Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread Raymond Nijssen

If you open this plugin info page:

https://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/FieldEvaluator/

you will find my email-address in the details tab. Same for all other 
plugins.


Indeed it is not shown in the Plugin Manager, I wasn't aware of that. 
But it is in the metadata.txt file which is downloaded by all users 
together with the plugin. Quite publicly.


Problem with asking plugin developers to subscribe on a plugin ML is 
that a part of them will not read/do it and therefore won't know the 
impact of near future QGIS changes, which is bad for QGIS and many users.


For now, let's ask Paolo in what way he is intended to use this.


On 08-11-15 12:15, DelazJ wrote:

Hi all,
Raymond, I'm not sure plugins authors mail are **publicly** available,
neither on plugins.qgis.org nor in the Plugins Manager. User do not need my
email to reach me about an issue; just report it to a bug tracker (which
everybody should provide). The only persons who have access to name and
mails are QGIS Plugins team admins.
That said, most of us write in this ML with clear emails :)

What might be unclear in Paolo's mail is about a creation of a list. You
already have the mails, what is needed to be created then? Do you need our
acceptance to compile in a database the list of plugins authors and
adresses if this list is only available for the team and not for the
public? I assume this is just to join people easily about their plugins
(evolution).
I'm for a plugin ML and as already stated by some of us, no automatic
adhesion. People should be invited to voluntarily join it thus a list of
mails (at least for the first invitation)


2015-11-08 12:25 GMT+01:00 Raymond Nijssen :


Let us not exaggerate this please.

All plugin developers provide an email address to be contacted in case of
problems/questions. These are publicly available on our website and in our
Plugin Manager application.

Now, because of large changes in our system that will affect all plugins,
the QGIS team wants to send some messages to all plugin developers. This
could be done by hand (adding up all addresses as BCC in an email program)
but it would take up a lot of time. Luckily there is automation, and we can
do this automatically by sending a (bcc!) message to all plugin developers.

What is wrong about saving time this way? I just do not get it.



On 08-11-15 10:49, Tom Chadwin wrote:


I think we should all respect a view held by someone who has voluntarily
created a plugin. My opinion, as a UK data protection officer, is that
this
view is in line with data protection legislation. When I submitted a
plugin,
I was not told that my email address would be used for bulk mailing.

We can change the terms and conditions to make this the case in the
future,
though I would not recommend it. But we cannot use that data for a purpose
for which we did not seek permission.



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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all,

Il 08/11/2015 12:42, Raymond Nijssen ha scritto:

> For now, let's ask Paolo in what way he is intended to use this.

I'm surprised of all this discussion. I think the situation is quite clear:
* we have a problem: major changes in QGIS will break most or all plugins
* we do not want to leave authors alone in dealing with this
* the best solution we thought of is to write announcements and tips to
help them
* we can send a message to 299 addresses, but it is easier and safer if
we use software designed for it, and our good old Mailman seems the
natural solution
* this allows the list of addresses to be kept secret, and to let people
unsubscribe (and eventually subscribe) if they wish.
I frankly do not do not see the issue, sorry.
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread Geo DrinX
let us speak frankly.

I think that the intentions (or temptations) of lists of plugin developers
and the time dedicated to each development can also serve to assess the
total value of the resources that are used in QuantumGIS.

If I'm wrong, correct me.

True or False ?

A presto

Roberto

2015-11-08 11:13 GMT+01:00 Raymond Nijssen :

> I will do the script if someone provides the data.
>
> Raymond
>
>
> On 07-11-15 19:57, Alessandro Pasotti wrote:
>
>> Forgot the instructions:
>>
>> from xmlrpclib import ServerProxy
>> ServerProxy('
>>
>> http://osgeo_user:osgeo_passw...@plugins.qgis.org/plugins/RPC2/').plugin.maintainers(
>> )
>>
>> only administrators can access.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-11-07 19:44 GMT+01:00 Paolo Cavallini :
>>
>> Il 07/11/2015 18:16, Alessandro Pasotti ha scritto:
>>>
>>> Just added an XML-RPC method to export the maintainers emails

 Available at:

 http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/RPC2/

>>>
>>> Thanks Alessandro.
>>> Just for the record: we have now 299 plugin maintainer emails, an
>>> average of 1.8 plugins each.
>>> All the best.
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>>> QGIS & PostGIS courses: http://www.faunalia.eu/training.html
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 11:18:47AM +0100, Geo DrinX wrote:
> let us speak frankly.
> 
> I think that the intentions (or temptations) of lists of plugin developers
> and the time dedicated to each development can also serve to assess the
> total value of the resources that are used in QuantumGIS.
> 
> If I'm wrong, correct me.
> 
> True or False ?

I think you're mixing two different topics here.

 1) setup a mean to talk with the maintainers of all
the plugins registered in the qgis plugin database

 2) estimation of volunteers work

Or I fail to understand your question.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread Raymond Nijssen

Let us not exaggerate this please.

All plugin developers provide an email address to be contacted in case 
of problems/questions. These are publicly available on our website and 
in our Plugin Manager application.


Now, because of large changes in our system that will affect all 
plugins, the QGIS team wants to send some messages to all plugin 
developers. This could be done by hand (adding up all addresses as BCC 
in an email program) but it would take up a lot of time. Luckily there 
is automation, and we can do this automatically by sending a (bcc!) 
message to all plugin developers.


What is wrong about saving time this way? I just do not get it.


On 08-11-15 10:49, Tom Chadwin wrote:

I think we should all respect a view held by someone who has voluntarily
created a plugin. My opinion, as a UK data protection officer, is that this
view is in line with data protection legislation. When I submitted a plugin,
I was not told that my email address would be used for bulk mailing.

We can change the terms and conditions to make this the case in the future,
though I would not recommend it. But we cannot use that data for a purpose
for which we did not seek permission.



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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread Geo DrinX
2015-11-08 11:19 GMT+01:00 Richard Duivenvoorde :

> On 08-11-15 05:58, Geo DrinX wrote:
>
> > I am absolutely countrary to diffuse any list of authors.
> > Certainly in Italy there are rules governing privacy:
> >
> > http://www.garanteprivacy.it/home_en
> >
> > we developers have not given any written agreement that allows anyone to
> > keep a list that concerns us.
> >
> > then you can consider this a warning email to NOT use my personal data
> > for any use.
>
> Geo DrinX,
>
> the whole purpose of this list is to be helpfull, Paolo writes: "I would
> be in favour of creating a readonly mailing list for plugin authors and
> maintainers, in order to contact them all easily when needed."
>
> We (the plugin admins) want to reach out to all plugins devs to give (in
> this case) instructions to migrate the plugins when we migrate to
> Python3. If you do NOT want to be reached in anyway by the psc or plugin
> admins, you should not give an email address when you uploaded the plugin.
>
>


> There is no place for anonymous plugins in our community repo.
>

In fact, I have an eMail, and I am reachable.

I am certainly available to correct the errors of my plugins and so on.

But in so there is no estimate the value of what I write to raise funds.
This is clear.


A presto

Roberto


>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread John Layt
On 8 November 2015 at 08:40, Tom Chadwin  wrote:

> I can only speak about UK legislation. That only allows the use of
> collected
> personal data for purposes explicitly stated at the time of collection. I
> don't believe such permission is sought when plugins are submitted. Are
> there any terms and conditions which bind plugin authors?
>

I would think that listing yourself in the metadata as the author for a
plugin is rather explicitly agreeing to be contacted regarding that plugin,
why else would someone put their email there? I would expect to hear from
the admins on that address, and even from users, and so set an appropriate
address for that purpose.

Personally, I would like to see a proper mailing list for plugin devs, as
neither the users nor developers lists seem quite the right place to be
asking questions or receiving advice on plugin development. Do an initial
mail-out to all the contact addresses telling about the list, but don't
auto-subscribe, that will act as a natural filter on those plugins no
longer actively developed. Then when important milestones arrive in the 3.x
release use the full author list for announcement emails only pointing to
the plugin list or wiki for further details.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 11:24:57AM +0100, Geo DrinX wrote:

> But in so there is no estimate the value of what I write to raise funds.

Could you please rephrase this ? What's your concern, exactly ?

> This is clear.

Not really :)

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 09:27:20AM +, John Layt wrote:

> Personally, I would like to see a proper mailing list for plugin devs, as
> neither the users nor developers lists seem quite the right place to be
> asking questions or receiving advice on plugin development. Do an initial
> mail-out to all the contact addresses telling about the list, but don't
> auto-subscribe, that will act as a natural filter on those plugins no
> longer actively developed. Then when important milestones arrive in the 3.x
> release use the full author list for announcement emails only pointing to
> the plugin list or wiki for further details.

+1, I second this approach.

Additionally, I'd add a note on the bottom of the announcement mails
documenting how to stop receiving them (removing the plugin from the
database or updating its "maintainer" contact, I guess).

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread Raymond Nijssen

I will do the script if someone provides the data.

Raymond


On 07-11-15 19:57, Alessandro Pasotti wrote:

Forgot the instructions:

from xmlrpclib import ServerProxy
ServerProxy('
http://osgeo_user:osgeo_passw...@plugins.qgis.org/plugins/RPC2/').plugin.maintainers(
)

only administrators can access.



2015-11-07 19:44 GMT+01:00 Paolo Cavallini :


Il 07/11/2015 18:16, Alessandro Pasotti ha scritto:


Just added an XML-RPC method to export the maintainers emails

Available at:

http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/RPC2/


Thanks Alessandro.
Just for the record: we have now 299 plugin maintainer emails, an
average of 1.8 plugins each.
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread Richard Duivenvoorde
On 08-11-15 05:58, Geo DrinX wrote:

> I am absolutely countrary to diffuse any list of authors.
> Certainly in Italy there are rules governing privacy:
> 
> http://www.garanteprivacy.it/home_en
> 
> we developers have not given any written agreement that allows anyone to
> keep a list that concerns us.
> 
> then you can consider this a warning email to NOT use my personal data
> for any use.

Geo DrinX,

the whole purpose of this list is to be helpfull, Paolo writes: "I would
be in favour of creating a readonly mailing list for plugin authors and
maintainers, in order to contact them all easily when needed."

We (the plugin admins) want to reach out to all plugins devs to give (in
this case) instructions to migrate the plugins when we migrate to
Python3. If you do NOT want to be reached in anyway by the psc or plugin
admins, you should not give an email address when you uploaded the plugin.

There is no place for anonymous plugins in our community repo.

Regards,

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread Tom Chadwin
I think we should all respect a view held by someone who has voluntarily
created a plugin. My opinion, as a UK data protection officer, is that this
view is in line with data protection legislation. When I submitted a plugin,
I was not told that my email address would be used for bulk mailing. 

We can change the terms and conditions to make this the case in the future,
though I would not recommend it. But we cannot use that data for a purpose
for which we did not seek permission. 



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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Robert,

On Sun, 08. Nov 2015 at 11:24:57 +0100, Geo DrinX wrote:
> In fact, I have an eMail, and I am reachable.
> I am certainly available to correct the errors of my plugins and so on.

> But in so there is no estimate the value of what I write to raise funds.
> This is clear.

I think you're still mixing topics here.  This thread is about setting up a
means to notify plugin developers on changes in QGIS that they will have to
adapt their plugins too (if the want them to work with QGIS 3).

The estimate about how much we depend on volunteer work is a different topic
which doesn't include the plugins at all (except for the effort necessary to
maintain the infrastructure to host the plugins, the plugin installer, core
plugins etc.).


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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread DelazJ
Hi all,
Raymond, I'm not sure plugins authors mail are **publicly** available,
neither on plugins.qgis.org nor in the Plugins Manager. User do not need my
email to reach me about an issue; just report it to a bug tracker (which
everybody should provide). The only persons who have access to name and
mails are QGIS Plugins team admins.
That said, most of us write in this ML with clear emails :)

What might be unclear in Paolo's mail is about a creation of a list. You
already have the mails, what is needed to be created then? Do you need our
acceptance to compile in a database the list of plugins authors and
adresses if this list is only available for the team and not for the
public? I assume this is just to join people easily about their plugins
(evolution).
I'm for a plugin ML and as already stated by some of us, no automatic
adhesion. People should be invited to voluntarily join it thus a list of
mails (at least for the first invitation)


2015-11-08 12:25 GMT+01:00 Raymond Nijssen :

> Let us not exaggerate this please.
>
> All plugin developers provide an email address to be contacted in case of
> problems/questions. These are publicly available on our website and in our
> Plugin Manager application.
>
> Now, because of large changes in our system that will affect all plugins,
> the QGIS team wants to send some messages to all plugin developers. This
> could be done by hand (adding up all addresses as BCC in an email program)
> but it would take up a lot of time. Luckily there is automation, and we can
> do this automatically by sending a (bcc!) message to all plugin developers.
>
> What is wrong about saving time this way? I just do not get it.
>
>
>
> On 08-11-15 10:49, Tom Chadwin wrote:
>
>> I think we should all respect a view held by someone who has voluntarily
>> created a plugin. My opinion, as a UK data protection officer, is that
>> this
>> view is in line with data protection legislation. When I submitted a
>> plugin,
>> I was not told that my email address would be used for bulk mailing.
>>
>> We can change the terms and conditions to make this the case in the
>> future,
>> though I would not recommend it. But we cannot use that data for a purpose
>> for which we did not seek permission.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread John Layt
On 8 November 2015 at 08:40, Tom Chadwin  wrote:

> I can only speak about UK legislation. That only allows the use of
> collected
> personal data for purposes explicitly stated at the time of collection. I
> don't believe such permission is sought when plugins are submitted. Are
> there any terms and conditions which bind plugin authors?
>

In the "I am not a layer" category, it strikes me that it doesn't matter
what the law is in your or my jurisdiction, whether that is the UK or Italy
or the US, what matters is the law in the jurisdiction of the collecting
party at the point(s) of collection and storage? Which for QGIS plugins
would be?

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi

> On 08 Nov 2015, at 20:59, John Layt  wrote:
> 
> On 8 November 2015 at 08:40, Tom Chadwin  > wrote:
> I can only speak about UK legislation. That only allows the use of collected
> personal data for purposes explicitly stated at the time of collection. I
> don't believe such permission is sought when plugins are submitted. Are
> there any terms and conditions which bind plugin authors?
> 
> In the "I am not a layer" category,

Nice GIS faux pas :-)


> it strikes me that it doesn't matter what the law is in your or my 
> jurisdiction, whether that is the UK or Italy or the US, what matters is the 
> law in the jurisdiction of the collecting party at the point(s) of collection 
> and storage? Which for QGIS plugins would be?
> 

QGIS.ORG  as of a week or so from now will be registered in 
Switzerland so I guess Swiss rules will apply. That notwithstanding I think the 
fact that we never had any clear guidance as to how we intended to use email 
addresses added to metadata should make us err on the side of caution: maintain 
the ’non communication’ status quo for existing plugins and mandate that any 
new uploads agree to explicit terms when they upload any new version of their 
plugins.

Regards
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi

> On 08 Nov 2015, at 19:05, Paolo Cavallini  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Il 08/11/2015 12:42, Raymond Nijssen ha scritto:
> 
>> For now, let's ask Paolo in what way he is intended to use this.
> 
> I'm surprised of all this discussion. I think the situation is quite clear:
> * we have a problem: major changes in QGIS will break most or all plugins
> * we do not want to leave authors alone in dealing with this
> * the best solution we thought of is to write announcements and tips to
> help them
> * we can send a message to 299 addresses, but it is easier and safer if
> we use software designed for it, and our good old Mailman seems the
> natural solution
> * this allows the list of addresses to be kept secret, and to let people
> unsubscribe (and eventually subscribe) if they wish.
> I frankly do not do not see the issue, sorry.
> All the best.

My 2c:

I think we should revisit the idea of tiered plugins:

* "wild west plugins" - no approval process beyond the basics of it it can pass 
validation (our current store). It would be accompanied by a cautionary note: 
‘Do not enable this unless you are happy with the the fact that QGIS asserts 
absolutely no confidence in the quality of these plugins.'
* QGIS approved plugins - maintainers *must* to be contactable and willing to 
receive regular correspondence from QGIS as relates to the management of their 
plugin. It would be accompanied by a cautionary note: ‘This plugin does not 
adhere to the coding and style guidelines of QGIS.ORG. Whilst QGIS.ORG provides 
no guarantee that this plugin is safe to use and fit-for-purpose, it has been 
developed by a community member who is generally trusted and has made a 
commitment to maintain the plugin.'
* QGIS recommended plugins - same requirements as in ‘approved plugins’ above, 
plus the plugins must be compliant with coding standards, HIG (human interface 
guideline) standards (so they integrate nicely with QGIS look and feel etc.) 
and the developers are trusted to not insert the odd "rm -rf /“ shell call into 
their scripts. They would be accompanied by a cautionary note like: ‘This 
plugin adheres to the coding and style guidelines of QGIS.ORG. Whilst QGIS.ORG 
provides no guarantee that this plugin is safe to use and fit-for-purpose, it 
has been developed by a community member who is generally trusted and has made 
a commitment to maintain the plugin.'

These classifications would be in addition to the experimental / not 
experimental classification we have (which can apply to any plugin tier above).

Plugin authors should understand that we are placing inherent trust in them and 
taking an inherent risk by distributing their work and making it available on 
the computers of hundreds of thousands of users and they absolutely *must* be 
willing to receive and respond to regular correspondence from us as part of 
that equation. If we have slipped up on making that clear up till now, we need 
fix that. To start with we should put all publishers of existing plugins into 
the ‘wild west’ and they would not be subject to any email distribution so that 
we keep the status quo. Any author of approved and recommended category plugins 
absolutely *must* agree to participate in a broadcast email programme intended 
to inform and advise plugin writers of changes in the QGIS project as pertains 
to plugin writing and management.

Regards




Tim Sutton
QGIS Project Steering Committee Member
t...@qgis.org




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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread geodrinx

> What might be unclear in Paolo's mail is about a creation of a list. You 
> already have the mails, what is needed to be created then? Do you need our 
> acceptance to compile in a database the list of plugins authors and adresses 
> if this list is only available for the team and not for the public? I assume 
> this is just to join people easily about their plugins (evolution).
> I'm for a plugin ML and as already stated by some of us, no automatic 
> adhesion. People should be invited to voluntarily join it thus a list of 
> mails (at least for the first invitation)

+1

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread Tom Chadwin
As discussed before, can we not just have a plugins list like this one?
Voluntary to join, so potentially compliant with data protection
legislation.



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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread Anita Graser
> On Nov 8, 2015 5:58 AM, "Geo DrinX"  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > 2015-11-07 19:16 GMT+01:00 Alessandro Pasotti :
> >>
> >> 2015-11-07 18:29 GMT+01:00 Paolo Cavallini :
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>> I would be in favour of creating a readonly mailing list for plugin
> >>> authors and maintainers, in order to contact them all easily when
> >>> needed. I think this will be especially important for the upcoming
> >>> Python migration, so we can send crucial announcements, suggestions,
etc.
> >>> We can obtain the list of authors and maintainers easily from the
> >>> plugins django app, and ffed it into Mailman as a mass subscription.
> >>> What is more tricky is to synchronize the two. For this we would need
a
> >>> little script, listing members of the ML (list_members nameofthelist)
> >>> diffing, patching, and adding the missing addresses.
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>> So my questions are:
> >>>
> >>> * anybody opposes the creation of the list?
> >
> >
> > I am absolutely countrary to diffuse any list of authors.

I'm not a lawyer but isn't that list already public: authors/contacts are
of course listed on the plugin repo website. Afaik, we are just talking
about using the provided contact information to contact devs concerning
necessary steps towards QGIS 3.0

Best wishes
Anita

>
> > Certainly in Italy there are rules governing privacy:
> >
> > http://www.garanteprivacy.it/home_en
> >
> > we developers have not given any written agreement that allows anyone
to keep a list that concerns us.
> >
> > then you can consider this a warning email to NOT use my personal data
for any use.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Roberto
> >
> >
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-08 Thread Tom Chadwin
I can only speak about UK legislation. That only allows the use of collected
personal data for purposes explicitly stated at the time of collection. I
don't believe such permission is sought when plugins are submitted. Are
there any terms and conditions which bind plugin authors?



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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-07 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 07/11/2015 18:16, Alessandro Pasotti ha scritto:

> Just added an XML-RPC method to export the maintainers emails
> 
> Available at:
> 
> http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/RPC2/

Thanks Alessandro.
Just for the record: we have now 299 plugin maintainer emails, an
average of 1.8 plugins each.
All the best.
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-07 Thread Alessandro Pasotti
Forgot the instructions:

from xmlrpclib import ServerProxy
ServerProxy('
http://osgeo_user:osgeo_passw...@plugins.qgis.org/plugins/RPC2/').plugin.maintainers(
)

only administrators can access.



2015-11-07 19:44 GMT+01:00 Paolo Cavallini :

> Il 07/11/2015 18:16, Alessandro Pasotti ha scritto:
>
> > Just added an XML-RPC method to export the maintainers emails
> >
> > Available at:
> >
> > http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/RPC2/
>
> Thanks Alessandro.
> Just for the record: we have now 299 plugin maintainer emails, an
> average of 1.8 plugins each.
> All the best.
> --
> Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu
> QGIS & PostGIS courses: http://www.faunalia.eu/training.html
>



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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-07 Thread Worth Lutz
Is this a list I might want to be on?  I have no official plugins but am 
creating some custom plugins specific to my users.


Thanks,
*Worth Lutz*


On 11/7/2015 2:57 PM, Alessandro Pasotti wrote:

Forgot the instructions:

from xmlrpclib import ServerProxy
ServerProxy('http://osgeo_user:osgeo_passw...@plugins.qgis.org/plugins/RPC2/').plugin.maintainers( 
)


only administrators can access.



2015-11-07 19:44 GMT+01:00 Paolo Cavallini >:


Il 07/11/2015 18:16, Alessandro Pasotti ha scritto:

> Just added an XML-RPC method to export the maintainers emails
>
> Available at:
>
> http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/RPC2/

Thanks Alessandro.
Just for the record: we have now 299 plugin maintainer emails, an
average of 1.8 plugins each.
All the best.
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-07 Thread Alessandro Pasotti
2015-11-07 18:29 GMT+01:00 Paolo Cavallini :

> Hi all,
> I would be in favour of creating a readonly mailing list for plugin
> authors and maintainers, in order to contact them all easily when
> needed. I think this will be especially important for the upcoming
> Python migration, so we can send crucial announcements, suggestions, etc.
> We can obtain the list of authors and maintainers easily from the
> plugins django app, and ffed it into Mailman as a mass subscription.
> What is more tricky is to synchronize the two. For this we would need a
> little script, listing members of the ML (list_members nameofthelist)
> diffing, patching, and adding the missing addresses.
> So my questions are:
> * anybody opposes the creation of the list?
> * any better solutions to contact authors?
> * anyone willing to write the script?
> Thanks.
> --



Just added an XML-RPC method to export the maintainers emails

Available at:

http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/RPC2/


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Re: [Qgis-developer] Plugin migratin -> mailing list?

2015-11-07 Thread Geo DrinX
2015-11-07 19:16 GMT+01:00 Alessandro Pasotti :

> 2015-11-07 18:29 GMT+01:00 Paolo Cavallini :
>
>> Hi all,
>> I would be in favour of creating a readonly mailing list for plugin
>> authors and maintainers, in order to contact them all easily when
>> needed. I think this will be especially important for the upcoming
>> Python migration, so we can send crucial announcements, suggestions, etc.
>> We can obtain the list of authors and maintainers easily from the
>> plugins django app, and ffed it into Mailman as a mass subscription.
>> What is more tricky is to synchronize the two. For this we would need a
>> little script, listing members of the ML (list_members nameofthelist)
>> diffing, patching, and adding the missing addresses.
>>
>

> So my questions are:
>>
> * anybody opposes the creation of the list?
>>
>
I am absolutely countrary to diffuse any list of authors.
Certainly in Italy there are rules governing privacy:

http://www.garanteprivacy.it/home_en

we developers have not given any written agreement that allows anyone to
keep a list that concerns us.

then you can consider this a warning email to NOT use my personal data for
any use.



Best regards

Roberto
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