Re: [Qgis-user] Re: Closure of forum, one month on.
I am a new user. I have been lurking on this list for about three months. Now
I am unsubscribing. SE is better for my needs; discussion here is mostly over
my head. I am grateful that qgis-user exists, and I can re-join when I need to.
The discussion on this thread ("Closure of forum") helped me know how to
proceed. I learned about the forum as it was closing, because of this
discussion, and so I'm neutral about its closure. I'm just happy to have SE.
I agree that there is no easy, clear way for a new user to orientate to the
software or to the online resources. But is has been possible, and that is
enough for me.
Thanks and ciao,
- Gray
On May 9, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Paulo van Breugel wrote:
> I think there has been a monthly growth in the use of the SE for some time
> now. This makes me wonder how the increase observed below compares to the
> longer term average monthly increase. Also, one would need to consider other
> means of communication, e..g, the email list might have absorbed part of the
> Q&A 'traffic'
>
> I agree that it is very important (too) how well the SE functions in terms of
> questions being answered and whether it functions for both questions asked by
> relative beginners and for more advanced users. For me personally, the forum
> felt like an easier way of communicating. On the other hand, the email list
> offers much if not all of that functionality by providing an easy and
> informal way of asking questions or discussing specific topics (like this one
> :-)).
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:35 AM, wrote:
> Looking at it from the other angle, there appear to have been ~100 threads
> with replies made to them in the "Help" section of the forum in March and
> about the same number for February. So the increase in the GIS.Stackexchange
> seems to coincide with the former usage of the forums with Nathan's stats.
>
> For another (probably more important) metric:
> On average about 20-30% of the threads in that forum didn't get any
> replies at all. How many of the GIS.Stackexchange questions are actually
> being answered? There appear to be 88 tagged unanswered QGIS questions:
> http://gis.stackexchange.com/unanswered/tagged/qgis
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> From: Nathan Woodrow
> To:Nick Hopton
> Cc:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
> Date:09/05/2012 10:22
> Subject:Re: [Qgis-user] Re: Closure of forum, one month on.
> Sent by:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
>
>
>
> So the stats are in for March, April, and some of May, using the query
> http://data.stackexchange.com/gis/query/68778/how-many-posts-per-month-for-a-tag?TagName=qgis
>
> The results are:
>
> 02-2012 = 346
> 03-2012 = 400
> 04-2012 = 556
> 05-2012 = 596
>
> Some pretty sharp increases there.
>
> - Nathan
>
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Nick Hopton wrote:
> In the last month of its existence about 130 new topics were created on the
> forum. It appears that during the same period about 54 new topics tagged
> 'QGIS' were created on Stack Exchange (SE) GIS. It is of course obvious that
> there has been an increase in QGIS questions on SE following the closure of
> the forum, but I think it is unlikely that all, or possibly even most, of
> the people who used to post on the forum have shifted to SE. However, for
> obvious reasons there can be no firm evidence to support this proposition;
> usage statistics are not enough.
>
> I wish it well and I'm sure that QGIS at SE will suit many of the more
> experienced QGIS users very nicely, but I'm also sure it will also put off
> many newcomers and less experienced users who need a friendly place of first
> contact where they can ask their questions. But that's enough, I seem to be
> a lone voice in this discussion so I won't push things any further.
>
> Nick.
>
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Re: [Qgis-user] Re: Closure of forum, one month on.
I think there has been a monthly growth in the use of the SE for some time now. This makes me wonder how the increase observed below compares to the longer term average monthly increase. Also, one would need to consider other means of communication, e..g, the email list might have absorbed part of the Q&A 'traffic' I agree that it is very important (too) how well the SE functions in terms of questions being answered and whether it functions for both questions asked by relative beginners and for more advanced users. For me personally, the forum felt like an easier way of communicating. On the other hand, the email list offers much if not all of that functionality by providing an easy and informal way of asking questions or discussing specific topics (like this one :-)). On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:35 AM, wrote: > Looking at it from the other angle, there appear to have been ~100 threads > with replies made to them in the "Help" section of the forum in March and > about the same number for February. So the increase in the > GIS.Stackexchange seems to coincide with the former usage of the forums > with Nathan's stats. > > For another (probably more important) metric: > On average about 20-30% of the threads in that forum didn't get > any replies at all. How many of the GIS.Stackexchange questions are > actually being answered? There appear to be 88 tagged unanswered QGIS > questions: > http://gis.stackexchange.com/unanswered/tagged/qgis > > Jonathan > > > > From:Nathan Woodrow > To:Nick Hopton > Cc: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > Date:09/05/2012 10:22 > Subject:Re: [Qgis-user] Re: Closure of forum, one month on. > Sent by:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org > -- > > > > So the stats are in for March, April, and some of May, using the query * > http://data.stackexchange.com/gis/query/68778/how-many-posts-per-month-for-a-tag?TagName=qgis > *<http://data.stackexchange.com/gis/query/68778/how-many-posts-per-month-for-a-tag?TagName=qgis> > > The results are: > > 02-2012 = 346 > 03-2012 = 400 > 04-2012 = 556 > 05-2012 = 596 > > Some pretty sharp increases there. > > - Nathan > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Nick Hopton > <*nhop...@gmail.com*> > wrote: > In the last month of its existence about 130 new topics were created on the > forum. It appears that during the same period about 54 new topics tagged > 'QGIS' were created on Stack Exchange (SE) GIS. It is of course obvious > that > there has been an increase in QGIS questions on SE following the closure of > the forum, but I think it is unlikely that all, or possibly even most, of > the people who used to post on the forum have shifted to SE. However, for > obvious reasons there can be no firm evidence to support this proposition; > usage statistics are not enough. > > I wish it well and I'm sure that QGIS at SE will suit many of the more > experienced QGIS users very nicely, but I'm also sure it will also put off > many newcomers and less experienced users who need a friendly place of > first > contact where they can ask their questions. But that's enough, I seem to be > a lone voice in this discussion so I won't push things any further. > > Nick. > > -- > View this message in context: * > http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/Closure-of-forum-one-month-on-tp4945755p4948730.html > *<http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/Closure-of-forum-one-month-on-tp4945755p4948730.html> > Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list* > **Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org* * > **http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user*<http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user> > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > > > This transmission is intended for the named addressee(s) only and may > contain sensitive or protectively marked material up to RESTRICTED and > should be handled accordingly. Unless you are the named addressee (or > authorised to receive it for the addressee) you may not copy or use it, or > disclose it to anyone else. If you have received this transmission in error > please notify the sender immediately. All email traffic sent to or from us, > including without limitation all GCSX traffic, may be subject to recording > and/or monitoring in accordance with relevant legislation. > > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Re: Closure of forum, one month on.
Looking at it from the other angle, there appear to have been ~100 threads with replies made to them in the "Help" section of the forum in March and about the same number for February. So the increase in the GIS.Stackexchange seems to coincide with the former usage of the forums with Nathan's stats. For another (probably more important) metric: On average about 20-30% of the threads in that forum didn't get any replies at all. How many of the GIS.Stackexchange questions are actually being answered? There appear to be 88 tagged unanswered QGIS questions: http://gis.stackexchange.com/unanswered/tagged/qgis Jonathan From: Nathan Woodrow To: Nick Hopton Cc: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org Date: 09/05/2012 10:22 Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Re: Closure of forum, one month on. Sent by:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org So the stats are in for March, April, and some of May, using the query http://data.stackexchange.com/gis/query/68778/how-many-posts-per-month-for-a-tag?TagName=qgis The results are: 02-2012 = 346 03-2012 = 400 04-2012 = 556 05-2012 = 596 Some pretty sharp increases there. - Nathan On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Nick Hopton wrote: In the last month of its existence about 130 new topics were created on the forum. It appears that during the same period about 54 new topics tagged 'QGIS' were created on Stack Exchange (SE) GIS. It is of course obvious that there has been an increase in QGIS questions on SE following the closure of the forum, but I think it is unlikely that all, or possibly even most, of the people who used to post on the forum have shifted to SE. However, for obvious reasons there can be no firm evidence to support this proposition; usage statistics are not enough. I wish it well and I'm sure that QGIS at SE will suit many of the more experienced QGIS users very nicely, but I'm also sure it will also put off many newcomers and less experienced users who need a friendly place of first contact where they can ask their questions. But that's enough, I seem to be a lone voice in this discussion so I won't push things any further. Nick. -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/Closure-of-forum-one-month-on-tp4945755p4948730.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user This transmission is intended for the named addressee(s) only and may contain sensitive or protectively marked material up to RESTRICTED and should be handled accordingly. Unless you are the named addressee (or authorised to receive it for the addressee) you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you have received this transmission in error please notify the sender immediately. All email traffic sent to or from us, including without limitation all GCSX traffic, may be subject to recording and/or monitoring in accordance with relevant legislation. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Re: Closure of forum, one month on.
So the stats are in for March, April, and some of May, using the query http://data.stackexchange.com/gis/query/68778/how-many-posts-per-month-for-a-tag?TagName=qgis The results are: 02-2012 = 346 03-2012 = 400 04-2012 = 556 05-2012 = 596 Some pretty sharp increases there. - Nathan On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Nick Hopton wrote: > In the last month of its existence about 130 new topics were created on the > forum. It appears that during the same period about 54 new topics tagged > 'QGIS' were created on Stack Exchange (SE) GIS. It is of course obvious > that > there has been an increase in QGIS questions on SE following the closure of > the forum, but I think it is unlikely that all, or possibly even most, of > the people who used to post on the forum have shifted to SE. However, for > obvious reasons there can be no firm evidence to support this proposition; > usage statistics are not enough. > > I wish it well and I'm sure that QGIS at SE will suit many of the more > experienced QGIS users very nicely, but I'm also sure it will also put off > many newcomers and less experienced users who need a friendly place of > first > contact where they can ask their questions. But that's enough, I seem to be > a lone voice in this discussion so I won't push things any further. > > Nick. > > -- > View this message in context: > http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/Closure-of-forum-one-month-on-tp4945755p4948730.html > Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Re: Closure of forum, one month on.
If I go here: http://gis.stackexchange.com/tags I see under the QGIS tag: 34 asked this week, 152 this month There are only 560 questions tagged with "qgis", so as a proportion that's quite a lot. On that entire page QGIS has easily got the highest "asked this week" and "this month" numbers with the "arcgis" tag being the second (17 and 78 respectively) though highest total questions of all time at 1235 Jonathan From: Paulo van Breugel To: Nathan Woodrow Cc: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org, Nick Hopton Date: 02/05/2012 13:39 Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Re: Closure of forum, one month on. Sent by:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org Nice, is this including all answers? If so, would it be possible to see how many new questions are posted every day? In any case, with the increasing trend in the last couple of month, we need to wait for the data for April (and later) to see if there is any change. I would expect that part of what people post on the forum does not end up on the Stack Exchange as the SE follows a more rigid format (Q&A), while on the forum could be used for e.g. a less structured exchange of ideas. These exchanges of ideas or whatever you call it might end up somewhere else (not sure where). (I personally think it is a good thing Q&A are separated from discussions) Paulo On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Nathan Woodrow wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Nick Hopton wrote: Is it possible to determine the number of new questions tagged 'QGIS' asked on Stack Exchange GIS in March and the same for April? Nick. The last query that I just posted should be able to do it once the data is updated to include April. Currently it only includes up till March. The site is updated monthly so it should be there soon. - Nathan ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user This transmission is intended for the named addressee(s) only and may contain sensitive or protectively marked material up to RESTRICTED and should be handled accordingly. Unless you are the named addressee (or authorised to receive it for the addressee) you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you have received this transmission in error please notify the sender immediately. All email traffic sent to or from us, including without limitation all GCSX traffic, may be subject to recording and/or monitoring in accordance with relevant legislation. ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Re: Closure of forum, one month on.
Nice, is this including all answers? If so, would it be possible to see how many new questions are posted every day? In any case, with the increasing trend in the last couple of month, we need to wait for the data for April (and later) to see if there is any change. I would expect that part of what people post on the forum does not end up on the Stack Exchange as the SE follows a more rigid format (Q&A), while on the forum could be used for e.g. a less structured exchange of ideas. These exchanges of ideas or whatever you call it might end up somewhere else (not sure where). (I personally think it is a good thing Q&A are separated from discussions) Paulo On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Nathan Woodrow wrote: > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Nick Hopton wrote: > >> Is it possible to determine the number of new questions tagged 'QGIS' >> asked >> on Stack Exchange GIS in March and the same for April? >> >> Nick. >> > > The last query that I just posted should be able to do it once the data is > updated to include April. Currently it only includes up till March. The > site is updated monthly so it should be there soon. > > - Nathan > > ___ > Qgis-user mailing list > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user > > ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
Re: [Qgis-user] Re: Closure of forum, one month on.
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Nick Hopton wrote: > Is it possible to determine the number of new questions tagged 'QGIS' asked > on Stack Exchange GIS in March and the same for April? > > Nick. > The last query that I just posted should be able to do it once the data is updated to include April. Currently it only includes up till March. The site is updated monthly so it should be there soon. - Nathan ___ Qgis-user mailing list Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
