[ql-developers] Q40 Linux and 10BaseT EZNet ISA

2002-11-04 Thread Φοίβος Ρ. Ντόκος

Hi all,
anybody knows if the SMC EZNet 10BaseT ISA adapter works 
with Q40 Linux?

Phoebus





Re: [ql-users] Development

2002-11-04 Thread Roy Wood



Then I'll have one pepperoni pizza please :-)

Watch it Per, Marcel is one great pizza fan...


Which proves Geoff's statement... Greeks (or their
inventions... ie Pizza ;-)  are everywhere ;-). "Our" legacy
does affect even Marcel :-P hehehehe

Now I heard a program on fast foods and they said there that an American 
went over to Europe in search of a fast food to rival the hamburger. He 
brought back the original Pizza - a small bread base with tomato puree 
and cheese - and everyone said this will never work. They then added 
some more toppings and today's pizza was born. Rather like the Indian 
dish whose name escapes me the re-exported the fake Italian dish back to 
Italy. Maybe this was wrong.
--
Roy Wood
Q Branch, 20 Locks Hill Portslade. Sussex. BN41 2LB. UK
Tel : +44 (0)1273 386030 Fax : +44 (0)1273 430501 (New number!)
Mobile +44(0)7836 745501
Web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk




Re: [ql-users] QL Hardware

2002-11-04 Thread John Sadler


- Original Message -
From: "Marcel Kilgus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ql-users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL Hardware


>
> John Sadler wrote:
> > It is possible to create an assembler which will take 680?0 code and
create
> > Intel machine code output.
>
> How? There's much more to it than a simple "move.l is called mov on
> Intel".
>

In principle the same way as a RISC compiler handles higher level
instructions.
Though it may be that modern Intel or AMD chips do not have enough
registers.
Somewhere I got the impression that Athlon and AMD and the Pentium chips
were RISC chips with a hardware layer which converted Intel instructions to
RISC instructions, but that may have changed if it existed. If so could one
access the RISC instructions and registers directly?

> > I think Marcel and allied programmers have the knowledge to create a
virtual
> > machine which can use the Windows drivers.
>
> Way ahead of you. I called the product QPC ;-) A version with a JIT
> compiler would be nice, but that's far too much work for me. Probably
> as a dissertation when one has got halve a year time to design and
> implement. But that's unlikely.
>

Does that mean to say QPC is an emulator in principle?
Does that mean that QPC runs a lot slower because of the emulation?

> Marcel
>

Which should come first for QPC?
JIT
6020+ & FPU emulation

I suppose the answer depends on what do your customers use the QL for?
Probably tinkering and hence the answer neither.




[ql-users] ZX Emulators

2002-11-04 Thread Φοίβος Ρ. Ντόκος

Hi all,
anyone knows where I can get the complete version of Zm/HT 
and ZeXCel? I understand Ergon released them in the PD but 
the files out there don't have the full set of utilities etc...


I was also wondering if anyone of Ergon fame is listening if 
they also plan to release the sources as we could update the 
emulators to use Gd2 (therefore having the full Spectrum 
palette... and even be able to play games like Karnov the way 
they were supposed to look :-)


Phoebus





[ql-users] 10BaseT Ethernet on the Q40/And of course a stupid question :-)

2002-11-04 Thread Malcolm Cadman

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Timothy
Swenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>At 12:52 AM 11/4/2002 +, you wrote:
>
>> >> Thierry Godefroy knows, I'm sure
>> >
>> >Has anybody heard of him lately?
>
>Being a French Naval Officer, the odds are that Thierry might be at sea and 
>out of communication.

Yes, he did say that he off on a posting for around one year.

( Although I suspect he has a portable computer with him ).

-- 
Malcolm Cadman



Re: [ql-users] Dithering algorithms

2002-11-04 Thread Malcolm Cadman

In article ,
=?windows-1253?Q?=D6=EF=DF=E2=EF=F2=20=D1.=20=CD=F4=FC=EA=EF=F2?=
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>Ôçí 3/11/2002 1:21:46 ìì, ï/ç Malcolm Cadman 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ýãñáøå:
>
>>
>>In article @quantumcentral>,
>>=?windows-1253?Q?=D6=EF=DF=E2=EF=F2=20=D1.=20
>=CD=F4=FC=EA=EF=F2?=
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>
>
>It is plain text (Opera mailer only sends plain text) but set to 
>Windows-1253 (Greek) codepage which some 7bit ascii mailers 
>or non-international aware mailers misinterpret but that's 
>only my header ;-) What that thing says is "Phoebus R. Dokos 
>" well, it's a tradeoff I have to make... the other option is to 
>set it to UTF-8 and pray for the best ;-)

Ah ... see above for what I see of your emails.

Turnpike gives the unrecognised character set - 'Chinese symbol' - and
prompts for the email to be read in Notepad.

>>>From my RISC-OS graphic programs, they usually give the 
>option of Floyd-
>>Steinberg, amongst some others ( from memory ).
>>
>>Maybe you can have a tick box system to set the options 
>required ?
>
>Certainly, it does have the option to switch dithering methods 
>and certainly the Floyd-Steinberg will be included...

OK ... I've just put my hand on the manual for a program called
'ImageFS' for the RISC-OS, which acts as a graphic file system ...
giving conversions 'on the fly' for various graphic formats.

As you know, in RISC-OS the standard is 'Sprite', and on the QL it is
'SCR' or 'PIC'.  So the 'native' system needs to be able to deal with as
many of the other types as possible ... 'GIF', 'TIFF', 'BMP', 'JPEG'
etc, etc ... for conversions.  Which can be either way, which is very
useful.

This short quote from a page in the manual may help you with your
thinking around your program :-

"When SPRITE FORMAT is set to OLD, any 16 0r 32 bpp sprites will be
reduced to 8 bit equivalents on-the-fly. The method used to converts
these photo-realistic 16/32 bpp images into images with a limited number
of colours ( 8 bpp ) is set by the DIFFUSION setting.

Because the colour reduction loses picture information, DIFFUSION will
try to scatter the remaining picture data to improve picture quality.
Two methods ( SIMPLE or FLOYD-STEINBERG ) can be employed or the setting
can be turned off using NONE ( in which case colour reduction will still
take place but without this scattering technique ).

The choice of method here depends on personal preference and the type of
picture being loaded.  FLOYD-STEINBERG tends to give the best results
for photographic images, while SIMPLE or NONE at all are better for
simple line-art illustrations."

Note : 8 bpp Sprites ( OLD ) are a fixed 256 colour palette,  ( NEW )
deep Sprites are 16/32 bpp.

-- 
Malcolm Cadman



Re: [ql-users] Re: All Greek to me! (OT)

2002-11-04 Thread Malcolm Cadman

In article <4XROLHA9PSM6Z2WOJXR4A8UQYWWU.3dc5a5f9@quantumcentral>,
=?windows-1253?Q?=D6=EF=DF=E2=EF=F2=20=D1.=20=CD=F4=FC=EA=EF=F2?=
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

>And a bit of greeklish so Malcolm won't complain...
>Greeklish starts here-
>Den moy les, kairo diavazeis th lista; Pws kai den les kammia 
>koyventa kai plhtoyme monoi mas emeis oi Ellhnes ths 
>jenhtias;;;
>
>Greeklish stopped above-

He .. he ... I don't mind the Greeklish :-) ... it was the 'Windows-
1253'

-- 
Malcolm Cadman



Re: [ql-users] Email header...

2002-11-04 Thread Malcolm Cadman

In article ,
=?windows-1253?Q?=D6=EF=DF=E2=EF=F2=20=D1.=20=CD=F4=FC=EA=EF=F2?=
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>Ôçí 3/11/2002 1:21:46 ìì, ï/ç Malcolm Cadman 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ýãñáøå:
>
>>
>
>That's an excerpt from header:
>
>Message-Id:
>@quantumcentral>
>ÈÝìá:
>Dithering algorithms
>MIME-Version:
>1.0
>Content-Type:
>text/plain; charset="windows-1253" 

  Its the charset :-(

>---^ as you can see it is text/plain :-)
>
>
>X-Mailer:
>Opera 6.05 build 1140

-- 
Malcolm Cadman



Re: [ql-users] RE: crib program

2002-11-04 Thread Arnold Clarke



 

  Crib work using my copy of QPC 3.03, I taken it fromthe list 
loaded with a=respr(32976)and saved back with :sexec 
ram1_crib_exe,a,32976,1And it run quite wellCiao
  I too have tried this and confirm that it works very well on QPC 
  II v3.03 under Win 98 - maybe it is Arnold's version of Windows, or possibly 
  the dataspace value we have created in the sexec line...Thanks all for 
  your help and I now have crib loaded.
   
  but.
   
  having loaded it up, and getting it set up for me to take the 
  computer on,  it deals out two hands, I discard my two cards into the 
  box, cut for the turn up, and the pointer disappears
   
  and it locks up.
   
  Arnold


Re: [ql-users] Re: Soql and Slattach

2002-11-04 Thread Jonathan Dent

Tarquin Mills writes:

>
> Please can you help me.
>   How do you use slattach and Soql together, what IP address should
> Soql be set to? Soql prints shared port, but slstat said no packets
> have moved. So I then ran sm, which waits then says it cannot run
> Soql. I know this email is a bit short but my first version was
> wiped out in a crash. My computer is Sinclair QL with JS ROM, SGC,
> ser1h baud 4800, flp2_.
>   I have read some of the QL Hardware thread and wondered what the
> fastest 68K compatible processor is for floating point, the fastest
> QL that I know of is the 66MHz Q60. I would like at least several
> hundred MHz for Seti, though I realise that this is probably not
> possible.
> --
>

I've never used "slattach" myself so can't be much help, but I've just read
in LINUX network administrator's guide (O'Reily) that you have to use
"ifconfig" and "route" to configure the network interface. "slattach" just
deals with switching the line discipline of a ttyS interface to SLIP.

I use "dip -t" which allows you to set up the variables $remote and $local
to
ip addresses. Set soql to the same address as $remote.
--
Jon.






Re: [ql-users] a small but perfectly formed update to QDOS INTERNALS website

2002-11-04 Thread Bill Waugh


- Original Message -
From: "Tony Firshman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] a small but perfectly formed update to QDOS
INTERNALS website



On  Mon, 4 Nov 2002 at 08:57:21,  wrote:
(ref: <3DC63671.8337.69C9FB@localhost>)

>
>On 25 Oct 2002, at 23:58, Tony Firshman wrote:
>
>>
>> How about someone being appointed as a name server.
>> Anyone adding to QDOS/SMSQ for general release should register the
name
>> with one person.
>
>Well, François van Emelem is IT!!!
Great.
What is his email?
I don't seem to have him on the Ql emailshot list - at least no 'emelem'

Would that be the famous QL rapper then

All the best - Bill
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Re: [ql-users] Sbasic names

2002-11-04 Thread Tony Firshman

On  Mon, 4 Nov 2002 at 12:06:12,  wrote:
(ref: <3DC662B4.28097.116B598@localhost>)

>
>On 4 Nov 2002, at 9:06, Tony Firshman wrote:
>
>>
>> What is his email?
>> I don't seem to have him on the Ql emailshot list - at least
>> no 'emelem'
>How about Van Emelen?
>He does post on the list here...
>François Van Emelen 
Ah yes - I have him on the emailshot list.
I must have mistyped 'emelen' - sorry.

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Re: [ql-users] QL Hardware

2002-11-04 Thread Φοίβος Ρ. Ντόκος

??? 4/11/2002 2:57:21 ??, ?/? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??:

>
>On 2 Nov 2002, at 10:56, Öïßâïò Ñ. Íôüêïò wrote:
>(...)
>> There are indeed several Assembler translators out there 
that can make
>> SMSQ/E run natively on practically everything. This will 
generate two
>> additional problems:
>
>And another one : how to you debug that? You'd have to 
know Intel 
>assembler in addition to 68K assembler...
>

True! (although if you are talking about x86 there are many 
freely available. Even MASM for example comes with the 
Windows SDK and you can get if for free... not that I would 
EVER try to mess with x86 assembly ;-))

>> .. I also disagree with the S*BASIC being so
>> tightly integrated with the system
>
>That's something I don't really understand. Sbasic is there, 
but you 
>don't have to use it. Why is it a problem that it is already in 
the 
>system?
>You can always write another shell.

I never said you can't. Tony himself has written on the subject 
and you can write whatever kind of shell you want that's true 
:-) The problem is how can "tight" it is into the system and 
how many things that are done by SMSQ/E are performed with 
the assumption of S*Basic being there?

>
>> That still says something ;-)
>> 
>QL forever!
>

I'm with you :-)

Phoebus






Re: [ql-users] Development

2002-11-04 Thread Φοίβος Ρ. Ντόκος

??? 4/11/2002 2:57:21 ??, ?/? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??:

>
>On 2 Nov 2002, at 14:56, Marcel Kilgus wrote:
>
>
>> 
>> Then I'll have one pepperoni pizza please :-)
>Watch it Per, Marcel is one great pizza fan...

Which proves Geoff's statement... Greeks (or their 
inventions... ie Pizza ;-)  are everywhere ;-). "Our" legacy 
does affect even Marcel :-P hehehehe 

>
>
>> (...). Yes, QPC is not the cheapest software on earth, I 
know that.
>
>Personally, I think it is pretty cheap, considering what you 
get for it.
>Just to avoid getting accused of a pro-QPC bias (and why 
couldn't I 
>have one, but well, that's another can of worms) let me 
hasten to 
>add that I also think that the Q60 is also worth the money...
>

I believe that both statements are absolutely right... Both 
products serve their own purpose and both are VERY well 
done There's nothing w/o pros and cons of course and as 
for example the Q60 is expensive, so on the other hand QPC 
runs on Windows ;-) (Hehehehe just joking here don't shoot)...
Seriously though, being the owner of a Q40 (as of yesterday... 
don't have it in my hands yet) AND qpc I can tell you that 
there's no reason why someone can't have both (if one can 
afford both although with the price of QPC where it is at 
now... it simplifies the choice)


Phoebus






Re: [ql-users] 10BaseT Ethernet on the Q40/And of course a stupid question :-)

2002-11-04 Thread Φοίβος Ρ. Ντόκος

??? 4/11/2002 2:57:21 ??, ?/? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??:

>
>On 3 Nov 2002, at 18:38, Öïßâïò Ñ. Íôüêïò wrote:
>
>> ? don't have them... YET :-) Just getting into gear here 
marcel  :-)
>I can send you the CD if you want!


Oh I do want it :-) I just never got around sending you the 
IRCs and an empty CD :-)

Phoebus






Re: Fw: [ql-users] Toolkit Extensions

2002-11-04 Thread François Van Emelen

John G Hitchcock wrote:


=COPY=  The original is lost in cyberspace anyone seen it please?

- Original Message - 
From: "John G Hitchcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Toolkit Extensions


: >[ A MIME text / plain part was included here. ]
: 
: Malcolm said -
: 
: Very nice list, John.
: 
: This should get published in the 2 QL magazines - Quanta and QL Today.
: As there are others who do not subscribe to this list who would find it
: useful.  Send a copy to the respective editors.
: 
: ==
: Thank you Malcolm.  Dilwyn had a copy already. 
: 
: Re: QUANTA
: Are you there Bruce?  Help yourself please!
: 
: Regards to all
: 
: John in Wales
 




I have!
françois Van Emelen





Fw: [ql-users] Toolkit Extensions

2002-11-04 Thread John G Hitchcock

=COPY=  The original is lost in cyberspace anyone seen it please?

- Original Message - 
From: "John G Hitchcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Toolkit Extensions


: >[ A MIME text / plain part was included here. ]
: 
: Malcolm said -
: 
: Very nice list, John.
: 
: This should get published in the 2 QL magazines - Quanta and QL Today.
: As there are others who do not subscribe to this list who would find it
: useful.  Send a copy to the respective editors.
: 
: ==
: Thank you Malcolm.  Dilwyn had a copy already. 
: 
: Re: QUANTA
: Are you there Bruce?  Help yourself please!
: 
: Regards to all
: 
: John in Wales
 




Re: [ql-users] 10BaseT Ethernet on the Q40/And of course a stupid question :-)

2002-11-04 Thread P Witte

Öïßâïò Ñ. Íôüêïò writes:

> In 10 minutes I'll be the proud owner of a Q40 (Yipe!!! :-)
> which begs the question anyone knows of a 10BaseT
> Ethernet ISA adapter that works with it? I don't want to get a
> 10Base2 one and then have to find a Twisted Pair converter
> for the coaxial.

Now now. Name calling has no place on this list! Twisted Pair, indeed!

Per





Re: [ql-users] Sbasic names

2002-11-04 Thread wlenerz

On 4 Nov 2002, at 9:06, Tony Firshman wrote:

>
> What is his email?
> I don't seem to have him on the Ql emailshot list - at least
> no 'emelem'
How about Van Emelen?
He does post on the list here...
François Van Emelen 

Wolfgang



Re: [ql-users] a small but perfectly formed update to QDOS INTERNALS website

2002-11-04 Thread Tony Firshman

On  Mon, 4 Nov 2002 at 08:57:21,  wrote:
(ref: <3DC63671.8337.69C9FB@localhost>)

>
>On 25 Oct 2002, at 23:58, Tony Firshman wrote:
>
>>
>> How about someone being appointed as a name server.
>> Anyone adding to QDOS/SMSQ for general release should register the name
>> with one person.
>
>Well, François van Emelem is IT!!!
Great.
What is his email?
I don't seem to have him on the Ql emailshot list - at least no 'emelem'

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Re: [ql-users] 10BaseT Ethernet on the Q40/And of course a stupid question :-)

2002-11-04 Thread wlenerz

On 3 Nov 2002, at 18:38, Öïßâïò Ñ. Íôüêïò wrote:

> ? don't have them... YET :-) Just getting into gear here marcel  :-)
I can send you the CD if you want!

Wolfgang



Re: [ql-users] Development

2002-11-04 Thread wlenerz

On 2 Nov 2002, at 14:56, Marcel Kilgus wrote:


> 
> Then I'll have one pepperoni pizza please :-)
Watch it Per, Marcel is one great pizza fan...

> (...)Of
> course, if we had "released SMSQ/E into freedom" instead of into the
> licence as it is, there would now be zillions of developers around and
> Wolfgang would have to register them 24 hours per day. NOT!

Ahem. My thoughts exactly.


> (...). Yes, QPC is not the cheapest software on earth, I know that.

Personally, I think it is pretty cheap, considering what you get for it.
Just to avoid getting accused of a pro-QPC bias (and why couldn't I 
have one, but well, that's another can of worms) let me hasten to 
add that I also think that the Q60 is also worth the money...


Wolfgang




Re: [ql-users] a small but perfectly formed update to QDOS INTERNALS website

2002-11-04 Thread wlenerz

On 25 Oct 2002, at 23:58, Tony Firshman wrote:

>
> How about someone being appointed as a name server.
> Anyone adding to QDOS/SMSQ for general release should register the name
> with one person.

Well, François van Emelem is IT!!!

Wolfgang



Re: [ql-users] Development

2002-11-04 Thread wlenerz

On 2 Nov 2002, at 12:07, P Witte wrote:

>
> Wlenerz had just told me that there were only *two* confirmed SMSQ/E
> "developers"
Well, there are also:

Fabrizio Diversi, who modestly only says that he accepts to be a
tester for new versions, but is also doing some Q60 related stuff.
Jerôme Grimbert had also announced he would participate.
Timothy Swenson tackles the task of trying to put some order into
the documentation.

> Of course there are other activities than kernel hacking that go
> towards making the QL a better system and help to keep it up to date,
Such as the list of basic keywords. François van Emelen has
offered to do that part of the job - please send him your emails in
this respect. For the three persons who have already sent me
emails, don't worry, I'm forwarding them.

(Lack of developpers)

I'm afraid I thaought that this was going to happen and I thnik I
stated this already. Of course, Richard Zildlicky will tell us, as he
already did (I think it was him) that this was a self fulfilling
prophecy since people like him wouldn't participate under this
abominable licence...

Somehow, I still have my doubts...
Wolfgang



Re: [ql-users] QL Hardware

2002-11-04 Thread wlenerz

On 2 Nov 2002, at 10:56, Öïßâïò Ñ. Íôüêïò wrote:
(...)
> There are indeed several Assembler translators out there that can make
> SMSQ/E run natively on practically everything. This will generate two
> additional problems:

And another one : how to you debug that? You'd have to know Intel
assembler in addition to 68K assembler...

> .. I also disagree with the S*BASIC being so
> tightly integrated with the system

That's something I don't really understand. Sbasic is there, but you
don't have to use it. Why is it a problem that it is already in the
system?
You can always write another shell.

> That still says something ;-)
>
QL forever!

Wolfgang