Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR manual online

2009-11-16 Thread gdgqler

On 15 Nov 2009, at 19:21, P Witte wrote:

 iob.elin (trap#3, $4) was a terrible mess. I wrote to TT about it and he 
 agreed, but I dont know it was ever fixed

After several years I managed to get this trap to work. As far as I can tell it 
works perfectly. But the descriptions in the various manuals are not very clear.

I now think it is in fact a good, almost essential, trap.

George 
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR manual online

2009-11-15 Thread Marcel Kilgus
gdgqler wrote:
 $23 is qa.tan2

Only in SMSQ/E, but not Minerva

 $25 and $27 are not there

They're available in Minerva, but not SMSQ/E

 $2F increases the stack by 4, not 2

$2F is Minerva only and as I see it, it does increase by 2

 $32 returns PI

SMSQ/E only again.

With all the different OS and release versions it's difficult to keep
everything in sync.

 2. Page Section 16 15
 For vector SB.INIPR A4 is altered on return

As far as I see, the register is saved before the call. Or is it a
QDOS bug?

 QPTR Manual

 1. Page 60
 In IOP.RPXL it seems that A1 is not preserved.

This was fixed in later PE releases and SMSQ/E.

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR manual online

2009-11-15 Thread Marcel Kilgus
gdgqler wrote:
 However (isn't there quite often a however?) there are one or two
 pencilled amendments in my printed manuals which someone may like to confirm 
 or refute.

By the way, this is all in Text87 which is a program I can only use
with great difficulty. If somebody else of course wants to maintin the
manuals... ;-)

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR manual online

2009-11-15 Thread Ralf Reköndt

From: Marcel Kilgus

By the way, this is all in Text87 which is a program I can only use
with great difficulty. If somebody else of course wants to maintin the
manuals... ;-)


Any chance to get the original QPTR text?

Cheers...Ralf
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR manual online

2009-11-15 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Ralf Reköndt wrote:
 From: Marcel Kilgus
 By the way, this is all in Text87 which is a program I can only use
 with great difficulty. If somebody else of course wants to maintin the
 manuals... ;-)
 Any chance to get the original QPTR text?

What is that?

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR manual online

2009-11-15 Thread Ralf Reköndt
The original QJump docs have embedded control codes (like \j, \b or 
\mn codes für l+r justifying, bold text and monospaced text.). They were 
printed with QPLQ (an inhouse QJump program) nearly as the way TeX 
prints. Far bejond text87. So, if someone can supply the original text, I 
can print it as a PDF so it looks the same as originally printed by QJump.


Originality should be preserved ;-).

Cheers...Ralf

BTW: You have corrected a bug in QPLQ for QPC2 for me, do you remember...?

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From: Marcel Kilgus


Ralf Reköndt wrote:

From: Marcel Kilgus

By the way, this is all in Text87 which is a program I can only use
with great difficulty. If somebody else of course wants to maintin the
manuals... ;-)

Any chance to get the original QPTR text?


What is that?

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR manual online

2009-11-15 Thread P Witte

Marcel Kilgus wrote:



With all the different OS and release versions it's difficult to keep
everything in sync.


As you say. I too have a number of corrections, but no longer know 
whether they apply or not, as there were so many intermediate versions.


Thus

sms.sevt (trap #1, $3a) A0+ all preserved. My notes says HBA 3.04 smashed!

iob.elin (trap#3, $4) was a terrible mess. I wrote to TT about it and 
he agreed, but I dont know it was ever fixed


Theres more, but this is perhaps not the time/place.. Would be great 
if someone were to take on to edit these manuals. Perhaps the 
simplest for now would be for that someone to compile an Errata 
database and maintain it in some public place on the web?



2. Page Section 16 15
For vector SB.INIPR A4 is altered on return


As far as I see, the register is saved before the call. Or is it a
QDOS bug?


QPTR Manual

1. Page 60
In IOP.RPXL it seems that A1 is not preserved.


This was fixed in later PE releases and SMSQ/E.


Last time I checked iop.rpxl wasnt working at all!

Per
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR manual online

2009-11-15 Thread Marcel Kilgus
P Witte wrote:
 iob.elin (trap#3, $4) was a terrible mess. I wrote to TT about it and
 he agreed, but I dont know it was ever fixed

No idea either.

 1. Page 60
 In IOP.RPXL it seems that A1 is not preserved.
 This was fixed in later PE releases and SMSQ/E.
 Last time I checked iop.rpxl wasnt working at all!

Ah, right. It was not implemented for high colour modes. In this case
I just remembered that Wolfgang fixed a whole bunch of A1 issues and
figured this would have been among them.

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR manual online

2009-11-15 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Ralf Reköndt wrote:
 The original QJump docs have embedded control codes (like \j, \b or
 \mn codes für l+r justifying, bold text and monospaced text.).

Ah, okay. No, can't help you there, sorry. Don't even have the QPTR
sources.

Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR manual online

2009-11-13 Thread Malcolm Lear

Many thanks Marcel!! Extremely useful.

Malcolm


Marcel Kilgus wrote:

Here's one thing that came out of the Swiss QL meeting: I've updated
my page at http://www.kilgus.net/smsqe/development.html to include
PDFs of the QDOS SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR. In the hope that
there are still some developers left who have a use for them...

Have fun, Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR manual online

2009-11-13 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I'm very grateful to Marcel for this. I have both books, but they are 
big and clumsy, so a PDF (I hope it's searchable, haven't looked yet) 
will be *very* useful for the odd occasion when I need to refer to the 
docs.


Dilwyn Jones

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Subject: [Ql-Users] SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR manual online




Here's one thing that came out of the Swiss QL meeting: I've updated
my page at http://www.kilgus.net/smsqe/development.html to include
PDFs of the QDOS SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR. In the hope 
that

there are still some developers left who have a use for them...

Have fun, Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR manual online

2009-11-13 Thread Anton Preinsack

Thank you, Marcel!

Am 13.11.2009 um 03:52 schrieb Marcel Kilgus:


Here's one thing that came out of the Swiss QL meeting: I've updated
my page at http://www.kilgus.net/smsqe/development.html to include
PDFs of the QDOS SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR. In the hope that
there are still some developers left who have a use for them...

Have fun, Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR manual online

2009-11-13 Thread Ralf Reköndt

Thank you, Marcel!

BTW: I still find it a bit annoying, that Jochen had omit the original 
labels of all the TRAPs and Vectors as mentioned in the QLTG and used for 
years and still be present in a lot of include fles. I can still not 
understand, why Tony meant to rename them all in the context of QDOS.


Ok, SMS was new, but it had been helpful to make a hint for all.

And...what is DV3, Device Driver 3? Not heard of it. It is just mentioned 
at the beginning?


Cheers...Ralf

Another BTW: If someone provides the *original* txt of QPTR (with all the 
embedded ESCapes, Jochen has called them control codes), I can make a pdf 
with QPLQ to provide the original layout.


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To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 3:52 AM
Subject: [Ql-Users] SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR manual online



Here's one thing that came out of the Swiss QL meeting: I've updated
my page at http://www.kilgus.net/smsqe/development.html to include
PDFs of the QDOS SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR. In the hope that
there are still some developers left who have a use for them...

Have fun, Marcel

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQ Reference Manual and QPTR manual online

2009-11-13 Thread Ralf Reköndt

Hm, maybe. But not clearly mentioned.

Cheers...Ralf

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From: Dilwyn Jones



And...what is DV3, Device Driver 3? Not heard of it. It is just 
mentioned

at the beginning?

Cheers...Ralf

Wasn't that the filing system which could read DOS floppies?

Dilwyn Jones

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