Re: [ql-users] SOQL

2003-11-18 Thread Dent

I finished coding CHAP last Weekend and hope to test it
this coming Weekend. It will probably need some fiddling to
get it working properly.

I hope that will crack the ISP access problems that some 
people have been experiencing.

I have the sources of an FTP client which I would like to
try to port to the soQL library but I haven't had time to
look at it yet.

Jon.

- Original Message - 
From: Claude Mourier 00 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 5:30 PM
Subject: [ql-users] SOQL


 
 As there is no news about that topic since some time :
 what is the curent status of SOQL ?
 is there any FTP client in the pipeline ?
 is there any FTP server in the pipeline ?
 
 Claude




Re: [ql-users] soQL Emailer almost ready

2003-07-17 Thread Jonathan Dent

Sounds great I look forward to trying it.
I've been giving some thougt to a WMAN
front end. I've been strugling with CPTR though. It won't work on my uQLx
setup and although I've followed J. M.Sadlers excelent article in QL Today
Vol.7 Iss.6 I'm not sure how to continue.

But perhapps I should be looking into adding an authentication to PPP first?

I'd also like to do somthing about releasing the sources. I think CVS is a
good idea to help coordinate development but I not sure about
SourceForge. Any Ideas?

By the way Phoebus did you manage to evaluate tht serial to ethernet
converter you talked about some time ago on the list?

Happy QLing
Jon.


- Original Message -
From: Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: QL Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; QL Developers Mailing
List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 8:45 PM
Subject: [ql-users] soQL Emailer almost ready



 Hi all,
 this quick note to tell you that the soQL-based emailer that I am writing
 is almost on the testing phase. Although it seems like a long time has
 passed since I announced the project, problems with C68, my month long
 holidays and school, made me devote very little time on it. However come
 summer session end in College I will be able to accelerate and hopefully
by
 mid to end of August I will have it available for a beta test.

 Please note that this is a text only application (Which means that whoever
 wants to write a WMAN front end to it is more than welcome ;-)

 Phoebus

 --
 Phoebus Dokos - Undergrad in MIS
 Eberly College of Business - Indiana U. of PA







Re: [ql-users] soQL Emailer almost ready

2003-07-17 Thread Phoebus Dokos
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 20:25:29 +0200, Jonathan Dent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sounds great I look forward to trying it.
I've been giving some thougt to a WMAN
front end. I've been strugling with CPTR though. It won't work on my uQLx
setup and although I've followed J. M.Sadlers excelent article in QL 
Today
Vol.7 Iss.6 I'm not sure how to continue.

But perhapps I should be looking into adding an authentication to PPP 
first?

I'd also like to do somthing about releasing the sources. I think CVS is 
a
good idea to help coordinate development but I not sure about
SourceForge. Any Ideas?

By the way Phoebus did you manage to evaluate tht serial to ethernet
converter you talked about some time ago on the list?
Happy QLing
Jon.
I think Sourceforge is THE way to go as it may attract other prior QL users 
that have no clue about this list or the current state of affairs in the QL 
world.

As for the Serial-To-Ethernet, as I said it worked fine. However that was 
an expensive piece of h/w and I was now looking at a cheap design based on 
the CS Ethernet chip (about $40). That could also benefit of the PPP for 
the PPPoE portion of DSL connections.

I am also looking into Tarquin's HB C port although because of Curses it 
restricts me a lot in things I want to do. The parser also needs a little 
help there as it is rather simple still... however that too is promising. I 
still haven't gotten around to recompile Lynx to see how that fares as a 
comparison.

Also yes PPP authentication needs to be added.

The front end isn't that important. The solution I thought of was to modify 
the existing SMTP and POP mailers package them together and provide a TPTR 
based SBasic front end. That way processes can run separately anyway and 
you can also make something nice graphically very quickly. A big advantage 
that TPTR has (as we discovered with QWord) is that it allows you to do 
mouse based GUIs without using the whole of the PE per se. Ie you set up 
the window but all of the terrible concepts of the PE ie the Menu/Window 
concept that is good for context sensitive actions but looks gross as a 
menu system don't have to be used. Instead you can make whatever you like 
looking the way you want it... ie pretty ;-)

Phoebus
--
Phoebus Dokos - Undergrad in MIS
Eberly College of Business - Indiana U. of PA



Re: [ql-users] SOQL PPP tests

2003-03-16 Thread Jonathan Dent

Hello Claude
Here is a short guide to what has to be done to set-up soql PPP.

Unzip the zipfile:
-
The zip file is designed to be unzipped on flp1_ If you unzip it to another
location you will have to edit the files boot and bootPPP in the
APS_MAIL_ directory. Each file requires a single change to the Dev$
initialisation. 

You may want to change the port definition in bootPPP. See the readme_txt 
file for more information.

There are two files you HAVE to edit:

In DNSrecords_txt you need to add any names that have to be resolved into
their Internet addresses. The most important names are the names of your
pop3 and smtp servers. To convert them into the hexadecimal values
stored in DNSrecords you could use ping to resolve the
addresses into decimal dot form. See example below. The decimal dot form 
can be converted to the required hexadecimal form by converting each decimal
number to a two digit hexadecimal number and combining them to the 8 digit
form. This again can be seen in the example below. 

The program pop3 requires the name MAIL to resolvable into your pop3 mail 
servers address. This requires the same number to be entered for MAIL as 
was entered for your pop3 server.

The file mail_dat is used by soqlMailer to define various parameters:

name = Put the name to appear in your email here
host = Put the bit of your email address which comes after @ here
user = Put the bit of your email address which comes before @ here
smtp = Put the address of your smtp server here e.g. smtp.freesurf.ch
tz = Put your time zone here e.g. +0100

You may also like to define sigf = with the name of a file to be used as your
signature file. This will be appended to all mails sent.

Now please read the readme_txt to see how to use the package

__

example host name resolution using ping:
---
C:\WINDOWSping smtp.freesurf.ch

PING smtp.freesurf.ch [194.230.0.8]: 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 128.63.240.80: icmp_seq=0 time=16 ms
64 bytes from 128.63.240.80: icmp_seq=1 time=9 ms
64 bytes from 128.63.240.80: icmp_seq=2 time=9 ms
64 bytes from 128.63.240.80: icmp_seq=3 time=8 ms
64 bytes from 128.63.240.80: icmp_seq=4 time=8 ms
^C

The address is converted as follows:
194 is C2 in hexadecimal
230 is E6 in hexadecimal
0 is 00 in hexadecimal
8 is 08 in hexadecimal

The DNSrecords_txt entry is then:
smtp.freesurf.ch 0xC2E60008


- Original Message -
From: Claude Mourier 00 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:35 AM
Subject: RE: [ql-users] SOQL PPP tests



 Could you explain a bit what configuration is needed for this test, as I
 don't know TCP-IP ?

 Claude

 -Message d'origine-
 De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Envoye : dimanche 9 mars 2003 13:32
 A : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Objet : [ql-users] SOQL PPP tests



 Hi I'm looking for volunteers to try out soql PPP in various
 countries. You need to find an Internet-by-call provider of
 which there seem to be plenty but I can only test swiss ones
 from here. Once connected you can use your usual email
 accounts if you can enter their URLs with hexadecimal
 equivelent in the TCP_DNSrecords_txt file.

 You need to have a bit of time to play about with it as there
 is no smooth human interface or automatic installation.

 but if you can read this it must be working:-)

 Jon.





Re: [ql-users] soql

2002-12-19 Thread Jonathan Dent



Hi Arnie
the s port lets you specify another port 
for soql see DOC_readme_txt for more details
Jon.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Arnold Clarke 
  To: Quanta 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 8:27 
  PM
  Subject: [ql-users] soql
  
  Hi all,
   How can I get QPC2 to 
  open to SER3 or, how can I change SOQL to use SER2?.
  
  Arnie


Re: [ql-users] soql

2002-12-18 Thread Phoebus Dokos

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  Hi all,
   How can I get QPC2 to open to SER3 or, how can I change SOQL to use
  SER2?.
   

  Arnie

Ser3 can be configured via the SER/PAR tab upon startup (just assign it to COM2 or 
COM1 whichever one you have free...) As for SoQL as after my crash I don't have it 
working any longer... Jonathan Dent is the man to ask :-)


Phoebus





Re: [ql-users] soql

2002-12-18 Thread Marcel Kilgus

Arnold Clarke wrote:
 How can I get QPC2 to open to SER3 or, how can I change SOQL to use SER2?.

I'm not sure what you want to do, but the SER-COM mapping is fully
configurable. SER/PAR button in config dialog.

Marcel




Re: [ql-users] SoQL and Dip -t -v

2002-12-08 Thread Tarquin Mills

Jonathan Dent wrote:
 Ah! THAT sm...
 
 Well actually sm basically sets up some parameters and executes 
 soqlmailer which is Jonathan Hudsons mailer compiled using
 the SOQL socket functions.
 
 One of the parameters passed to soqlmailer is -f mail_dat
 This file is missing I think from the .zip which I sent you
 :-(  it should  be in the DFT directory and have a content
 similar to:
 
 name = Jonathan Dent
 host = crosswinds.net
 smtp = mail.crosswinds.net
 user = jondent
 sigf = signature_txt
my file is now:
name = Tarquin Mills
host = accus.my.home
smtp = olegobble.my.home
user = tarquin
sigf signature_txt
 
 The last entry is not necessary but, if there, then the file 
 signature_txt will be appended to all mails. The host and smtp
 names will also have to be replaced with names appropriate 
 to your set-up and be resolved in the DNSrecords_txt file.
my DNSrecords_txt file contain:
olegobble.my.home 0xc0a801ca
olegobble 0xc0a801ca
accus.my.home 0xc0a801cb
accus 0xc0a801cb
[rest of file as default]

When running JH mailer messages go between the QL and exim SMTP
server running on my Linux box, e.g. HELO from the QL, is 
followed by the Linux box replying 250. The trouble now is that 
mailer times out at random before it sends the message, i.e.
the press any key to exit message appears before it should. The
only other clue I have is that some of the text from the SMTP
server is garbled.

I have tried pinging the ql and as JD said Soql mentions the
ping on the screen (the little window on the right), but does not
pong the message back. I would like to try the pong working 
version. 
-- 
   Tarquin Mills

ACCUS (Anglia Classic Computer Users Society)
http://www.planet14.sonow4u.co.uk/comp/accus/



Re: [ql-users] SoQL and Dip -t -v

2002-12-04 Thread Jonathan Dent

Ah! THAT sm...

Well actually sm basically sets up some parameters and executes soqlmailer
which is Jonathan Hudsons mailer compiled using the SOQL socket 
functions.

One of the parameters passed to soqlmailer is -f mail_dat
This file is missing I think from the .zip which I sent you :-(  it should
be in the DFT directory and have a content similar to:

name = Jonathan Dent
host = crosswinds.net
smtp = mail.crosswinds.net
user = jondent
sigf = signature_txt

The last entry is not necessary but, if there, then the file signature_txt
will be appended to all mails. The host and smtp names will also 
have to be replaced with names appropriate to your set-up and be
resolved in the DNSrecords_txt file.

Sorry this got left out but hope you can now get connected
all the best

Jon.



- Original Message -
From: Tarquin Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] SoQL and Dip -t -v



 Jonathan Dent wrote:
  Tarquin Mills wrote:
  
 I am trying to get SoQL working with Dip but when sm is run it says
   Unknown Host PONs and then client then logs off. How can I get
   SoQL and Linux to work, and are there any articles on SoQLs use?
   Thanks in advance.
  Afraid I don't know sm and can't find it in my books. What are you
  trying to do with it?
 SM is not a Linux command, SM is Simple Mail the mail sending procedure
 in the boot file of SoQL. I am trying to send an email to the Debian
 Potato Linux box to show SoQL in action.
 --
Tarquin Mills

 ACCUS (Anglia Classic Computer Users Society)
 http://www.planet14.sonow4u.co.uk/comp/accus/







Re: [ql-users] SoQL and Dip -t -v

2002-12-03 Thread Tarquin Mills

Jonathan Dent wrote:
 Tarquin Mills wrote:
  
I am trying to get SoQL working with Dip but when sm is run it says
  Unknown Host PONs and then client then logs off. How can I get
  SoQL and Linux to work, and are there any articles on SoQLs use? 
  Thanks in advance.
 Afraid I don't know sm and can't find it in my books. What are you
 trying to do with it? 
SM is not a Linux command, SM is Simple Mail the mail sending procedure
in the boot file of SoQL. I am trying to send an email to the Debian 
Potato Linux box to show SoQL in action.
-- 
   Tarquin Mills

ACCUS (Anglia Classic Computer Users Society)
http://www.planet14.sonow4u.co.uk/comp/accus/



Re: [ql-users] SoQL and Dip -t -v

2002-12-02 Thread Jonathan Dent

Hi Tarquin

Afraid I don't know sm and can't find it in my books. What are you
trying to do with it? 

I don't think there are any articles on using SoQL. I'm sorry the 
documentation is sparse. The library functions are based on the
standard library functions though. If you need specific help I'll
try to make time to answer your mails. You can mail me directly
on this from: address or DENTatFREESURFdotCH. 

Jon.

- Original Message - 
From: Tarquin Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 7:56 PM
Subject: [ql-users] SoQL and Dip -t -v


 
   I am trying to get SoQL working with Dip but when sm is run it says
 Unknown Host PONs and then client then logs off. How can I get
 SoQL and Linux to work, and are there any articles on SoQLs use? 
 Thanks in advance.
 -- 
Tarquin Mills
 
 ACCUS (Anglia Classic Computer Users Society)
 http://www.planet14.sonow4u.co.uk/comp/accus/
 




Re: [ql-users] SoQL and Dip -t -v

2002-12-02 Thread P Witte

Jonathan Dent writes:

 I don't think there are any articles on using SoQL. I'm sorry the
 documentation is sparse. The library functions are based on the
 standard library functions though. If you need specific help I'll
 try to make time to answer your mails. You can mail me directly
 on this from: address or DENTatFREESURFdotCH.

Since there is so little documentation couldnt you please mail via this, or
the ql-developers, list? One never knows when it may come in handy..

Per




Re: [ql-users] soql

2002-08-18 Thread Jonathan Dent


QPC:
The soql engine will use other ser ports if you pass it a port option
for example change the boot file line

270 para$ = q t d ram1_tryDNS r  Tcp$  ipReceiver

to

270 para$ = q t d ram1_tryDNS r  Tcp$  ipReceiver s ser1

to use ser1

Aurora
It could have many causes including an unsuitable provider. Let me
know the telephone number of your provider and I'll try to check
their suitability. We can look at some of the other causes afterwards

Jon.


- Original Message -
From: AGClarke
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 5:37 PM
Subject: [ql-users] soql


Hi,
On my laptop using qpc2v3, I cannot get it to connect to my modem as it
cannot find ser3.
On my aurora machine it connects to my modem and logs on but the input
to my screen is not readable.

I will await for replies with interest. needless to say I have tried
everthing that I can to get things working but I need Help!

Arnie




Re: [ql-users] soql

2002-08-18 Thread Tony Firshman


On  Sun, 18 Aug 2002 at 19:57:40, Jonathan Dent wrote:
(ref: 000701c246e0$ddf2f120$60e7e6c2@oemcomputer)


QPC:
The soql engine will use other ser ports if you pass it a port option
for example change the boot file line

270 para$ = q t d ram1_tryDNS r  Tcp$  ipReceiver

to

270 para$ = q t d ram1_tryDNS r  Tcp$  ipReceiver s ser1

to use ser1

Aurora
It could have many causes including an unsuitable provider. Let me
know the telephone number of your provider and I'll try to check
their suitability. We can look at some of the other causes afterwards

Whoops sorry - the body of the msg did not mention soql, so did not
realise this what was you were on about.
Ignore my previous email (8-)#
-- 
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  tonysurname.demon.co.uk  http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk
   Voice: +44(0)1442-828254   Fax: +44(0)1442-828255
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Re: [ql-users] soql

2002-08-18 Thread AGClarke






 QPC:
 The soql engine will use other ser ports if you pass it a port option
 for example change the boot file line

 270 para$ = q t d ram1_tryDNS r  Tcp$  ipReceiver

 to

 270 para$ = q t d ram1_tryDNS r  Tcp$  ipReceiver s ser1

 to use ser1
I get a report can.t find ser1(I have tried altering the configuration
panel - how should it be set up?)

 Aurora
 It could have many causes including an unsuitable provider. Let me
 know the telephone number of your provider and I'll try to check
 their suitability. We can look at some of the other causes afterwards
 The provider is 08456013701. I find it more reliable to access it using
QTPI . SOQL terminal lets me enter the number but when I press enter nothing
happens.
 Arnie


 - Original Message -
 From: AGClarke
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 5:37 PM
 Subject: [ql-users] soql


 Hi,
 On my laptop using qpc2v3, I cannot get it to connect to my modem as
it
 cannot find ser3.
 On my aurora machine it connects to my modem and logs on but the input
 to my screen is not readable.

 I will await for replies with interest. needless to say I have tried
 everthing that I can to get things working but I need Help!

 Arnie






Re: [ql-users] soql

2002-08-18 Thread Jonathan Dent


Looks like the providers trying to do a ppp connection. Maybe it
will work with the ppp version of soql but that's not quite finished
yet. I may be ready to do some testing next week. As there is no
text based login I think it may be expecting chap or pap for user
authentication. So as these won't be in the first ppp soql version
it may still not work :-( The providers I've been using here work
on a pay per call basis and thus require no particularly secure
authentication and thus work without chap or pap. If your provider
can't provide SLIP access I'm afraid you'll have to wait for the new
soql version or try uqlx where you're able to use the underlying
Linux TCP/IP stack. I don't no if QPC does anything similar.

Jon.


- Original Message -
From: AGClarke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] soql






 
  QPC:
  The soql engine will use other ser ports if you pass it a port option
  for example change the boot file line
 
  270 para$ = q t d ram1_tryDNS r  Tcp$  ipReceiver
 
  to
 
  270 para$ = q t d ram1_tryDNS r  Tcp$  ipReceiver s ser1
 
  to use ser1
 I get a report can.t find ser1(I have tried altering the configuration
 panel - how should it be set up?)
 
  Aurora
  It could have many causes including an unsuitable provider. Let me
  know the telephone number of your provider and I'll try to check
  their suitability. We can look at some of the other causes afterwards
  The provider is 08456013701. I find it more reliable to access it using
 QTPI . SOQL terminal lets me enter the number but when I press enter
nothing
 happens.
  Arnie
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: AGClarke
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 5:37 PM
  Subject: [ql-users] soql
 
 
  Hi,
  On my laptop using qpc2v3, I cannot get it to connect to my modem as
 it
  cannot find ser3.
  On my aurora machine it connects to my modem and logs on but the
input
  to my screen is not readable.
 
  I will await for replies with interest. needless to say I have tried
  everthing that I can to get things working but I need Help!
 
  Arnie