Re: [ql-users] Irish Show pictuures
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 23:52:27 +0100, Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Franois Van Emelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Tony Firshman wrote: How d*d disappointing. We got a page up on http://www.firshman.co.uk/ on last Saturday during the show at Roundwood with mug shots of everyone there. Darren sent an email to this list telling everyone to look, but no sign of it. snip I didn't see his email on this list. I saw the pictures half an hour ago or so. Of course I would have preferred a picture of someone working on/with a QL program instead of a Windows application :-( Franois Van Emelen Well if we are successful with the whole internet suite Messenger will never be the same :-) Out of need Tony had to use (I think it was Darren's) computer to try and help me out... It's not everyday that you get 80% of the QL's hardware gurus in one place (Keith Mitchell, Stuart Honeyball and Tony Firshman...) probably a little lightheaded due to Guinness (two Ns, two Ss) granted but nonetheless invaluable... You cannot see it but I was showing Keith Mitchell how to change the colours on the new version of QPAC 2 in one of the pictures. John Hall was also working though some stuff under QPC2 and Tony was communicating with Phoebus a bout how to fix his errant Qubide - albeit via Windoze but all QL related. Don't jump to convolutions. QubIDE btw semi fixed after I tore another one apart and grabbed it's DIN64 connectors and grafted them on the Aurora and SuperGold Card. (A horrible task I assure you, especially with a Radio Shack brand soldering iron/desoldering pump). Oh where is my Antex (Made in Great Britain)??? Amazingly all works (at least less crap on screen than before). Oh what we do to test Q-Word ;-) (Which btw runs faster on the SGC/Aurora under SMSQ/E v.3.01 than the equivalent in QPC AND Q40!!! - Rich Mellor with valuable assistance from Marcel does it again!) Speaking of SGC, anyone knows what the heck is that resistor that's soldered on the din64 connector supposed to do? (I put it right back in but I am wondering... I don't remember it being there before Keith got ahold of my SGC) BTW: Roy before I am able to extract what you need out of the SGC you may want to grab Marcel's version out of the latest WMDEMO.WIN file (he has his own version albeit without support for icons) Phoebus -- Visit the QL-FAQ at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/faq/ (Still uploading stuff!) Visit the uQLX-win32 homepage at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlx.html Visit the uQLX-mac home page at:http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlxmac.html
Re: [ql-users] Irish Show pictuures
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 at 01:19:13, =?utf-8?B?IlBob2VidXMgUi4gRG9rb3MgKM6mzr/Or86yzr/PgiDOoS4gzp3PhM+Mzro=?= =?utf-8?B?zr/Pgiki?= wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Don't you think even a small mention of your name in ASCII would be useful, Phoebus (8-)# UTF-8 Greek looks more Greek than Greek (to mash up a metaphor). Well if we are successful with the whole internet suite Messenger will never be the same :-) Out of need Tony had to use (I think it was Darren's) computer to try and help me out... It was his web centre so there were six at least. I was using richadr 's machine - or some equally odd spelling of 'Richard'. He is an interesting guy' said Darren (8-)# I wonder, Darren, whether you got his configuration back. I _had_ to change his options. I kept getting dozens of open 'My Computer' windows - he opened 'in a new window' - how can one survive with that? I was having a nice time. Not only (via MSN) was getting some worldnews problem sorted out in Kuala Lumpur, but was 'chatting' to Ben at home, and failing to sort out ?B?IlBob2VidXMgUi4gRG9rb3MgKM6mzr/Or86yzr/PgiDOoS4gzp3PhM+Mzro (PD), but also sorting out the http://stpetersberkhamsted.org.uk web site and getting these show pictures onto my QL web site. . all at the same time, phew. BTW the Irish show page now has thumbnails linked to the larger picture. I was using puTTY to get into my Linux system. It's not everyday that you get 80% of the QL's hardware gurus in one place (Keith Mitchell, Stuart Honeyball and Tony Firshman...) Who is the other three quarter of a person? Nasta is two for starters (8-)# probably a little lightheaded due to Guinness (two Ns, two Ss) granted but nonetheless invaluable... Stuart and I had none that day (so far) but about 9 the previous day (8-)# Still, cycling up (from sea level) to the highest village in Ireland got rid of most of the Guinness up to then. I had to take an emergency orange - my thigh muscles gave up with cramp!). QubIDE btw semi fixed after I tore another one apart and grabbed it's DIN64 connectors and grafted them on the Aurora and SuperGold Card. (A horrible task I assure you, especially with a Radio Shack brand soldering iron/desoldering pump). Oh where is my Antex (Made in Great Britain)??? Brilliant - well done. You did say on the day that the connector was bad. I have always used Antex. When I used the unregulated mains voltage ones, I used to change elements very regularly. Now I use 24 volt ones and temperature regulated (six years now) I have not had to change one element - well worth the extra cost. Have you tried a heat gun? I have one made specially for the job with a stand and 1 and 2kw output. I guess it can also be used as a paint stripper. You have to be very careful to avoid overheating - the pcb can pop breaking vias. However with practise, one can remove a whole component in one go. With 40 pin sockets I can remove and replace with a new one in one go (ie 68008 socket - turned pin) without any soldering needed. Putting sockets in place of ram is a doddle - a very common QL repair (to replace faulty ram) - takes maybe 25 seconds, and no soldering. The final result almost looks flow-soldered. This method is no good for the edge connector, but allows removal (undamaged) of the connector in less than a minute often. Solder sucking is then easy (braid is better - Chem Lite is the best braid) - especially while the board is hot. I often re-heat the empty hole. Speaking of SGC, anyone knows what the heck is that resistor that's soldered on the din64 connector supposed to do? (I put it right back in but I am wondering... I don't remember it being there before Keith got ahold of my SGC) Bet you it is tying a line to gnd or 5v. (from where to where and value) -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Irish Show pictuures
tony Firshman wrote:- Well if we are successful with the whole internet suite Messenger will never be the same :-) Out of need Tony had to use (I think it was Darren's) computer to try and help me out... It was his web centre so there were six at least. I was using richadr 's machine - or some equally odd spelling of 'Richard'. He is an interesting guy' said Darren (8-)# I wonder, Darren, whether you got his configuration back. I _had_ to SNIP Yes, I got his configuration back. I know its a horrible configuration, I agree. But its a on a PC in a learning centre - and we found it easier for complete beginners to see and understand what the computer is doing when we set it to open a new window each time. compete novices understand how directory systems and trees work better this way, It helps in the learning process initially, later we show them how to define options like this to their own tastes. As for the weird spelling of richard on his login, it is completely deliberate - he has been using this for 20-odd years he says, and has some low-level passwords done like that too, various deliberate misspellings of his name. - he opened 'in a new window' - how can one survive with that? see above. much easier to explain to a complete non-computer user what is going on when they can see the trail left behind them. a bit like opening folders within folders in a filing cabinet. probably a little lightheaded due to Guinness (two Ns, two Ss) granted but nonetheless invaluable... Stuart and I had none that day (so far) but about 9 the previous day (8-)# And a few that night, plus Roy and I did quite well on sunday evening/night. Cheers, Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses.
Re: [ql-users] Irish Show pictuures
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 at 11:58:16, =?iso-8859-7?B?IlBob2VidXMgUi4gRG9rb3MgKNbv3+Lv8iDRLiDN9Pzq7/IpIg==?= wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Actually no better than being there often... I'd rather be in Athens, Greece Is there another Athens then? - I guess USA has dozens. right now than in humid Indiana, PA :-D .. for me, I would rather be at home drinking coffee that in the noisy cold server room in London's docklands (8-)# I would add Robin Barker and Ron Dunnet to that. I suppose (very reluctantly) Falkenburg. I won't tell you my stories about his keyboard interface publicly. Yes but Robin Barker and Ron Dunnet do not trade anymore (or do they?) ... not does Sturat. As for Falkenburg I have never seen on of his products although heard some horror stories about them ;-) Nonetheless from what I remember despite the problems he carried a significant weight of QL hardware development. He did - but he did not spend enough money on pcbs or manufacture. Snip re gene therapy-or-other-appearance-altering-procedures Indeed (8-)# So what's the scoop on that? We are both losing our hair and getting a middle-aged spread. snip re endurance Then there must have been iron spikes in my trousers. It is Stuart who is the fit one. I must confess on one very steep hill, I borrowed Stuart's bike with gearing that can go up vertical surfaces. He took my bike and both rucksacks! Hmm well word on the street is that you can carry your cycling weight more than adequately :-D .. not up some Irish hills, and I am getting on for 10 years older than Stuart. snip re DIN-64 connectors' tolerance to heating I will be noting all this for reference of course. Indeed I have picked up more info regarding soldering/desoldering and rework from this list, you and Zeljko than anybody else. You and Nasta are the reason that my Aurora has now proper IDC connectors everywhere Arghh yes. What a stupid decision it was not to put them on. Probably cost although I don't see why. Nasta has always complained about this. Properly keyed connectors can save you a lot of trouble (not to mention that they look neat ;-) No - see later. I went to enormous troubles to get the proper sockets made - had to have them specially made for me, only to find no Aurora's (bar yours) have the proper sockets. I asked Ron how much he paid for his DIL plugs, and then found the 'proper' ones cheaper! My point exactly... Proper ones if bought in sufficient quantities are a lot cheaper. I have also found slip on shrouds for the semi-IDC used on the aurora that can add the flair ;-) (plus extra power pins). My desoldering pump although powerful is really for the dogs and without proper info I would have never been able to pull it off ;-) Pull what off the dogs? Haha pull-it-off as in managing to properly desolder-solder the DIN 64 connectors (Too impatient to wait for new ones although I probably should... they are only a dollar or so a piece (per piece) I know, I know - it was only a joke (feeble I know) I pick this up off Roy. I am sure you have been on the receiving end of Roy's word play. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Irish Show pictuures
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 18:37:50 +0100, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 at 11:58:16, =?iso-8859-7?B?IlBob2VidXMgUi4gRG9rb3MgKNbv3+Lv8iDRLiDN9Pzq7/IpIg==?= wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Actually no better than being there often... I'd rather be in Athens, Greece Is there another Athens then? - I guess USA has dozens. Three that I know of, but living here I have picked up a couple traits like putting the general area/country after the town/city name... Americans in general are not very strong in Geography :-) Luckily all US QLers are educated people... has to do something with the black slab (A 2001-A Space Odyssey reference maybe? :-D) snip .. for me, I would rather be at home drinking coffee that in the noisy cold server room in London's docklands (8-)# Understandable! snip ... nor does Sturat. Hmmm but isn't he in the electronics business still? Which is what he was anyway right? (Or am I horribly misinformed once more... not that this would be a surprise of course ;-) He did - but he did not spend enough money on pcbs or manufacture. Sounds like it (the bent PCBs and other stories)... I wonder what has happened to him We are both losing our hair and getting a middle-aged spread. Pah! You are obviously aiming for the compliment so here it is. You are actually look much fitter now than previously published photos of you. (And that's no joke) :-) So enough with the complaining ;-) .. not up some Irish hills, and I am getting on for 10 years older than Stuart. And Perl hasn't been kind to you I guess ;-) (That WAS a joke) Snip Probably cost although I don't see why. Nasta has always complained about this. Properly keyed connectors can save you a lot of trouble (not to mention that they look neat ;-) No - see later. I saw nothing later? snip I know, I know - it was only a joke (feeble I know) I pick this up off Roy. I am sure you have been on the receiving end of Roy's word play. Oh yes... and after the first shock wore off I kinda liked it (Psych! I am a masochist I know) (Roy's very capable of keeping a straight face so if he REALLY wants to you will never know it's actually a joke) -- Visit the QL-FAQ at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/faq/ (Still uploading stuff!) Visit the uQLX-win32 homepage at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlx.html Visit the uQLX-mac home page at:http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlxmac.html
Re: [ql-users] Irish Show pictuures
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 at 14:02:13, =?iso-8859-7?B?IlBob2VidXMgUi4gRG9rb3MgKNbv3+Lv8iDRLiDN9Pzq7/IpIg==?= wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ... nor does Sturat. Hmmm but isn't he in the electronics business still? Which is what he was anyway right? (Or am I horribly misinformed once more... not that this would be a surprise of course ;-) He is. We are both losing our hair and getting a middle-aged spread. Pah! You are obviously aiming for the compliment so here it is. You are actually look much fitter now than previously published photos of you. (And that's no joke) :-) So enough with the complaining ;-) I guess I have a smaller spread than you (8-)# Probably cost although I don't see why. Nasta has always complained about this. Properly keyed connectors can save you a lot of trouble (not to mention that they look neat ;-) No - see later. I saw nothing later? You have snipped it. I said in the very original that I found a cheaper source for the 'proper' connectors than Ron paid for the simple DIL connector strip. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Irish Show pictuures
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], =?utf-8?B?IlBob2VidXMgUi4gRG9rb3MgKM6mzr/Or86yzr/PgiDOoS4gzp3PhM+Mzro=?= =?utf-8?B?zr/Pgiki?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes BTW: Roy before I am able to extract what you need out of the SGC you may want to grab Marcel's version out of the latest WMDEMO.WIN file (he has his own version albeit without support for icons) I couldn't find that on Marcel's site. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex. Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk
Re: [ql-users] Irish Show pictuures
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 23:04:02 +0100, Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], =?utf- 8?B?IlBob2VidXMgUi4gRG9rb3MgKM6mzr/Or86yzr/PgiDOoS4gzp3PhM+Mzro=?= =?utf- 8?B?zr/Pgiki?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes BTW: Roy before I am able to extract what you need out of the SGC you may want to grab Marcel's version out of the latest WMDEMO.WIN file (he has his own version albeit without support for icons) I couldn't find that on Marcel's site. Hold on I am sending it over -- Visit the QL-FAQ at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/faq/ (Still uploading stuff!) Visit the uQLX-win32 homepage at: http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlx.html Visit the uQLX-mac home page at:http://www.dokos-gr.net/ql/uqlxmac.html
Re: [ql-users] Irish Show pictuures
Tony Firshman wrote: How d*d disappointing. We got a page up on http://www.firshman.co.uk/ on last Saturday during the show at Roundwood with mug shots of everyone there. Darren sent an email to this list telling everyone to look, but no sign of it. snip I didn't see his email on this list. I saw the pictures half an hour ago or so. Of course I would have preferred a picture of someone working on/with a QL program instead of a Windows application :-( François Van Emelen
Re: [ql-users] Irish Show pictuures
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 at 08:50:31, wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In a message dated 01/09/2003 12:34:55 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How d*d disappointing. We got a page up on http://www.firshman.co.uk/ on last Saturday during the show at Roundwood with mug shots of everyone there. Darren sent an email to this list telling everyone to look, but no sign of it. There certainly is something worng with the transmission path somewhere. I do hope this one gets through OK. ... still we had fun with technology getting the photos there - pity no-one saw them (8-(# I saw them !! Phoebus directed me to the location - ql-users seems to be working again at the moment - maybe you can post the link again !! URL is above - on my web site. It is one of the first links. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Irish Show pictuures
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 at 15:58:07, François Van Emelen wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tony Firshman wrote: How d*d disappointing. We got a page up on http://www.firshman.co.uk/ on last Saturday during the show at Roundwood with mug shots of everyone there. Darren sent an email to this list telling everyone to look, but no sign of it. snip I didn't see his email on this list. I saw the pictures half an hour ago or so. Of course I would have preferred a picture of someone working on/with a QL program instead of a Windows application :-( Marcel will be annoyed with you - it was QPC mainly (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Irish Show pictuures
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], François Van Emelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Tony Firshman wrote: How d*d disappointing. We got a page up on http://www.firshman.co.uk/ on last Saturday during the show at Roundwood with mug shots of everyone there. Darren sent an email to this list telling everyone to look, but no sign of it. snip I didn't see his email on this list. I saw the pictures half an hour ago or so. Of course I would have preferred a picture of someone working on/with a QL program instead of a Windows application :-( François Van Emelen You cannot see it but I was showing Keith Mitchell how to change the colours on the new version of QPAC 2 in one of the pictures. John Hall was also working though some stuff under QPC2 and Tony was communicating with Phoebus a bout how to fix his errant Qubide - albeit via Windoze but all QL related. Don't jump to convolutions. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex. Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk
Re: [ql-users] Irish Show pictuures
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], François Van Emelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Tony Firshman wrote: How d*d disappointing. We got a page up on http://www.firshman.co.uk/ on last Saturday during the show at Roundwood with mug shots of everyone there. Darren sent an email to this list telling everyone to look, but no sign of it. snip I didn't see his email on this list. I saw the pictures half an hour ago or so. Of course I would have preferred a picture of someone working on/with a QL program instead of a Windows application :-( François Van Emelen You cannot see it but I was showing keith Mitchell how to change te colours on the new WMAN in one of the pictures. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex. Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk
