Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally)
Hi Mark I'm sending you soQL privately let me know if it doesn't arrive Jon. - Original Message - From: Mark Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:04 PM Subject: Re: QL freeware/open source? Was:[ql-users] OnT (Finally) Quoting Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED]: uQLx supports TCP/IP via the host for ages now and so is Q40 Linux (Q40 is a QL compatible www.q40.de in case you don't know). soQL is practically ready (for even vanilla QLs thanks to Jon Dent) and also a port of QL-uwIP for also vanilla QLs (and Q40s) I know about uQLx since I'm running it on one of my Solaris boxen. I'm also aware of the Q40/Q60 boards. What I didn't realize was that soQL was a complete IP stack, and not just a sockets library that relied on something else... I'll have to try to track soQL down now, since it sounds like I may be able to get ppp - ip working on it. Thanks for the update! So things are not that bad after all! I didn't think they were :) - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
Re: [ql-users] soQL Emailer almost ready
Sounds great I look forward to trying it. I've been giving some thougt to a WMAN front end. I've been strugling with CPTR though. It won't work on my uQLx setup and although I've followed J. M.Sadlers excelent article in QL Today Vol.7 Iss.6 I'm not sure how to continue. But perhapps I should be looking into adding an authentication to PPP first? I'd also like to do somthing about releasing the sources. I think CVS is a good idea to help coordinate development but I not sure about SourceForge. Any Ideas? By the way Phoebus did you manage to evaluate tht serial to ethernet converter you talked about some time ago on the list? Happy QLing Jon. - Original Message - From: Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: QL Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; QL Developers Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 8:45 PM Subject: [ql-users] soQL Emailer almost ready Hi all, this quick note to tell you that the soQL-based emailer that I am writing is almost on the testing phase. Although it seems like a long time has passed since I announced the project, problems with C68, my month long holidays and school, made me devote very little time on it. However come summer session end in College I will be able to accelerate and hopefully by mid to end of August I will have it available for a beta test. Please note that this is a text only application (Which means that whoever wants to write a WMAN front end to it is more than welcome ;-) Phoebus -- Phoebus Dokos - Undergrad in MIS Eberly College of Business - Indiana U. of PA
Re: [ql-users] SOQL PPP tests
Hello Claude Here is a short guide to what has to be done to set-up soql PPP. Unzip the zipfile: - The zip file is designed to be unzipped on flp1_ If you unzip it to another location you will have to edit the files boot and bootPPP in the APS_MAIL_ directory. Each file requires a single change to the Dev$ initialisation. You may want to change the port definition in bootPPP. See the readme_txt file for more information. There are two files you HAVE to edit: In DNSrecords_txt you need to add any names that have to be resolved into their Internet addresses. The most important names are the names of your pop3 and smtp servers. To convert them into the hexadecimal values stored in DNSrecords you could use ping to resolve the addresses into decimal dot form. See example below. The decimal dot form can be converted to the required hexadecimal form by converting each decimal number to a two digit hexadecimal number and combining them to the 8 digit form. This again can be seen in the example below. The program pop3 requires the name MAIL to resolvable into your pop3 mail servers address. This requires the same number to be entered for MAIL as was entered for your pop3 server. The file mail_dat is used by soqlMailer to define various parameters: name = Put the name to appear in your email here host = Put the bit of your email address which comes after @ here user = Put the bit of your email address which comes before @ here smtp = Put the address of your smtp server here e.g. smtp.freesurf.ch tz = Put your time zone here e.g. +0100 You may also like to define sigf = with the name of a file to be used as your signature file. This will be appended to all mails sent. Now please read the readme_txt to see how to use the package __ example host name resolution using ping: --- C:\WINDOWSping smtp.freesurf.ch PING smtp.freesurf.ch [194.230.0.8]: 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 128.63.240.80: icmp_seq=0 time=16 ms 64 bytes from 128.63.240.80: icmp_seq=1 time=9 ms 64 bytes from 128.63.240.80: icmp_seq=2 time=9 ms 64 bytes from 128.63.240.80: icmp_seq=3 time=8 ms 64 bytes from 128.63.240.80: icmp_seq=4 time=8 ms ^C The address is converted as follows: 194 is C2 in hexadecimal 230 is E6 in hexadecimal 0 is 00 in hexadecimal 8 is 08 in hexadecimal The DNSrecords_txt entry is then: smtp.freesurf.ch 0xC2E60008 - Original Message - From: Claude Mourier 00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:35 AM Subject: RE: [ql-users] SOQL PPP tests Could you explain a bit what configuration is needed for this test, as I don't know TCP-IP ? Claude -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoye : dimanche 9 mars 2003 13:32 A : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : [ql-users] SOQL PPP tests Hi I'm looking for volunteers to try out soql PPP in various countries. You need to find an Internet-by-call provider of which there seem to be plenty but I can only test swiss ones from here. Once connected you can use your usual email accounts if you can enter their URLs with hexadecimal equivelent in the TCP_DNSrecords_txt file. You need to have a bit of time to play about with it as there is no smooth human interface or automatic installation. but if you can read this it must be working:-) Jon.
[ql-users] SOQL PPP tests
Hi I'm looking for volunteers to try out soql PPP in various countries. You need to find an Internet-by-call provider of which there seem to be plenty but I can only test swiss ones from here. Once connected you can use your usual email accounts if you can enter their URLs with hexadecimal equivelent in the TCP_DNSrecords_txt file. You need to have a bit of time to play about with it as there is no smooth human interface or automatic installation. but if you can read this it must be working:-) Jon.
[ql-users] Test mail
Test mail testing PPP Yipee!! PPP is working on the QL :-) Still a bit of tidying-up to do before I release it though. from Jon.
Re: [ql-users] soql
Hi Arnie the s port lets you specify another port for soql see DOC_readme_txt for more details Jon. - Original Message - From: Arnold Clarke To: Quanta Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 8:27 PM Subject: [ql-users] soql Hi all, How can I get QPC2 to open to SER3 or, how can I change SOQL to use SER2?. Arnie
Re: [ql-users] SoQL and Dip -t -v
Ah! THAT sm... Well actually sm basically sets up some parameters and executes soqlmailer which is Jonathan Hudsons mailer compiled using the SOQL socket functions. One of the parameters passed to soqlmailer is -f mail_dat This file is missing I think from the .zip which I sent you :-( it should be in the DFT directory and have a content similar to: name = Jonathan Dent host = crosswinds.net smtp = mail.crosswinds.net user = jondent sigf = signature_txt The last entry is not necessary but, if there, then the file signature_txt will be appended to all mails. The host and smtp names will also have to be replaced with names appropriate to your set-up and be resolved in the DNSrecords_txt file. Sorry this got left out but hope you can now get connected all the best Jon. - Original Message - From: Tarquin Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] SoQL and Dip -t -v Jonathan Dent wrote: Tarquin Mills wrote: I am trying to get SoQL working with Dip but when sm is run it says Unknown Host PONs and then client then logs off. How can I get SoQL and Linux to work, and are there any articles on SoQLs use? Thanks in advance. Afraid I don't know sm and can't find it in my books. What are you trying to do with it? SM is not a Linux command, SM is Simple Mail the mail sending procedure in the boot file of SoQL. I am trying to send an email to the Debian Potato Linux box to show SoQL in action. -- Tarquin Mills ACCUS (Anglia Classic Computer Users Society) http://www.planet14.sonow4u.co.uk/comp/accus/
Re: [ql-users] SoQL and Dip -t -v
Hi Tarquin Afraid I don't know sm and can't find it in my books. What are you trying to do with it? I don't think there are any articles on using SoQL. I'm sorry the documentation is sparse. The library functions are based on the standard library functions though. If you need specific help I'll try to make time to answer your mails. You can mail me directly on this from: address or DENTatFREESURFdotCH. Jon. - Original Message - From: Tarquin Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 7:56 PM Subject: [ql-users] SoQL and Dip -t -v I am trying to get SoQL working with Dip but when sm is run it says Unknown Host PONs and then client then logs off. How can I get SoQL and Linux to work, and are there any articles on SoQLs use? Thanks in advance. -- Tarquin Mills ACCUS (Anglia Classic Computer Users Society) http://www.planet14.sonow4u.co.uk/comp/accus/
Re: [ql-users] QL Calendar for 2003
From: Malcolm Cadman snip So ... could we make a calender based on the QL and its Users - not a subject on everyone's lips - popular enough to sell to many people ? -- Malcolm Cadman How about: Everybody takes their QL stands in front of a local famous landmark and gets someone to photograph them. We could have QL with Eifeltower, QL and the Golden Gates, QL on the Eiger, QL on Britonbeach, QL and Big Ben, QL on the Snowdon Railway, QL grazing with Irish sheep... there that's 7 months already what do you think. I think we could aim for getting the pictures together by October 2003 (one taken per month would be nice but could be hard to coordinate) then publication by December 2003 for 2004. Jon.
Re: [ql-users] Re: Soql and Slattach
Tarquin Mills writes: Please can you help me. How do you use slattach and Soql together, what IP address should Soql be set to? Soql prints shared port, but slstat said no packets have moved. So I then ran sm, which waits then says it cannot run Soql. I know this email is a bit short but my first version was wiped out in a crash. My computer is Sinclair QL with JS ROM, SGC, ser1h baud 4800, flp2_. I have read some of the QL Hardware thread and wondered what the fastest 68K compatible processor is for floating point, the fastest QL that I know of is the 66MHz Q60. I would like at least several hundred MHz for Seti, though I realise that this is probably not possible. -- I've never used slattach myself so can't be much help, but I've just read in LINUX network administrator's guide (O'Reily) that you have to use ifconfig and route to configure the network interface. slattach just deals with switching the line discipline of a ttyS interface to SLIP. I use dip -t which allows you to set up the variables $remote and $local to ip addresses. Set soql to the same address as $remote. -- Jon.
Re: [ql-users] Linux on Q40
The soql ppp driver is managing to connect and negotiate for an IP address etc. I still have to debug the actual data transfer which (at least with ping) is only working in one direction at the moment. I'll need the SGC Aurora IDE/Ethernet interface before I can work on pppoe but maybe a more intelligent ADSL router/hub would be a simpler solution. (if more expensive) Jon. - Original Message - From: Fabrizio Diversi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Linux on Q40 I agree totally with you, I have Linux on both my machine Q60 and Q40, the Q40 is linked to a small ethernet Lan and the Q60 is regulary used to enter Internet via 56k modem. I have now a fast ADSL line and I am triing to connect the Q40 to internet with pppoe through the router. Now waiting Tcp/ip for smsqe. (any news ?) So Yippee also from me. Ciao Fabrizio --- Alex Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I met Derek and Dennis (D D Systems) last weekend, and they offered me an updated Linux CD designed for use with the Q60. I had already installed the earlier (and now definitely obsolete) Linux on my Q40, so this was an exciting development. It is called ShoeString Linux, and is based as before on the Red Hat distribution. The new installation proceeded (at its own pace!) with a few boot-floppy adjustments from Derek. He reminded me that I may have to swap the mouse plug on the IO board to restore mouse services - or reconfigure Linux. We swapped them and there was a new Linux with updated kernel, etc. The SmSQ OS works as before, but presumably the modem will need to be moved to ser2. So far I have only had a quick play with the 'IceWM' window manager, which looks very attractive and usable, and I need to do a LinuxConf session to set up the mail etc. There is also some documentation to read - so far I have only had a quick peek with Thierry's CD-eze in SmSQ. I understand from D D that this is the first attempt to install this very worth-while upgrade on a Q40, so we were delighted it was so easy. Many thanks to Richard Zidlicky and Claus Graf for their dedication and M68k skills. Yippee from Alex Wells. __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Re: [ql-users] soql
QPC: The soql engine will use other ser ports if you pass it a port option for example change the boot file line 270 para$ = q t d ram1_tryDNS r Tcp$ ipReceiver to 270 para$ = q t d ram1_tryDNS r Tcp$ ipReceiver s ser1 to use ser1 Aurora It could have many causes including an unsuitable provider. Let me know the telephone number of your provider and I'll try to check their suitability. We can look at some of the other causes afterwards Jon. - Original Message - From: AGClarke To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 5:37 PM Subject: [ql-users] soql Hi, On my laptop using qpc2v3, I cannot get it to connect to my modem as it cannot find ser3. On my aurora machine it connects to my modem and logs on but the input to my screen is not readable. I will await for replies with interest. needless to say I have tried everthing that I can to get things working but I need Help! Arnie
Re: [ql-users] soql
Looks like the providers trying to do a ppp connection. Maybe it will work with the ppp version of soql but that's not quite finished yet. I may be ready to do some testing next week. As there is no text based login I think it may be expecting chap or pap for user authentication. So as these won't be in the first ppp soql version it may still not work :-( The providers I've been using here work on a pay per call basis and thus require no particularly secure authentication and thus work without chap or pap. If your provider can't provide SLIP access I'm afraid you'll have to wait for the new soql version or try uqlx where you're able to use the underlying Linux TCP/IP stack. I don't no if QPC does anything similar. Jon. - Original Message - From: AGClarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] soql QPC: The soql engine will use other ser ports if you pass it a port option for example change the boot file line 270 para$ = q t d ram1_tryDNS r Tcp$ ipReceiver to 270 para$ = q t d ram1_tryDNS r Tcp$ ipReceiver s ser1 to use ser1 I get a report can.t find ser1(I have tried altering the configuration panel - how should it be set up?) Aurora It could have many causes including an unsuitable provider. Let me know the telephone number of your provider and I'll try to check their suitability. We can look at some of the other causes afterwards The provider is 08456013701. I find it more reliable to access it using QTPI . SOQL terminal lets me enter the number but when I press enter nothing happens. Arnie - Original Message - From: AGClarke To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 5:37 PM Subject: [ql-users] soql Hi, On my laptop using qpc2v3, I cannot get it to connect to my modem as it cannot find ser3. On my aurora machine it connects to my modem and logs on but the input to my screen is not readable. I will await for replies with interest. needless to say I have tried everthing that I can to get things working but I need Help! Arnie
Re: [ql-users] SUCS meeting report...
Thanks to Urs for his report on the SUCS meeting. I too enjoyed seeing all those familiar faces again, but Urs forgot to mention that we were honoured by the visit of a representative of a new generation of QLers, Maximilian (2 1/2 years), Urs's son. Although he seemed to be more interested in the doormice than the computer mice at the moment his adept interventions on Urs's keyboard demonstrated that QLing has a bright future to look forward to. p.s. in case anyone was wondering doormice are colourful, jellylike plastic doorstops in the shape of mice . Jon.
