[ql-users] QPC2v303 versus Office 97
Can anyone else reproduce this problem I'm having with QPC2 v3.03? Start QPC2. Check that floppy disk access works with DIR FLP1_ Go to Windows 95 or 98 (I was using Win95 until start of this week until it did a PC an I was forced to reinstall but this time used WIn98SE). Start a M$ program like Word or Excel (Office 97 Pro on my PC). ALT TAB back to QPC2, check you can still read a floppy disk. ALT TAB back to M$ prog. Open a file, make sure you wade through a few directories - whichever directory (probably My Documents) it opens first, make sure you load from another folder. ALT TAB back to QPC2. On my system floppy disk access will have stopped working. If you DIR FLP1_ with a disk in the drive, it will take a long time to realise it can no longer read the disk. But if you DIR FLP1_ with no disk in the drive it realises straight away and gives the usual error. This does not happen when I use the same version of QPC2 on a Windows 2000 system at work, so may be specific to my PC or to Windows 95/98. Please can someone with Win9x, M$ Word or Excel and QPC2v3 try this and let me know if the same problem occurs so I can offer a better description of the problem to Marcel or Jochen to see if they can come up with something to help me. Conversely, if someone with a similar setup can verify that this doesn't happen I'll know it's something in the software on this machine. Very strange, it only seems to happen with M$ programs! (OK, I know that'll teach me...) -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] e-mail plain protocols [was Parcelfarce]
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 at 22:46:34, John G Hitchcock wrote: (ref: 007001c2666f$7c0fabc0$dc169fd4@johns) In I/E v 6.00 tools options send tab select: include message in reply - Note: In I/E 6: There does not *seem* to be the offer of the - '' etc as a prefix but a standardisation on ':' Interesting - I have _never_ seen ':' until now. See example below reply to original - Original Message - From: A N other .. To: AN A N Other Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 10:25 PM Subject: Test for ' include message in reply' - original : Test for ' include message in reply' - original : $$ -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tonysurname.demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] e-mail plain protocols [was Parcelfarce]
- Original Message - From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] e-mail plain protocols [was Parcelfarce] to messagesin the format they were sent On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 at 22:46:34, John G Hitchcock wrote: (ref: 007001c2666f$7c0fabc0$dc169fd4@johns) In I/E v 6.00 tools options send tab select: include message in reply - Note: In I/E 6: There does not *seem* to be the offer of the - '' etc as a prefix but a standardisation on ':' Interesting - I have _never_ seen ':' until now. As I stated in a reply '' ':' and '|' are available. I noted that I also had the 'reply to messages in the fromat they were sent ' ticked, this overrides any plain text settings if replying to html mails, I'm not sure this could have any bearings on my mail to Tony and Norman as I assume they replied in plain text. the URL that I pasted in to the original reply to Tony would not constitute a html mail on return surely. Could someone tell me if my mails are ok now please (:-) All the best - Bill
Re: [ql-users] QPC2v303 versus Office 97
Dilwyn Jones wrote: ALT TAB back to QPC2. On my system floppy disk access will have stopped working. If you DIR FLP1_ with a disk in the drive, it will take a long time to realise it can no longer read the disk. But if you DIR FLP1_ with no disk in the drive it realises straight away and gives the usual error. Hmm, I just did a few tests using my old (not to say ancient) Win95+Word2000 installation. I did not experience any problems, neither with QL nor with PC discs. Can somebody with preferably Office97 check this? This does not happen when I use the same version of QPC2 on a Windows 2000 system at work, so may be specific to my PC or to Windows 95/98. It certainly is. Floppy disc access is in fact the only part of QPC that needs completely independent code for 9x/ME and NT/2000/XP. The reason being that while NT/2000/XP incorporate a proper floppy driver 9x/ME only uses a wrapper for the BIOS calls. The only advantage is that QPC1 and QPC2 for 9x share almost exactly the same floppy code... Having said this I wouldn't rule out that it might be a BIOS problem. Cheers, Marcel
Re: [ql-users] QPC2v303 versus Office 97
At 08:36 ðì 28/9/2002, you wrote: Dilwyn, look at your startup folder in the Start MenuPrograms and remove the shortcut named Microsoft Office (points to the file: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\OSA9.EXE -b -l) This is the Office Indexer that reads constantly the drives and probably causes the problem. Mine is removed and I experience no problem with QPC. Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] e-mail plain protocols [was Parcelfarce]
Tony Firshman writes: While were having this little chat let me point out to Tony that I often find your replies very hard to find. See the example below. lines and lines of quoted text Note: In I/E 6: There does not *seem* to be the offer of the - '' etc as a prefix but a standardisation on ':' Interesting - I have _never_ seen ':' until now. --- Tony's reply See example below more lines and lines of quoted text Perhaps, because your email program does intelligent things to the text to emphasise the thread logic in some way, you may not realise the problem even now. Try viewing it in a text-only application to see what I mean; your reply gets completely lost in the ambient verbiage! This has been the case as long as Ive been on this list, so in the early days, when I believed all email clients were the same, I made sure to leave a blank line above and below my own inserted responses (I wonder how that comes across on some people's screens!) If Im the only person with this problem I apologise for taking up your time - otherwise, perhaps you might consider adapting your style for the benefit of your reading public? Pained of Painswick
[ql-users] QL Today Disk - Vol7 Iss3
Hi, I have found that the 'qwirc_zip' hangs when unziping the _txt file. 'Jobs' utility reports that memory has been corrupted, and allows the job to be killed off. This is with QPC v3. Anyone else noticed ? -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] e-mail plain protocols [was Parcelfarce]
In article 001001c266eb$fbfced80$a44b01d5@famwaugh, Bill Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] e-mail plain protocols [was Parcelfarce] to messagesin the format they were sent On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 at 22:46:34, John G Hitchcock wrote: (ref: 007001c2666f$7c0fabc0$dc169fd4@johns) In I/E v 6.00 tools options send tab select: include message in reply - Note: In I/E 6: There does not *seem* to be the offer of the - '' etc as a prefix but a standardisation on ':' Interesting - I have _never_ seen ':' until now. As I stated in a reply '' ':' and '|' are available. I noted that I also had the 'reply to messages in the fromat they were sent ' ticked, this overrides any plain text settings if replying to html mails, I'm not sure this could have any bearings on my mail to Tony and Norman as I assume they replied in plain text. the URL that I pasted in to the original reply to Tony would not constitute a html mail on return surely. Could someone tell me if my mails are ok now please (:-) Yes, they seem OK now, Bill. Although I would suggest that you 'untick' the 'reply to messages in the format they were sent' in Outlook, and just stick to plain text. You can always make an individual choice later for a particular email if you wish. Although M$ have this as the 'default' setting in Outlook it encourages a lot of bouncing around of extra bandwidth ... -- Malcolm Cadman
Re: [ql-users] QPC2v303 versus Office 97
It certainly is. Floppy disc access is in fact the only part of QPC that needs completely independent code for 9x/ME and NT/2000/XP. The reason being that while NT/2000/XP incorporate a proper floppy driver 9x/ME only uses a wrapper for the BIOS calls. The only advantage is that QPC1 and QPC2 for 9x share almost exactly the same floppy code... Having said this I wouldn't rule out that it might be a BIOS problem. Knowing this PC, that is entirely possible. However, I find it odd that this only happens when using certain M$ programs to browse files. The usual suspects of Windows Exploder, net programs and older graphics programs have no effect, it seems to be just Windoze programs related to M$ Orifice in some way. We do use M$ Office at work but it's a Windoze 2000 system and different version of M$ office, so the same parameters don't apply. After a few minutes experimenting, Phoebus's suggestion of removing the Office 97 item from the Startup menu seems to have cleared the problem, I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks guys. -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] QPC2v303 versus Office 97
Is this with a QDOS or PC format floppy, or does it also happen if the drive is empty? Not if the drive is empty. QDOS format floppy. One problem I know with the MS Office suite is that on loading it seems to check all files that are in the recently accessed list. Therefore if you have saved a file to a floppy it will try and access the floppy drive. I tend to notice it even at work where it tries to access a network share that is no longer available - and can take a long time before it gives up. I've noticed this, but it seems inconsistent. Another hiccup we get is that even though the Brother printer diver is installed and happily driving the printer via USB001 (which is shared) it still insists on showing the 'Found New USB Hardware Connection' wizard even though both the computer having the printer connected and the other two networked ones are happily printing away! Plug and Pray indeed - makes me quite glad to be a QLer! And in my present job I have no IT guy to back me up either...a die hard QLer in charge of a network of PCs. Eeek! Fortunately I do have a good laugh when it all goes belly up even though it is usually me who has to pick up the pieces. Quite funny really, the poor little QL emulator is the one which NEVER crashes in that office! (Hate to have to say it, but Win2K does survive just about anything the crappy company software throws at it!) Unfortunately I do not have a Win9x system where I can check out your scenario so can only offer some thoughts. I can check out the scenario on NT4/W2K/XP if you want - but you seem to think that you do not have problems on those OS. No. It's known not to happen on NT and 2K. Not been able to try XP though. -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] QL Today Disk - Vol7 Iss3
I have found that the 'qwirc_zip' hangs when unziping the _txt file. 'Jobs' utility reports that memory has been corrupted, and allows the job to be killed off. This is with QPC v3. Anyone else noticed ? I've just tried unzipping it from the master disk which was emailed to j-m-s (I haven't received a copy of the distribution disks yet) and it seems to work OK on my QPC2 v3.03. It is of course always possible it may have got corrupted somewhere en-route. You can always download Qwirc from my website to try. Sadly, just after the cover dissk went out, Duncan Neithercut updated his QCDEZE program to version 1.05 and version 1.06. The version on the cover CD is v1.04 I think. Nothing drastically wrong with it, but if you do want the latest version 1.06 (which includes some changes made after feedback from some Q60 users) it can be downloaded from the usual Other Software Page on my website www.soft.net.uk/dj/software/other/other.html -- Dilwyn Jones
Re: [ql-users] Parcelfarce
- Original Message - From: Laurence Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wonder. I can't be bothered to check, but does LookOut offer a similar function - replace '' with neat, continous nothing. My experience with Outlook Express is that it is inconsistent. Even if you set it to indent with it doesn't always do this. I have never discovered why or what circumstances, but then I have never bothered to investigate. Just a thought though. Could there be a difference if the original message was text only or HTML? By the way, how come you are getting away with this OT thread without anyone complaining ;-). Geoff Wicks
Re: [ql-users] Parcelfarce
- Original Message - From: Geoff Wicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Parcelfarce - Original Message - From: Laurence Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wonder. I can't be bothered to check, but does LookOut offer a similar function - replace '' with neat, continous nothing. My experience with Outlook Express is that it is inconsistent. Even if you set it to indent with it doesn't always do this. I have never discovered why or what circumstances, but then I have never bothered to investigate. Just a thought though. Could there be a difference if the original message was text only or HTML? I wondered about that so I have unticked he box that allows the plain text setting to be overidden when replying to html By the way, how come you are getting away with this OT thread without anyone complaining ;-). SSSHHH my apologies, it was my mail that set it off. All the best - Bill
Re: [ql-users] Parcelfarce
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Geoff Wicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP By the way, how come you are getting away with this OT thread without anyone complaining ;-). It is the tail end of summer and no one is looking. -- Roy Wood Q Branch, 20 Locks Hill Portslade. Sussex. BN41 2LB. UK Tel : +44 (0)1273 386030 Fax : +44 (0)1273 430501 (New number!) Mobile +44(0)7836 745501 Web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk
Re: [ql-users] Parcelfarce
YES 100 turgid messages with no complaint. Is this stilll the silly seasom ? - Original Message - From: Roy Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 1:19 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Parcelfarce | | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Geoff Wicks | [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes | SNIP | By the way, how come you are getting away with this OT thread without anyone | complaining ;-). | It is the tail end of summer and no one is looking. | -- | Roy Wood | Q Branch, 20 Locks Hill Portslade. Sussex. BN41 2LB. UK | Tel : +44 (0)1273 386030 Fax : +44 (0)1273 430501 (New number!) | Mobile +44(0)7836 745501 | Web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk | | --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.391 / Virus Database: 222 - Release Date: 19/09/02
RE: [ql-users] QPC2v303 versus Office 97
Can anyone else reproduce this problem I'm having with QPC2 v3.03? This sounds like the Win98 floppy disk bug I experienced. It affects Win98, but not 95, NT, 2000 or XP. It looks like Win98 has some problems in recognizing the density of a floppy disk that's not in PC format. Daniele
Re: [ql-users] Linux on Q40
On 25/09/02 at 20:03 Dave P wrote: On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Jonathan Dent wrote: I'll need the SGC Aurora IDE/Ethernet interface before I can work on pppoe but maybe a more intelligent ADSL router/hub would be a simpler solution. (if more expensive) That's Nasta's baby. Nasta, I have these parts for you. Want them? :o) Sorry for not jumping in here, I was having a bit of an email problem last week, not a good thing when you need to get and send eBay related email, and there's money on the line - so now I'm catching up with the list, and deleting the Lookout Distress related messages (best fix for it = uninstall). Anyway: I was thinking of trying to make a tiny proto version of the ethernet, that would plug onto an Aurora ROM port. So far, however, I have yet to get my printer to print something that would actually produce a printed circuit of that density (single layer may be fine for this). I still have the few 10BaseT transformers for prototyping, so for now Dave keeps the parts ;-) Nasta
