Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs

2017-03-08 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang

Hi,
did you already try to backup your .qgis2 folder and then remove it?
When restarting QGIS, this folder will be newly created, though your  
previously downloaded plugins have to be reinstalled then.

Maybe somethings got confused there when updating versions?

But it also looks like something is blocking you internet connection ...

Do not use the OpenLayers plugin, but the better QuickMapServices plugin  
and download the "contributed pack" under Settings/More services.


Cheers
Bernd

Am 07.03.2017, 15:43 Uhr, schrieb Youssra Inat :

Hello,

I contact you because i have currently many problems with qgis 2.18 and  
even qgis 2.14- The menu Processing disapper completly.
- I have also another problem, I could no longer download plugins, and  
the statut of the official repository >is unvailable- last problem: i  
can't use the open layer plugin, before it worked correctly but not now  
it d'ont display any map >(Google, OSM...)


Thank you for helping me.

Best regards





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[Qgis-user] Bugs

2017-03-07 Thread Youssra Inat
Hello,
I contact you because i have currently many problems with qgis 2.18 and even 
qgis 2.14 - The menu Processing disapper completly.- I have also another 
problem, I could no longer download plugins, and the statut of the official 
repository is unvailable - last problem: i can't use the open layer plugin, 
before it worked correctly but not now it d'ont display any map (Google, OSM...)
Thank you for helping me.
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Re: Print Composer Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-09-16 Thread Andreas Neumann
we have a meeting next Thursday and I hope that we can include this in
the next batch of improvements.

Andreas

On 09/16/2011 07:34 AM, Ramon Andiñach wrote:
 
 On 08/06/2011, at 02:47 , Andreas Neumann wrote:
 
 snip
 

 4. I'm also interested in the multicolumn feature.

 the Swiss QGIS users discussed this already. I have to check tomorrow if
 this is already in the pipeline (if we already have a sponsor). Will let
 you know tomorrow.

 Andreas
 
 Hi Andreas,
 
 Did you find this one in the pipeline?
 
 -ramon
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Re: Print Composer Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-09-15 Thread Ramon Andiñach

On 08/06/2011, at 02:47 , Andreas Neumann wrote:

snip

 
 4. I'm also interested in the multicolumn feature.
 
 the Swiss QGIS users discussed this already. I have to check tomorrow if
 this is already in the pipeline (if we already have a sponsor). Will let
 you know tomorrow.
 
 Andreas

Hi Andreas,

Did you find this one in the pipeline?

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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs

2011-07-08 Thread jonathanmoules
HI Alex,
Thanks for that. I actually already have an osgeo account and am 
reminded that it wasn't obvious how to use it previously (I forgot the 
password and it took me a few days to figure out how to get a new one (you 
have to email them)). OSGeo is a very nice idea as a central repository 
kind of thing for their projects, but it would be nice if they'd make it a 
little more user friendly.

Jonathan 


From:   Alister Hood alister.h...@synergine.com
To: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org, jonathanmou...@warwickshire.gov.uk
Date:   07/07/2011 23:33
Subject:Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs



Hi guys,

 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 15:45:39 +0100
 From: jonathanmou...@warwickshire.gov.uk
 Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs
 To: Lee muell...@gmail.com
 Cc: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
 Message-ID:
 OFA65109EA.F31FAC0B-ON802578C6.0050B8DE-802578C6.00511915@LocalDomain
 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 Lee,
 Yep, you're probably right about belonging on the dev list (I'll
 probably do that later when I have the time). I'd have preferred to put
 them (at least the apparently bugs) onto the bugs tracker directly but 
of
 course I can't seem to create an account.

At http://hub.qgis.org/ it says:

Get your account set up¶

To edit content on this site (including creating tickets), you need to get 
an OSGEO login here: http://www.osgeo.org/osgeo_userid;

I guess this would be harder to miss if there was a link at the top right 
next to Sign in though...


Alister




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[Qgis-user] Bugs

2011-07-07 Thread jonathanmoules
Hi Guys,
A few bugs with QGIS 1.7.0. Unfortunately there's no obvious way 
to actually create an account or report bugs on your bug tracker so I'm 
forced to post them here.

1) I have a ~600MB raster in JP2000 format (*.jp2). QGIS doesn't seem to 
be able to load this, at least not in a timely manner. It spent at least 5 
mins sitting there eating 100% CPU and using quite a bit of RAM.
I also have a ~4GB ECW file which similar things happen with. Both files 
are projected (OSGB - 27700) and I'm fairly sure they have pyramids.

MapInfo, ArcGIS, MapModeller (all proprietary), and MapWindow (Open 
Source) are all capable of displaying both images in fractions of a 
second.

This is on a Windows 2008 R2 Machine.

2) I load a shapefile that's projected in British National Grid into QGIS. 
The built in QGIS scale shows degrees rather than metres as the 
measurement unit despite showing 0 to 30,000 numerically (so it is 
showing metres, it's just incorrectly saying degrees. This is to a new 
map that has no other layers added.

3) Why is there a (c) QGIS 2011 in the bottom right of the map viewer? 
99% + of other programs use the Help-About page for that.

Jonathan


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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs

2011-07-07 Thread Andreas Neumann

Hi Jonathan,

I can only partially answer your questions/remarks.


 A few bugs with QGIS 1.7.0. Unfortunately there's no obvious way to
actually create an account or report bugs on your bug tracker so I'm
forced to post them here.


the infrastructure was just changed recently. Did you try on 
http://hub.qgis.org/ - personally I don't know how the accounts are 
handled. The old accounts from trac.osgeo.org were migrated.



1) I have a ~600MB raster in JP2000 format (*.jp2). QGIS doesn't seem
to be able to load this, at least not in a timely manner. It spent at
least 5 mins sitting there eating 100% CPU and using quite a bit of
RAM.
I also have a ~4GB ECW file which similar things happen with. Both
files are projected (OSGB - 27700) and I'm fairly sure they have
pyramids.

MapInfo, ArcGIS, MapModeller (all proprietary), and MapWindow (Open
Source) are all capable of displaying both images in fractions of a
second.


There has been a lot of mail recently about the problems with ecw.

Personally, I would really stay away from proprietary formats like ecw 
and mrsid. You will never know when those companies changed their 
policies and if they care about compatibility with OS GIS. I personally 
use TIFF files (bigtiff files are more or less unlimited in size), and 
you can choose between different compressions in the tiff, like jpeg, 
deflate, zip, packbits, etc. These files usually work fine. I never had 
any issues. Back 2-3 years I also experimented with ecw and always ran 
into issues with software upgrades.


This doesn't mean that the bug should not be fixed, but it is a 
recommendation about storing your data.



2) I load a shapefile that's projected in British National Grid into
QGIS. The built in QGIS scale shows degrees rather than metres as
the measurement unit despite showing 0 to 30,000 numerically (so
it is showing metres, it's just incorrectly saying degrees. This is
to a new map that has no other layers added.


Did you set the projection of your QGIS project? It sounds like this is 
set to WGS84/degrees. Try to set it to your british national grid and it 
will probably work fine.



3) Why is there a (c) QGIS 2011 in the bottom right of the map
viewer? 99% + of other programs use the Help-About page for that.


This is because you probably enabled the Copyright plugin, which is 
not enabled by default, I think. You can easily disable it in the 
plugins manager. The goal of the copyright plugin is not showing the 
QGIS copyright, but your own copyright (e.g. your company). You can 
easily configure it to show your own copyright, or better disable it 
alltogether. For configuration look into the Plugins toolbar and the 
button with the copyright symbol.


Hope this helps,
Andreas


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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs

2011-07-07 Thread Nathan Woodrow
Hi Jonathan,

Regarding the raster, try opening a small one first and going the raster
properties (right click on layer-properties) and turn Contrast Enhancement
to No Stretch. Click the little save button and it will save option for
every raster.

See if that helps .

- Nathan

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:54 PM, jonathanmou...@warwickshire.gov.uk wrote:

 Hi Guys,
 A few bugs with QGIS 1.7.0. Unfortunately there's no obvious way to
 actually create an account or report bugs on your bug tracker so I'm forced
 to post them here.

 1) I have a ~600MB raster in JP2000 format (*.jp2). QGIS doesn't seem to be
 able to load this, at least not in a timely manner. It spent at least 5 mins
 sitting there eating 100% CPU and using quite a bit of RAM.
 I also have a ~4GB ECW file which similar things happen with. Both files
 are projected (OSGB - 27700) and I'm fairly sure they have pyramids.

 MapInfo, ArcGIS, MapModeller (all proprietary), and MapWindow (Open Source)
 are all capable of displaying both images in fractions of a second.

 This is on a Windows 2008 R2 Machine.

 2) I load a shapefile that's projected in British National Grid into QGIS.
 The built in QGIS scale shows degrees rather than metres as the
 measurement unit despite showing 0 to 30,000 numerically (so it is
 showing metres, it's just incorrectly saying degrees. This is to a new map
 that has no other layers added.

 3) Why is there a (c) QGIS 2011 in the bottom right of the map viewer?
 99% + of other programs use the Help-About page for that.

 Jonathan

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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs

2011-07-07 Thread jonathanmoules
Hi Andreas, Nathan
Thanks for the prompt Replies.

 the infrastructure was just changed recently. Did you try on 
http://hub.qgis.org/ - personally I don't know how the accounts are 
handled. The old accounts from trac.osgeo.org were migrated.

This in turn points to the same bugs page. It allows sign in, but 
there's no register button that I can see.

  Personally, I would really stay away from proprietary formats like ecw 
and mrsid.

In principle I agree, but this is one of the few formats that's supported 
across all our applications internally (the other being JP2000), so it's 
what we've put our data into. We can easily convert the data into pretty 
much any raster format at any time as it's almost all sourced from 
Ordnance Survey TIF's, but we'd prefer not to have multiple versions of 
each raster.
JP2000 seems to be a fairly open standard (it's ISO defined), even if it 
doesn't have much uptake.


I've found a smaller ECW file - 27MB. QGIS hangs for a little over a 
minute when loading this. Extrapolating that up to the 4GB file gives 
2.5hrs to load it! QGIS is also using an absurd amount of RAM (~700MB) 
just to display this single layer. ArcMap tells me this file is 260.35 MB 
uncompressed.

However, following Nathan's suggestion, I have disabled the Contrast 
Enhancement, and it is now loading all of the aforementioned rasters just 
fine. It's also not using absurd amounts of RAM. I'd humbly suggest making 
this the default.


  Did you set the projection of your QGIS project? It sounds like this is 
 set to WGS84/degrees. Try to set it to your british national grid and it 
 will probably work fine.

Nope. I'm lazy and used to applications automatically detecting the 
projection of the first layer added and using that for the project (aka 
ArcGIS) ;-) . After some fiddling I found 27700 and it's now correctly 
showing km. But it would be nice if it picked up the projection from the 
first dataset, you can always change it later.



 This is because you probably enabled the Copyright plugin, which is 
not enabled by default, I think.

I haven't changed any of the plugins (or indeed, any settings whatsoever), 
they're all on default. I suspected it was for showing your own copyright, 
but couldn't see it in the options page. Even now that I know where it is 
(plugins), there's no obvious way to change the text, only enable/disable 
it via manage plugins. Not that this is important to me, it's just weird 
having someone else's copyright on my map by default.

Thanks again,

Jonathan



From:   Andreas Neumann a.neum...@carto.net
To: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
Date:   07/07/2011 14:15
Subject:Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs
Sent by:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org



 Hi Jonathan,

 I can only partially answer your questions/remarks.

  A few bugs with QGIS 1.7.0. Unfortunately there's no obvious way to
 actually create an account or report bugs on your bug tracker so I'm
 forced to post them here.

 the infrastructure was just changed recently. Did you try on 
 http://hub.qgis.org/ - personally I don't know how the accounts are 
 handled. The old accounts from trac.osgeo.org were migrated.

 1) I have a ~600MB raster in JP2000 format (*.jp2). QGIS doesn't seem
 to be able to load this, at least not in a timely manner. It spent at
 least 5 mins sitting there eating 100% CPU and using quite a bit of
 RAM.
 I also have a ~4GB ECW file which similar things happen with. Both
 files are projected (OSGB - 27700) and I'm fairly sure they have
 pyramids.

 MapInfo, ArcGIS, MapModeller (all proprietary), and MapWindow (Open
 Source) are all capable of displaying both images in fractions of a
 second.

 There has been a lot of mail recently about the problems with ecw.

 Personally, I would really stay away from proprietary formats like ecw 
 and mrsid. You will never know when those companies changed their 
 policies and if they care about compatibility with OS GIS. I personally 
 use TIFF files (bigtiff files are more or less unlimited in size), and 
 you can choose between different compressions in the tiff, like jpeg, 
 deflate, zip, packbits, etc. These files usually work fine. I never had 
 any issues. Back 2-3 years I also experimented with ecw and always ran 
 into issues with software upgrades.

 This doesn't mean that the bug should not be fixed, but it is a 
 recommendation about storing your data.

 2) I load a shapefile that's projected in British National Grid into
 QGIS. The built in QGIS scale shows degrees rather than metres as
 the measurement unit despite showing 0 to 30,000 numerically (so
 it is showing metres, it's just incorrectly saying degrees. This is
 to a new map that has no other layers added.

 Did you set the projection of your QGIS project? It sounds like this is 
 set to WGS84/degrees. Try to set it to your british national grid and it 
 will probably work fine.

 3) Why is there a (c) QGIS 2011 in the bottom right of the map
 viewer? 99% + of other

Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs

2011-07-07 Thread Lee
I recommend some of your comments for changes/incorporated ideas be directed
to the qgis developer list-serv. This listserv is primarily utilized by
users of the program for quick help and questions. Although I'm sure some of
the developers peruse it .

I agree with Andreas. When it comes to open-source software there can
generally be some issues with proprietary formats. When the formats are
changed, or the distribution arrangements are altered, there is usually some
period of time lapse before they can adequately be adopted. If this is an
issue, I recommend communicating your concerns with those companies that
provide the formats and encourage them to standardize in a fashion that can
easily be utilized by the open source community.

Personally, I generally convert all my ECW's to another format in case the
SDK changes again (which is the problem many users are currently dealing
with).

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:10 AM, jonathanmou...@warwickshire.gov.uk wrote:

 Hi Andreas, Nathan
 Thanks for the prompt Replies.


  the infrastructure was just changed recently. Did you try on
 http://hub.qgis.org/- personally I don't know how the accounts are
 handled. The old accounts from trac.osgeo.org were migrated.

 This in turn points to the same bugs page. It allows sign in, but there's
 no register button that I can see.


   Personally, I would really stay away from proprietary formats like ecw
 and mrsid.

 In principle I agree, but this is one of the few formats that's supported
 across all our applications internally (the other being JP2000), so it's
 what we've put our data into. We can easily convert the data into pretty
 much any raster format at any time as it's almost all sourced from Ordnance
 Survey TIF's, but we'd prefer not to have multiple versions of each raster.
 JP2000 seems to be a fairly open standard (it's ISO defined), even if it
 doesn't have much uptake.


 I've found a smaller ECW file - 27MB. QGIS hangs for a little over a minute
 when loading this. Extrapolating that up to the 4GB file gives 2.5hrs to
 load it! QGIS is also using an absurd amount of RAM (~700MB) just to display
 this single layer. ArcMap tells me this file is 260.35 MB uncompressed.

 However, following Nathan's suggestion, I have disabled the Contrast
 Enhancement, and it is now loading all of the aforementioned rasters just
 fine. It's also not using absurd amounts of RAM. I'd humbly suggest making
 this the default.



   Did you set the projection of your QGIS project? It sounds like this is
  set to WGS84/degrees. Try to set it to your british national grid and it
 will probably work fine.

 Nope. I'm lazy and used to applications automatically detecting the
 projection of the first layer added and using that for the project (aka
 ArcGIS) ;-) . After some fiddling I found 27700 and it's now correctly
 showing km. But it would be nice if it picked up the projection from the
 first dataset, you can always change it later.




  This is because you probably enabled the Copyright plugin, which is
  not enabled by default, I think.

 I haven't changed any of the plugins (or indeed, any settings whatsoever),
 they're all on default. I suspected it was for showing your own copyright,
 but couldn't see it in the options page. Even now that I know where it is
 (plugins), there's no obvious way to change the text, only enable/disable it
 via manage plugins. Not that this is important to me, it's just weird
 having someone else's copyright on my map by default.

 Thanks again,

 Jonathan



 From:Andreas Neumann a.neum...@carto.net
 To:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
 Date:07/07/2011 14:15
 Subject:Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs
 Sent by:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
 --



  Hi Jonathan,

 I can only partially answer your questions/remarks.

   A few bugs with QGIS 1.7.0. Unfortunately there's no obvious way to
  actually create an account or report bugs on your bug tracker so I'm
  forced to post them here.

 the infrastructure was just changed recently. Did you try on
 http://hub.qgis.org/- personally I don't know how the accounts are
 handled. The old accounts from trac.osgeo.org were migrated.

  1) I have a ~600MB raster in JP2000 format (*.jp2). QGIS doesn't seem
  to be able to load this, at least not in a timely manner. It spent at
  least 5 mins sitting there eating 100% CPU and using quite a bit of
  RAM.
  I also have a ~4GB ECW file which similar things happen with. Both
  files are projected (OSGB - 27700) and I'm fairly sure they have
  pyramids.
 
  MapInfo, ArcGIS, MapModeller (all proprietary), and MapWindow (Open
  Source) are all capable of displaying both images in fractions of a
  second.

 There has been a lot of mail recently about the problems with ecw.

 Personally, I would really stay away from proprietary formats like ecw
 and mrsid. You will never know when those companies changed their
 policies and if they care about compatibility

Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs

2011-07-07 Thread jonathanmoules
Hi Both,
Yep, this does it. Thanks.
Jonathan 



From:   uk52rob uk52...@yahoo.co.uk
To: jonathanmou...@warwickshire.gov.uk
Cc: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
Date:   07/07/2011 15:36
Subject:Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs



Jonathan,
 
 I haven't changed any of the plugins (or indeed, any settings 
whatsoever), 
they're all on default. I suspected it was for showing your own copyright, 

but couldn't see it in the options page. Even now that I know where it is 
(plugins), there's no obvious way to change the text, only enable/disable 
it via manage plugins. Not that this is important to me, it's just weird 

having someone else's copyright on my map by default.
 
To change the copyright plugin settings, ensure the ?Plugins? toolbar is 
shown, and this should show a copyright symbol. Click on that and the 
settings will appear.
 
Regards,
 
Rob
 



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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs

2011-07-07 Thread uk52rob
Jonathan,

 

 I haven't changed any of the plugins (or indeed, any settings whatsoever),


they're all on default. I suspected it was for showing your own copyright, 

but couldn't see it in the options page. Even now that I know where it is 

(plugins), there's no obvious way to change the text, only enable/disable 

it via manage plugins. Not that this is important to me, it's just weird 

having someone else's copyright on my map by default.

 

To change the copyright plugin settings, ensure the 'Plugins' toolbar is
shown, and this should show a copyright symbol. Click on that and the
settings will appear.

 

Regards,

 

Rob

 

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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs

2011-07-07 Thread jonathanmoules
Lee,
Yep, you're probably right about belonging on the dev list (I'll 
probably do that later when I have the time). I'd have preferred to put 
them (at least the apparently bugs) onto the bugs tracker directly but of 
course I can't seem to create an account.

Incidentally, the ECW issue wasn't related to ECW's, but was a 
limitation of QGIS and it's default settings (it happened with the open 
JP2's too). Now that I've changed the setting per Nathan's suggestion, 
ECW's are working fine.

Jonathan 



From:   Lee muell...@gmail.com
To: jonathanmou...@warwickshire.gov.uk
Cc: Andreas Neumann a.neum...@carto.net, Nathan Woodrow 
madman...@gmail.com, qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
Date:   07/07/2011 15:27
Subject:Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs



I recommend some of your comments for changes/incorporated ideas be 
directed to the qgis developer list-serv. This listserv is primarily 
utilized by users of the program for quick help and questions. Although 
I'm sure some of the developers peruse it .

I agree with Andreas. When it comes to open-source software there can 
generally be some issues with proprietary formats. When the formats are 
changed, or the distribution arrangements are altered, there is usually 
some period of time lapse before they can adequately be adopted. If this 
is an issue, I recommend communicating your concerns with those companies 
that provide the formats and encourage them to standardize in a fashion 
that can easily be utilized by the open source community.

Personally, I generally convert all my ECW's to another format in case the 
SDK changes again (which is the problem many users are currently dealing 
with). 

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:10 AM, jonathanmou...@warwickshire.gov.uk 
wrote:
Hi Andreas, Nathan
Thanks for the prompt Replies.


 the infrastructure was just changed recently. Did you try on 
http://hub.qgis.org/- personally I don't know how the accounts are 
handled. The old accounts from trac.osgeo.org were migrated.

This in turn points to the same bugs page. It allows sign in, but 
there's no register button that I can see.


  Personally, I would really stay away from proprietary formats like ecw 
and mrsid.

In principle I agree, but this is one of the few formats that's supported 
across all our applications internally (the other being JP2000), so it's 
what we've put our data into. We can easily convert the data into pretty 
much any raster format at any time as it's almost all sourced from 
Ordnance Survey TIF's, but we'd prefer not to have multiple versions of 
each raster.
JP2000 seems to be a fairly open standard (it's ISO defined), even if it 
doesn't have much uptake.


I've found a smaller ECW file - 27MB. QGIS hangs for a little over a 
minute when loading this. Extrapolating that up to the 4GB file gives 
2.5hrs to load it! QGIS is also using an absurd amount of RAM (~700MB) 
just to display this single layer. ArcMap tells me this file is 260.35 MB 
uncompressed.

However, following Nathan's suggestion, I have disabled the Contrast 
Enhancement, and it is now loading all of the aforementioned rasters just 
fine. It's also not using absurd amounts of RAM. I'd humbly suggest making 
this the default.



  Did you set the projection of your QGIS project? It sounds like this is 
 set to WGS84/degrees. Try to set it to your british national grid and it 
will probably work fine.

Nope. I'm lazy and used to applications automatically detecting the 
projection of the first layer added and using that for the project (aka 
ArcGIS) ;-) . After some fiddling I found 27700 and it's now correctly 
showing km. But it would be nice if it picked up the projection from the 
first dataset, you can always change it later.




 This is because you probably enabled the Copyright plugin, which is 
 not enabled by default, I think.

I haven't changed any of the plugins (or indeed, any settings whatsoever), 
they're all on default. I suspected it was for showing your own copyright, 
but couldn't see it in the options page. Even now that I know where it is 
(plugins), there's no obvious way to change the text, only enable/disable 
it via manage plugins. Not that this is important to me, it's just weird 
having someone else's copyright on my map by default.

Thanks again,

Jonathan



From:Andreas Neumann a.neum...@carto.net
To:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
Date:07/07/2011 14:15
Subject:Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs
Sent by:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org




 Hi Jonathan,

I can only partially answer your questions/remarks.

  A few bugs with QGIS 1.7.0. Unfortunately there's no obvious way to
 actually create an account or report bugs on your bug tracker so I'm
 forced to post them here.

the infrastructure was just changed recently. Did you try on 
http://hub.qgis.org/- personally I don't know how the accounts are 
handled. The old accounts from trac.osgeo.org were migrated.

 1) I have a ~600MB raster in JP2000 format

Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs

2011-07-07 Thread Lee
Perfect. Glad that is working for you. It might be worthwhile to mention the
bug tracker issue when you contact the dev list. I've never tried to use it,
but if it's down or difficult to use, it should probably be mentioned.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:45 AM, jonathanmou...@warwickshire.gov.uk wrote:

 Lee,
 Yep, you're probably right about belonging on the dev list (I'll
 probably do that later when I have the time). I'd have preferred to put them
 (at least the apparently bugs) onto the bugs tracker directly but of course
 I can't seem to create an account.

 Incidentally, the ECW issue wasn't related to ECW's, but was a
 limitation of QGIS and it's default settings (it happened with the open
 JP2's too). Now that I've changed the setting per Nathan's suggestion, ECW's
 are working fine.

 Jonathan



 From:Lee muell...@gmail.com

 To:jonathanmou...@warwickshire.gov.uk
 Cc:Andreas Neumann a.neum...@carto.net, Nathan Woodrow 
 madman...@gmail.com, qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
 Date:07/07/2011 15:27

 Subject:Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs
 --



 I recommend some of your comments for changes/incorporated ideas be
 directed to the qgis developer list-serv. This listserv is primarily
 utilized by users of the program for quick help and questions. Although I'm
 sure some of the developers peruse it .

 I agree with Andreas. When it comes to open-source software there can
 generally be some issues with proprietary formats. When the formats are
 changed, or the distribution arrangements are altered, there is usually some
 period of time lapse before they can adequately be adopted. If this is an
 issue, I recommend communicating your concerns with those companies that
 provide the formats and encourage them to standardize in a fashion that can
 easily be utilized by the open source community.

 Personally, I generally convert all my ECW's to another format in case the
 SDK changes again (which is the problem many users are currently dealing
 with).

 On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:10 AM, 
 *jonathanmou...@warwickshire.gov.uk*jonathanmou...@warwickshire.gov.uk
 wrote:
 Hi Andreas, Nathan
 Thanks for the prompt Replies.


  the infrastructure was just changed recently. Did you try on *
 http://hub.qgis.org/* http://hub.qgis.org/- personally I don't know how
 the accounts are handled. The old accounts from 
 *trac.osgeo.org*http://trac.osgeo.org/were
 migrated.


 This in turn points to the same bugs page. It allows sign in, but there's
 no register button that I can see.


   Personally, I would really stay away from proprietary formats like ecw
 and mrsid.

 In principle I agree, but this is one of the few formats that's supported
 across all our applications internally (the other being JP2000), so it's
 what we've put our data into. We can easily convert the data into pretty
 much any raster format at any time as it's almost all sourced from Ordnance
 Survey TIF's, but we'd prefer not to have multiple versions of each raster.
 JP2000 seems to be a fairly open standard (it's ISO defined), even if it
 doesn't have much uptake.


 I've found a smaller ECW file - 27MB. QGIS hangs for a little over a minute
 when loading this. Extrapolating that up to the 4GB file gives 2.5hrs to
 load it! QGIS is also using an absurd amount of RAM (~700MB) just to display
 this single layer. ArcMap tells me this file is 260.35 MB uncompressed.

 However, following Nathan's suggestion, I have disabled the Contrast
 Enhancement, and it is now loading all of the aforementioned rasters just
 fine. It's also not using absurd amounts of RAM. I'd humbly suggest making
 this the default.



   Did you set the projection of your QGIS project? It sounds like this is
  set to WGS84/degrees. Try to set it to your british national grid and it
 will probably work fine.

 Nope. I'm lazy and used to applications automatically detecting the
 projection of the first layer added and using that for the project (aka
 ArcGIS) ;-) . After some fiddling I found 27700 and it's now correctly
 showing km. But it would be nice if it picked up the projection from the
 first dataset, you can always change it later.




  This is because you probably enabled the Copyright plugin, which is
  not enabled by default, I think.

 I haven't changed any of the plugins (or indeed, any settings whatsoever),
 they're all on default. I suspected it was for showing your own copyright,
 but couldn't see it in the options page. Even now that I know where it is
 (plugins), there's no obvious way to change the text, only enable/disable it
 via manage plugins. Not that this is important to me, it's just weird
 having someone else's copyright on my map by default.

 Thanks again,

 Jonathan



 From:Andreas Neumann *a.neum...@carto.net* a.neum...@carto.net
 To:*qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org* qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
 Date:07/07/2011 14:15
 Subject:Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs
 Sent

Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs

2011-07-07 Thread Alex Mandel
On 07/07/2011 07:49 AM, Lee wrote:
 Perfect. Glad that is working for you. It might be worthwhile to mention the
 bug tracker issue when you contact the dev list. I've never tried to use it,
 but if it's down or difficult to use, it should probably be mentioned.


Hub.qgis requires an osgeo account. On the front page, second paragraph:


Get your account set up¶

To edit content on this site (including creating tickets), you need to
get an OSGEO login here: http://www.osgeo.org/osgeo_userid


Thanks,
Alex
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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs

2011-07-07 Thread Alister Hood
Hi guys,

 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 15:45:39 +0100
 From: jonathanmou...@warwickshire.gov.uk
 Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs
 To: Lee muell...@gmail.com
 Cc: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
 Message-ID:
   OFA65109EA.F31FAC0B-ON802578C6.0050B8DE-802578C6.00511915@LocalDomain
 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 Lee,
 Yep, you're probably right about belonging on the dev list (I'll
 probably do that later when I have the time). I'd have preferred to put
 them (at least the apparently bugs) onto the bugs tracker directly but of
 course I can't seem to create an account.

At http://hub.qgis.org/ it says:

Get your account set up¶

To edit content on this site (including creating tickets), you need to get an 
OSGEO login here: http://www.osgeo.org/osgeo_userid;

I guess this would be harder to miss if there was a link at the top right next 
to Sign in though...


Alister
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Re: Print Composer Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-08 Thread Ramon Andinach

On 08/06/2011, at 02:47 , Andreas Neumann wrote:

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 Two for grids:
 1. At times I'd like some options other than solid lines or crosses for grid 
 lines. Probably dashed or dotted lines would do.
 
 this would be probably easy to do.
 
 2. At other times I'd really like an easier way to put up grids in two 
 different projections. I know Micha has some instructions on doing this 
 (http://www.surfaces.co.il/?p=616) but it would be really cool to be able to 
 do it inside the print composer.
 
 probably more work. If you seriously need this, you can ask Marco for an
 offer/estimate how many hours of work. Other people asked for this
 feature as well. So maybe an opportunity to combine financial resources
 for implementing it?
 
 3. I'm noticing that when I browse to a folder with images, the path is 
 reported with \ in the opposite direction to the default set, causing QGIS 
 to loose my added directory. Can anyone else using Windows osgeo install 
 confirm this?
 
 don't have the Windows version at hand currently.

Ok, scrap this one. It's something like this, but isn't quite that simple. It 
might have something to do with bringing in templates with local images on - 
but I'll need to play with it a bit more to see if I can refine it better.

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Re: Print Composer Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-08 Thread Marco Hugentobler
Hi all

Thank you for the feedback. To collect the ideas, please add them to the wiki  
(http://www.qgis.org/wiki/Ideas_for_enhancement_print_composer)


Regards,
Marco

Am Dienstag, 7. Juni 2011, 20.47:04 schrieb Andreas Neumann:
  Two for grids:
  1. At times I'd like some options other than solid lines or crosses for
  grid lines. Probably dashed or dotted lines would do.
 
 this would be probably easy to do.
 
  2. At other times I'd really like an easier way to put up grids in two
  different projections. I know Micha has some instructions on doing this
  (http://www.surfaces.co.il/?p=616) but it would be really cool to be
  able to do it inside the print composer.
 
 probably more work. If you seriously need this, you can ask Marco for an
 offer/estimate how many hours of work. Other people asked for this
 feature as well. So maybe an opportunity to combine financial resources
 for implementing it?
 
  3. I'm noticing that when I browse to a folder with images, the path is
  reported with \ in the opposite direction to the default set, causing
  QGIS to loose my added directory. Can anyone else using Windows osgeo
  install confirm this?
 
 don't have the Windows version at hand currently.
 
  4. I'm also interested in the multicolumn feature.
 
 the Swiss QGIS users discussed this already. I have to check tomorrow if
 this is already in the pipeline (if we already have a sponsor). Will let
 you know tomorrow.
 
 Andreas
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Re: Missing features in print-composer, was: Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-08 Thread Borys Jurgiel
Dnia wtorek, 7 czerwca 2011 o 13:27:39 Andreas Neumann napisał(a):
  Please report the feature requests.

Dnia środa, 8 czerwca 2011 o 14:27:47 Marco Hugentobler napisał(a):
 Thank you for the feedback. To collect the ideas, please add them to the
 wiki (http://www.qgis.org/wiki/Ideas_for_enhancement_print_composer)

Done.
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Re: Missing features in print-composer, was: Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-08 Thread Sindile Bidla
I dont know whether qgis has the ability to create a mapbook - i think this
would be a nice feature to have

On 8 June 2011 16:21, Borys Jurgiel li...@borysjurgiel.pl wrote:

 Dnia wtorek, 7 czerwca 2011 o 13:27:39 Andreas Neumann napisał(a):
   Please report the feature requests.

 Dnia środa, 8 czerwca 2011 o 14:27:47 Marco Hugentobler napisał(a):
  Thank you for the feedback. To collect the ideas, please add them to the
  wiki (http://www.qgis.org/wiki/Ideas_for_enhancement_print_composer)

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Re: Missing features in print-composer, was: Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-08 Thread Andreas Neumann
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On 06/08/2011 06:29 PM, Sindile Bidla wrote:
 I dont know whether qgis has the ability to create a mapbook - i think this
 would be a nice feature to have
 

this is not yet possible, but I think a lot of the functionality to
create such a feature is already present, e.g. the filtered printing in
QGIS server with autozoom to the features.

For the mapbook printing, would the user provide a layer containing all
the mapsheet boundaries and QGIS should loop over all of them? Would all
mapsheet boundaries be of equal size or could there be different sizes?
The former case seems easy to me, but the latter? How should the layout
react if the mapsheets are of different sizes?

Anyway - please add it to the wiki:
http://www.qgis.org/wiki/Ideas_for_enhancement_print_composer

Thanks,
Andreas
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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-07 Thread maning sambale
A gallery showing what you can do with Map Composer would be very
helpful.  Many users (like me) would often discover a new
functionality if there are examples (which is why linifiniti blog is
what I usually visit).

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it wrote:
 I often hear people complain about missing features in the print
 composer, but I think that at the current trunk version it is already
 quite powerful and maybe the people just aren't aware about some
 functionality.



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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-07 Thread Giovanni Manghi

 I have completed a major QGIS project (see Encyclopedic Map of Baghdad 
 at Amazon.com). 

can this be resumed in a case study for the qgis web site?

cheers

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Missing features in print-composer, was: Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-07 Thread Andreas Neumann

Boris,

These sound like reasonable requests and should be implementable. Of 
course someone has to do it or pay for the implementation - but I don't 
see them as overly complex. Also they don't seem more like convenience 
features than problems that prevent proper map layouts.


Please report the feature requests.

Andreas

On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 11:33:10 +0200, Borys Jurgiel wrote:

Dnia wtorek, 7 czerwca 2011 o 07:24:06 Paolo Cavallini napisał(a):
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 05:57:43 +0200, Andreas Neumann 
a.neum...@carto.net


wrote:
 what features specifically in the print composer are missing?

 I often hear people complain about missing features in the print
 composer, but I think that at the current trunk version it is 
already

 quite powerful and maybe the people just aren't aware about some
 functionality.

Agreed. I also had people complaining about map composer being not
powerful enough, but when questioned, I never could get a list of 
missing

features (apart from resizable, multicolumn legends, you're right).
Please let us know what is still missing: the more accurate you are 
the

more chances you have your request will be fulfilled.


1. Multiline text for menu items. Now if you force EOL character, it
works in
the right panel, but not on the sheet.

2. Copy  paste composer items. With many text labels in the layout,
it would
be extremely nice to be able to create just one, set its style and
clone a few
times. In the perfect world, even between two composers.

3. Set options for multiple items. Now if you select two items at 
once, some
tools work on both, but item properties change only the last one. 
Would be

nice to make it working, however probably less cost-effective than
the point 2.

I'll open tickets as soon as I migrate myself to redmine :)
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Re: Print Composer Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-07 Thread Ramon Andinach

On 07/06/2011, at 13:24 , Paolo Cavallini wrote:

 On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 05:57:43 +0200, Andreas Neumann a.neum...@carto.net
 wrote:
 what features specifically in the print composer are missing?
 
 I often hear people complain about missing features in the print
 composer, but I think that at the current trunk version it is already
 quite powerful and maybe the people just aren't aware about some
 functionality.
 
 Agreed. I also had people complaining about map composer being not
 powerful enough, but when questioned, I never could get a list of missing
 features (apart from resizable, multicolumn legends, you're right).
 Please let us know what is still missing: the more accurate you are the
 more chances you have your request will be fulfilled.
 All the best.

I'm going to open this up with, I really like the print composer and that it's 
very easy to use. It's also very quick to generate a good looking plot.

I've a few suggestions, some that might be easier than others.

Two for grids:
1. At times I'd like some options other than solid lines or crosses for grid 
lines. Probably dashed or dotted lines would do.
2. At other times I'd really like an easier way to put up grids in two 
different projections. I know Micha has some instructions on doing this 
(http://www.surfaces.co.il/?p=616) but it would be really cool to be able to do 
it inside the print composer.
3. I'm noticing that when I browse to a folder with images, the path is 
reported with \ in the opposite direction to the default set, causing QGIS to 
loose my added directory. Can anyone else using Windows osgeo install confirm 
this?
4. I'm also interested in the multicolumn feature.

-ramon.

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Re: Print Composer Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-07 Thread Andreas Neumann
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 Two for grids:
 1. At times I'd like some options other than solid lines or crosses for grid 
 lines. Probably dashed or dotted lines would do.

this would be probably easy to do.

 2. At other times I'd really like an easier way to put up grids in two 
 different projections. I know Micha has some instructions on doing this 
 (http://www.surfaces.co.il/?p=616) but it would be really cool to be able to 
 do it inside the print composer.

probably more work. If you seriously need this, you can ask Marco for an
offer/estimate how many hours of work. Other people asked for this
feature as well. So maybe an opportunity to combine financial resources
for implementing it?

 3. I'm noticing that when I browse to a folder with images, the path is 
 reported with \ in the opposite direction to the default set, causing QGIS to 
 loose my added directory. Can anyone else using Windows osgeo install confirm 
 this?

don't have the Windows version at hand currently.

 4. I'm also interested in the multicolumn feature.

the Swiss QGIS users discussed this already. I have to check tomorrow if
this is already in the pipeline (if we already have a sponsor). Will let
you know tomorrow.

Andreas
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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-07 Thread Andreas Neumann
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Hi again,

 After putting a certain amount of objects in a project, print composer
 would lockup. I don't recall exactly how many objects were in the

lockup during composing or during printing? or during export?


 project before it ceased to function but I ended up with about 45,000
 objects in the .svg file. Specifically, when it came time to print or to

The export to SVG and PDF is certainly an area that needs improvements.
But these have to be done in the qt libraries.

 export to file, it would lock up, crash really, with error message. The
 other thing was the way it handles polylines. I was trying to make
 highway polylines render correctly but there was a difference between
 what was seen on screen and what was actually printed. The polyline

this is a known issue. The preview in the print composer is not WYSYWIG.
The extent and scale is correct, but the dpi is not. I believe this is
already in the pipeline and we have a sponsor to improve it so we can
have WYSYWIG preview regarding line widths, font-sizes, etc.


 widths on screen were scaled too large compared to what I was actually
 trying to do. When printed I noticed they printed correctly. Getting the
 endpoints and intersections of two polylines to merge correctly didn't
 work either. I was trying to represent complex interchanges at the
 intersection of two highways with on-ramps etc. Couldn't do it. Polyline

This is probably more a symbology issue than a print composer issue? I
am not sure I fully understand your problem.

 patterns are clumsy and difficult to set to useful patterns. Setting a

Do you mean the SVG patterns? The SVG patterns could be exported from
Inkscape. I am pretty sure there are pattern libraries in a PDF/EPS
compatible format which could be converted to SVG. Also ttf-fonts with
patterns could be converted to SVG. One issue with SVG is that you can't
easily override colors without copying the pattern definition. This
problem will be dealt with in the medium future.


 scale is difficult. Maybe a wizard would help setting scale. Labeling is

perhaps this could be solved when the WYSYWIG printing is available?

 an issue. With tens of thousands of objects producing a clearly labeled
 print becomes a problem. It was tough even in Inkscape. Sometimes labels

did you try the new label engine where you can mix automated labeling
with manual labeling? Should make your live easier. It is also a
question whether you define your labels for a certain scale (with
font-sizes as map units) or with fixed font-sizes regardless of the zoom
factor.


 had to broken down into objects and each letter manipulated manually to
 make them appear in a readable fashion. I never really did figure out

letterspacing is perhaps something that is missing currently.


 the labeling to my satisfaction but in the end just went with what I
 had, compromising just to get something out the door. The biggest
 problem though was print composer locking up while printing after I had
 all my coverages turned on. Perhaps a memory issue? I had 4gb of ram,
 not enough? I have bigger projects in mind and I'm not sure even
 Inkscape will be able to handle what I want to do.

Inkscape certainly has its limits - after all it is not a GIS or
cartographic software. GIS on the other hand should be able to deal with
larger data sets. If it can't, it is a bug and should be resolved. Can
you make your data sets/projects available to Marco Hugentobler or
others for testing?

Andreas
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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-07 Thread .
I can see that several of my concerns with composer are being addressed. 
I suspected that some of the problems were with libraries. QGIS, 
Inkscape, and GIMP have trouble printing my files (svg, ps, pdf).

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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-06 Thread Thomas Wahlmüller
Hi

I think the problem arises because many people already used QGIS 1.7.
Now user have the choice to use 1.6 (missing new features, maybe needed)
or 1.8 (more bugs) (at least at windows). Maybe it could be useful to
split Development Branch into two parts. QGIS would be providing three
Versions. Users could use a stable version, a relative stable
Development Branch (1.7) while Developers are working on next Version at
Nightly.

Stable: nearly bug free, ?LTS?
^
|Solving Bugs
|
Development: No Blocking Bugs
^
|   
|
Nightly: Place for new Features, Solving major Bugs

regards
thomas

Am 05.06.2011 13:19, schrieb Noli Sicad:
 Hi,

 I think it would be better to release QGIS 1.7 as RC (release
 candidate). QGIS 1.7RC for now, then it all the major bugs are fixed
 release QGIS 1.7. Beta is not really good when QGIS has releasing
 several version of QGIS. Beta is not a good word in my opinion. It
 denotes that the software is really buggy ;-).

 Noli

 On 6/5/11, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote:
 Hi

 We have had discussions like this in the past. Unfortunately the word
 'beta' in software is so overused it has become largely meaningless.
 Google mail was in beta for many years and many people used it in a
 production environment in that time. Our standard policy with QGIS is
 'Here is a current snapshot of our best work. Try it and if it meets
 your needs use it.' All previous versions of QGIS are kept in
 circulation so if you do have a major issue with 1.7, file a bug, keep
 using 1.6, sit tight and wait for the 1.7.x bug fix releases which
 will come out.

 Regards

 Tim

 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it
 wrote:
 Il 05/06/2011 01:06, Goyo ha scritto:

 workflow. OTOH I also think many bugs in the linked report are not
 really must fix for release.
 Sounds reasonable.
 So please help us reclassifying these cases.
 Thanks.

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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-06 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi Thomas

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Thomas Wahlmüller
thomas.wahlmuel...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hi

 I think the problem arises because many people already used QGIS 1.7.
 Now user have the choice to use 1.6 (missing new features, maybe needed)
 or 1.8 (more bugs) (at least at windows). Maybe it could be useful to
 split Development Branch into two parts. QGIS would be providing three
 Versions. Users could use a stable version, a relative stable
 Development Branch (1.7) while Developers are working on next Version at
 Nightly.

 Stable: nearly bug free, ?LTS?
    ^
    |    Solving Bugs
    |
 Development: No Blocking Bugs
    ^
    |
    |
 Nightly: Place for new Features, Solving major Bugs

 regards
 thomas


We've tried all these things and many other permutations. The releases
of QGIS need to be tempered with the realities of life: we don't have
the developers to maintain all these different things. I have agreed
to maintain the 1.7 branch with backported bug fixes (for eventual
1.7.x releases) as trunk marches towards 2.0 and thats already eating
into the time I would otherwise spend on development work. The same is
true with other developers - none of us work full time on the project
and we have to snatch hours to work on it here and there where we can.
So while I would love to see LTS, no bugs etc., the project can't
sustain it at the moment.

Regards

Tim

 Am 05.06.2011 13:19, schrieb Noli Sicad:
 Hi,

 I think it would be better to release QGIS 1.7 as RC (release
 candidate). QGIS 1.7RC for now, then it all the major bugs are fixed
 release QGIS 1.7. Beta is not really good when QGIS has releasing
 several version of QGIS. Beta is not a good word in my opinion. It
 denotes that the software is really buggy ;-).

 Noli

 On 6/5/11, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote:
 Hi

 We have had discussions like this in the past. Unfortunately the word
 'beta' in software is so overused it has become largely meaningless.
 Google mail was in beta for many years and many people used it in a
 production environment in that time. Our standard policy with QGIS is
 'Here is a current snapshot of our best work. Try it and if it meets
 your needs use it.' All previous versions of QGIS are kept in
 circulation so if you do have a major issue with 1.7, file a bug, keep
 using 1.6, sit tight and wait for the 1.7.x bug fix releases which
 will come out.

 Regards

 Tim

 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it
 wrote:
 Il 05/06/2011 01:06, Goyo ha scritto:

 workflow. OTOH I also think many bugs in the linked report are not
 really must fix for release.
 Sounds reasonable.
 So please help us reclassifying these cases.
 Thanks.

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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-06 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 06/06/2011 14:08, Tim Sutton ha scritto:

 So while I would love to see LTS, no bugs etc., the project can't
 sustain it at the moment.

Exactly: users, it's time for you all (or at least those who work with QGIS) to 
stand
up and help the development team finding new developers and maintainers of 
various
aspects of the infrastructure. QGIS has grown a lot in terms of lines of code,
functions, power, infrastructure complexity, requests from users, and the team 
is
essentially the same. We need more people to keep on progressing at an 
increasing speed.
There are many different ways of helping, please consider them: it is in our 
communal
interest (yes, also yours).
All the best.
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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-06 Thread .

On 6/6/2011 7:49 AM, Paolo Cavallini wrote:

Il 06/06/2011 14:08, Tim Sutton ha scritto:


So while I would love to see LTS, no bugs etc., the project can't
sustain it at the moment.

Exactly: users, it's time for you all (or at least those who work with QGIS) to 
stand
up and help the development team finding new developers and maintainers of 
various
aspects of the infrastructure. QGIS has grown a lot in terms of lines of code,
functions, power, infrastructure complexity, requests from users, and the team 
is
essentially the same. We need more people to keep on progressing at an 
increasing speed.
There are many different ways of helping, please consider them: it is in our 
communal
interest (yes, also yours).
All the best.

What major features remain to be finished?
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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-06 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 06/06/2011 15:15, . ha scritto:

 What major features remain to be finished?

Major features are never finished, by definition ;)
New ideas are coming regularly.
What is needed now is, IMHO:
- bigfixing
- bugfixing ;)
- automatic testing
- polishing (symbology and other stuff)
- infrastructure (central repo for plugins, styles, symbols, with user rating 
and
comments, etc.).
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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-06 Thread .

On 6/6/2011 7:49 AM, Paolo Cavallini wrote:

Il 06/06/2011 14:08, Tim Sutton ha scritto:


So while I would love to see LTS, no bugs etc., the project can't
sustain it at the moment.

Exactly: users, it's time for you all (or at least those who work with QGIS) to 
stand
up and help the development team finding new developers and maintainers of 
various
aspects of the infrastructure. QGIS has grown a lot in terms of lines of code,
functions, power, infrastructure complexity, requests from users, and the team 
is
essentially the same. We need more people to keep on progressing at an 
increasing speed.
There are many different ways of helping, please consider them: it is in our 
communal
interest (yes, also yours).
All the best.

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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-06 Thread Andreas Neumann
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Hi,

Thank you for your interesting report. Sounds like a lot of work - the
digitizing! Interesting to hear that a rotated view would be useful for
digitizing.

What I would wonder:

what features specifically in the print composer are missing?

I often hear people complain about missing features in the print
composer, but I think that at the current trunk version it is already
quite powerful and maybe the people just aren't aware about some
functionality. I think that e.g. the legend is already quite powerful,
the only thing missing is maybe a multi-column mode. You can draw lines,
arrows, circles, rectangles. You can set text labels, import graphics.
The grid lines and scalebars are quite complete.

What specifically is currently missing in the print composer?

Thanks,
Andreas

On 06/06/2011 11:41 PM, . wrote:
 On 6/6/2011 8:18 AM, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
 Il 06/06/2011 15:15, . ha scritto:

 What major features remain to be finished?
 Major features are never finished, by definition ;)
 New ideas are coming regularly.
 What is needed now is, IMHO:
 - bigfixing
 - bugfixing ;)
 - automatic testing
 - polishing (symbology and other stuff)
 - infrastructure (central repo for plugins, styles, symbols, with user
 rating and
 comments, etc.).
 All the best.
 I have completed a major QGIS project (see Encyclopedic Map of Baghdad
 at Amazon.com). I found that the map composer module wasn't strong
 enough for my needs. I exported each layer to Inkscape and did my final
 composition by hand. The only other feature I found that would be
 helpful would be the ability to rotate the orientation of the screen.
 I've seen requests for this feature poo-pooed before so I'm a little
 reluctant to bring the subject up. People digitizing objects would
 benefit most from this. Why? It has to do with the way human eyesight
 works. We expect to see a horizon. It is a real challenge to digitize
 things set at an angle and do it properly. It is more stressful to
 follow objects oriented at an angle which force the natural tendency to
 rotate one's head to the left or right to give the impression that the
 objects being focused on are on a horizon. If we could rotate the
 screen to match the orientation to that of the group of objects being
 worked on we could have our horizon align with the bottom of the screen
 with the sides of the screen providing a reference angle of 90 deg. Not
 having to constantly crane one's head makes the digitizing process much
 easier. I did a lot of digitizing in Google Earth before they
 depreciated the UI and found the ability to rotate the screen very
 helpful. The options in the CAD Console are very helpful in this respect
 ie auto ortho. More CAD-like features to aid digitizing objects that
 share the same orientation, like streets and houses would be helpful. I
 realize this would be a major programming challenge so I only mention it
 in passing. Obviously we can work with the tools there now. On my
 project, I digitized 42,000 polygons. Almost a year's worth of work,
 many 7 day weeks, sometimes 14 hrs per day. Anything to make digitizing
 easier should be considered.
 
 Now I'm onto another project and use QGIS every day. I wish I were in a
 position to offer programming aid. The best I can do is offer user
 feedback and praise QGIS whenever possible (see Slashgeo.org).
 
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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-06 Thread Paolo Cavallini
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 05:57:43 +0200, Andreas Neumann a.neum...@carto.net
wrote:
 what features specifically in the print composer are missing?
 
 I often hear people complain about missing features in the print
 composer, but I think that at the current trunk version it is already
 quite powerful and maybe the people just aren't aware about some
 functionality.

Agreed. I also had people complaining about map composer being not
powerful enough, but when questioned, I never could get a list of missing
features (apart from resizable, multicolumn legends, you're right).
Please let us know what is still missing: the more accurate you are the
more chances you have your request will be fulfilled.
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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-05 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 05/06/2011 01:06, Goyo ha scritto:

 workflow. OTOH I also think many bugs in the linked report are not
 really must fix for release.

Sounds reasonable.
So please help us reclassifying these cases.
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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-05 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi

We have had discussions like this in the past. Unfortunately the word
'beta' in software is so overused it has become largely meaningless.
Google mail was in beta for many years and many people used it in a
production environment in that time. Our standard policy with QGIS is
'Here is a current snapshot of our best work. Try it and if it meets
your needs use it.' All previous versions of QGIS are kept in
circulation so if you do have a major issue with 1.7, file a bug, keep
using 1.6, sit tight and wait for the 1.7.x bug fix releases which
will come out.

Regards

Tim

On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it wrote:
 Il 05/06/2011 01:06, Goyo ha scritto:

 workflow. OTOH I also think many bugs in the linked report are not
 really must fix for release.

 Sounds reasonable.
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Re: [Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-05 Thread Noli Sicad
Hi,

I think it would be better to release QGIS 1.7 as RC (release
candidate). QGIS 1.7RC for now, then it all the major bugs are fixed
release QGIS 1.7. Beta is not really good when QGIS has releasing
several version of QGIS. Beta is not a good word in my opinion. It
denotes that the software is really buggy ;-).

Noli

On 6/5/11, Tim Sutton li...@linfiniti.com wrote:
 Hi

 We have had discussions like this in the past. Unfortunately the word
 'beta' in software is so overused it has become largely meaningless.
 Google mail was in beta for many years and many people used it in a
 production environment in that time. Our standard policy with QGIS is
 'Here is a current snapshot of our best work. Try it and if it meets
 your needs use it.' All previous versions of QGIS are kept in
 circulation so if you do have a major issue with 1.7, file a bug, keep
 using 1.6, sit tight and wait for the 1.7.x bug fix releases which
 will come out.

 Regards

 Tim

 On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it
 wrote:
 Il 05/06/2011 01:06, Goyo ha scritto:

 workflow. OTOH I also think many bugs in the linked report are not
 really must fix for release.

 Sounds reasonable.
 So please help us reclassifying these cases.
 Thanks.

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[Qgis-user] Bugs, release of 1.7 and release of 1.7 as beta

2011-06-04 Thread Agustin Lobo
I'd like to bring up to the users list the thread on the release of
1.7 that was raised by Paolo in the developers list:
http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/release-of-1-7-td6421690.html

I take the liberty of including here the two most relevant messages
(in my opinion):

Paolo Cavallini:
Hi all.
Am I the only one to feel uncomfortable releasing 1.7 with 60 bugs
classified as blocking?
https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/report/16
IMVHO we should examine them, and either reclassify them or solve them
before release. My feeling is that 1.7 at this stage has significantly more
issues than most previous versions, and could be disappointing for many of
our users.
I hope to be wrong, of course.
All the best.

Nathan Woodrow:
I think releasing as a beta would be a good idea, that way we get 1.7
release out but users know it's not fully done.  This way it also
gives us more time to do bug fixing.

In my opinion, I think a beta release is a good compromise. A final
release plenty of bugs would be the worst service that could be done
to QGIS, as QGIS would be regarded by users as an experimental toy for
developers.
The worst scenario is a user thinking that a project can be performed
with QGIS  and then finding out that there are several important bugs
across the processing
chain. This leaves to frustration first and to loss of confidence soon
afterwards. A
totally different situation is that the user knows that he is using a
beta, with a clearly stated known bugs list. The same
product would raise admiration and expectation instead of frustration.

Agus
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[Qgis-user] bugs for 1.5 release

2010-06-11 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all.
Pending further comments, I have created the 1.6 tag and I'm revising the 
existing
1.5 tags to see if they can be moved to 1.6. I have also created a report for 
issues
classified as blocking for the release (https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/report/16).
Cleaning up the queue is a large task (346 tickets currently assigned to 1.5:
https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/query?status=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopenedgroup=statusorder=prioritymilestone=Version+1.5.0),
so we need the help of everybody, especially original reporters of the bugs.
It is clear that, if we want to release 1.5 soon (and we *want* do that), only 
a few
tickets should be left with the 1.5 tag, so careful scrutiny is necessary.
Looking forward for your help.
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Re: [Qgis-user] bugs for 1.5 release

2010-06-11 Thread Giovanni Manghi
I personally left behind (tagged for 1.5) this two

https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/2457
qgis (1.4, trunk) crashes if reprojecting with a raster active in the
legend

and

https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/ticket/2794
GRASS rasters properties dialogs needs to be changed




On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 19:40 +0200, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
 Hi all.
 Pending further comments, I have created the 1.6 tag and I'm revising the 
 existing
 1.5 tags to see if they can be moved to 1.6. I have also created a report for 
 issues
 classified as blocking for the release 
 (https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/report/16).
 Cleaning up the queue is a large task (346 tickets currently assigned to 1.5:
 https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/query?status=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopenedgroup=statusorder=prioritymilestone=Version+1.5.0),
 so we need the help of everybody, especially original reporters of the bugs.
 It is clear that, if we want to release 1.5 soon (and we *want* do that), 
 only a few
 tickets should be left with the 1.5 tag, so careful scrutiny is necessary.
 Looking forward for your help.
 All the best.

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2009-01-10 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all.
Now that 1.0 is at the door, I one again suggest all users to check the
bug list https://trac.osgeo.org/qgis/report and see if there are
obsolete bugs (no longer valid for the upcoming version), duplicates,
and irrelevant wishes (e.g. because the same functionality is now
available through a python plugin). This is very important, as it will
allow to concentrate on important issues. With close to 300 bugs, it is
just too easy to get lost.
All the best, and thanks to all who will take the time to improve the
situation.
-- 
Paolo Cavallini, see: * http://www.faunalia.it/pc *
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