Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac oriented Python book (was: no subject)
I occasionally work with Maya and Renderman in my day job. MEL was one of the reasons why I dropped Maya and started using cgkit (cgkit.sourceforge.net) to interface directly to Renderman. With what little MEL I've done lately, there should be very little 'Mac-specific' issues for using a python engine in Maya. I assume Maya has defined a set of classes for interfacing with their object and texture generation and for the most part, it will look like any other python module from inside the scripting window. I believe even GUI controls are done more through the Maya interface (which then calls the Mac interface). Don't they include any documentation for accessing Python in Maya? (Our site hasn't done the Maya upgrade as yet.) Tom On Jul 11, 2007, at 12:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Actually I am working in: > Maya 8.5(http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index? > siteID=123112&id=7635643) > and Next Limits Real Flow 4(http://www.nextlimit.com/nlscript/) > My interest is in accessing the Python scripting functionality > within these > and > other applications. I am new to Python and programming. I need all > the help I > can get. > > Victor Merritt > > From: Daniel Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2007/07/10 Tue AM 10:35:36 CDT > To: has <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Victor Merritt > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: pythonmac-sig@python.org > Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac oriented Python book (was: no > subject) > > I am guessing that Victor is either interested in scripting Blender > or Modo since those are the only higher-end 3D graphics modeling and > rendering packages I know of that support Python scripting. > I am ruling out Poser and Shade. > > The issue with those packages is that they use an embedded > interpreter so standalone aspects of Python (PyObjC, py2app, > wxPython) are useless in that context as far I have been able to > determine. > I use Modo but have only tinkered with using Python with it. > > On Jul 10, 2007, at 7:53, has wrote: > >> Victor Merritt wrote: >> >>> I am an Visual Effects artist in need of a good Mac oriented Python >>> book. >>> I have been reading the online materials, but I don't always have >>> the time >>> to sit in front of a computer, thus my need for a good Mac focused >>> Python Book. >>> Any suggestions would be very helpful. >> > ___ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > > ___ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac oriented Python book (was: no subject)
On Wednesday, July 11, 2007, at 06:03AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Actually I am working in: >Maya 8.5(http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=7635643) >and Next Limits Real Flow 4(http://www.nextlimit.com/nlscript/) >My interest is in accessing the Python scripting functionality within these >and >other applications. I am new to Python and programming. I need all the help I >can get. I don't know any Mac oriented Python books. My guess is that you don't really need anything mac specific, and there are tons of general Python programming books. Most O'Reilly books are pretty good, so maybe "Learning Python" could help you (http://www.oreillynet.com/catalog/lpython2/) DISCLAIMER: I haven't read this book, or any other introductionary python books. Ronald > >Victor Merritt > >From: Daniel Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2007/07/10 Tue AM 10:35:36 CDT >To: has <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Victor Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: pythonmac-sig@python.org >Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac oriented Python book (was: no subject) > >I am guessing that Victor is either interested in scripting Blender >or Modo since those are the only higher-end 3D graphics modeling and >rendering packages I know of that support Python scripting. >I am ruling out Poser and Shade. > >The issue with those packages is that they use an embedded >interpreter so standalone aspects of Python (PyObjC, py2app, >wxPython) are useless in that context as far I have been able to >determine. >I use Modo but have only tinkered with using Python with it. > >On Jul 10, 2007, at 7:53, has wrote: > >> Victor Merritt wrote: >> >>> I am an Visual Effects artist in need of a good Mac oriented Python >>> book. >>> I have been reading the online materials, but I don't always have >>> the time >>> to sit in front of a computer, thus my need for a good Mac focused >>> Python Book. >>> Any suggestions would be very helpful. >> >___ >Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > >___ >Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > > ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac oriented Python book (was: no subject)
To quote Autodesk/Alias's site: "Python Python, a powerful and accessible scripting language, is now available within Maya. Not only has Python been integrated into the software at the same level as the Maya Embedded Language (MEL), its bindings to the OpenMaya API give you an alternative language for plug-in development. Plus, the Maya Python modules can be imported into an external standalone Python interpreter for batch processing. With its higher-level language constructs, Python supports developer productivity while providing easily maintainable code. The language is also highly extensible, with a broad collection of third-party tools and modules freely available" Wow. MEL has always been the way to script Maya from Day One. I am shocked and surprised they opened up to a standard scripting language. But I think it is great news. Granted I always wondered why these vendors ignored open standard languages in an egotistical rush to do their own, but at least Autodesk/Alias seems to be waking up. That is great news.If only Maya complete wasn't so expensive at $7000...I'd love to have those Navier-Stokes Fluid Dynamics models they showed off in the Perfect Storm. I have sea kayaked in rough Pacific seas a bit and had just a hint of the wrath of the ocean. Those models in that film made it seem real to me. Oh well. On Jul 10, 2007, at 9:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I am working in: Maya 8.5(http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index? siteID=123112&id=7635643) and Next Limits Real Flow 4(http://www.nextlimit.com/nlscript/) My interest is in accessing the Python scripting functionality within these and other applications. I am new to Python and programming. I need all the help I can get. Victor Merritt From: Daniel Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2007/07/10 Tue AM 10:35:36 CDT To: has <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Victor Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: pythonmac-sig@python.org Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac oriented Python book (was: no subject) I am guessing that Victor is either interested in scripting Blender or Modo since those are the only higher-end 3D graphics modeling and rendering packages I know of that support Python scripting. I am ruling out Poser and Shade. The issue with those packages is that they use an embedded interpreter so standalone aspects of Python (PyObjC, py2app, wxPython) are useless in that context as far I have been able to determine. I use Modo but have only tinkered with using Python with it. On Jul 10, 2007, at 7:53, has wrote: Victor Merritt wrote: I am an Visual Effects artist in need of a good Mac oriented Python book. I have been reading the online materials, but I don't always have the time to sit in front of a computer, thus my need for a good Mac focused Python Book. Any suggestions would be very helpful. ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac oriented Python book (was: no subject)
Actually I am working in: Maya 8.5(http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=7635643) and Next Limits Real Flow 4(http://www.nextlimit.com/nlscript/) My interest is in accessing the Python scripting functionality within these and other applications. I am new to Python and programming. I need all the help I can get. Victor Merritt From: Daniel Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2007/07/10 Tue AM 10:35:36 CDT To: has <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Victor Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: pythonmac-sig@python.org Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac oriented Python book (was: no subject) I am guessing that Victor is either interested in scripting Blender or Modo since those are the only higher-end 3D graphics modeling and rendering packages I know of that support Python scripting. I am ruling out Poser and Shade. The issue with those packages is that they use an embedded interpreter so standalone aspects of Python (PyObjC, py2app, wxPython) are useless in that context as far I have been able to determine. I use Modo but have only tinkered with using Python with it. On Jul 10, 2007, at 7:53, has wrote: > Victor Merritt wrote: > >> I am an Visual Effects artist in need of a good Mac oriented Python >> book. >> I have been reading the online materials, but I don't always have >> the time >> to sit in front of a computer, thus my need for a good Mac focused >> Python Book. >> Any suggestions would be very helpful. > ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac oriented Python book (was: no subject)
I am guessing that Victor is either interested in scripting Blender or Modo since those are the only higher-end 3D graphics modeling and rendering packages I know of that support Python scripting. I am ruling out Poser and Shade. The issue with those packages is that they use an embedded interpreter so standalone aspects of Python (PyObjC, py2app, wxPython) are useless in that context as far I have been able to determine. I use Modo but have only tinkered with using Python with it. On Jul 10, 2007, at 7:53, has wrote: > Victor Merritt wrote: > >> I am an Visual Effects artist in need of a good Mac oriented Python >> book. >> I have been reading the online materials, but I don't always have >> the time >> to sit in front of a computer, thus my need for a good Mac focused >> Python Book. >> Any suggestions would be very helpful. > ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac oriented Python book (was: no subject)
Victor Merritt wrote: > I am an Visual Effects artist in need of a good Mac oriented Python > book. > I have been reading the online materials, but I don't always have > the time > to sit in front of a computer, thus my need for a good Mac focused > Python Book. > Any suggestions would be very helpful. I don't think there are any specifically Mac-oriented Python books, but the language and core library is the same on all platforms so any good Python book will do for learning those. Other folks can probably recommend specific titles, though it'd help if you indicate if you're looking for beginner, intermediate or expert material. As far as Mac-specific extensions go, most of the stuff in standard library you should just ignore as being obsolete. Some of the Carbon extensions are still relevant if you need to do Carbon stuff, in which case refer to their docstrings and Apple's Carbon documentation to make sense of those. As for third-party packages, the main three are PyObjC, py2app and appscript, all of which include basic documentation and examples. If using PyObjC you should also refer to Apple's reference and API documentation. If you want a general book for learning Cocoa programming, Aaron Hillegass's 'Cocoa Programming for OS X' is well regarded. If using appscript you should also refer to individual applications' dictionaries and, if provided, supplementary documentation. If you want a general book on AppleScript, get Matt Neuburg's 'AppleScript: The Definitive Guide'. If you want more specific advice, tell us what sort of stuff it is you want to do and what programming skills you already have. HTH has -- http://appscript.sourceforge.net http://rb-appscript.rubyforge.org http://appscript.sourceforge.net/objc-appscript.html ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig
