RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick
Yep. Tooling costs the earth. And, with a lot of companies we work for, the tooling plans are either sold to them, or destroyed, so that further ones cant be made, should the company have wished a limited edition of whatever device they commissioned. I'm asked one of the guys in the know to look at the back catalogue to see if we have a regtangular case there, but I doubt it. Even if we did, you'd probably find the rights to it don't belong to us anymore, but to the company that asked for it. Ho Hum Darren. -Original Message- From: Tony Firshman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 May 2005 14:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL on Stick On Fri, 20 May 2005 at 11:49:05, Darren Branagh wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) That would be lovely, a real 3D shaped USB Stick with the microdrives being the USB plug cover cap. I can probably get those purpose made, but at a 100 print run, expect to pay about 2,000 quid each at least!! Exactly. The tooling cost of the real QL case was, I think, £30,000 in the 80s. (we did one in the shape and colour of a human finger last month - the fingernail removed to show the USB connector - very classy!) I think the print run for those was about 25,000 units, was for a US Telecoms company. Mind you if there is tooling for a rectangular case, then that might be cost effective. Isn't the tooling the really expensive bit? Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick
Yes, you're missing something!! :-) We where talking of getting a mounded case made in the shape of a QL. Could be done, but for 100 or so units, would cost the earth. The sticky label idea wouldn't work - they'd wear off in about 5 mins of throwing them about, and the stick is not square, its tapered and slightly rounded at the ends - a label would crease and look awful. We can print directly onto the stick, the same way promotional pens and keyrings are done, and it looks great. But it's a minimum order of 100. Cheers, Darren. Am I missing something here, or could Darren just get some transparent sticky labels (e.g. from Avery) and laser print a QL picture or something onto them and wrap it around the body of the QL Stick? Dilwyn Jones That would be lovely, a real 3D shaped USB Stick with the microdrives being the USB plug cover cap. I can probably get those purpose made, but at a 100 print run, expect to pay about 2,000 quid each at least!! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 20/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL on Stick
On Mon, 23 May 2005 at 10:05:42, Darren Branagh wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Yes, you're missing something!! :-) We where talking of getting a mounded case made in the shape of a QL. Could be done, but for 100 or so units, would cost the earth. The sticky label idea wouldn't work - they'd wear off in about 5 mins of throwing them about, and the stick is not square, its tapered and slightly rounded at the ends - a label would crease and look awful. We can print directly onto the stick, the same way promotional pens and keyrings are done, and it looks great. But it's a minimum order of 100. I reckon that a QL printed on the stick is a lot better than nothing at all. How about a white stick, with a black QL printed on as large as is feasible. The lettering of the keys (and the Sinclair and QL) would simply be the white case plastic showing through. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick
At 11:49 20/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: That would be lovely, a real 3D shaped USB Stick with the microdrives being the USB plug cover cap. I can probably get those purpose made, but at a 100 print run, expect to pay about 2,000 quid each at least!! It really is not sensible to think along such commercial lines. I can envisage a much more economical solution. I would need to have an example of the stick and as I no longer posses a BlackBox , a pic of the top and dimensions for proportion. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 20/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL on Stick
Am I missing something here, or could Darren just get some transparent sticky labels (e.g. from Avery) and laser print a QL picture or something onto them and wrap it around the body of the QL Stick? Dilwyn Jones That would be lovely, a real 3D shaped USB Stick with the microdrives being the USB plug cover cap. I can probably get those purpose made, but at a 100 print run, expect to pay about 2,000 quid each at least!! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 20/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick
That would be lovely, a real 3D shaped USB Stick with the microdrives being the USB plug cover cap. I can probably get those purpose made, but at a 100 print run, expect to pay about 2,000 quid each at least!! (we did one in the shape and colour of a human finger last month - the fingernail removed to show the USB connector - very classy!) I think the print run for those was about 25,000 units, was for a US Telecoms company. Darren. -Original Message- From: David Tubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 May 2005 11:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] QL on Stick At 11:11 20/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: I see it as covering the whole visible part when in the computer. Wouldn't it look good if it looked like a QL stuck in the slot (8-)# While thoughts are on packaging rather than content (is that not the time consuming bit) surely it should be a 3D miniature of the QL, removing the mdv end to reveal the USB con'. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.13 - Release Date: 19/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick
I liked it too. None left, the entire shipment sent to the US not long after I joined here. The MD has one - and I think he is guarding it with his life!! They don't happen that often, as they are expensive to do. They did one in the shape of a cruise ship a year or two ago. Cheers, Darren. -Original Message- From: David Tubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 May 2005 12:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick At 11:49 20/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: (we did one in the shape and colour of a human finger last month - the fingernail removed to show the USB connector - very classy!) I Now that I like Very digital, the Fickle Finger of Fate ! Insert finger here ??? Is here one left kicking around the floor somewhere ? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.13 - Release Date: 19/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick
At 12:28 20/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: None left, the entire shipment sent to the US not long after I joined here. Great pity, when such a special is made do you start with the bare electronics ? If so what would the poss' be of acquiring ? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.13 - Release Date: 19/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL on Stick
On Fri, 20 May 2005 at 11:28:26, David Tubbs wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) At 11:11 20/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: I see it as covering the whole visible part when in the computer. Wouldn't it look good if it looked like a QL stuck in the slot (8-)# While thoughts are on packaging rather than content (is that not the time consuming bit) surely it should be a 3D miniature of the QL, removing the mdv end to reveal the USB con'. That is the sort of thing, but are users willing to pay more for the packaging that the product? A special moulding would be expensive to tool. I investigated a case for RomDisq, but it was not affordable in small quantities. Tooling cost was too high. ... and then we were talking hundreds. I think the best we can hope for is a printed QL image. If it is large enough, then it might look like a QL with rounded edges. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL on Stick
On Fri, 20 May 2005 at 11:49:05, Darren Branagh wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) That would be lovely, a real 3D shaped USB Stick with the microdrives being the USB plug cover cap. I can probably get those purpose made, but at a 100 print run, expect to pay about 2,000 quid each at least!! Exactly. The tooling cost of the real QL case was, I think, £30,000 in the 80s. (we did one in the shape and colour of a human finger last month - the fingernail removed to show the USB connector - very classy!) I think the print run for those was about 25,000 units, was for a US Telecoms company. Mind you if there is tooling for a rectangular case, then that might be cost effective. Isn't the tooling the really expensive bit? Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
