Re: What's "the standard" for code docs?

2008-02-20 Thread castironpi
On Feb 20, 4:42 am, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:37:23 -0800, Preston  Landers wrote:
> > On Feb 19, 4:31 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > But after reading some of your other recent posts on other topics, I'm
> > not confident that it was intended to make sense at all.
>
> Have a little bit patience, the bot is still in its early learning phase.  ;-)
>
> Ciao,
>         Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch

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Re: What's "the standard" for code docs?

2008-02-20 Thread Preston Landers
On Feb 20, 2:32 am, Paul McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I use epydoc for pyparsing, and I really like the results.  Just make
> sure that importing your modules doesn't really do anything
> substantial (like connect to db's, or run unit tests that run for
> hours); epydoc imports your code and then introspects it to extract
> the classes, methods, docstrings, etc.

OK thanks for the advice.  We already have a policy of not doing
anything "heavyweight" on module import so in introspection wouldn't
be a problem.

> (And I think you asked an honest question, and did not deserve the
> rude answers you got.  This NG is normally better behaved.)

Yeah I've been lurking a long time.  I've noticed a strange uptick in
weirdness lately. No clue why though.



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Re: What's "the standard" for code docs?

2008-02-20 Thread Paul Boddie
On 20 Feb, 09:32, Paul McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I use epydoc for pyparsing, and I really like the results.  Just make
> sure that importing your modules doesn't really do anything
> substantial (like connect to db's, or run unit tests that run for
> hours); epydoc imports your code and then introspects it to extract
> the classes, methods, docstrings, etc.

Or use the --parse-only option to avoid the introspection.

> (And I think you asked an honest question, and did not deserve the
> rude answers you got.  This NG is normally better behaved.)

Indeed.

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Re: What's "the standard" for code docs?

2008-02-20 Thread Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:37:23 -0800, Preston  Landers wrote:

> On Feb 19, 4:31 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> But after reading some of your other recent posts on other topics, I'm
> not confident that it was intended to make sense at all.

Have a little bit patience, the bot is still in its early learning phase.  ;-)

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Re: What's "the standard" for code docs?

2008-02-20 Thread Paul McGuire
On Feb 15, 10:59 am, Preston  Landers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey guys and gals.  What are all the cool kids using these days to
> document their code?  My goal is to create in-line documentation of
> each package/module/class/method and create some semi-nice looking (or
> at least usable) packaged documentation from it, in HTML and/or PDF
> format.
>
> I've been using effbot's PythonDoc for a while, but it seems like "the
> new standard" (if there is one) is docutils and restructured text
> (ReST.)  Is that accurate?
>
> Just from glancing at some samples of ReST the actual format looks
> much easier to work with in "plain text" in the text editor.
> PythonDoc has not been very popular with my team due to its HTML-ish
> nature and I think ReST will gain more acceptance.  Of course I don't
> want to bother making the jump from PythonDoc to docutils if that
> project is somehow a dead end.
>
> thanks for any info or advice you can provide.
>
> Preston

I use epydoc for pyparsing, and I really like the results.  Just make
sure that importing your modules doesn't really do anything
substantial (like connect to db's, or run unit tests that run for
hours); epydoc imports your code and then introspects it to extract
the classes, methods, docstrings, etc.

(And I think you asked an honest question, and did not deserve the
rude answers you got.  This NG is normally better behaved.)

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Re: What's "the standard" for code docs?

2008-02-20 Thread cokofreedom
On Feb 20, 9:12 am, "Diez B. Roggisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Are people really writing pure HTML snippets in docstrings to document
> > each module/class/method?  For anything other than a toy project?
>
> > One of the main reasons I'm considering moving to epydoc + reST is
> > precisely because it's very un-HTML.
>
> > Mind you I want to be able to produce HTML format docs from the
> > source, but I don't want to actually *put* HTML anywhere near my
> > precious sources.
>
> In the Java-world it *is* pure HTML snipplets... but no, not in python.
>
> Diez

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Re: What's "the standard" for code docs?

2008-02-20 Thread Diez B. Roggisch

> Are people really writing pure HTML snippets in docstrings to document
> each module/class/method?  For anything other than a toy project?
> 
> One of the main reasons I'm considering moving to epydoc + reST is
> precisely because it's very un-HTML.
> 
> Mind you I want to be able to produce HTML format docs from the
> source, but I don't want to actually *put* HTML anywhere near my
> precious sources.

In the Java-world it *is* pure HTML snipplets... but no, not in python.

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Re: What's "the standard" for code docs?

2008-02-19 Thread Preston Landers
On Feb 19, 4:31 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> bash-2.04$ man precious

I understand now that you were referring to unix manual pages, but I'm
afraid I still don't understand what your original reply (man serious)
has to do with anything in particular.

But after reading some of your other recent posts on other topics, I'm
not confident that it was intended to make sense at all.

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Re: What's "the standard" for code docs?

2008-02-19 Thread castironpi
On Feb 19, 4:21 pm, Preston  Landers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Feb 19, 4:16 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > On Feb 19, 4:12 pm, Preston  Landers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 16, 1:56 am, John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Preston Landers wrote:
> > > > > Hey guys and gals.  What are all the cool kids using these days to
> > > > > document their code?
>
> > > >    HTML.  Text-only docs are so last-cen.
>
> > > My sarcasometer is broken today... are you being serious?
>
> > man serious
>
> As opposed to woman serious?
>
> Are people really writing pure HTML snippets in docstrings to document
> each module/class/method?  For anything other than a toy project?
>
> One of the main reasons I'm considering moving to epydoc + reST is
> precisely because it's very un-HTML.
>
> Mind you I want to be able to produce HTML format docs from the
> source, but I don't want to actually *put* HTML anywhere near my
> precious sources.

bash-2.04$ man precious
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Re: What's "the standard" for code docs?

2008-02-19 Thread Tim Chase
HTML.  Text-only docs are so last-cen.
>>> My sarcasometer is broken today... are you being serious?
>> man serious
> 
> As opposed to woman serious?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ man -k serious
serious: nothing appropriate.

-tkc



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Re: What's "the standard" for code docs?

2008-02-19 Thread Preston Landers
On Feb 19, 4:16 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Feb 19, 4:12 pm, Preston  Landers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 16, 1:56 am, John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Preston Landers wrote:
> > > > Hey guys and gals.  What are all the cool kids using these days to
> > > > document their code?
>
> > >HTML.  Text-only docs are so last-cen.
>
> > My sarcasometer is broken today... are you being serious?
>
> man serious

As opposed to woman serious?

Are people really writing pure HTML snippets in docstrings to document
each module/class/method?  For anything other than a toy project?

One of the main reasons I'm considering moving to epydoc + reST is
precisely because it's very un-HTML.

Mind you I want to be able to produce HTML format docs from the
source, but I don't want to actually *put* HTML anywhere near my
precious sources.
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Re: What's "the standard" for code docs?

2008-02-19 Thread castironpi
On Feb 19, 4:12 pm, Preston  Landers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Feb 16, 1:56 am, John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Preston Landers wrote:
> > > Hey guys and gals.  What are all the cool kids using these days to
> > > document their code?
>
> >    HTML.  Text-only docs are so last-cen.
>
> My sarcasometer is broken today... are you being serious?

man serious
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Re: What's "the standard" for code docs?

2008-02-19 Thread Preston Landers
On Feb 16, 1:56 am, John Nagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Preston Landers wrote:
> > Hey guys and gals.  What are all the cool kids using these days to
> > document their code?
>
>HTML.  Text-only docs are so last-cen.

My sarcasometer is broken today... are you being serious?


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Re: What's "the standard" for code docs?

2008-02-15 Thread John Nagle
Preston Landers wrote:
> Hey guys and gals.  What are all the cool kids using these days to
> document their code?  

   HTML.  Text-only docs are so last-cen.

John Nagle
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Re: What's "the standard" for code docs?

2008-02-15 Thread Jeff Schwab
Preston Landers wrote:
> Hey guys and gals.  What are all the cool kids using these days to
> document their code?  My goal is to create in-line documentation of
> each package/module/class/method and create some semi-nice looking (or
> at least usable) packaged documentation from it, in HTML and/or PDF
> format.
> 
> I've been using effbot's PythonDoc for a while, but it seems like "the
> new standard" (if there is one) is docutils and restructured text
> (ReST.)  Is that accurate?
> 
> Just from glancing at some samples of ReST the actual format looks
> much easier to work with in "plain text" in the text editor.
> PythonDoc has not been very popular with my team due to its HTML-ish
> nature and I think ReST will gain more acceptance.  Of course I don't
> want to bother making the jump from PythonDoc to docutils if that
> project is somehow a dead end.

Currently using doxygen.
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Re: What's "the standard" for code docs?

2008-02-15 Thread Torsten Bronger
Hallöchen!

Preston  Landers writes:

> [...]
>
> I've been using effbot's PythonDoc for a while, but it seems like
> "the new standard" (if there is one) is docutils and restructured
> text (ReST.)  Is that accurate?

In my opinion this is true.  And with Epydoc being the best tool for
generating documentation from the source code, Epydoc+reST is the
way to go.

Tschö,
Torsten.

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What's "the standard" for code docs?

2008-02-15 Thread Preston Landers
Hey guys and gals.  What are all the cool kids using these days to
document their code?  My goal is to create in-line documentation of
each package/module/class/method and create some semi-nice looking (or
at least usable) packaged documentation from it, in HTML and/or PDF
format.

I've been using effbot's PythonDoc for a while, but it seems like "the
new standard" (if there is one) is docutils and restructured text
(ReST.)  Is that accurate?

Just from glancing at some samples of ReST the actual format looks
much easier to work with in "plain text" in the text editor.
PythonDoc has not been very popular with my team due to its HTML-ish
nature and I think ReST will gain more acceptance.  Of course I don't
want to bother making the jump from PythonDoc to docutils if that
project is somehow a dead end.

thanks for any info or advice you can provide.

Preston
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