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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Malcolm Cadman wrote: 'ql_now' would be an apt domain name - that is what is happening with the QL now. 404 Not Found. The page you are looking for could not be displayed ;) So, what does that say? ;) It is available then :-) -- Malcolm Cadman
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tarquin Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Could Jonathan Dent TCP/IP stack's DNS Resolver be configured to point at the Open Root Server Confederation DNS servers rather than the ICANN legacy servers. This would mean instead of seeing just the usual names you could see other TLDs (Top Level Domains) like http://www.bbc.news .Would people be interested in a free .ql domain or would they prefer ql.sinclair. For more info see http://www.open-rsc.org , http://www.youcann.org or my site running on this computer at http://speccyverse.homedns.org/bt/orsc.htm .I hope to be able to get an ARM Linux box to run a DNS server for this and other domains and point to all alternative international generic TLDs. 'ql_now' would be an apt domain name - that is what is happening with the QL now. Sinclairs' interest is no longer there ... -- Malcolm Cadman
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Malcolm Cadman wrote: 'ql_now' would be an apt domain name - that is what is happening with the QL now. 404 Not Found. The page you are looking for could not be displayed ;) So, what does that say? ;) Dave
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- Original Message - From: P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: jeudi 11 décembre 2003 00:36 Subject: Re: [ql-users] isp My personal experience with Tiscali.co.uk is that you get swamped with spam, the negotiation time with the host computer (both logging in and logging out) takes longer than with freeserve (thus clocking up extra revenue for Tiscali at your expense), that sometimes you are not allowed to log on to your email account via another ISP (thus forcing you to use Tiscali to get your Tiscali mail), and finally, that they dont permit your sending mail on another ISP account than your Tiscali account while connected via them. You're lucky. I was doing quite well with World Online until it was taken over by Tiscali. When they offered me the choice of staying with the old contract or taking advantage of a new contract 3 times more expensive, I said no-thanks I'll stay with the old one. 3 months later they changed the contract anyway, but as it is not me that does the accounts, I did not notice that my account was being debited at 50 Euros a month! When I caught on, Tiscali refused to change back to the old contract retrospectively. I cancelled the contract by e-mail near the end of the month, receiving a reply a few days later (after the end of the month) that I had to confirm by registered mail before the end of the month to avoid have two more months (a benefit in the new contract that I had not agreed) debited from my account. Another month debited. I wrote to the address given (World Online), and received a reply a month later that for cancellation I had to write to Tiscali at a different address. Another month debited. A few weeks later, I received an offer from Tiscali to change to a contract that was cheaper than the original World Online. There is no doubt at all that Tiscali in France are a real bunch of crooks. Unfortunately, with my bank's advanced information technology, it would have cost me more to stop the debit that it cost to pay Tiscali for nothing (I had moved to FreeSurf / Free Telecom). OK so in my case, this has cost Tiscali more than it cost me, but how many ex World Online customers have still not noticed that they are being ripped off? Tony Tebby
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Totalise are only free until 31 december this year. After that they want money. I am going to let my totalise email address die. Try Breathenet. All you need is the SMTP and VPOP3 server names, the telephone number, a user name and password and you can set the whole thing up easily including the Dial Up Networking (DUN) Peter Fox In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roy wood) wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I have been asked to set up a computer for someone for Christmas. They gave me a Readers Digest ISP installation CD (rdplus.net) but can't be used because (a) it's out of date, with old numbers etc and (b) it's only for members. I could go into the website and set it all up from there but it says it'll alter the settings on my computer automatically, so no go. Anyone know of a subscription-free ISP using a local rate UK dialup I can just sign up to from my computer then just simply set up the other PC to connect to. Someone (Tarquin?) did offer me such details some time ago but I seem to have lost them. It is fairly easy to set up an account using your own PC but not installing the account on your own machine. Many ISPs have the facility for downloading an .inf file which will sent the other machine up when exec'd. Try uku or Totalise for this. Totalise are free if you use their dial up and uku are just free. It is not really hard to hand set up a machine and I would never use an installation CD - you don't know what else it installs. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex. Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 at 10:36:00, Peter Fox wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Totalise are only free until 31 december this year. After that they want money. I am going to let my totalise email address die. Try Breathenet. With all this moving of accounts, I am amazed that more don't buy a domain (£1.99 a year from oneandone.co.uk - beware the £1.99 a MONTH offer). It would help my QL mailing list a lot. A lot of you seem to move with the weather, and don't tell me. It would also help you (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
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Broadly, this is what I have done. Signing up online from another computer or phone line (a) alters your computer's settings or (b) ends up with you only able to dial up from the phone number you signed up from. As it's being done from here for someone else, I'm knackered all ways. In the end I've installed MSNFreeweb which seems to be some form of partnetrship with BT. No email, just web access, incredibly easy to install (download one file, save to floppy disk, run this on the PC concerned which had no existing dialup and it worked first time, so well in fact I honestly thought something must have gone wrong! When the lad concerned is old enough to use email, he can sign up to a hotmail or similar to get him going, then I'll get a freeserve, tiscali or similar to take him to the next step. The PC was pretty hopeless, a 100Mhz processor, 16mb ram, a CD-ROM drive which will only read CD-ROMs (Yet to find a recorded CD-R which it will read!), 256 colours max. and so on. Guess it will get used for very basic applications and that's it! -- Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: Martin Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] isp You don't need a CD Just go to the site of the ISP of your choice and set up the account It will offer you a file. Don't run it but save it. This will be a file with a .ins ending and will contain all the configuration info Once it is on your computer don't run it but read it in a text editor You can then configure the bits that you want (like the e-mail) but avoid having it customising your browser with ads and hi-jacking your home page
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TonyTebby wrote: ... There is no doubt at all that Tiscali in France are a real bunch of crooks. Is it just Tiscali? My freeserve email domain is swamped with spam (97%+ for one user name, so easy to filter). I noticed one hosting ISP kept appearing, so I stat'ed it for Nov and Dec (so far): Nov: 1047 / 2017 = 51.9% Dec: 267 / 694 = 38.4% The hosting ISP: wanadoo.fr The irony: freeserve is now owned by wanadoo!
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Dilwyn Jones wrote: [snip] Anyone know of a subscription-free ISP using a local rate UK dialup I can just sign up to from my computer then just simply set up the other PC to connect to. Someone (Tarquin?) did offer me such details some time ago but I seem to have lost them. Sorry to be late in replying (just ordered a foldover for my MinisQ60), the ISP is called Sonow sign up online at http://signup.sonow4u.co.uk .My mother has been using them for years and never had a single SPAM. Telephone number = 0845 6652218 DNS servers = 212.85.249.130 212.1.130.32 but use ORSC instead (see below) SMTP mail server = mail.sonow4u.co.uk POP3 mail server = mail.sonow.com Could Jonathan Dent TCP/IP stack's DNS Resolver be configured to point at the Open Root Server Confederation DNS servers rather than the ICANN legacy servers. This would mean instead of seeing just the usual names you could see other TLDs (Top Level Domains) like http://www.bbc.news .Would people be interested in a free .ql domain or would they prefer ql.sinclair. For more info see http://www.open-rsc.org , http://www.youcann.org or my site running on this computer at http://speccyverse.homedns.org/bt/orsc.htm .I hope to be able to get an ARM Linux box to run a DNS server for this and other domains and point to all alternative international generic TLDs. Another free ISP I have used is BT, I can give the details if you want. I use NTL broadband at the moment and try to use their NTLWorlds servers mail,news,DNS,web as little as possible because they are unreliable. I use Sonow for backup and web hosting, which has unlimited file space within reason. -- Tarquin Mills RUNG (RISC OS Users, Norfolk Group) http://speccyverse.homedns.org/rung/ (running on RISC OS) New domain name coming soon http://***.***.**.**/
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Tony Firshman writes: With all this moving of accounts, I am amazed that more don't buy a domain (£1.99 a year from oneandone.co.uk - beware the £1.99 a MONTH offer). Can you use a domain via a dial-up connection? Having your own domain doesnt solve the dail-up problem. You still need an ISP, yes? Can anyone recommend a reliable Pay-As-You-Go ISP? Per
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TonyTebby writes: You're lucky. When Tiscali took over my beautiful knoware.nl ISP I had similar experiences to the ones you describe but I put it down to them being mean rather than crooked. What a wunch of bankers! I think its time to get outta here! Per
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Probably a lot handier Dilwyn if you take a trip into Bangor and pick up a freebie CD from one of the phone shops (thats where you get 'em over here, anyway - they give them away for nowt) or get the latest copy of just about any computer magazine and get a CD with isp software on it from that. You probably even have one lying about somewhere. I know computer active usually has a CD stuck into it somewhere for BT or Tiscali or ISP's like that. cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 01-6798230 Fax: 01-6706813. BOI Group Data Classification - thegilpins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] nworld.com cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: [ql-users] isp [EMAIL PROTECTED] .uk 10/12/2003 13:44 Please respond to ql-users Dilwyn, I have been with ic24.net for some years and I think theirs is the service you describe - free subscription and a lo-call number to log on to. You could try them on WWW.IC24.NET John Gilpin. - Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: QL Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 12:33 PM Subject: [ql-users] isp I have been asked to set up a computer for someone for Christmas. They gave me a Readers Digest ISP installation CD (rdplus.net) but can't be used because (a) it's out of date, with old numbers etc and (b) it's only for members. I could go into the website and set it all up from there but it says it'll alter the settings on my computer automatically, so no go. Anyone know of a subscription-free ISP using a local rate UK dialup I can just sign up to from my computer then just simply set up the other PC to connect to. Someone (Tarquin?) did offer me such details some time ago but I seem to have lost them. -- Dilwyn Jones This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses.
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Dilwyn bach, Why not the ubiquitous TISCALI ? I've set up many for different users. Get =version 10. It has s/w to set up on computer 'A' and (later) run the same CD and choose the option to transfer said same account to computer 'B' or C or D or DD! form that machine. I'd be mzzzed if you can't pick one up (as Celtically advised elsewhere on this esteemed list) - but, if push does come to shove, you have my e-mail adddress and, here in this part of Wales, we too, do have a Post Office ;) Best wishes to all, John also in Wales
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Dilwyn Jones wrote: I have been asked to set up a computer for someone for Christmas. They gave me a Readers Digest ISP installation CD (rdplus.net) but can't be used because (a) it's out of date, with old numbers etc and (b) it's only for members. I could go into the website and set it all up from there but it says it'll alter the settings on my computer automatically, so no go Anyone know of a subscription-free ISP using a local rate UK dialup I can just sign up to from my computer then just simply set up the other PC to connect to. Someone (Tarquin?) did offer me such details some time ago but I seem to have lost them. I originally went with freeserve as I could extract the phone numbers/login for setting up account from CD as I do NOT use Windoze (when I can). On dialling in, it went through set up account and then offered either to adjust computer for me (only knows Win so it would really mess up/fail with Linux ^_^) or stuff amendment details into a file/print it for later updation, at my leisure. DOing this, you set up acct from your machine and then just set up phone number, acct, passwd, pop server, smtp server and Robert's your father's brother (as my nephew/nieces would say to each other). [I still use freeserve, but only for my inbound email addresses as they effectively give you an email domain - 97%+ of my spam gets sent to one user in particular at this email domain and so is easy to filter (on that criterion alone). I actually use another ISP for normal dial-in and sending email, and once a month dial-in and log-in into the freeserve acct to stop it being deactivated - it uses lo-call (local non-geographic) to dial-in and they get part of the phone call cost so it's a pay-as-you-go.]
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John Hitchcock writes: Why not the ubiquitous TISCALI ? I've set up many for different users. My personal experience with Tiscali.co.uk is that you get swamped with spam, the negotiation time with the host computer (both logging in and logging out) takes longer than with freeserve (thus clocking up extra revenue for Tiscali at your expense), that sometimes you are not allowed to log on to your email account via another ISP (thus forcing you to use Tiscali to get your Tiscali mail), and finally, that they dont permit your sending mail on another ISP account than your Tiscali account while connected via them. Freeserve offers an altogether cheaper and more reliable service. I was able to set up a freeserve account a year or two ago without using their CD which, however, is widely available from Dixons, PC World, etc, and on computer magazine cover disks. Id be happy to be recommended another ISP myself. Preferably something with a memorable name so its easy to give to people verbally. For example pj at witte dot fsbusiness dot co dot uk doesnt exactly roll off the tounge, while pjwitte at tiscali dot co dot uk is very convenient; the only positive point about tiscali ISP. Per
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I have both freeserve and ntl which are both subscription-free and use local-ish rates (0845). They are only for emergencies for when my broadband connection is down. As far as I'm aware there aren't any that use proper local area codes any more, because so many people now get free local calls by paying a couple of pounds extra to their telephone provider. There just wouldn't be any revenue for the ISP. Jeremy - Original Message - From: John Hitchcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: QL-users e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] isp Dilwyn bach, Why not the ubiquitous TISCALI ? I've set up many for different users. Get =version 10. It has s/w to set up on computer 'A' and (later) run the same CD and choose the option to transfer said same account to computer 'B' or C or D or DD! form that machine. I'd be mzzzed if you can't pick one up (as Celtically advised elsewhere on this esteemed list) - but, if push does come to shove, you have my e-mail adddress and, here in this part of Wales, we too, do have a Post Office ;) Best wishes to all, John also in Wales
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I have been asked to set up a computer for someone for Christmas. They gave me a Readers Digest ISP installation CD (rdplus.net) but can't be used because (a) it's out of date, with old numbers etc and (b) it's only for members. I could go into the website and set it all up from there but it says it'll alter the settings on my computer automatically, so no go. Anyone know of a subscription-free ISP using a local rate UK dialup I can just sign up to from my computer then just simply set up the other PC to connect to. Someone (Tarquin?) did offer me such details some time ago but I seem to have lost them. It is fairly easy to set up an account using your own PC but not installing the account on your own machine. Many ISPs have the facility for downloading an .inf file which will sent the other machine up when exec'd. Try uku or Totalise for this. Totalise are free if you use their dial up and uku are just free. It is not really hard to hand set up a machine and I would never use an installation CD - you don't know what else it installs. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex. Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk
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P Witte wrote: John Hitchcock writes: Why not the ubiquitous TISCALI ? I've set up many for different users. My personal experience with Tiscali.co.uk is that you get swamped with spam, the negotiation time with the host computer (both logging in and logging out) takes longer than with freeserve (thus clocking up extra revenue for Tiscali at your expense), that sometimes you are not allowed to log on to your email account via another ISP (thus forcing you to use Tiscali to get your Tiscali mail), and finally, that they dont permit your sending mail on another ISP account than your Tiscali account while connected via them. Freeserve offers an altogether cheaper and more reliable service. I was able to set up a freeserve account a year or two ago without using their CD which, however, is widely available from Dixons, PC World, etc, and on computer magazine cover disks. For what you mention, if you are running a Windoze variant, make sure that you unchek the Log in to network option. That will speed your connecting time dramatically in most cases. For some reason most free ISPs in the UK (and in Greece where I have the experience from) do not allow connections like this and until they negotiate out of it it will keep you in limbo
