Re: [Qgis-developer] New Save as... dialog
Hi Paolo! * What do you mean by lot of empty space in the middle here is only a very small stripe * mostly emtpy - it is filled on demand depending on how many options are provided by the format. - try to save as SpatiaLite The only (currently) unfortunate thing is that the More Options button is not shrinking the window again if you press it again .. So once the extended options are opened you should leave them switched on. If anyone has a good idea howto solve it .. suggestions welcome. The original intention was to make the dialog as small as possible and not annoy novice users with extended options they might never need. Per default there should be no need to use the More Options button. Every format should have reasonable defaults now (if not tell me and I am going to change it). I am not 100% happy with that layout either but it was the best we (Matthias and me) could make at that moment. kind regards Werner On 2014-01-15 12:18, Paolo Cavallini wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. I noticed the current dialog for Save as... for vectors should be improved: * there is a lot of empty space in the middle * the More Options button is non-standard, as it opens a side block with panels, mostly empty * IMHO the general appearance should be similar between this dialog and the Save as... for rasters. Should I open a ticket on this? All the best. - -- Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu Corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.eu/training.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlLWbqAACgkQ/NedwLUzIr7KdgCggWG368yvvGW4jm7utShg5KHk rl8An2ypZmnsbC6sbjpFP1hMLPY18Ho3 =zC+w -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] New Save as... dialog
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 16/01/2014 09:57, Werner Macho ha scritto: Hi Paolo! * What do you mean by lot of empty space in the middle here is only a very small stripe * mostly emtpy - it is filled on demand depending on how many options are provided by the format. - try to save as SpatiaLite Hi Werner, I apologize if I sounded too harsh - I did not mean it. Let me explain what I mean: http://www.faunalia.eu/~paolo/vector.png http://www.faunalia.eu/~paolo/raster.png * in vector, after Scale I have some empty space * in raster all options are in collapsible submenus, whereas in vector one should press More options and it finds them on the side; I do not know which solution is better (I incline for the raster one, but I'm not a GUI expert), but I think they should be consistent * CRS selector is different * I see no point in having an empty collapsible box (Datasource Options, Layer Options for Shapefiles) * minor stuff could be made more consistent (e.g. Save as is over the box in vector, and on the side in raster; Capitals should be only for the first word) Thanks! - -- Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu Corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.eu/training.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlLYF0MACgkQ/NedwLUzIr46UACgul5z37BsjDZTF9wakB65xoY1 3OEAoIHZqF3y8NMhlxUgn5CQ1aOqNLM+ =VWI1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] New Save as... dialog
Thanks for bringing this up Paolo! Am 16.01.2014, 18:30 Uhr, schrieb Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it: Let me explain what I mean: http://www.faunalia.eu/~paolo/vector.png http://www.faunalia.eu/~paolo/raster.png * in vector, after Scale I have some empty space * in raster all options are in collapsible submenus, whereas in vector one should press More options and it finds them on the side; I donot know which solution is better (I incline for the raster one, butI'm not a GUI expert), but I think they should be consistent +1 There should definitely be consistency between the vector and raster save as dialogs. Imho, the raster solution where all options are aligned in one column is preferable. I also see quite a big empty area in the left column when I open the vector save as dialog. I can decrease the height of the dialog manually but it jumps back to the bigger size once I open more options. * CRS selector is different In case of CRS selector, I think I prefer the raster solution. Here's why: 1. The raster solution has only one dropdown box where the vector solution needs a dropdown and a text box; 2. The vector solution is confusing because the CRS name in the (greyed out) text box is not updated when the user changes between layer, project, and selected CRS. * I see no point in having an empty collapsible box (Datasource Options, Layer Options for Shapefiles) + 1 for no empty collapsible boxes. * minor stuff could be made more consistent (e.g. Save as is over the box in vector, and on the side in raster; Capitals should be only for the first word) The raster dialog lacks the very useful Add saved file to project checkbox. Another small thing: I don't know about your experience, but I would very much like to have the Add saved file to project checkbox ticked by default. Best wishes, Anita -- anitagraser.com ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] New Save as... dialog
Hi! No problem with harsh .. I did not even understand it in that way :) +1 There should definitely be consistency between the vector and raster save as dialogs. Imho, the raster solution where all options are aligned in one column is preferable. I also see quite a big empty area in the left column when I open the vector save as dialog. I can decrease the height of the dialog manually but it jumps back to the bigger size once I open more options. The more options are usually not needed - it should only be necessary to open it if you know what you are doing. * CRS selector is different In case of CRS selector, I think I prefer the raster solution. Here's why: 1. The raster solution has only one dropdown box where the vector solution needs a dropdown and a text box; 2. The vector solution is confusing because the CRS name in the (greyed out) text box is not updated when the user changes between layer, project, and selected CRS. I agree with the change in the CRS selector .. * I see no point in having an empty collapsible box (Datasource Options, Layer Options for Shapefiles) If GDAL is extended with new options not available in the preselectable options (or you have your own newer version of GDAL installed) there is always the possibility to enter these new options manual in these boxes (sometimes the commands can be quite long - hence the space to overlook the full command). If you know a way of hiding these boxes (again - more options should not be necessary to be opened) it would be nice to make them smaller .. I did find no way. + 1 for no empty collapsible boxes. which will mean that we loose functionality * minor stuff could be made more consistent (e.g. Save as is over the box in vector, and on the side in raster; Capitals should be only for the first word) Thats a thing I will take care of .. The raster dialog lacks the very useful Add saved file to project checkbox. Another small thing: I don't know about your experience, but I would very much like to have the Add saved file to project checkbox ticked by default. Would be nice .. If I find out how I will add it .. regards Werner ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] New Save as... dialog
Am 16.01.2014, 20:15 Uhr, schrieb Werner Macho werner.ma...@gmail.com: If GDAL is extended with new options not available in the preselectable options (or you have your own newer version of GDAL installed) there is always the possibility to enter these new options manual in these boxes (sometimes the commands can be quite long - hence the space to overlook the full command). If you know a way of hiding these boxes (again - more options should not be necessary to be opened) it would be nice to make them smaller .. I did find no way. + 1 for no empty collapsible boxes. which will mean that we loose functionality I think we might not be talking about the same thing here. Check http://www.faunalia.eu/~paolo/vector.png Datasource Options and Layer Options are empty and could be hidden. Custom Options contains two input fields for custom layer and datasource options. Those are fine! Best wishes, Anita -- anitagraser.com ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] New Save as... dialog
Ok .. Now I know what you mean .. Hide it if there is nothing inside.. I see On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Anita Graser anitagra...@gmx.at wrote: Am 16.01.2014, 20:15 Uhr, schrieb Werner Macho werner.ma...@gmail.com: If GDAL is extended with new options not available in the preselectable options (or you have your own newer version of GDAL installed) there is always the possibility to enter these new options manual in these boxes (sometimes the commands can be quite long - hence the space to overlook the full command). If you know a way of hiding these boxes (again - more options should not be necessary to be opened) it would be nice to make them smaller .. I did find no way. + 1 for no empty collapsible boxes. which will mean that we loose functionality I think we might not be talking about the same thing here. Check http://www.faunalia.eu/~paolo/vector.png Datasource Options and Layer Options are empty and could be hidden. Custom Options contains two input fields for custom layer and datasource options. Those are fine! Best wishes, Anita -- anitagraser.com ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
Re: [Qgis-developer] New Save as... dialog
On 17/01/2014, at 02:55 , Anita Graser wrote: The raster dialog lacks the very useful Add saved file to project checkbox. Another small thing: I don't know about your experience, but I would very much like to have the Add saved file to project checkbox ticked by default. +1 from an interested user. Excellent suggestion. Wish I'd made it myself :) -ramon. ___ Qgis-developer mailing list Qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
