[ql-users] louder
Hi guys, Ive been fiddling around with sound on my Q60. Problem 1) Im using a standard PC speaker, but the sounds are so faint as to be barely audible. The Q60 manual says to use a speaker with an impedance of 32 or higher. Standard speakers are 8 Ohm, and I have yet to find an electronics shop that has heard of a 32 Ohm one. Is there another way to do this, or does anyone have a spare 3 - 4" speaker suitable for Qx0es kicking around that I could buy? Problem 2) Although barely audible, some samples recognisably sound the same on the Q60 as on QPC2, but others either sound different or cannot be heard at all. Any ideas? Or is this just a symptom of problem (1)? Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] louder
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 09:21:40 -, P Witte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi guys, Ive been fiddling around with sound on my Q60. Problem 1) Im using a standard PC speaker, but the sounds are so faint as to be barely audible. The Q60 manual says to use a speaker with an impedance of 32 or higher. Standard speakers are 8 Ohm, and I have yet to find an electronics shop that has heard of a 32 Ohm one. Is there another way to do this, or does anyone have a spare 3 - 4" speaker suitable for Qx0es kicking around that I could buy? Problem 2) Although barely audible, some samples recognisably sound the same on the Q60 as on QPC2, but others either sound different or cannot be heard at all. Any ideas? Or is this just a symptom of problem (1)? Per Are you using the sound device by Simon Goodwin or Wolfgang's Extensions? If you use the latter, you won't be able to play 10 or 40KHz samples which will sound too fast or too slow respectively. There is a trick to get it to work correctly on the Qx0, however I do not exactly remember what I did. I am sure Rich has kept notes on the issue (and how we solved it) Ffibys BTW: Rich I've replied to both your messages... are you getting my emails? ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] louder
Per Witte wrote: > Hi guys, > > Ive been fiddling around with sound on my Q60. > > Problem 1) Im using a standard PC speaker, but the sounds are so faint > as to be barely audible. The Q60 manual says to use a speaker with an > impedance of 32 or higher. Standard speakers are 8 Ohm, and I have yet > to find an electronics shop that has heard of a 32 Ohm one. Is there > another way to do this, or does anyone have a spare 3 - 4" speaker > suitable for Qx0es kicking around that I could buy? Maplin sells PC case size speakers in 8 Ohm and 64 Ohm versions, I bought a 64 Ohm one to replace the 8 Ohm one that came with the case and the loudness of sound improved. If you want louder sound SCAM International sell an external pair of loudspeakers with transformer, that can be plugged into the line out 3.5mm jack socket, this also has the advantage of stereo. This sounds like one to add to my Q60 FAQ. > Problem 2) Although barely audible, some samples recognisably sound > the same on the Q60 as on QPC2, but others either sound different or > cannot be heard at all. Any ideas? Or is this just a symptom > of problem (1)? -- Tarquin Mills (Chairman) ACCUS (Anglia Classic Computer Users Society) http://www.speccyverse.me.uk/comp/accus/ http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Spectrum/ (We want a Spectrum +4) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] louder
In a message dated 19/03/05 10:26:08 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Are you using the sound device by Simon Goodwin or Wolfgang's Extensions? > If you use the latter, you won't be able to play 10 or 40KHz samples which > will sound too fast or too slow respectively. > There is a trick to get it to work correctly on the Qx0, however I do not > exactly remember what I did. I am sure Rich has kept notes on the issue > (and how we solved it) > > You don't need extensions to make sound. I have been experimenting on my Q60 and Q40 by CALLing some simple assembler code which uses the SSS system directly. I am told that some of the sounds I produce are like wolf whistles. All you have to do is make up a mixture of sine waves of varying amplitude and frequency and listen to the result. Just to complete the program I display the first part of the two or three second wave on the screen. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Turbo v4b21
I have produced a second testing version of Turbo. This should shortly be on the SQLUG site. This version of Turbo corrects a fault in the earlier version which occurred with a program using MANIFEST. The new version, as did the previous one, allows parameters to be passed by "reference" so that new values can be set by the machine code routine. It also allows the passing of arrays to machine code procedures and functions. I would be glad of any feedback so that a final version can be produced. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] louder
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, P Witte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Hi guys, Ive been fiddling around with sound on my Q60. Problem 1) Im using a standard PC speaker, but the sounds are so faint as to be barely audible. The Q60 manual says to use a speaker with an impedance of 32 or higher. Standard speakers are 8 Ohm, and I have yet to find an electronics shop that has heard of a 32 Ohm one. Is there another way to do this, or does anyone have a spare 3 - 4" speaker suitable for Qx0es kicking around that I could buy? I have a small amplified speaker setup that I used to sell with Q40s when I was doing them. It fits into the 5.25" bay, is powered by a hard drive cable and just needs a little fiddling with the input cable to work. I am sure these are available new still and cost around 20 pounds with a volume control. I can get one for you if you want. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL-PC Fileserver
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Firshman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 at 21:03:56, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
Sernet should work on standard QL as long as you have the STX and SRX
split serial ports - which means you need either SMSQ/E or H P
Recktenwald's serial port extensions ("SimSer"). May have to use a low
baud rate, 9,600 or lower, don't think 19,200 stands a chance on a QL.
Obviously, for sernet, you have to have QDOS and/or SMSQ/E at both ends.
I think you have to have SMSQ/E on both ends for it to work.
--
Roy Wood
Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB
Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch
web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk
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Re: [ql-users] SQL on QDOS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 jms1 schrieb: > The original idea was to write the parser in archive but in view of > the feedback I think we had better think again. Perhaps SuperBasic > might be better. Any thoughts? SuperBASIC would be **much** better! wolfgang -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCPJ0uL0KE6Q1yFDcRAp15AJ9dGCYDx9dm2ncywVgoESpz6M3JbwCfUw+J KapugkU7sgSE5iziD9HRvDw= =ES38 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] louder
Ffibys writes: > > Ive been fiddling around with sound on my Q60. > > > > Problem 1) Im using a standard PC speaker, but the sounds are so faint > > as to > > be barely audible. The Q60 manual says to use a speaker with an > > impedance of > > 32 or higher. Standard speakers are 8 Ohm, and I have yet to find an > > electronics shop that has heard of a 32 Ohm one. Is there another way to > > do > > this, or does anyone have a spare 3 - 4" speaker suitable for Qx0es > > kicking > > around that I could buy? > > > > Problem 2) Although barely audible, some samples recognisably sound the > > same > > on the Q60 as on QPC2, but others either sound different or cannot be > > heard > > at all. Any ideas? Or is this just a symptom of problem (1)? > > > > Per > > > > Are you using the sound device by Simon Goodwin or Wolfgang's Extensions? > If you use the latter, you won't be able to play 10 or 40KHz samples which > will sound too fast or too slow respectively. > There is a trick to get it to work correctly on the Qx0, however I do not > exactly remember what I did. I am sure Rich has kept notes on the issue > (and how we solved it) I only want to play 20KHz samples to avoid the need for duplicate files across QPC2 and Qx0. Im not sure Rich did solve the problem, as QWord - beautiful as it looks on the Q60! - only beeps there, while it plays sampled sounds on QPC2. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Turbo v4b21
George Gwilt writes: > I have produced a second testing version of Turbo. This should shortly be on > the SQLUG site. > > This version of Turbo corrects a fault in the earlier version which occurred > with a program using MANIFEST. The new version, as did the previous one, > allows parameters to be passed by "reference" so that new values can be set by the > machine code routine. It also allows the passing of arrays to machine code > procedures and functions. > > I would be glad of any feedback so that a final version can be produced. If (when) this works it will remove a major deterrent to using Turbo (theres still the Vaccha-effect to overcome, but that should be minor in the scale of things ;) I need a break from testing software as Ive got some pressing stuff of my own to do, but Im very interested to hear how this goes. The day Turbo can be used with EasyPtr I may jump ship.. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] louder
Roy wood writes: > >Ive been fiddling around with sound on my Q60. > > > >Problem 1) Im using a standard PC speaker, but the sounds are so faint as to > >be barely audible. The Q60 manual says to use a speaker with an impedance of > >32 or higher. Standard speakers are 8 Ohm, and I have yet to find an > >electronics shop that has heard of a 32 Ohm one. Is there another way to do > >this, or does anyone have a spare 3 - 4" speaker suitable for Qx0es kicking > >around that I could buy? > I have a small amplified speaker setup that I used to sell with Q40s > when I was doing them. It fits into the 5.25" bay, is powered by a hard > drive cable and just needs a little fiddling with the input cable to > work. I am sure these are available new still and cost around 20 pounds > with a volume control. I can get one for you if you want. Yes please! (I'll write to you seperately) Thanks for all replies! Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] louder
I only want to play 20KHz samples to avoid the need for duplicate files across QPC2 and Qx0. Im not sure Rich did solve the problem, as QWord - beautiful as it looks on the Q60! - only beeps there, while it plays sampled sounds on QPC2. Per No, The Q60 DOES play sounds (I know because I have tried it :-) I did have both a Q60 and Q40 here so I tried both sides. I looked up my IM and email exchange with Rich on the matter and I remembered that Wolfgang's player initialises everything at 20KHz, which messes up the sound4_bin driver. However if you play a file with copy foobar_ub TO SOUNDx first, the problem is gone. As for QWord on the Q60's sound not working, make sure: a. That the installer did copy all the files properly. b. Run config from the Qword directory and instruct QWord as to the appropriate subdirectory to find the sound files... One problem I have run into is that if you manually install QWord in a "deeper" subdirectory the sound file names get truncated or exceed the ability of the background Music task to correctly copy them to RAM (where it plays them from). If the sound files are not found in RAM, QWord IIRC will not stop but will switch to BEEP sounds instead. BTW: BEEP sounds were messed up on SMSQ/e v. 3.03 > 3.07 but were fixed again on SMSQ/e >3.08 Wolfgang's music player is ONLY used for the PAUSE annoying theme (my bad ;-) ). In general if you can copy the UB files from QWord to the SOUND devices installed by sound4_bin, QWord should be also playing sound (as it uses that sound driver -simplified things immensely-) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Turbo v4b21
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 01:13:27 -, P Witte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: George Gwilt writes: I have produced a second testing version of Turbo. This should shortly be on the SQLUG site. This version of Turbo corrects a fault in the earlier version which occurred with a program using MANIFEST. The new version, as did the previous one, allows parameters to be passed by "reference" so that new values can be set by the machine code routine. It also allows the passing of arrays to machine code procedures and functions. I would be glad of any feedback so that a final version can be produced. If (when) this works it will remove a major deterrent to using Turbo (theres still the Vaccha-effect to overcome, but that should be minor in the scale of things ;) I need a break from testing software as Ive got some pressing stuff of my own to do, but Im very interested to hear how this goes. The day Turbo can be used with EasyPtr I may jump ship.. Per Passing by reference works RIGHT now (Q-Word is working with that :-) Ffibys As for EasyPTR... :-) I personally don't care :-) Although I do think it works... sort of (Ask Rich for details. I think he's using a part of EasyPTR for QWord) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] louder
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:50:31 EST, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In a message dated 19/03/05 10:26:08 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you using the sound device by Simon Goodwin or Wolfgang's Extensions? If you use the latter, you won't be able to play 10 or 40KHz samples which will sound too fast or too slow respectively. There is a trick to get it to work correctly on the Qx0, however I do not exactly remember what I did. I am sure Rich has kept notes on the issue (and how we solved it) You don't need extensions to make sound. I have been experimenting on my Q60 and Q40 by CALLing some simple assembler code which uses the SSS system directly. I am told that some of the sounds I produce are like wolf whistles. All you have to do is make up a mixture of sine waves of varying amplitude and frequency and listen to the result. Just to complete the program I display the first part of the two or three second wave on the screen. Definitely you do not need extensions to play sound on the QLSSS :-) However the sound4 extension is invaluable to play ready made sounds (and great combined with sox) - BTW: The windows version of sox produces proper sound files for the Q40/60/QPC - Half of Q-Word's sound samples were produced with that) The modulating waves idea is the basis for any "synthesizer" application. I have toyed with that in the past (with invaluable input from Simon Goodwin). It can also be used for a "Tracker" application. One can even mess with random variables inserted (for fuzz etc) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
