Re: [ql-users] Software versions was Sedit 2.26
Dilwyn Jones schreef: My updated 'keywords list' have more than 3.500 entries now, but I don't yhink it is still worth while publishing. My current 'keywords list' has about 3590 entries. If someone out there is interested just let me know. If anyone like you has lists of keywords which exceed those on my website, please let me have a copy to keep the list up to date. Hi Dilwyn, In which format do you want me to send the keywords list? Possible formats: 1)Export for Archive/Suqcess/QLDBAS 2)HTML (tables) 3)CSV (can be opened in CALC(OpenOffice) and probably Excell 4)Plain text (field separator TAB) The file will be zipped to reduce its size. What file name do you want for the 'zip' file? Kind regards, François Van Emelen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software versions was Sedit 2.26
My updated 'keywords list' have more than 3.500 entries now, but I don't yhink it is still worth while publishing. My current 'keywords list' has about 3590 entries. If someone out there is interested just let me know. If anyone like you has lists of keywords which exceed those on my website, please let me have a copy to keep the list up to date. -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/2006 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software versions was Sedit 2.26
- Original Message - From: François Van Emelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software versions was Sedit 2.26 Here is my list of most used programs: Qspread v. 4.03 QD v.b.01 QPAC1 v. 1.00 QPAC2 v. 1.42 Easyptr 4.09 Agenda v. 1.09 Basic Linker v. 2.07 QPC2 v. 3.30 Wined v. 1.26 Fifi v. 4.30 Suqcess v. 2.03 Qtyp2 v. 2.04 QDT v.1.00r DataDesign LineDesign QL2PC and STIJL check Multi sprite viewer and Menu viewer P. Witte ProwesS/Proforma QLDBAS v 1.11 This could be the start of a very long list. I think this could apply to all of us. Frankly I would find it very difficult to decide which are the 10 programs I use most - it all depends on whether my main activity at any one time is writing articles or program development. Now that nice Mr. Gates gives us this information in Windows XP. My most used PC program is called QPC2. Is there anyone out there who also uses it? 5: Don't be naive enough to think that you will get replies to emails if you send them out. Tony Firshman has been doing email shots advertising shows for almost 6 years and I have been doing snail mails for 2 years. Some traders, including software traders, have never given us a single reply to our emails asking for their copy. (Quanta used to be one of the worse offenders until you came along, John. For your efficiency we are very grateful.), I didn't know we (users) were supposed to comment react or reply to those. Users are not necessarily expected to reply to emails, but traders are. Before QL is 21 Tony Firshman sent out his usual email and Quanta fully funded a snailmail to the rest. In other words traders had the opportunity of free advertising to every known QL-er in the UK. We got a better response than usual, but still not all traders replied, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software versions was Sedit 2.26
gwicks schreef: SNIP Even better let people on this list give their 10 most popular programs. Here is my list of most used programs: Qspread v. 4.03 QD v.b.01 QPAC1 v. 1.00 QPAC2 v. 1.42 Easyptr 4.09 Agenda v. 1.09 Basic Linker v. 2.07 QPC2 v. 3.30 Wined v. 1.26 Fifi v. 4.30 Suqcess v. 2.03 Qtyp2 v. 2.04 QDT v.1.00r DataDesign LineDesign QL2PC and STIJL check Multi sprite viewer and Menu viewer P. Witte ProwesS/Proforma QLDBAS v 1.11 This could be the start of a very long list. 5: Don't be naive enough to think that you will get replies to emails if you send them out. Tony Firshman has been doing email shots advertising shows for almost 6 years and I have been doing snail mails for 2 years. Some traders, including software traders, have never given us a single reply to our emails asking for their copy. (Quanta used to be one of the worse offenders until you came along, John. For your efficiency we are very grateful.), I didn't know we (users) were supposed to comment react or reply to those. Lack or absence of comments? Here is one on Roy Wood's 'Very FEXing' (QLTODAY Vol 10 Issue 3). He is so right in his article. It would have been so easy to to avoid the problems with 'FEX'; a quick look at the 'keywords list' (Dilwyn's and the official SMSQ website) would have told the author that 'FEX' was already an existing keyword in one of our most used utilities (FileInfo2). My updated 'keywords list' have more than 3.500 entries now, but I don't yhink it is still worth while publishing. He is so right being picky about the way 'SMSQ is updated. François Van Emelen Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software versions was Sedit 2.26
- Original Message - From: John Gilpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software versions was Sedit 2.26 We are all aware of the failings of the various QUANTA committees, Geoff. Why not send me a list of your popular software (showing latest versions of each package, whether there are different versions for differing QL platforms, where they can be obtained and how much etc.) and see if this will start off my new feature. I note what you say regarding the changes of topics/subjects on this list. I had hoped to be in contact with the authors or tinkerers themselves rather than have to extract confused info off the list. 1: I am not going to send you the details, but here are the statistics. On my hard disk I have 46 programs installed. 31 of these are used regularly. 14 are commercial programs. This is the easy bit as there are only two traders involved. (Actually 3 but Jochen and Roy sell the same range.) 6 of the programs are technically commercial, but now no longer available. 8 are Just Words! programs, either commercial or freeware. 5 are my own programs, of which 2 are in PD libraries. 19 are freeware/ public domain programs with 14 different authors. That is a total of 17 people you would have to contact in my case. 2: I doubt if I am a typical QL user. There are many more commercial and freeware programs in common use. 3: The tendency in the last few years has been a move away from commercial software into public domain/freeware. This is especially so of much GD2, sprite and PE development software. In other words it would not be a matter of contacting a few traders, but instead a lot of individuals. Realistically we are talking of a full time QL task for someone. 4: Suppose we restrict our choice to only popular software. Try a little test. Ask 20 people to send you a list of their 10 most popular programs and see what the final total comes to. Even better let people on this list give their 10 most popular programs. 5: Don't be naive enough to think that you will get replies to emails if you send them out. Tony Firshman has been doing email shots advertising shows for almost 6 years and I have been doing snail mails for 2 years. Some traders, including software traders, have never given us a single reply to our emails asking for their copy. (Quanta used to be one of the worse offenders until you came along, John. For your efficiency we are very grateful.), Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software versions was Sedit 2.26
- Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software versions was Sedit 2.26 I don't routinely keep a list of what versions of all programs I'm at, but I'm sure given a day off I could come up with a list of my software versions. I don't either and it would take me quite a time to compile a list of the latest JW versions. Now think of the problem traders like Jochen and Roy would have. This makes it even more likely that you wold not get replies to emails. This is a suggestion that crops up quite often, but it has never happened in practice, perhaps with good reason. Of course, Quanta could set a good example by publishing in the magazine the version numbers of every program in the Quanta library ;-). Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software versions was Sedit 2.26
I am getting hopelessly lost and confused regarding what the current version of which programme is the latest and which platform(s) it runs on. Would it be an idea to include a Software Updates Page in the QUANTA Magazine listing all the popular applications, what their latest version is, the platform(s) it runs on, where it's available from and how much it costs? Clearly this will mean some regular correspondence between the tinkerer(s) and the editor but may help a number of people who do not have www.access from their Black box QLs and therefore rely on hard written publications to keep their interests alive. A fine idea in theory, but I suspect it will not work in practice. I am now writing my third news section for QL Today, and have discovered there are only a handful of people who send their news items to the magazine. At one stage I thought I would have to make up the news for the last issue: Another problem faced by people like Marcel and myself I suppose is that we release frequent updates, the frequency combined with printed magazine lead times that news is often old hat and out of date by the time you get to read it (not a dig at Quanta or QL Today in any shape or form). I don't routinely keep a list of what versions of all programs I'm at, but I'm sure given a day off I could come up with a list of my software versions. Either organisation's editors are of course welcome to grab news off my website - keep an eye on the 'List of recent updates' page accessed via the link at the bottom of my home page, or go direct to: www.dilwyn.uk6.net/history.html where I make brief notes largely for my own reference of what changed on what page of my website on what date. I stopped putting a news page on my website as I wasn't able to keep it up to date enough! -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.8/260 - Release Date: 14/02/2006 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software versions was Sedit 2.26
- Original Message - From: John Gilpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Sedit 2.26 I am getting hopelessly lost and confused regarding what the current version of which programme is the latest and which platform(s) it runs on. Would it be an idea to include a Software Updates Page in the QUANTA Magazine listing all the popular applications, what their latest version is, the platform(s) it runs on, where it's available from and how much it costs? Clearly this will mean some regular correspondence between the tinkerer(s) and the editor but may help a number of people who do not have www.access from their Black box QLs and therefore rely on hard written publications to keep their interests alive. A fine idea in theory, but I suspect it will not work in practice. I am now writing my third news section for QL Today, and have discovered there are only a handful of people who send their news items to the magazine. At one stage I thought I would have to make up the news for the last issue: Bill Gates ate my hamster (Sorry an in-joke few will understand) In practice most of QL Today news is gleaned from this list, but I also have to do a little spying at shows etc. Given that many discussions on this list are rambling and off topic or the topic changes it can be quite difficult to decide what is relevant and what not. I wonder how well Quanta can learn to sniff out the important news. I stopped sending Just Words! news to Quanta some time ago because it just did not get printed. I also never send review copies of programs to Quanta. Of my last four new products Quanta has produced a review of only one. And that was an initiative from someone who had bought it at a show. I don't waste my time on unproductive work, Best Wishes Geoff PS If any one is wondering if the above is personal or official, it is neither. I resigned from all my Quanta duties a fortnight ago. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Software versions was Sedit 2.26
We are all aware of the failings of the various QUANTA committees, Geoff. Why not send me a list of your popular software (showing latest versions of each package, whether there are different versions for differing QL platforms, where they can be obtained and how much etc.) and see if this will start off my new feature. I note what you say regarding the changes of topics/subjects on this list. I had hoped to be in contact with the authors or tinkerers themselves rather than have to extract confused info off the list. John Gilpin. - Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software versions was Sedit 2.26 - Original Message - From: John Gilpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Sedit 2.26 I am getting hopelessly lost and confused regarding what the current version of which programme is the latest and which platform(s) it runs on. Would it be an idea to include a Software Updates Page in the QUANTA Magazine listing all the popular applications, what their latest version is, the platform(s) it runs on, where it's available from and how much it costs? Clearly this will mean some regular correspondence between the tinkerer(s) and the editor but may help a number of people who do not have www.access from their Black box QLs and therefore rely on hard written publications to keep their interests alive. A fine idea in theory, but I suspect it will not work in practice. I am now writing my third news section for QL Today, and have discovered there are only a handful of people who send their news items to the magazine. At one stage I thought I would have to make up the news for the last issue: Bill Gates ate my hamster (Sorry an in-joke few will understand) In practice most of QL Today news is gleaned from this list, but I also have to do a little spying at shows etc. Given that many discussions on this list are rambling and off topic or the topic changes it can be quite difficult to decide what is relevant and what not. I wonder how well Quanta can learn to sniff out the important news. I stopped sending Just Words! news to Quanta some time ago because it just did not get printed. I also never send review copies of programs to Quanta. Of my last four new products Quanta has produced a review of only one. And that was an initiative from someone who had bought it at a show. I don't waste my time on unproductive work, Best Wishes Geoff PS If any one is wondering if the above is personal or official, it is neither. I resigned from all my Quanta duties a fortnight ago. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
