Re: [ql-users] Birthday QL 2004
Hi Tony, Fabrizio Diversi has a Web site up an running on a Q60 with Linux, I am not sure if it accessible all the time. Derek - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Birthday QL 2004 On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 at 08:48:57, =?iso-8859-7?B?IlBob2VidXMgUi4gRG9rb3MgKNbv3+Lv8iDRLiDN9Pzq7/IpIg==?= wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 22:01:38 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be bringing a wifi access points and two pci wifi cards, and a good length of RJ45 cable. Could we install this on your PC? What speed is your Motorola connection? I guess though it is not free. Could you also bring a PC set up with a free AOL sub? That might give us two internet connections. As for the RJ45 cable that would be interesting to network the Q40 with the PCs wouldn't it ? I run Samba here so it would be fun to watch a Q40 serving Windows XP (or whatever everybody uses) :-P It would indeed. I have an smb link at home, and my debian powered machine is the internet gateway and dhcp server. Now that would be interesting - the Q40 as the internet server, but that (I assume) couldn't be the free AOL connection. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Birthday QL 2004
Hi Phoebus, Why use WIndows XP and AOL they are both no good... Derek - Original Message - From: Phoebus R. Dokos ( . ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Birthday QL 2004 On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:42:52 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 at 12:03:52, =?iso-8859-7?B?IlBob2VidXMgUi4gRG9rb3MgKNbv3+Lv8iDRLiDN9Pzq7/IpIg==?= wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I doubt that an AOL connection can be shared, however a regular connection can :-) Ah is that so. They override the XP setting then do they? Can you think of a way around this? Well theoretically, once the connection is open then you can use an XP machine as a gateway instead of the router (I use the router even for modem-based calls and AOL is definitely not compatible with that) But that also would mean that the Qx0 will serve the XP but also be served by the XP (as a method of internet connection that is) As we say in Greece: Windmill :-) Phoebus -- Visit the QL-FAQ at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/faq/ (Still uploading stuff!) Visit the uQLX-win32 homepage at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlx.html Visit the uQLX-mac home page at:http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlxmac.html
Re: [ql-users] Atari Disks
Roy, The Atari ST can read PC formatted disks, but not HD disks, only 720K or DD disks Derek - Original Message - From: Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 1:15 AM Subject: [ql-users] Atari Disks I have been asked, by a customer, to supply a copy of the Atari SMSQ/E. Unfortunately I do not have any Atari format floppies and he has no way to get the files onto his machine. Can anyone send me a couple of formatted disks. I will return new one to them by return post. This is somewhat urgent as the customer is in London for only a few day. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex. Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk
Re: [ql-users] No Virus Now - Maybe
Dilwyn, SMSQ/E can have different Langauges included, how about Welsh being an option to be included. The language files could be loaded at boot. And as you know, I lived in Newcastle Upon Tyne for 9 long years... I suppose the Geordie lanuage could be installed. Wot Ye saay Hennie... I think I need Bill to help out here. Derek - Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: QL Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] No Virus Now - Maybe I wonder what QL or SMSQE would be in Welsh (on topic again) Wolfgang Err, I'd never thought about it, and now realised (in English) one possible translated acronym for SMSQ is not a nice four letter word. Could always contrive a more polite one I suppose. Assuming that SMSQ stands for Single-user Multitasking System QL of course. QL: if you accept that Quantum Leap is smallest possible leap, it would be Cam Bach (CB) or Cam Mawr CM (if Quantum Leap is interpreted as a giant leap) As the Welsh alphabet has no letter Q (c is used for hard c, k and q and s for sibilant c and s - why have more than one letter for a sound which is the same?) this is unlikely to...ah never mind. On the other hand, I did once patch Config to have all Welsh prompts which was alll well and good until I accidentally sent it to someone on a DJC disk and probably confused him somewhat. If you aren't sorry you started this by now you never will be. -- Dilwyn Jones
[ql-users] No Virus Now - Maybe
Hi, Had 3 worms, and a handful of Trojans. No horses though. My fault for using a crap operating system like Windows. Derek
[ql-users] Cheap QXL Wanted
Hi, I am looking foe a cheap QXL card for Amstrad ALT-286 portable I have. Derek
Re: [ql-users] Microdrives for Q40
I have located a company in the UK that can supply the stico Associated Group. (PAC) mod. 421v2.hs. There is a lead time of a couple of weeks due the interface being new. If I can get enough interest, I can order some in bulk, which would drive the price down. Please send me an email if you are interested. Derek - Original Message - From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 8:26 AM Subject: [ql-users] Microdrives for Q40 I know ql-developers is little read. This might be of interest (It cost Fabrizio E42). Microdrives are back (8-)# BTW I wonder if Sinclair trademarked the name? If he did, then he might earn more money suing IBM than he did off the QL. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 9:22 AM Subject: [ql-developers] CF Reader for Q60 Ciao, first, glad to see that the ql-developers list is up again. I have just upgraded the Q60 with a new CF Reader from Prestico Associated Group. (PAC) mod. 412v2.hs. It has an ATA to standard IDE interface 2 Front Slot and Supports Type I/II ATA Flash, ATA HDD and Type I/II Compact Flash Cards through 68-pin PCMCIA connector 50-pin Compact Flash connector The hot swap function works fine and also 1GB IBM Microdrive . Hi Fabrizio, I think you mean C.M.-IDE-421.HS (V2). The unit looks very nice, I have asked the UK supplier how much they retail at. Derek -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] DJC 16
Hi Dilwyn, I like 10 pint jokes, that is you need 10 pints of beer to appreciate them. Derek - Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] DJC 16 The reg number DJC seems to have been one for this area under the old system - there are quite a few around here. Red Porsche? Me? Will stick to my (t)rusty old 309 thank you! What time is it when two 309's pass each other? Tin past tin. (You're sorry you mentioned this now aren't you, Derek!) Dilwyn - Original Message - From: Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:05 PM Subject: [ql-users] DJC 16 Hi, I was going up the M6 in England, last week just North of Stoke to see my girlfriend, when a red Porsche flew pasted me with the registration number DJC 16 I wondered where Dilwyn was going in such a rush. Derek
[ql-users] DJC 16
Hi, I was going up the M6 in England, last week just North of Stoke to see my girlfriend, when a red Porsche flew pasted me with the registration number DJC 16 I wondered where Dilwyn was going in such a rush. Derek
Re: [ql-users] RFC
Why not make the key a definable hotkey, so that the user can dfine it to any keystroke they want. This would also bring use of the function to older programs. Derek - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 6:45 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] RFC On 26 Sep 2003 at 0:04, P Witte wrote: (...) Are you thinking of buffering output sent to each scr/con channel, or are you thinking of using OCR, as in Qlip, or something else? and On 25 Sep 2003 at 17:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (...) The prblem comes when you want to highlight an area of text to copy :-) Whoa there! This is all much too complicated. This little trick only does the following: put into the stuffer buffer (all of) the characters that have been entered in a read/edit line trap so far. No OCR, no QLip, no highlighting, no fancy stuff. This is all not needed because the trap knows what characters there are. Per : I think it is a good idea. Great that you are prepared to do it! Might it be an idea to add some kind of test for this functionality (eg set a bit on some sysvar), as application programmers may wish to eg provide a limited functionality on systems that dont support it. Do you mean that the application programmer will build this facility into his program (via some special keystroke or menu item?) so that , for example, in QDOS this can also be achieved? Well, then it would simply be possible to achive it with 2 different methods on an SMSQ/E system. (remember, as Marcel rightly points out, the keystroke is trapped anyway, the application doesn't even get it) CTRL-C is, of course, out of the question, as that is used elsewhere. Couldnt this also be an Smsq/e configurable item (Im aware that it is easy enough to do as a POKE, but..) together with the Hotstuff keys, F10, and anything else that may crop up? Per Yes, it could be. Personally, I'm not so sure that it is really such a good idea, I like the idea of systemwide unified keystrokes. Everybody knows not to use CTRL-C in one's applications because it is a fixed system wide keystroke. Same for CTRL F5 for screen freeze, or Alt Enter etc Some of these may be changeable via POKEs in the sysvars, but in general, they are fairly constant over all systems. For the new keystroke I'll probably foresee some kind of configuration item, since I realistically can't really know that it will work in all circumstances at all times Rich: Hmm - I had forgotten this !! Mind you, as it is only copy into the current buffer, perhaps the solution would be for the operating system to show up a pop-up window (under WMAN) to select : 1. Copy current line into buffer 2. Refresh screen Again, this is much too complicated. Especially under programs that don't use the Pointer Environmant, you'll get all kinds of problems popping up a WMAN window in a non managed job. Talking about the specific problem (F10 = shift F5, used as screen refresh in some programs): These programs do not use the read/edit line trap. They would not benefit from my little extension anyway, and would have no problem with the use of this key. Wolfgang
Re: [ql-users] RFC
Hi Jerome, I have also done this with the middle button of the mouse, it making selecting the QPAC2 programs very nice indeed. I think everything should be configurable. Derek - Original Message - From: Jerome Grimbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] RFC Derek Stewart makes some magical things to make me read } } Why not make the key a definable hotkey, so that the user can dfine it to } any keystroke they want. This would also bring use of the function to older } programs. YES!, the most sensical approach. Just like we have a definition for the mouse-button-3 which is user-configurable. (mine default to ALT-], which is mapped to qpac2/pick
Re: [ql-users] sernet
Sernet works on all SMSQ/E systems and also non-SMSQ/E systems with SIMSER. On a QL with Superhermes, you will have to use SER1 or SER2. The superhermes SER3 failed to connect on my serial network. I think is is a limitation of the SER3 device driver. And if it did work it would only be 57600 baud Q60 to QPC2 is no problem connects first time with a standard null modem cable from Maplins Electronics or any good electronics shop. Connection speed is 115200 baud. Derek
[ql-users] CFD Devices
HI, There is no benfit of using 80 wire IDE cables, as the IDE controller can not take advantage of the higher speeds like on PCs... I have build many PCs, and it does not matter where to the CDROM is or device on the IDE cable. Unless it using 80 wire conductors or uses cable select. The CFD devices work great on the Q60, but I have had intermittent results on the hot swap version. Which is strange as, one would think that the Hot-Swap would be that same as the Non-Hot-Swap. Anyway the CFD devices look a ittle too expensive at present. Derek
Re: [ql-users] (Announce) SuperBasic syntax highlighter for free...
I have always found the Syntax highlighting in Microemacs very good. In fact I would say, it the Microemacs editor is one of the best programs around. It is hard to believe that it is PD software Derek - Original Message - From: Timothy Swenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 3:47 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] (Announce) SuperBasic syntax highlighter for free... At 04:51 PM 7/31/2003 +0100, you wrote: I wish I knew how to get it working though. Malcolm MicroEmacs is fairly easy to get started. If I remember correctly, you just need to have the .rc file set aside at a certain location and then have an environment variable tell MicroEmacs where to find it. I have all my environment variables set via my boot script. The MicroEmacs documentation is pretty good, esp. the docs that Thierry wrote on just the QL port. I do find that as MicroEmacs adds more features (like syntax highlighting), it's bogging down on my Gold Card QL. But on the Q40, I never noticed any delays. A lot of the neat features of MicroEmacs on the QL are only specific to the QL version and have been added on my Thierry. Adding Menu support, Syntax Highlighting, spell checking, etc. really make the QL version the best version out there. Tim Swenson
Re: [ql-users] ALT-ENTER
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002 13:08:11 -0500 Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I wonder if anyone has had problems with ALT-ENTER on the Q40... Mine doesn't work at all... anyone has any ideas? Also anybody knows if CueShell works with SMSQ/E 2y99? Phoebus Hi Phoebus, You have to define the ALT-ENTER keystroke, it is the same for all SMSQ/E machines. Derek
Re: [ql-users] One box or two
Hi Bill, Why not have both boxes ?? I have both a Q60 and QPC2 v3 (recently updated at the London Show), which just does to show you can have both systems running. OK, I am part of the firm making the Q60, but I do not see why, I can not support all the software writers and other hardware manufacturers, as you see I like the QL in what ever shape or form it takes. Derek
Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
Hi, I am comming to the London Show with a Q60, I hiope things can be sensible. I just wish I could receive 90-100 emails about program development on SMSQ/E, as there is really a lag in the quality development. It is all very well having a good operating system, but where are the upto date applications. It is looking like some people only like to talk about doom and gloom, well that is what the Microsoft Windows project was all about. Derek
Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
On Sat, 09 Nov 2002 13:15:30 -0500 Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ??? 9/11/2002 1:42:33 ??, ?/? Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: Hi, I am comming to the London Show with a Q60, I hiope things can be sensible. I just wish I could receive 90-100 emails about program development on SMSQ/E, as there is really a lag in the quality development. Well here's one ... Q-Word will support the following features on the Qx0: 1. Digital Sound 2. High Colour Graphics 3. Multi-colour Bitmap Founts :-) How's that? Do you want a screenshot too? Phoebus Hi Phoebus, Sounds great, tell me when you are going to market the program as I will certainly buy a copy from you. Or if you like I can Beta test it on the Q60, QPC, Atari-QL etc ... as I have all the set of SMSQ/E favours. Must what is called supporting the software writers, pity it is not retrospective. Derek
Re: [ql-users] Ooo! What's happened
Oh, please - everyone has been waiting for this issue to be resolved. Now that he has sent you an email, I sincerely hope it will, and OFF LIST. The forst thing that popped in my mind after I read this was 'how old are you'? ^^^ Is this anything to do with the Forst that Bob Weeks described on the INTL.QL on the Fidonet I think it was a drink induced image... Derek
Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
Hi Roy, Rowing again On Sat, 9 Nov 2002 19:31:37 + Roy Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message 00a401c287fe$d067c620$4f6887d9@asusone, dndsystems1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes DD, according to their adverts, are selling a patched version. This is precisely what Wolfgang is striving to avoid. You're not still on about that are you, I can't belive it. Look at it like this there are 2 versions of 2.98, the first was flawed, the second was fixed. The second version makes the Q60 behave like other platforms _adding_ to uniformity across platforms. The first version makes the Q60 behave like nothing else because it is wrong. You seem to deliberately want to misunderstand the concepts here. Your 'patched version' made my Q40 crash. It was, therefore, not fully correct either. Had you taken the trouble to become resellers and had you wanted to you could have submitted the patched code to Wolfgang and had it tested and incorporated into the system. You did none of these things and you made no attempt to find out why it crashed my Q 40 at Hove. 'It works on the machine I am selling so that is all I need to know' is not good enough if you are to lay any claim to be part of the system. If I remember correctly, you asked me for a copy to try on your Q40, when you came back, and said that it did not work, I said, when get a Q60 it is better than the Q40. As you see we were there to sell the Q60. There have been many occasions where users have reported things to me that crashed on their system and worked on mine but I always made the effort to try to find out why. This is called support. If you patch a version of SMSQ/E and distribute it will get out to other systems because we are all in communication (mostly) and other people will try it out on other machines and then..chaos. OK, I do understand the word support, it is a pity no one supported me. I have never patched any version of SMSQ/E, as if this is required, then the software writer has not done his job correctly, in producing a bug free piece of software. You could be saying there has to be a version of SMSQ/E specially for the Q60. If so you must discuss this with Wolfgang. This is inprogress I can not really see any way of exploiting a the native machines potential. This is a real sticking here and probably why there are no good applications programs for the SMSQ/E system now. OK, one is comming and I will buy it. No version of SMSQ/E for any platform other than QPC2 was created for release at a workshop. TT would never be left alone long enough to do it. There have been tweaks done at workshops but these were not distributed to the general public. OK, seems like a first, or is that a Bob Weeks/Nasta FORST The situation with the early Aurora was indeed chaotic I agree and I want to avoid a repetition of it. It is possible, therefore, that you ads mislead us when you said 'it has been corrected' Yes I agree, also add in Q40 SMSQ/E v2.92 to v2.98 which did not work correctly on the Q40 you sold me. I used the Q40 for BBS and until the details of the patch appeared in Quanta Volume 18 Issue 7 August 2001, the system did not work correctly. Phil Borman's BBS used to not send the mail to my BBS with the Pbox mailer due to the bug introduced, which the patch or bug fix correctly. If Mr Tebby had done job right then the code would not be patched. But since I could not get an eprom version it stayed on the shelf and the BBS moved back the Supergold card and it is now on QPC. Can we get on with programming the systems. Get all this interenet access sorted, I do not want to use Linux or Windows. Derek
Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst?
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 23:46:36 + Roy Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message 023001c286b2$90e7b480$91f4193e@asusone, dndsystems1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Roy Wood - read this. From Peter reguarding never ending story from you about illeagl versions. It was a bug in the memory manager. TT told me that he was desperately searching but could not find it. We tried to help him and Richard finally located it, and after some tests for reliability I submitted the bugfix to TT at 22.03.2001. At 15.05.2001 TT informed me that he had included the fix into his version. TT did not inform me about a new version number for this fix so I called it 2.98 patched instead of increasing the version number. Beyond that I have never distributed any patches. Is that clear? It is only a fix for a bug with the nickname of 'patched'. I told you about this bug fix face to face at Quanta Hove Feb 2002 and thought no more of it. Well? I was given a patched version at the Hove show which would not work on my Q 40. I was told 'buy a new Q60' - a verbatim quote. Not helpful to me and not helpful to the people who bought Q 40s from us and had problems. I suspect there were other changes in main chips on the Q40 after we sold them but that would be paranoia wouldn't it ? Whatever the point, this was still a change and therefore still illegal. It was never submitted to Wolfgang as source code. Not in the official release and therefore against the licence. You may say that TT said he had included it in his release but it was not in v 2.99 so he obviously didn't. As an official SMSQ/E reseller I was never passed this code as a new release. You actually had no rights to release it. Squirm how you want. -- Roy Wood Q Branch, 20 Locks Hill Portslade. Sussex. BN41 2LB. UK Tel : +44 (0)1273 386030 Fax : +44 (0)1273 430501 (New number!) Mobile +44(0)7836 745501 Web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk Well Roy, since I am the person you are quoting, why not quote all of what I said, which was - Buy a Q60 it is faster than a Q40 But I guess you will not remember this. Derek
Re: [ql-users] Mode 33
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:06:46 - Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } Convert mode 32 and 33 screens or PIC files to Windows graphics files } like BMP or GIF or JPG or whatever. I also have a pic2bmp program that work fine on my Q40 and QPC. (as well as with native mode 4 and mode 8!) What about the other way, say a BMP2PIC converter, as I want to use my Q60/QPC/Atari QL/QL to view the graphics files. Derek
Re: [ql-users] Calling DD
On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 17:48:25 +0100 Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis or Derek - I have been unable to contact you by email about the forthcoming show emailshot. Could you please contact me privately. I think my emails must be going astray/ Hi Tony, Not going astray, just been a little busy. Derek
Re: [ql-users] Q40 + QDOS Classic + Qubide
On Friday 06 September 2002 11:33 am, you wrote: Quiet in here innit? Did everyone OD on Guinness at/after the QL show and still suffering the mothers of all hangovers?? ;O) Can somebody enlighten me as to what a Qubide hard disk is? Is it a special hardware unlike a normal IDE disk and only available from one supplier? Is it a normal disk but supplied with some unique low level format? I tried to partition a harddisk using the partition_exe program from the qub156.zip. The disk had been partitioned previously but they had all been deleted using a Linux fdisk. The partition_exe program detected the disk device but complained when trying to create a partition that it was not a Qubide disk. Is some other preparation procedure needed to turn a normal IDE disk into a Qubide one? Ian. Hi Ian, I read this message in the QL-USERS mailing list, if you are using a Q40 with QDOS Classic, then the code in QDOS Classic is a Qubide v1.56 module, which acts in the same way as a Qubide on a QL. I think that partition 1 has always to exist before you can use the partition program. But maybe wrong here Try format Win1_ to a small figure, then execute the partition_exe program and alter the partition definitions. I have had a Q60 Qdos Classic on rom using the partition program OK. Try seeing which version of Partition program you are using, as there were bugs in earlier versions. Derek
Re: [ql-users] SMSQ Source styleguide
On Tuesday 09 July 2002 6:39 am, you wrote: Hi all, enclosed is the styleguide. Wolfgang The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any another MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. File information --- File: styleguide_zip Date: 9 Jul 2002, 7:32 Size: 2938 bytes. Type: ZIP-archive Content-Type: Application/ZIP; charset=us-ascii; name=styleguide_zip Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-Description: Hi Wolfgang, The styleguide looks very good, but all the programs specified to compile the SMSQ/E source code are commerical. QMAC and QLINK maybe only available through QuantA QMAKE is available through Jochen Merz Software Is it your intension to make all these commerical programs available on the SMSQ/E CDROM disk. Derek
Re: [ql-users] SMSQ Source styleguide
Well I wish I never entered this message On Tuesday 09 July 2002 9:39 am, you wrote: This is very funny. Yes, let's have EVERYTHING for free No that is not waht I meant, people who want to compile SMSQ/E and have not got QMAC, QLINK and QMAKE will have to buy them. I did not say anything about them being free, of course they are, the people who have programmed the software deserve the money for thier efforts. ... and, Wolfgang, don't forget users with a QL and without harddisk - they can't compile the sources. Will you make sure that these people get the hardware on which they can do it for free as well? :-)) I'm sure there are lots of people out there who would not mind a free Q60... so ask for some more IRCs to cover the parcel price for the big package which will soon come with the sources CD, containing a machine, a monitor, and a coupon for free electricity. Really this is so silly, who say anything about FREE software No wonder things are drifting apart if this is the example of the comments made. Jochen p.s. QMAKE is not essential, but it adds a lot of convenience and speeds up the turnaround time considerably. And - interesting, I have not had a single inquiry about a QMAKE so far So it the Style guide an advert for the Qmake or Qmac Derek
[ql-users] Memory Card Types
Hi, I habe been looking at the type os Compact flash cards, a firm near where I live sells three type : Smartmedia Compact Flask Multi Media Which is the best for the Compact flash readers. Derek
