Re: Python deepcopy to while statement

2014-06-12 Thread hito koto
2014年6月13日金曜日 12時47分19秒 UTC+9 hito koto:
> Hi, all
> 
> 
> 
> I want to make the function use while statement,and  without a deepcopy 
> functions.
> 
> 
> 
> this is my use deepcopy  function correct codes, So, how can i to do a 
> different way  and use while statement:
> 
> 
> 
> def foo(x):
> 
> if not isinstance(x, list):
> 
> return x
> 
> return [foo(y) for y in x]


I write this code but this is not copy:
maybe noe more write while statements: but i can't.

def foo(x):
y = []
i = len(x)-1
while i >= 0:
y.append(x[i])
i -= 1
return y
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Re: Python deepcopy to while statement

2014-06-12 Thread hito koto
2014年6月13日金曜日 12時47分19秒 UTC+9 hito koto:
> Hi, all
> 
> 
> 
> I want to make the function use while statement,and  without a deepcopy 
> functions.
> 
> 
> 
> this is my use deepcopy  function correct codes, So, how can i to do a 
> different way  and use while statement:
> 
> 
> 
> def foo(x):
> 
> if not isinstance(x, list):
> 
> return x
> 
> return [foo(y) for y in x]

I write this code but this is not copy:
 maybe have to write one more the while statements: but i can't.
 

 def foo(x):
 y = []> 
 i = len(x)-1
 while i >= 0:
 y.append(x[i])
 i -= 1
 return y
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Python deepcopy to while statement

2014-06-12 Thread hito koto
Hi, all

I want to make the function use while statement,and  without a deepcopy 
functions.

this is my use deepcopy  function correct codes, So, how can i to do a 
different way  and use while statement:

def foo(x):
if not isinstance(x, list):
return x
return [foo(y) for y in x]



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Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread Mark H Harris

On 6/12/14 11:57 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:

def poplist(L):

 done = False
 while done==False:

 yield L[::-1][:1:]
 L = L[::-1][1::][::-1]
 if len(L)==0: done=True


Why not just "while L"?


OK,  here it is with Chris' excellent advice:

>>> def poplist(L):
while L:
yield L[::-1][:1:]
L = L[::-1][1::][::-1]


>>> L=[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]
>>> m=[]
>>> pop = poplist(L)
>>> for n in poplist(L):
m.append(n[0])


>>> m
[7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1]
>>>


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Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread Mark H Harris

On 6/12/14 11:57 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:

On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Mark H Harris  wrote:

Consider this generator variation:


def poplist(L):

 done = False
 while done==False:

 yield L[::-1][:1:]
 L = L[::-1][1::][::-1]
 if len(L)==0: done=True


Why not just "while L"? Or are you deliberately trying to ensure that
cheating will be detectable?


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Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread Mark H Harris

On 6/12/14 11:55 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:

while not done:

Better Python and not bad English, either.


... and taking Marko's good advice, what I think you really wanted:


>>> def poplist(L):
done = False
while not done:
yield L[::-1][:1:]
L = L[::-1][1::][::-1]
if len(L)==0: done=True


>>> L=[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]

>>> m=[]

>>> pop = poplist(L)

>>> for n in poplist(L):
m.append(n[0])

>>> m
[7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1]
>>>

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Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread Marko Rauhamaa

>   while done==False:

Correction:

   while not done:

Better Python and not bad English, either.


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Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Mark H Harris  wrote:
> Consider this generator variation:
>
 def poplist(L):
> done = False
> while done==False:
>
> yield L[::-1][:1:]
> L = L[::-1][1::][::-1]
> if len(L)==0: done=True

Why not just "while L"? Or are you deliberately trying to ensure that
cheating will be detectable?

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Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread Mark H Harris

On 6/11/14 10:12 PM, hito koto wrote:


def foo(x):
 y = []
 while x !=[]:
 y.append(x.pop())
 return y



Consider this generator variation:

>>> def poplist(L):
done = False
while done==False:
yield L[::-1][:1:]
L = L[::-1][1::][::-1]
if len(L)==0: done=True


>>> L1=[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]

>>> for n in poplist(L1):
print(n)

[7]
[6]
[5]
[4]
[3]
[2]
[1]
>>>

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Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread Mark H Harris

On 6/11/14 10:12 PM, hito koto wrote:

i want to change this is code:

def foo(x):
 y = []
 while x !=[]:
 y.append(x.pop())
 return y



Consider this generator (all kinds of permutations on the idea):

>>> L1
[1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]

>>> def poplist(L):
while True:
yield L[::-1][:1:]
L = L[::-1][1::][::-1]


>>> pop = poplist(L1)

>>> next(pop)
[7]
>>> next(pop)
[6]
>>> next(pop)
[5]
>>> next(pop)
[4]
>>> next(pop)
[3]
>>> next(pop)
[2]
>>> next(pop)
[1]
>>> next(pop)
[]
>>> next(pop)
[]


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Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread hito koto
2014年6月12日木曜日 14時43分42秒 UTC+9 Steven D'Aprano:
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:56:06 -0700, hito koto wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > I want to use while statement,
> 
> > 
> 
> > for example:
> 
> >>>> def foo(x):
> 
> > ... y = []
> 
> > ... while x !=[]:
> 
> > ... y.append(x.pop())
> 
> > ... return y
> 
> > ...
> 
> >>>> print foo(a)
> 
> > [[10], [5, 6, 7, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4]]
> 
> >>>> a
> 
> > []   but this is empty
> 
> >>>> so,I want to leave a number of previous (a = [[1, 2, 3, 4],[5, 6, 7,
> 
> >>>> 8, 9],[10]])
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I wouldn't use a while statement. The easy way is:
> 
> 
> 
> py> a = [[1, 2, 3, 4],[5, 6, 7, 8, 9],[10]]
> 
> py> y = a[::-1]
> 
> py> print y
> 
> [[10], [5, 6, 7, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4]]
> 
> py> print a
> 
> [[1, 2, 3, 4], [5, 6, 7, 8, 9], [10]]
> 
> 
> 
> If you MUST use a while loop, then you need something like this:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> def foo(x):
> 
> y = []
> 
> index = 0
> 
> while index < len(x):
> 
> y.append(x[i])
> 
> i += 1
> 
> return y
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> This does not copy in reverse order. To make it copy in reverse order, 
> 
> index should start at len(x) - 1 and end at 0.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Steven

Hi,
Thank you!
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Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-12 Thread hito koto
2014年6月12日木曜日 14時43分42秒 UTC+9 Steven D'Aprano:
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:56:06 -0700, hito koto wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > I want to use while statement,
> 
> > 
> 
> > for example:
> 
> >>>> def foo(x):
> 
> > ... y = []
> 
> > ... while x !=[]:
> 
> > ... y.append(x.pop())
> 
> > ... return y
> 
> > ...
> 
> >>>> print foo(a)
> 
> > [[10], [5, 6, 7, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4]]
> 
> >>>> a
> 
> > []   but this is empty
> 
> >>>> so,I want to leave a number of previous (a = [[1, 2, 3, 4],[5, 6, 7,
> 
> >>>> 8, 9],[10]])
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I wouldn't use a while statement. The easy way is:
> 
> 
> 
> py> a = [[1, 2, 3, 4],[5, 6, 7, 8, 9],[10]]
> 
> py> y = a[::-1]
> 
> py> print y
> 
> [[10], [5, 6, 7, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4]]
> 
> py> print a
> 
> [[1, 2, 3, 4], [5, 6, 7, 8, 9], [10]]
> 
> 
> 
> If you MUST use a while loop, then you need something like this:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> def foo(x):
> 
> y = []
> 
> index = 0
> 
> while index < len(x):
> 
> y.append(x[i])
> 
> i += 1
> 
> return y
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> This does not copy in reverse order. To make it copy in reverse order, 
> 
> index should start at len(x) - 1 and end at 0.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Steven

Hi, Steven:
Thanks,

My goal is to be able to in many ways python

Sorry, I was mistake,
I want to leave a number of previous (a = [[10], [9, 8, 7, 6, 5], [4, 3, 2, 1]] 
)
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Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-11 Thread hito koto
2014年6月12日木曜日 14時43分42秒 UTC+9 Steven D'Aprano:
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:56:06 -0700, hito koto wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > I want to use while statement,
> 
> > 
> 
> > for example:
> 
> >>>> def foo(x):
> 
> > ... y = []
> 
> > ... while x !=[]:
> 
> > ... y.append(x.pop())
> 
> > ... return y
> 
> > ...
> 
> >>>> print foo(a)
> 
> > [[10], [5, 6, 7, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4]]
> 
> >>>> a
> 
> > []   but this is empty
> 
> >>>> so,I want to leave a number of previous (a = [[1, 2, 3, 4],[5, 6, 7,
> 
> >>>> 8, 9],[10]])
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I wouldn't use a while statement. The easy way is:
> 
> 
> 
> py> a = [[1, 2, 3, 4],[5, 6, 7, 8, 9],[10]]
> 
> py> y = a[::-1]
> 
> py> print y
> 
> [[10], [5, 6, 7, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4]]
> 
> py> print a
> 
> [[1, 2, 3, 4], [5, 6, 7, 8, 9], [10]]
> 
> 
> 
> If you MUST use a while loop, then you need something like this:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> def foo(x):
> 
> y = []
> 
> index = 0
> 
> while index < len(x):
> 
> y.append(x[i])
> 
> i += 1
> 
> return y
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> This does not copy in reverse order. To make it copy in reverse order, 
> 
> index should start at len(x) - 1 and end at 0.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Steven

Hi, Steven:
Thanks,

My goal is to be able to in many ways python

Sorry, I was mistake,
I want to leave a number of previous (a = [[10], [5, 6, 7, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4]] 
)
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Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-11 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:56:06 -0700, hito koto wrote:

> I want to use while statement,
> 
> for example:
>>>> def foo(x):
> ... y = []
> ... while x !=[]:
> ... y.append(x.pop())
> ... return y
> ...
>>>> print foo(a)
> [[10], [5, 6, 7, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4]]
>>>> a
> []   but this is empty
>>>> so,I want to leave a number of previous (a = [[1, 2, 3, 4],[5, 6, 7,
>>>> 8, 9],[10]])


I wouldn't use a while statement. The easy way is:

py> a = [[1, 2, 3, 4],[5, 6, 7, 8, 9],[10]]
py> y = a[::-1]
py> print y
[[10], [5, 6, 7, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4]]
py> print a
[[1, 2, 3, 4], [5, 6, 7, 8, 9], [10]]

If you MUST use a while loop, then you need something like this:


def foo(x):
y = []
index = 0
while index < len(x):
y.append(x[i])
i += 1
return y


This does not copy in reverse order. To make it copy in reverse order, 
index should start at len(x) - 1 and end at 0.



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Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:56 PM, hito koto  wrote:
> I want to use while statement,

This sounds like homework. Go back to your teacher/tutor for
assistance, rather than asking us to do the work for you; or at very
least, word your question in such a way that we can help you to learn,
rather than just give you the answer.

Second problem: You're using Google Groups. This makes your posts
messy, especially when you quote someone else's text. Please either
fix your posts before sending them, or read and post by some other
means, such as the mailing list:

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Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-11 Thread hito koto
2014年6月12日木曜日 12時58分27秒 UTC+9 Chris Angelico:
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Vincent Vande Vyvre
> 
>  wrote:
> 
> > Le 12/06/2014 05:12, hito koto a écrit :
> 
> >
> 
> >> Hello,all
> 
> >> I'm first time,
> 
> >>
> 
> >> I want to make a while statement which can function the same x.pop () and
> 
> >> without the use of pop、how can i to do?
> 
> >>
> 
> >> i want to change this is code:
> 
> >>
> 
> >> def foo(x):
> 
> >>  y = []
> 
> >>  while x !=[]:
> 
> >>  y.append(x.pop())
> 
> >>  return y
> 
> >
> 
> > Something like that :
> 
> >
> 
> > def foo(x):
> 
> > return reversed(x)
> 
> 
> 
> That doesn't do the same thing, though. Given a list x, the original
> 
> function will empty that list and return a new list in reverse order,
> 
> but yours will return a reversed iterator over the original list
> 
> without changing it. This is more accurate, but still not identical,
> 
> and probably not what the OP's teacher is looking for:
> 
> 
> 
> def foo(x):
> 
> y = x[::-1]
> 
> x[:] = []
> 
> return y
> 
> 
> 
> If the mutation of x is unimportant, it can simply be:
> 
> 
> 
> def foo(x):
> 
> return x[::-1]
> 
> 
> 
> ChrisA


I want to use while statement,

for example:
>>> def foo(x):
... y = []
... while x !=[]:
... y.append(x.pop())
... return y
...
>>> print foo(a)
[[10], [5, 6, 7, 8, 9], [1, 2, 3, 4]]
>>> a
[]   but this is empty 
>>> so,I want to leave a number of previous (a = [[1, 2, 3, 4],[5, 6, 7, 8, 
>>> 9],[10]])

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Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Vincent Vande Vyvre
 wrote:
> Le 12/06/2014 05:12, hito koto a écrit :
>
>> Hello,all
>> I'm first time,
>>
>> I want to make a while statement which can function the same x.pop () and
>> without the use of pop、how can i to do?
>>
>> i want to change this is code:
>>
>> def foo(x):
>>  y = []
>>  while x !=[]:
>>  y.append(x.pop())
>>  return y
>
> Something like that :
>
> def foo(x):
> return reversed(x)

That doesn't do the same thing, though. Given a list x, the original
function will empty that list and return a new list in reverse order,
but yours will return a reversed iterator over the original list
without changing it. This is more accurate, but still not identical,
and probably not what the OP's teacher is looking for:

def foo(x):
y = x[::-1]
x[:] = []
return y

If the mutation of x is unimportant, it can simply be:

def foo(x):
return x[::-1]

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Re: About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-11 Thread Vincent Vande Vyvre

Le 12/06/2014 05:12, hito koto a écrit :

Hello,all
I'm first time,

I want to make a while statement which can function the same x.pop () and 
without the use of pop、how can i to do?

i want to change this is code:

def foo(x):
 y = []
 while x !=[]:
 y.append(x.pop())
 return y

Something like that :

def foo(x):
return reversed(x)

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Re:About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-11 Thread Dave Angel
hito koto  Wrote in message:
> Hello,all
> I'm first time,
> 
> I want to make a while statement which can function the same x.pop () and 
> without the use of pop、how can i to do?

No idea what the question means. Are you just trying to rewrite
 the loop in a python implementation where pop is broken?
 


> 
> i want to change this is code:
> 
> def foo(x):
> y = []
> while x !=[]:
> y.append(x.pop())
> return y

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About python while statement and pop()

2014-06-11 Thread hito koto
Hello,all
I'm first time,

I want to make a while statement which can function the same x.pop () and 
without the use of pop、how can i to do?

i want to change this is code:

def foo(x):
y = []
while x !=[]:
y.append(x.pop())
return y
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Re: Error invalid syntax while statement

2011-01-08 Thread Terry Reedy



  15 print("counter: ", counter
  16
  17   while (end == 0):  #
<---returns syntax error on this while statement


Among other responses, there is no indent after print.
should be
print()
while x:
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Re: Error invalid syntax while statement

2011-01-07 Thread Garland Fulton
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Chris Rebert  wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Garland Fulton 
> wrote:
> 
> >   1 #!/bin/bash/python
> 
> > What is
> > wrong with my shebang line?
>
> Its path is invalid (unless you're using a *very* weird system).
> /bin/bash is the bash shell executable; bash is completely unrelated
> to Python. Further, /bin/bash is a file, not a directory.
>
> The shebang for Python is normally one of the following:
> #!/usr/bin/env python
> #!/usr/bin/python
>
> Cheers,
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>


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Re: Error invalid syntax while statement

2011-01-07 Thread Chris Rebert
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Garland Fulton  wrote:

>   1 #!/bin/bash/python

> What is
> wrong with my shebang line?

Its path is invalid (unless you're using a *very* weird system).
/bin/bash is the bash shell executable; bash is completely unrelated
to Python. Further, /bin/bash is a file, not a directory.

The shebang for Python is normally one of the following:
#!/usr/bin/env python
#!/usr/bin/python

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Re: Error invalid syntax while statement

2011-01-07 Thread Garland Fulton
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Ned Deily  wrote:

> In article
> ,
>  Garland Fulton  wrote:
> > I don't understand what I'm doing wrong i've tried several different
> cases
> > for what i am doing here. Will someone please point my error out.
>
> >  15 print("counter: ", counter
>
> Missing ")" on line 15.
>
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  1 #!/bin/bash/python
  2 import math
  3 try:
  4 x = int(input("Enter your number: "))
  5 if 0 >  x > 2147483647:
  6 raise Exception()
  7 else:
  8 end = 0
  9 count = 0
 10 count1 = x
 11 counter = 0
 12 print("end: ", end)
 13 print("count: ", count)
 14 print("count1: ", count1)
 15 print("counter: ", counter)
 16
 17   while end == 0:  #
<---returns syntax error on this while statement
 18   if(count < x):
 19
 20   sol = math.pow(count, 2) + math.pow(count1, 2)
 21   count += 1
 22   count1 -= 1
 23   print("end: ", end)
 24   print("count: ", count)
 25   print("count1: ", count1)
 26   print("counter: ", counter)
 27   if sol == x:
 28   counter += x
 29   else:
 30   end = 1
 31 except Exception as ran:
 32print("Value not within range", ran)


  File "blah.py", line 17
while (end == 0):  #
<---returns syntax error on this while statement
^
IndentationError: unexpected indent

Thank you and I'm sorry for the very blind question, it was because of the
missing par-ends  I have spent a while on this won't happen again. What is
wrong with my shebang line?
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Re: Error invalid syntax while statement

2011-01-07 Thread Ned Deily
In article 
,
 Garland Fulton  wrote:
> I don't understand what I'm doing wrong i've tried several different cases
> for what i am doing here. Will someone please point my error out.

>  15 print("counter: ", counter

Missing ")" on line 15.

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Re: Error invalid syntax while statement

2011-01-07 Thread Chris Rebert
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Garland Fulton  wrote:
> I don't understand what I'm doing wrong i've tried several different cases
> for what i am doing here. Will someone please point my error out.
> Thank you.
>
>   1 #!/bin/bash/python

This shebang undoubtedly erroneous.

>   5     if( 0 > x | x > 2147483647):

One normally writes that using boolean "or" rather than the bitwise
operator. Also, the parentheses are completely unnecessary visual
clutter.

>  15         print("counter: ", counter

Where's the closing parenthesis?

>  17               while (end == 0):                              #
> <---returns syntax error on this while statement

Always include the exact error message + traceback in the future.

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Error invalid syntax while statement

2011-01-07 Thread Garland Fulton
I don't understand what I'm doing wrong i've tried several different cases
for what i am doing here. Will someone please point my error out.

Thank you.


  1 #!/bin/bash/python
  2 import math
  3 try:
  4 x = int(input("Enter your number: "))
  5 if( 0 > x | x > 2147483647):
  6 raise Exception()
  7 else:
  8 end = 0
  9 count = 0
 10 count1 = x
 11 counter = 0
 12 print("end: ", end)
 13 print("count: ", count)
 14 print("count1: ", count1)
 15 print("counter: ", counter
 16
 17   while (end == 0):      #
<---returns syntax error on this while statement
 18   if(count < x):
 19
 20   sol = math.pow(count, 2) + math.pow(count1, 2)
 21   count += 1
 22   count1 -= 1
 23   print("end: ", end)
 24   print("count: ", count)
 25   print("count1: ", count1)
 26   print("counter: ", counter
 27   if( sol == x):
 28   counter += x
 29   else:
 30   end = 1
 31 except Exception as ran:
 32print("Value not within range", ran)
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Re: While Statement

2009-05-22 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:33:05 +1000
Joel Ross  wrote:

> changed it to "float(number)/total*100" and it worked thanks for all 
> your help appreciated

I believe operator.truediv function also deserves a mention here, since
line "op.truediv(number, total) * 100" somehow seem to make more sense
to me than an explicit conversion.
There's also "op.itruediv" for "number /= float(total) * 100" case.

http://docs.python.org/dev/library/operator.html

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Re: While Statement

2009-05-22 Thread J. Cliff Dyer
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 09:59 -0400, Dave Angel wrote:
> 
> Tim Wintle wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 13:19 +0200, Andre Engels wrote:
> >   
> >> number/total = 998/999 = 0
> >> number/total*100 = 0*100 = 0
> >> float(number/total*100) = float(0) = 0.0
> >>
> >> Change "float(number/total*100)" to "float(number)/total*100" and it
> >> should work:
> >> 
> >
> > I'd use:
> >
> >  (number * 100.)/total
> >
> > - works because
> >   *  =>  
> >
> > It's a minor thing, but it's much faster to cast implicitly as you miss
> > the python function call overhead - it's no extra work to write, and for
> > numerical things it can really speed things up.
> >
> >   
>  a = timeit.Timer("float(200)/5*100")
>  b = timeit.Timer("(200*100.)/5")
>  a.timeit(1000)
>  
> > 12.282480955123901
> >   
>  b.timeit(1000)
>  
> > 3.6434230804443359
> >
> > Tim W
> >
> >
> >
> >   
> It's the old-timer in me, but I'd avoid the float entirely.  You start 
> with ints, and you want to end with ints.  So simply do the multiply 
> first, then the divide.
> 
>  number * 100/total
> 
> will get the same answer.
> 

Also, to get the same behavior (faster integer division) in python 3 or
when using `from __future__ import division`, use the // division
operator instead of /.

In fact, a little experimentation shows that you get the speedup even
when using python 2.6 with old-style division.  Probably because python
doesn't have to check the types of its arguments before deciding to do
integer division.

>>> a = timeit.Timer("(200 * 100.)/5")
>>> b = timeit.Timer("(200 * 100)/5")
>>> c = timeit.Timer("(200 * 100)//5")
>>> d = timeit.Timer("(200 * 100.0)//5")
>>> for each in a, b, c, d:
... each.timeit()
... 
2.3681092262268066
2.417525053024292
0.81031703948974609
0.81548619270324707


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Re: While Statement

2009-05-22 Thread Tim Wintle
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 09:59 -0400, Dave Angel wrote:
> 
> Tim Wintle wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 13:19 +0200, Andre Engels wrote:

> >> Change "float(number/total*100)" to "float(number)/total*100" and it
> >> should work:
> >> 
> >
> > I'd use:
> >
> >  (number * 100.)/total
> >
> > - works because
> >   *  =>  

> It's the old-timer in me, but I'd avoid the float entirely.  You start 
> with ints, and you want to end with ints.  So simply do the multiply 
> first, then the divide.
> 
>  number * 100/total

Agreed, to be honest I'd not fully read the original post and didn't
realise everything was an int.




> 
> will get the same answer.
> 

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Re: While Statement

2009-05-22 Thread Joel Ross

Dave Angel wrote:



Tim Wintle wrote:

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 13:19 +0200, Andre Engels wrote:
 

number/total = 998/999 = 0
number/total*100 = 0*100 = 0
float(number/total*100) = float(0) = 0.0

Change "float(number/total*100)" to "float(number)/total*100" and it
should work:



I'd use:

 (number * 100.)/total

- works because
  *  => 
It's a minor thing, but it's much faster to cast implicitly as you miss
the python function call overhead - it's no extra work to write, and for
numerical things it can really speed things up.

 

a = timeit.Timer("float(200)/5*100")
b = timeit.Timer("(200*100.)/5")
a.timeit(1000)


12.282480955123901
 

b.timeit(1000)


3.6434230804443359

Tim W



  
It's the old-timer in me, but I'd avoid the float entirely.  You start 
with ints, and you want to end with ints.  So simply do the multiply 
first, then the divide.


number * 100/total

will get the same answer.



Cheers thanks for the support. if it works faster I'll definitely do it
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Re: While Statement

2009-05-22 Thread Dave Angel



Tim Wintle wrote:

On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 13:19 +0200, Andre Engels wrote:
  

number/total = 998/999 = 0
number/total*100 = 0*100 = 0
float(number/total*100) = float(0) = 0.0

Change "float(number/total*100)" to "float(number)/total*100" and it
should work:



I'd use:

 (number * 100.)/total

- works because
  *  =>  


It's a minor thing, but it's much faster to cast implicitly as you miss
the python function call overhead - it's no extra work to write, and for
numerical things it can really speed things up.

  

a = timeit.Timer("float(200)/5*100")
b = timeit.Timer("(200*100.)/5")
a.timeit(1000)


12.282480955123901
  

b.timeit(1000)


3.6434230804443359

Tim W



  
It's the old-timer in me, but I'd avoid the float entirely.  You start 
with ints, and you want to end with ints.  So simply do the multiply 
first, then the divide.


number * 100/total

will get the same answer.

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Re: While Statement

2009-05-22 Thread Tim Wintle
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 13:19 +0200, Andre Engels wrote:
> number/total = 998/999 = 0
> number/total*100 = 0*100 = 0
> float(number/total*100) = float(0) = 0.0
> 
> Change "float(number/total*100)" to "float(number)/total*100" and it
> should work:

I'd use:

 (number * 100.)/total

- works because
  *  =>  

It's a minor thing, but it's much faster to cast implicitly as you miss
the python function call overhead - it's no extra work to write, and for
numerical things it can really speed things up.

>>> a = timeit.Timer("float(200)/5*100")
>>> b = timeit.Timer("(200*100.)/5")
>>> a.timeit(1000)
12.282480955123901
>>> b.timeit(1000)
3.6434230804443359

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Re: While Statement

2009-05-22 Thread Joel Ross

Andre Engels wrote:

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Joel Ross  wrote:


Im using 2.6 python and when running this

class progess():

   def __init__(self, number, total,  char):

   percentage = float(number/total*100)
   percentage = int(round(percentage))
   char = char * percentage
   print char

progess(100, 999,  "*")

the "percentage = float(number/total*100)" always equals 0.0
any ideas way this would be?


You have to make the conversion of integer to float before the
division. What you are calculating now is (take number = 998, total =
999)

number/total = 998/999 = 0
number/total*100 = 0*100 = 0
float(number/total*100) = float(0) = 0.0

Change "float(number/total*100)" to "float(number)/total*100" and it
should work:

float(number) = float(998) = 998.0
float(number)/total = 998.0/999 = 0.99899899899899902
float(number)/total*100 = 0.99899899899899902 * 100 = 99.899899899899902



changed it to "float(number)/total*100" and it worked thanks for all 
your help appreciated


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Re: While Statement

2009-05-22 Thread Andre Engels
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Joel Ross  wrote:

> Im using 2.6 python and when running this
>
> class progess():
>
>    def __init__(self, number, total,  char):
>
>        percentage = float(number/total*100)
>        percentage = int(round(percentage))
>        char = char * percentage
>        print char
>
> progess(100, 999,  "*")
>
> the "percentage = float(number/total*100)" always equals 0.0
> any ideas way this would be?

You have to make the conversion of integer to float before the
division. What you are calculating now is (take number = 998, total =
999)

number/total = 998/999 = 0
number/total*100 = 0*100 = 0
float(number/total*100) = float(0) = 0.0

Change "float(number/total*100)" to "float(number)/total*100" and it
should work:

float(number) = float(998) = 998.0
float(number)/total = 998.0/999 = 0.99899899899899902
float(number)/total*100 = 0.99899899899899902 * 100 = 99.899899899899902



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RE: While Statement

2009-05-22 Thread Andreas Tawn
> Im using 2.6 python and when running this

> 

> class progess():

> 

>  def __init__(self, number, total,  char):

> 

>  percentage = float(number/total*100)

>  percentage = int(round(percentage))

>  char = char * percentage

>  print char

> 

> progess(100, 999,  "*")

> 

> the "percentage = float(number/total*100)" always equals 0.0

 

Try percentage = float(number)/total*100 # The closing bracket position
is the important one

 

The problem is that you're converting to float after the int division
damage has been done.

 

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Re: While Statement

2009-05-22 Thread Joel Ross

Andre Engels wrote:

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Joel Ross  wrote:

Hi all,

I have this piece of code

class progess():

   def __init__(self, number,  char):

   total = number
   percentage = number
   while percentage > 0 :
   percentage = int(number/total*100)
   number-=1
   char+="*"
   print char

progess(999,  "*")

Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on way the percentage var gets set to
the value 0 after the first loop.

Any feed back would be appreciated.


In Python 2.6 and lower, division of two integers gives an integer,
being the result without rest of division with rest:


4/3

1

5/3

1

6/3

2

In your example, the second run has number = 998, total = 999. 998/999
is evaluated to be zero.

There are two ways to change this:
1. Ensure that at least one of the things you are using in the
division is a float. You could for example replace "total = number" by
"total = float(number)" or "number/total*100" by
"float(number)/total*100" or by "(number*100.0)/total".
2. Use Python 3 behaviour here, which is done by putting the import
"from __future__ import division" in your code.




Im using 2.6 python and when running this

class progess():

def __init__(self, number, total,  char):

percentage = float(number/total*100)
percentage = int(round(percentage))
char = char * percentage
print char

progess(100, 999,  "*")

the "percentage = float(number/total*100)" always equals 0.0
any ideas way this would be?
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Re: While Statement

2009-05-22 Thread Joel Ross

Joel Ross wrote:

Hi all,

I have this piece of code

class progess():

def __init__(self, number,  char):

total = number
percentage = number
while percentage > 0 :
percentage = int(number/total*100)
number-=1
char+="*"
print char

progess(999,  "*")

Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on way the percentage var gets 
set to the value 0 after the first loop.


Any feed back would be appreciated.

Regards

jross


Thanks for the quick response and the heads up. Makes sense

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Re: While Statement

2009-05-22 Thread Andre Engels
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Joel Ross  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have this piece of code
>
> class progess():
>
>    def __init__(self, number,  char):
>
>        total = number
>        percentage = number
>        while percentage > 0 :
>            percentage = int(number/total*100)
>            number-=1
>            char+="*"
>            print char
>
> progess(999,  "*")
>
> Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on way the percentage var gets set to
> the value 0 after the first loop.
>
> Any feed back would be appreciated.

In Python 2.6 and lower, division of two integers gives an integer,
being the result without rest of division with rest:

>>> 4/3
1
>>> 5/3
1
>>> 6/3
2
>>>

In your example, the second run has number = 998, total = 999. 998/999
is evaluated to be zero.

There are two ways to change this:
1. Ensure that at least one of the things you are using in the
division is a float. You could for example replace "total = number" by
"total = float(number)" or "number/total*100" by
"float(number)/total*100" or by "(number*100.0)/total".
2. Use Python 3 behaviour here, which is done by putting the import
"from __future__ import division" in your code.


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Re: While Statement

2009-05-22 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Joel Ross  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have this piece of code
>
> class progess():
>
>    def __init__(self, number,  char):
>
>        total = number
>        percentage = number
>        while percentage > 0 :
>            percentage = int(number/total*100)
>            number-=1
>            char+="*"
>            print char
>
> progess(999,  "*")
>
> Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on way the percentage var gets set to
> the value 0 after the first loop.
>

Put in a

from __future__ import division

statement at the start.  You can experiment in the python shell if you'd like.

>>> 2/3
0
>>> from __future__ import division
>>> 2/3
0.3
>>>

This kind of division is the default in Python 3.

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While Statement

2009-05-22 Thread Joel Ross

Hi all,

I have this piece of code

class progess():

def __init__(self, number,  char):

total = number
percentage = number
while percentage > 0 :
percentage = int(number/total*100)
number-=1
char+="*"
print char

progess(999,  "*")

Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on way the percentage var gets 
set to the value 0 after the first loop.


Any feed back would be appreciated.

Regards

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Re: having problems with a multi-conditional while statement

2009-01-07 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen
 "Philip Semanchuk"  wrote:

8< nice explanation 

> Change the "and" to an "or" and you'll get the result you expected.

Also google for "De Morgan", or "De Morgan's laws"

Almost everybody stumbles over this or one of it's
corollaries at least once in their careers.

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Re: having problems with a multi-conditional while statement

2009-01-06 Thread bowman.jos...@gmail.com
Thanks for the assistance. I actually realized I was making things
more complicated than they needed to be and I really only needed one
condition to be met.

On Jan 6, 7:42 pm, Ned Deily  wrote:
> In article
> <40a44d6b-c638-464d-b166-ef66496a0...@l16g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>  "bowman.jos...@gmail.com"  wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > I'm trying to write a multi-conditional while statement, and am having
> > problems. I've broken it down to this simple demo.
>
> > #!/usr/bin/python2.5
>
> > condition1 = False
> > condition2 = False
>
> > while not condition1 and not condition2:
> >     print 'conditions met'
> >     if condition1:
> >         condition2 = True
> >     condition1 = True
>
> > As I understand it, this should print 'conditions met' twice, however,
> > it only prints it once. It seems that once condition1 is made true,
> > the whole thing evaluates as true and stops the while loop.
>
> Are you perhaps expecting that the "while" condition is tested at the
> end of the loop?   It's not; it is tested at the top of the loop, so,
> once the condition evaluates as false, the loop exits.  This can even
> result in zero trips:
>
> >>> while False:
>
> ...     print "never"
> ...
>
>
>
> Unwinding the snippet above:
>
> >>> condition1 = False
> >>> condition2 = False
> >>> not condition1 and not condition2
> True
> >>> if condition1:
>
> ...     condition2 = True
> ...>>> condition1 = True
> >>> not condition1 and not condition2
>
> False
>
> # -> while loop exits after 1 trip
>
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Re: having problems with a multi-conditional while statement

2009-01-06 Thread Ned Deily
In article 
<40a44d6b-c638-464d-b166-ef66496a0...@l16g2000yqo.googlegroups.com>,
 "bowman.jos...@gmail.com"  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to write a multi-conditional while statement, and am having
> problems. I've broken it down to this simple demo.
> 
> #!/usr/bin/python2.5
> 
> condition1 = False
> condition2 = False
> 
> while not condition1 and not condition2:
> print 'conditions met'
> if condition1:
> condition2 = True
> condition1 = True
> 
> 
> As I understand it, this should print 'conditions met' twice, however,
> it only prints it once. It seems that once condition1 is made true,
> the whole thing evaluates as true and stops the while loop.

Are you perhaps expecting that the "while" condition is tested at the 
end of the loop?   It's not; it is tested at the top of the loop, so, 
once the condition evaluates as false, the loop exits.  This can even 
result in zero trips:

>>> while False:
... print "never"
... 
>>> 

Unwinding the snippet above:

>>> condition1 = False
>>> condition2 = False
>>> not condition1 and not condition2
True
>>> if condition1:
... condition2 = True
... 
>>> condition1 = True
>>> not condition1 and not condition2
False

# -> while loop exits after 1 trip

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Re: having problems with a multi-conditional while statement

2009-01-06 Thread Philip Semanchuk


On Jan 6, 2009, at 7:18 PM, bowman.jos...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,

I'm trying to write a multi-conditional while statement, and am having
problems. I've broken it down to this simple demo.

#!/usr/bin/python2.5

condition1 = False
condition2 = False

while not condition1 and not condition2:
   print 'conditions met'
   if condition1:
   condition2 = True
   condition1 = True


As I understand it, this should print 'conditions met' twice, however,
it only prints it once. It seems that once condition1 is made true,
the whole thing evaluates as true and stops the while loop.



Think it through.

At the outset:
while (not condition1) and (not condition2) ==>
while (not False) and (not False) ==>
while True and True ==>
while True

After it's been through the loop once:
while (not condition1) and (not condition2) ==>
while (not True) and (not False) ==>
while False and True ==>
while False


Change the "and" to an "or" and you'll get the result you expected.




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having problems with a multi-conditional while statement

2009-01-06 Thread bowman.jos...@gmail.com
Hi,

I'm trying to write a multi-conditional while statement, and am having
problems. I've broken it down to this simple demo.

#!/usr/bin/python2.5

condition1 = False
condition2 = False

while not condition1 and not condition2:
print 'conditions met'
if condition1:
condition2 = True
condition1 = True


As I understand it, this should print 'conditions met' twice, however,
it only prints it once. It seems that once condition1 is made true,
the whole thing evaluates as true and stops the while loop.

I've also tried to set the while condition the following ways also,
and had the same problem

while (not condition1 and not condition2):
while (not condition1) and (not condition2):
while condition1 != True and condition2 != True:
while (condition1 != True and condition2 != True):
while (condition1 != True) and (condition2 != True):

Can someone lend me a hand in understanding this?

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Re: [perl-python] 20050112 while statement

2005-01-13 Thread Charlton Wilbur
> "b" == brianr  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

b> (As a matter of interest, is this sequence of posts intended to
b> demonstrate ignorance of both languages, or just one?)

Intentional fallacy -- there's no necessary correlation between what
he *intends* to do and what he actually succeeds at doing.  As noted,
Xah *intends* to use his expertise in Perl to teach Python to others.
All he's succeeding in doing is demonstrating his incompetence at
both.  As for myself, I suspect it's just a cunning approach to Let's
You And Him Fight.

Charlton



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Re: [perl-python] 20050112 while statement

2005-01-13 Thread Abigail
Xah Lee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on CLIII September MCMXCIII in
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
..  # here's a while statement in python.
..  
..  a,b = 0,1
..  while b < 20:
..  print b

IndentationError: expected an indented block

..  a,b = b,a+b


You have already proven you don't know Perl, but now it turns
out, you don't know Python either.

Go away.


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Re: [perl-python] 20050112 while statement

2005-01-13 Thread Steven Bethard
Xah Lee wrote:
# here's a while statement in python.
a,b = 0,1
while b < 20:
print b
a,b = b,a+b
---
# here's the same code in perl
($a,$b)=(0,1);
while ($b<20) {
print $b, "\n";
($a,$b)= ($b, $a+$b);
}
Because you're posting this to newsgroups, it would be advisable to use 
only spaces for indentation -- tabs are removed by a lot of newsreaders, 
which means your Python readers are going to complain about 
IndentationErrors.

Personally, I think you should not do this over comp.lang.python (and 
perhaps others feel the same way about comp.lang.perl.misc?)  Can't you 
start a Yahoo group or something for this?  What you're doing is 
probably not of interest to most of the comp.lang.python community, and 
might me more appropriate in a different venue.

Steve
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Re: [perl-python] 20050112 while statement

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Hansen
Steven Bethard wrote:
Xah Lee wrote:
[some Python code]
Because you're posting this to newsgroups, it would be advisable to use 
only spaces for indentation -- tabs are removed by a lot of newsreaders, 
which means your Python readers are going to complain about 
IndentationErrors.
Unfortunately, there are now two ways to post screwed up Python
code, and using tabs is only one of them.
The other is to post from Google Groups, and that's what Xah Lee
is doing.
(The rest of your advice, about going away, is pretty good though. ;-)
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Re: [perl-python] 20050112 while statement

2005-01-13 Thread Peter Maas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
"Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
(As a matter of interest, is this sequence of posts intended to
demonstrate ignorance of both languages, or just one?)
:)
This sequence of posts is intended to stir up a debate just for
the sake of a debate. It's a time sink. It's up to you wether you
want to post to this thread or do something useful. :)
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Re: [perl-python] 20050112 while statement

2005-01-13 Thread brianr
"Xah Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> # here's a while statement in python.
>
> a,b = 0,1
> while b < 20:
> print b
> a,b = b,a+b
>
> ---
> # here's the same code in perl
>
> ($a,$b)=(0,1);
> while ($b<20) {
> print $b, "\n";
> ($a,$b)= ($b, $a+$b);
> }

That python code produces a syntax error:

  File "w.py", line 3
print b
^
IndentationError: expected an indented block

So, not the same then!

(As a matter of interest, is this sequence of posts intended to
demonstrate ignorance of both languages, or just one?)

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witticism just for you.
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Re: [perl-python] 20050112 while statement

2005-01-13 Thread Michael Hoffman
Xah Lee wrote:
# here's a while statement in python.
> [...]
>
# here's the same code in perl
[...]
So?
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[perl-python] 20050112 while statement

2005-01-13 Thread Xah Lee
# here's a while statement in python.

a,b = 0,1
while b < 20:
print b
a,b = b,a+b

---
# here's the same code in perl

($a,$b)=(0,1);
while ($b<20) {
print $b, "\n";
($a,$b)= ($b, $a+$b);
}


 Xah
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 http://xahlee.org/PageTwo_dir/more.html

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