f

As you can see, it has been touched two days ago (!) to restore some 
window behaviour, which was switched of because of Catalina last August 
(this commit)

https://core.tcl-lang.org/tk/info/59b1d265c2444112


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Re: SaveAs on macOS Catalina.

2020-05-08 Thread Bev In TX

> On May 8, 2020, at 8:29 PM, Terry Reedy  wrote:
> 
> https://bugs.python.org/issue40553
> 
> At least a couple of people have had problems using SaveAs from IDLE when 
> running on macOS Catalina.  But Ned Deily cannot reproduce the issue.  I 
> cannot because I have refused the buggy 'upgrade'.  We could use more data.  
> What do other Catalina Python users experience?
> 
> If not an IDLE user, the experiment is easy.
> 
> In terminal:
> $ python3 -m idlelib
> 
> In IDLE:
> File => New
> File => SaveAs
> 
> In the macOS saveas dialog:
> Enter a minimal name that does not match an existing .py name in Documents.  
> Hit [Save] button.  Does the dialog save and close, or does it clear the 
> Document content list and freeze?
> 
> The three Apple apps I looked at, Safari, Maps, and Keynote do not display 
> folder contents.  This might be the problem.  What do other Mac apps do?
That is not the problem.

On macOS The default Save/Save as dialogs are short, only displaying a few 
major folders along with Favorites and Recents.  That dialog doesn’t display 
folder contents.  However, you can get an expanded dialog by clicking on the 
little arrow to the right of the Where box.  Using that dialog allows one to 
select any folder and displays folder contents.  

I tried using both Save and Save as, and was unable to duplicate the problem 
with either the short or the long dialog.

Python 3.8.2
macOS Catalina 10.15.4

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SaveAs on macOS Catalina.

2020-05-08 Thread Terry Reedy

https://bugs.python.org/issue40553

At least a couple of people have had problems using SaveAs from IDLE 
when running on macOS Catalina.  But Ned Deily cannot reproduce the 
issue.  I cannot because I have refused the buggy 'upgrade'.  We could 
use more data.  What do other Catalina Python users experience?


If not an IDLE user, the experiment is easy.

In terminal:
$ python3 -m idlelib

In IDLE:
File => New
File => SaveAs

In the macOS saveas dialog:
Enter a minimal name that does not match an existing .py name in 
Documents.  Hit [Save] button.  Does the dialog save and close, or does 
it clear the Document content list and freeze?


The three Apple apps I looked at, Safari, Maps, and Keynote do not 
display folder contents.  This might be the problem.  What do other Mac 
apps do?


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