about users/assign

1999-05-04 Thread Yessure

Hi,
 I am writing a web mail system based on qmail. For the security reason,i am using 
users/assign(and hash table users/cdb) instead of system /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.
 It works fine. But the problem is, if there is 10 or more users can it works fine 
still? I know users/cdb is an hashed table,so qmail can access fast enough, but once 
an 
user added, system had to do a '/var/qmail/bin/qmail-newu' to re-hash it. I donnt't  
know,if it can still  be fast enough? And if not, how can I do?

Thanks very much.


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Re: about users/assign

1999-05-04 Thread Dave Sill

Yessure [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am writing a web mail system based on qmail. For the security
 reason,i am using users/assign(and hash table users/cdb) instead of
 system /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.  It works fine. But the problem
 is, if there is 10 or more users can it works fine still? I know
 users/cdb is an hashed table,so qmail can access fast enough, but
 once an user added, system had to do a '/var/qmail/bin/qmail-newu'
 to re-hash it. I donnt't know,if it can still be fast enough? And if
 not, how can I do?

Well, you could always test it. :-)

An indication of the performance of cdb is given by DJB in
ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/fastforward.html: 

]I put together an /etc/aliases file with 5 aliases of the form
]31415:[EMAIL PROTECTED] sendmail's newaliases took 356 seconds of CPU time
](spread over more than ten minutes of real time) to create
]/etc/aliases.db. fastforward's newaliases created /etc/aliases.cdb in
]under 6 seconds.

This is a fastforward database, but qmail-users should be comparable.

-Dave



why csh?

1999-05-04 Thread Marlon Anthony Abao

hello, 
am running qmail as follows :

/bin/csh -cf '/usr/local/bin/supervise /var/run/qmail /var/qmail/rc '

but why csh?  why not use the default shell (in my case, bash)?  

just wondering...

-marlon






Re: why csh?

1999-05-04 Thread Dave Sill

Marlon Anthony Abao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   am running qmail as follows :

/bin/csh -cf '/usr/local/bin/supervise /var/run/qmail /var/qmail/rc '

   but why csh?  why not use the default shell (in my case, bash)?  

   just wondering...

Bash will work, too. Dan recommends csh because it's ubiquitous, and
it disassociates background jobs so they aren't killed off when the
parent exits.

-Dave



Re: Capture domains

1999-05-04 Thread Anand Buddhdev

On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 12:43:59PM +0100, Tom Furie wrote:

I'm assuming you're talking about qmail-smtpd here.

 Hello,
 
 Okay, so I can set qmail to accept and queue mail for 'user@domain'. How do
 I allow mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to be captured by the same queue? Is
 there some wildcard I can use?

Put:

.domain

in control/rcpthosts.

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Re: Capture domains

1999-05-04 Thread Dave Sill

"Tom Furie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Okay, so I can set qmail to accept and queue mail for 'user@domain'.

Good for you. :-)

How do I allow mail to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to be captured by the same
queue?

What do you mean by "the same queue"? There's only one queue per qmail 
installation. Can't you handle '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' the same way you did
'user@domain'?

Perhaps if you told us how you did 'user@domain' (and please use a
real example), we can provide advice for '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'.

-Dave



qmail and smtp error messages

1999-05-04 Thread Jason

im running qmail 1.03 on a redhat 6.0 machine and was formerly running
qmail 1.01 on redhat 5.2.. ive got a "dedicated" dial-up connection to 
the internet with dynamic dns to register my hostname (welsh.dynip.com)
i can send and receive smtp mail just fine except to a few domains..
mindspring.com, and aol.com. Other domains I can mail to just fine.
the error i get is 

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at welsh.dynip.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Connected to 207.69.200.126 but sender was rejected.
Remote host said: 550-MindSpring mail servers are unable to deliver this
e-mail.
550-Please contact your Internet Service Provider to find out how
550-to send e-mail using the proper SMTP server.  If you are a
550-MindSpring customer, and need assistance configuring your e-mail
550-software, please contact MindSpring Technical Support at the
550 telephone number listed in your documentation.

--- Below this line is a copy of the
message.

I can email my friend from work and mindspring accepts the mail just
fine.
anyway, ive emailed mindspring support many times and they cant figure
it out.. ive
asked them if theyre blocking the dynip.com domain, and they say they
arent..
anyone have any ideas?

regards,
Jason

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EZMLM

1999-05-04 Thread Julian L.C. Brown


Would someone be so kind as to write out quick and dirty instructions of
how to set up a mail list.  I have compiled / installed EZMLM but the
instructions are for single domain machines and I have multiple domains.
It's only 5 lines or so so if you one of you could do that for me I would
appreciate it thanks


Regards,

Julian L.C. Brown
Interware.Net Inc.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.interware.net




Re: qmail and smtp error messages

1999-05-04 Thread Timothy L. Mayo

The dynamic DNS registration is only mapping your forward lookup
(name-IP).  I believe the problem is that AOL and mindspring are doing
reverse lookups (IP-name) which of course return the fact that you are
sending from a dialup IP from sprint.net.  The simple fix is to use
Sprints SMTP server as a relay for all mail going to AOL and mindspring.

Others may have better suggestions.  That's the best I can come up with.
:)

On Tue, 4 May 1999, Jason wrote:

 im running qmail 1.03 on a redhat 6.0 machine and was formerly running
 qmail 1.01 on redhat 5.2.. ive got a "dedicated" dial-up connection to 
 the internet with dynamic dns to register my hostname (welsh.dynip.com)
 i can send and receive smtp mail just fine except to a few domains..
 mindspring.com, and aol.com. Other domains I can mail to just fine.
 the error i get is 
 
 Hi. This is the qmail-send program at welsh.dynip.com.
 I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
 addresses.
 This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Connected to 207.69.200.126 but sender was rejected.
 Remote host said: 550-MindSpring mail servers are unable to deliver this
 e-mail.
 550-Please contact your Internet Service Provider to find out how
 550-to send e-mail using the proper SMTP server.  If you are a
 550-MindSpring customer, and need assistance configuring your e-mail
 550-software, please contact MindSpring Technical Support at the
 550 telephone number listed in your documentation.
 
 --- Below this line is a copy of the
 message.
 
 I can email my friend from work and mindspring accepts the mail just
 fine.
 anyway, ive emailed mindspring support many times and they cant figure
 it out.. ive
 asked them if theyre blocking the dynip.com domain, and they say they
 arent..
 anyone have any ideas?
 
 regards,
 Jason
 
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 ||   good in everybody, you   |
 |  http://welsh.dynip.com/   |   haven't met everybody.   |
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Re: qmail and smtp error messages

1999-05-04 Thread Dave Sill

Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Connected to 207.69.200.126 but sender was rejected.
Remote host said: 550-MindSpring mail servers are unable to deliver this
e-mail.
550-Please contact your Internet Service Provider to find out how
550-to send e-mail using the proper SMTP server.  If you are a
550-MindSpring customer, and need assistance configuring your e-mail
550-software, please contact MindSpring Technical Support at the
550 telephone number listed in your documentation.

Congratulations, you're a martyr in the War on Spam. You suffer so
others don't have to. Thanks for the sacrifice.

The spamically correct thing for you to do is configure your qmail to
send everything out through your ISP's mail hub.

-Dave



Re: 'To:' header missing, mail not delivered

1999-05-04 Thread Sam

James McGlinn writes:

 When I tell their forms to send the email to my account with another
 ISP, the header of the email has no 'To:' field, but the 'Received'
 fields all end
 with:

To: headers have absolutely nothing to do with a message's sender or list
of recipients, and is completely irrelevant.  To:, just like any other
header, is purely informational in nature.

 I'm fairly new to qmail, so I wouldn't be surprised if I've overlooked
 something obvious, but I can't find any reference to this sort of
 thing in the mailing list archive.

The first thing you need to do is read RFC821 and RFC822, in order to get a
better idea of how E-mail delivery works.  Afterwards, you can attempt to
track down the source fo your problem.

-- 
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'To:' header missing, mail not delivered

1999-05-04 Thread James McGlinn

If anyone can help me with this it would be greatly appreciated:

I can receive mail from users at InterNIC without problems, however mail
automatically generated by their Domain Modification forms is causing
problems
with Qmail.  The only difference in the two types of messages appears to
be that mail created by InterNIC's forms doesn't have a 'To:' header
field. 
When I tell their forms to send the email to my account with another
ISP, the header of the email has no 'To:' field, but the 'Received'
fields all end
with:

... for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

When I tell the InterNIC forms to send the email to my address on the
Qmail machine, the qmail-smtpd log files show a connection (and 'OK' as
with all the other successfully delivered mail) but the qmail log files
don't have any record of the mail, and I never receive it.  The sending
machine at InterNIC must know there's a problem, because it tries to
resend periodically (more 'OK' entries in the qmail-smtpd log).

I'm fairly new to qmail, so I wouldn't be surprised if I've overlooked
something obvious, but I can't find any reference to this sort of
thing in the mailing list archive.

Best regards,

James McGlinn
Auckland, NZ

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qmail Digest 4 May 1999 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 630

1999-05-04 Thread qmail-digest-help


qmail Digest 4 May 1999 10:00:01 - Issue 630

Topics (messages 25152 through 25179):

procmail-~/Maildir
25152 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Aliases and vchkpw
25153 by: Stefan Osterman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

need help - the client cannot download mail
25154 by: Anand Buddhdev [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Email header
25155 by: Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Virtual domain redirect for one user...?
25156 by: Doug McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED]
25157 by: Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

unsubscribe from mailinglist
25158 by: Rainer Krogull [EMAIL PROTECTED]

new-user template as indicated in INSTALL.Maildir
25159 by: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
25161 by: "Matt Buford" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
25162 by: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
25163 by: "Julian L.C. Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
25164 by: Joel Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED]
25166 by: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
25168 by: Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Envelope filters
25160 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

forwarding of e-mail
25165 by: Sean Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
25167 by: "Julian L.C. Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

qmail start problem
25169 by: Samuel Dries-Daffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
25170 by: Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
25173 by: Richard Letts [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Change the default inbox
25171 by: S P Arif Sahari Wibowo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
25178 by: Anand Buddhdev [EMAIL PROTECTED]

rblsmtpd error redirection?
25172 by: "Barton" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
25174 by: Chris Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Can't send: not in rcpthost; Maildir
25175 by: Stephane Morand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
25176 by: Chris Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Next version of qmail?
25177 by: John Conover [EMAIL PROTECTED]
25179 by: Anand Buddhdev [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Administrivia:

To subscribe to the digest, e-mail:
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To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail:
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John Conover [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is there a way of executing procmail do ~/.procmailrc, and if email
 is not rejected for a user, it is delivered into a ~/Maildir?
 
 BTW, eg., use my standard spam filter for users that want it, but
 want to fetch mail via POP3 in a Maildir.

If I understand you correctly, you want mail to be pumped through
procmail--and to be delivered to a maildir if it falls through all of
your procmail filters.

The qmail way to do that is to put something like this in your
.qmail-ext file:

   |preline procmail
   ./Maildir/

To make this work, your "rejecting" recipes must return exit code 99,
telling qmail to ignore the next instruction(s). Be aware that
procmail itself has a default delivery instruction, for mails that
"fall through", and you don't want to trigger it. A recipe like this,
as your last recipe, should do the trick:

   :0
   /dev/null

On the other hand, there is an easier way (YMMV). You can use the
patched procmail which can do maildir deliveries, and make your last
recipe a maildir delivery--or set $DEFAULT appropriately in the rc
file.

If you'd rather not use a patched procmail (my preference), there is a
program which does maildir delivery of messages posted on stdin--just
what you need. It's called "safecat", and it's available at the URL:
http://www.pobox.com/~lbudney/linux/software/safecat.html

To use it, make your last recipe the following:

   :0w
   |safecat $HOME/Maildir/tmp $HOME/Maildir/new

Used in this way, procmail+safecat should be as safe as qmail's own
maildir delivery.

Len.

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How do I setup aliases with vchkpw? Can I use the fastforward package?

Thanks

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On Mon, May 03, 1999 at 04:46:39PM +0700, Sobari Tanuwijaya wrote:

This isn't stricly a qmail problem, unless you happen to be using
qmail-pop3d. If you're running qmail-pop3d, it would help if you gave us
the full command line for starting the POP server. Also, have you verified
that the password the client is using is correct? If so, how did you verify
it? Basically, you need to do some 

Re: Next version of qmail?

1999-05-04 Thread Anand Buddhdev

On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 06:51:33AM -, John Conover wrote:

No. You'll see it when Dan decides to release it, and he won't give us any
schedules.

 Is there a planned target date for the next release of qmail?
 
   Thanks,
 
   John

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Re: EZMLM

1999-05-04 Thread Russell Nelson

Julian L.C. Brown writes:
  
  Would someone be so kind as to write out quick and dirty instructions of
  how to set up a mail list.  I have compiled / installed EZMLM but the
  instructions are for single domain machines and I have multiple domains.
  It's only 5 lines or so so if you one of you could do that for me I would
  appreciate it thanks

Assuming that you send your virtualdomains into alias-example

ezmlm-make ~alias/list ~alias/.qmail-example-list list example.com

Then modify ~alias/list/inlocal so it says "alias-example-list".

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Re: Change the default inbox

1999-05-04 Thread Anand Buddhdev

On Mon, May 03, 1999 at 03:46:07PM -0500, S P Arif Sahari Wibowo wrote:

Change your qmail-start invocation and set aliasempty to ./.INBOX, like
this:

exec env - PATH="/usr/local/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start ./.INBOX splogger qmail

 Hi!
 
 Is it possible to have the default inbox not $HOME/Mailbox, but different
 file, say $HOME/.INBOX?
 
 This is for default (system-wide) setting, not user per user setting
 (which should be done with .qmail file).

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Re: Read flag on message.

1999-05-04 Thread Sam

Andy Walden writes:

 
 What marks a message as read or new? I'm trying to reinstate the "You have
 new Mail" when people login and figured I would write a program to do it
 since I couldn't find one. I also need a program to just list new mail
 headers. Does anyone know the flag that gets set to make a message New or
 Read? Thanks. andy

That depends on whether or not you use mailbox files or Maildirs.  mailbox
files use the Status: header in each individual message.  For Maildirs, see
the man page for maildir(5), and http://pobox.com/~djb/proto/maildir.html
-- 
Sam



Re: Read flag on message.

1999-05-04 Thread Andy Walden


 Andy Walden writes:
 
  
  What marks a message as read or new? I'm trying to reinstate the "You have
  new Mail" when people login and figured I would write a program to do it
  since I couldn't find one. I also need a program to just list new mail
  headers. Does anyone know the flag that gets set to make a message New or
  Read? Thanks. andy
 
 That depends on whether or not you use mailbox files or Maildirs.  mailbox
 files use the Status: header in each individual message.  For Maildirs, see
 the man page for maildir(5), and http://pobox.com/~djb/proto/maildir.html

I use maildirs, but I don't see what you are refering to on the man page.

andy



Re: Read flag on message.

1999-05-04 Thread Chris Johnson

On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 11:49:09AM -0500, Andy Walden wrote:
  Andy Walden writes:
  
   
   What marks a message as read or new? I'm trying to reinstate the "You have
   new Mail" when people login and figured I would write a program to do it
   since I couldn't find one. I also need a program to just list new mail
   headers. Does anyone know the flag that gets set to make a message New or
   Read? Thanks. andy
  
  That depends on whether or not you use mailbox files or Maildirs.  mailbox
  files use the Status: header in each individual message.  For Maildirs, see
  the man page for maildir(5), and http://pobox.com/~djb/proto/maildir.html
 
 I use maildirs, but I don't see what you are refering to on the man page.

You might also want to look at the source code for maildirwatch. I haven't
looked at it, so I don't know how helpful it will be, but here's what its man
page says:

NAME
   maildirwatch - look for new mail in a maildir

SYNOPSIS
   maildirwatch

DESCRIPTION
   maildirwatch  watches your maildir for new mail.  You must
   supply a MAILDIR environment variable  with  the  name  of
   your maildir directory.

   maildirwatch  prints  a new mail summary twice per minute.
   It is designed to run inside a (VT100-compatible)  window;
   it clears the window before each summary.

Chris



Re: Read flag on message.

1999-05-04 Thread Dave Sill

Andy Walden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I use maildirs, but I don't see what you are refering to on the man page.

How about:

Each file in new is a newly delivered mail message.

And:

Files in cur are just like files in new.  The big difference is
that files in cur are no longer new mail: they have been seen by
the user's mail-reading program.

-Dave



Re: Read flag on message.

1999-05-04 Thread Andy Walden

 Andy Walden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I use maildirs, but I don't see what you are refering to on the man page.
 
 How about:
 
 Each file in new is a newly delivered mail message.
 
 And:
 
 Files in cur are just like files in new.  The big difference is
 that files in cur are no longer new mail: they have been seen by
 the user's mail-reading program.

Except that using pine and mbox2maildir, the messages never hit the
current directory and still maintain a read or unread flag. The are taken
out of the new directory and put back into the new directory regardless of
whether they have been read or not.

andy



Re: Read flag on message.

1999-05-04 Thread Dave Sill

Andy Walden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Except that using pine and mbox2maildir, the messages never hit the
current directory and still maintain a read or unread flag.

Sounds like mbox2maildir is broken, then. Pine uses the Status header
field, as Sam said, in the mbox format mailbox. mbox2maildir should
use that information to decide where to file messages in the maildir.

-Dave



Re: EZMLM

1999-05-04 Thread Julian L.C. Brown


Assuming that you send your virtualdomains into alias-example

ezmlm-make ~alias/list ~alias/.qmail-example-list list example.com

Then modify ~alias/list/inlocal so it says "alias-example-list".

Let me try to explain my setup.  It's custom, not out of the box .. I
really appreciate your help.  The way I understand that most virtual
domains are setup is that they have a user that is unique to the domain
that controls the domain.  This is not the case on my system, I have one
solitary user named popuser that handles all the domains.  I don't know
where this comes in to the picture, but when I add those alias files with
ezmlm-make and send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it does not
work.  I do have other aliases that have the same nomenclature though.  I
am not really sure how to explain this I hope I have given you something to
work with



Qpopper?

1999-05-04 Thread John Gonzalez/netMDC admin


It appears that Qpopper has released a public beta and i missed the
announcement. Is anyone out there running it? Good/bad, any exploits that
are known, etc?

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Re: Read flag on message.

1999-05-04 Thread Andy Walden

I guess when its being converted from maildir to mbox its not maildir
anymore. So status was the answer I was looking for. Thank you. 

andy

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On Tue, 4 May 1999, Dave Sill wrote:

 Andy Walden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Except that using pine and mbox2maildir, the messages never hit the
 current directory and still maintain a read or unread flag.
 
 Sounds like mbox2maildir is broken, then. Pine uses the Status header
 field, as Sam said, in the mbox format mailbox. mbox2maildir should
 use that information to decide where to file messages in the maildir.
 
 -Dave
 



Re: EZMLM

1999-05-04 Thread aram

Assuming you used Paul Gregg's 'Single-UID based POP3 box HOWTO'

for [EMAIL PROTECTED] try:

ezmlm-make ~popuser/domain-com/list ~popuser/domain-com/list/.qmail \
list domain.com

chown -R popuser.popuser ~popuser/domain-com/list

Aram

On Tue, May 04, 1999 at 02:12:42PM -0400, Julian L.C. Brown wrote:
 
 Assuming that you send your virtualdomains into alias-example
 
 ezmlm-make ~alias/list ~alias/.qmail-example-list list example.com
 
 Then modify ~alias/list/inlocal so it says "alias-example-list".
 
 Let me try to explain my setup.  It's custom, not out of the box .. I
 really appreciate your help.  The way I understand that most virtual
 domains are setup is that they have a user that is unique to the domain
 that controls the domain.  This is not the case on my system, I have one
 solitary user named popuser that handles all the domains.  I don't know
 where this comes in to the picture, but when I add those alias files with
 ezmlm-make and send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it does not
 work.  I do have other aliases that have the same nomenclature though.  I
 am not really sure how to explain this I hope I have given you something to
 work with
 



Re: EZMLM

1999-05-04 Thread Julian L.C. Brown

At 11:49 AM 5/4/99 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Assuming you used Paul Gregg's 'Single-UID based POP3 box HOWTO'

for [EMAIL PROTECTED] try:

ezmlm-make ~popuser/domain-com/list ~popuser/domain-com/list/.qmail \
list domain.com

chown -R popuser.popuser ~popuser/domain-com/list

This works partly -- it will archive the messages but listserv(my alias
name) -subscribe and listserv-help return nothing..  Why is that?


Regards,

Julian L.C. Brown
Interware.Net Inc.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.interware.net




Acting as a middleman

1999-05-04 Thread Brett Borger

Hi there.  
Just as a warning, I'm new to the list, and have a question.  I tried
to check the FAQ and archives for the answer, but my lack of
mailer-term knowledge stimied me.  So, apologies if this question was
asked before, but I don't know how to describe it.

First, some background:  We run a Novell file server, and use Mercury
mail for our POP system.  Mercury, in case you don't know, is
SMTP-stupid...anything non-local it passes to a specified SMTP-aware
system to deliver.  Since our Novell admin knew the IP of another
SMTP-aware box at the university, no problems.

Until one morning when the admin of the other box decided that our
department shouldn't be allowed to deliver.  

We were using a small 486 running Linux as our webserver at the time,
running the sendmail that was installed with it.  (Slackware 3.5, I
think).  In desperation, we pointed the growing backlog of mail at the
webserver.  Amazingly, it cleared out the backlog in 8 minutes and
served quite dutifully, despite some immense files thrown at it.
[What this says about the security of sendmail I'll ignore for the
moment].

Anyway, in time we upgraded the Linux box to RedHat 5.2 on a PentiumII
450.  Now that I was a slightly more experienced Linux administrator,
I tried to increase some security...xinetd, etc...including qmail.

All was well and good, but as time passed it became obvious that it
was more effort that it is worth to maintain two separate linux boxes
of two distributions when the one box can do everything.  So we want
to repeat our trick.  

My question (finally!):  How do I configure qmail to send mail routed
to it from another host?  Without messing up delivery by qmail for
messages generated from the same box?

Example:  www.example.edu is running qmail on Linux.
other.example.edu is running Novell w/Mercury.  

POP messages are sent to other.example.edu as they currently do.
other.example.edu delivers any local messages, while sending any
non-local messages to www.example.edu to be delivered.
www.example.edu accepts any messages from other.example.edu and does
the lookup/delivery to wherever.  (incoming messages from other hosts
will go directly to other.example.edu)  At the same time, the web
server on www.example.edu will send messages to wherever as well
(using qmail), which it does now and which I have no desire to break.

Thanks for any help in advance.  I am totally new to mailer
administration, so if this has been answered at length you can just
point me in the right directions with some terminology help.

BTW, we attempted to simply "point" as we did before, but the mail did
not deliver.  I'm afraid I don't have the log entries on hand, but if
it is helpful (i.e. it should work without special configuration) I
can get with our Novell admin and repeat the test.





Re: Read flag on message.

1999-05-04 Thread Sam

Andy Walden writes:

  Andy Walden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I use maildirs, but I don't see what you are refering to on the man page.
  
  How about:
  
  Each file in new is a newly delivered mail message.
  
  And:
  
  Files in cur are just like files in new.  The big difference is
  that files in cur are no longer new mail: they have been seen by
  the user's mail-reading program.
 
 Except that using pine and mbox2maildir, the messages never hit the
 current directory and still maintain a read or unread flag. The are taken
 out of the new directory and put back into the new directory regardless of
 whether they have been read or not.

All that means is that the software you're using is broken.

-- 
Sam



Re: Acting as a middleman

1999-05-04 Thread Scott Schwartz

Brett Borger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| BTW, we attempted to simply "point" as we did before, but the mail did
| not deliver.  I'm afraid I don't have the log entries on hand, ...

Unfortunately, qmail-smtpd does not *make* any log entries.  This is a
huge defect, as you can see.  You'll have to rely getting the bounce
messages, whereever they wind up.