Re: ANNOUNCE: Native Qmail-based virus scanner - scan4virus-0.1

1999-11-22 Thread Jason Haar

On Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 05:04:41PM +1300, Jason Haar wrote:
> As I don't have anywhere to put this up - I'll post the package to the list
> (it's only 15K). If anyone else is interested in cleaning up my code -
> please do - but please be gentle :-)

Sigh - munted it on the first attempt :-(

Forgot to mention it needs to be setuid qmailq - just like qmail-queue/etc. 

Find attached a patch - it's now v0.11...

-- 
Cheers

Jason Haar

Unix/Network Specialist, Trimble NZ
Phone: +64 3 3391 377 Fax: +64 3 3391 417
 

 scan4virus-0.11.patch.gz


Re: Remote users not able to send messages anywhere but here

1999-11-22 Thread Chris Johnson

On Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 09:31:47AM +1000, Cameron Arnott wrote:
> Hi,
> I need some help.. I have qmail setup with tcpserver and procmail
> with mail going successfully to /var/spool/mail/
> 
> I can send messages anywhere from the local machine and on the local
> network.
> However I wish to provide a service where i can have members access
> their email from their existing isp setup..
> heres a map of how i want it to work
> 
> member calls their isp
> member checks for email on their email account here
> member replys to email to external email source   --- this isn't
> working. why?

You're going to have to be a lot more specific than "this isn't working" if you
want to get an answer.

I'll go out on a limb and suggest that you read
http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#relaying

Chris



Re: Help! I am still a open relay!!

1999-11-22 Thread Chris Johnson

On Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 11:23:26AM +0800, Michael Boman wrote:
> I have been following the instructions in
> http://qmail-docs.surfdirect.com.au/docs/qmail-antirelay.html but it seems
> like I am still an open relay! What is wrong?!
> 
> What I want to do is allow any user on my C-net / LAN to send mail thru the
> SMTP server without any limitations, and the world only send/recive mails
> either to or from a @company address.
> 
> LOCALHOST: can send as who-ever@what-ever to anyone@anyhost
> LAN: can send as who-ever@what-ever to anyone@anyhost
> OUR C-NET: can send as who-ever@what-ever to anyone@anyhost
> WORLD: can send as user@company to anyone@anyhost
> 
> Best regards,
> Michael Boman
> 
> PS
> The files:
> 
> # cat /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
> intsys.wizoffice.com
> intsys.wizoffice.com.sg
> localhost
> webmail.intsys.wizoffice.com
> webmail.intsys.wizoffice.com.sg
> webmail.wizoffice.com
> webmail.wizoffice.com.sg
> wizoffice.com
> wizoffice.com.sg
> 
> # cat /etc/tcp.smtp
> 192.168.2.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> 10.1.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> 203.117.18.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> :allow

If those are really your files and you haven't patched qmail-smtpd in some
weird way, then your relay isn't open.

Are you sure that it is?

Chris



LWQ qmail rc script addition

1999-11-22 Thread Peter Cavender

I just discovered that if you are using the LWQ qmail rc script with 
RHL 6.1, you need to add the following lines:

to the "start" section:
touch /var/lock/subsys/qmail

to the "stop" section:
rm -f  /var/lock/subsys/qmail

Otherwise, qmail will not be properly shut down; the main rc script 
looks for the lock file before it cans a "subsystem".

Note that I arbitrarily chose "qmail" as the name of the lock file, 
but it seems a logical choice.

I dunno how this relates, if at all, to other Linux distros.

Pete Cavender

---
Curt Cobain understood gun control:  He hit exactly where he was aiming.



ANNOUNCE: Native Qmail-based virus scanner - scan4virus-0.1

1999-11-22 Thread Jason Haar

As I don't have anywhere to put this up - I'll post the package to the list
(it's only 15K). If anyone else is interested in cleaning up my code -
please do - but please be gentle :-)

As usual, it works for me but I'll give no guarantees how it'll work for you.

I'll include the README below for details.

-- 
Cheers

Jason Haar

Unix/Network Specialist, Trimble NZ
Phone: +64 3 3391 377 Fax: +64 3 3391 417

+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

This is the README for scan4virus v0.1
-- 

The scan4virus package can be inserted into a (currently) patched
qmail-1.03 system to provide virus protection for all incoming SMTP
traffic.

Required Packages

Qmail-1.03
Perl 5.005_03+
Maildrop-0.73   http://www.flounder.net/~mrsam/maildrop/>
Bruce Guenter's QMAILQUEUE patch http://www.qmail.org/qmailqueue-patch>

 
Perl module Time::HiRes (if debugging enabled)

So-far tested Virus scanners:

 Trend's Virus scanner for Linux
 MacAfee's (NAI's) virus scanner for Linux
 

The QMAILQUEUE patch allows you to tell qmail to use an alternate
qmail-queue program - in this case antivirus-qmail-queue.pl. It
unpacks the message into its MIME components, decides whether or not
it has a virus (by running file scanners over it) and then either: 

a) resends it to the end destination (by unsetting QMAILQUEUE)

or

b) notifies sender (and optionally CC's to local admin) that message
   has a virus, stores it, and exits.


*** TODO ***

Currently due to my lack of in-depth knowledge of programming
anything, I don't know how to handle the fact that there are multiple
processes accessing both STDIN and STDOUT. This leads to problems with
locally generated Emails that are piped straight into Email, and means
that I can't do the proper job of getting antivirus-qmail-queue.pl to
call /var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue directly after it's finished. IF
SOMEONE COULD HELP ME OUT THAT'D BE APPRECIATED. If we get that
working, then Bruce's patch wouldn't be needed.

I've been using it for over a month here - just on my own Email. It
takes on average 0.4 seconds to scan with TWO scanners an average
sized message, and around a minute for a 20Mb mixed tar and zip file
message - not bad... ;-) If the STDIN/STDOUT issue could be rectified,
this could become a general release for us at least...

Anyway, to install:

* edit antivirus-qmail-queue.pl setting PATHs/etc accordingly. Configure
which scanners you have (currently either MacAfee's or Trends) - check
out subroutines uvscan_scanner and iscan_scanner to ensure
directories/etc are correct. Also it's up to you to install all that
and download/keep up-to-date virus DAT files/etc ;-)

* cp antivirus-qmail-queue.pl /var/qmail/bin/antivirus-qmail-queue.pl
* chown qmailq:qmail /var/qmail/bin/antivirus-qmail-queue.pl
* mkdir -p /var/spool/qmailscan/failed/new /var/spool/qmailscan/viruses/new \
/var/spool/qmailscan/working/new 
* chown -R qmailq:qmail /var/spool/qmailscan/


then alter qmail startup to the following:

echo -n "qmail-smtpd, "
QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/antivirus-qmail-queue" export QMAILQUEUE

(ulimit -d 2048 -m 2048 && tcpserver -l`hostname -f` -c20 -b40 -P -h -R -t10 -O -Q -v 
-x/var/qmail/control/tcprules.cdb -g505 -u400 0 25 qmail-smtpd 2>&1) | splogger 
tcpserver &


..or whatever yours is like. Basically set QMAILQUEUE just before you
invoke qmail-smtpd - that way only it runs with a different
qmail-queue - everything else carries on running the standard qmail-queue.

BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THAT - YOU DON'T WANT AN INFINITE LOOP FORMING!!!


To ensure you keep an eye on Emails that fail due to the STDIN/OUT
problem, just run something like the following from crontab once a
day:

find /var/spool/qmailscan/*/new -type f

I find it only catches a couple of my workstations nightly
jobs. Converting them to writing to a file and then sending that file
fixes that problem...


**
Contacting Me
**

This software is released under the GPL as found in the COPYING file
enclosed.

Any Questions etc to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jason Haar 23/Nov/1999




 scan4virus-0.1.tgz


Re: forwarding mails arlready in Maildirs

1999-11-22 Thread Marlon Anthony Abao

does this one-liner handle offsets of MIME-encoded attachments.  its 
actually these attachements that are giving me a headache.

-marlon

At 12:00 AM 11/23/99 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Marlon,
>
>I can't tell you how many times I've had to do:
>
># for i in *; do qmail-inject -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] < $i; done
>
>You should `man qmail-inject` to grok why this works, but it'll get the
>messages all headed to the address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" regardless of
>what's in the header.  Very handy.
>
>The files that are sitting in the Maildir stay there, which is just
>fine with me...because usually my users are going to come back and get
>them later anyway.
>
>Good luck,
>
>-Martin
>
>On 23 Nov, Marlon Anthony Abao wrote:
>   : is there any command-line tool that i can use?  mutt is too 
> interactive for
>   : me.
>   : i was thinking along the lines of processing the entire maildir using a
>   : shell script.
>   :
>   : -marlon
>   :
>   : At 01:21 PM 11/23/99 +0800, Benjamin de los Angeles Jr. wrote:
>   :
>   : >Use Mutt, it supports Maildir too.
>   : >
>   : >On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Marlon Anthony Abao wrote:
>   : >
>   : > > guys,
>   : > >
>   : > > is there a way for get the existing mails in the users' Maildirs and
>   : > > forward them to a remote address?
>   : > >
>   : > > i have a client who has a lot of mails and who wants to have these
>   : > > forwarded to his other ISP.  i can forward any incoming mails but 
> how do i
>   : > > forward his existing mails?  especially those w/ encoded attachments
>   : > (sigh...).
>   : > >
>   : > > thanks.
>   : > >
>   : > > -marlon
>   : > >
>   :
>
>--
>Martin A. Brown --- SecurePipe Communications --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: forwarding mails arlready in Maildirs

1999-11-22 Thread mabrown

Marlon,

I can't tell you how many times I've had to do:

# for i in *; do qmail-inject -a [EMAIL PROTECTED] < $i; done

You should `man qmail-inject` to grok why this works, but it'll get the
messages all headed to the address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" regardless of
what's in the header.  Very handy.

The files that are sitting in the Maildir stay there, which is just
fine with me...because usually my users are going to come back and get
them later anyway.

Good luck,

-Martin

On 23 Nov, Marlon Anthony Abao wrote:
  : is there any command-line tool that i can use?  mutt is too interactive for 
  : me.
  : i was thinking along the lines of processing the entire maildir using a 
  : shell script.
  : 
  : -marlon
  : 
  : At 01:21 PM 11/23/99 +0800, Benjamin de los Angeles Jr. wrote:
  : 
  : >Use Mutt, it supports Maildir too.
  : >
  : >On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Marlon Anthony Abao wrote:
  : >
  : > > guys,
  : > >
  : > > is there a way for get the existing mails in the users' Maildirs and
  : > > forward them to a remote address?
  : > >
  : > > i have a client who has a lot of mails and who wants to have these
  : > > forwarded to his other ISP.  i can forward any incoming mails but how do i
  : > > forward his existing mails?  especially those w/ encoded attachments 
  : > (sigh...).
  : > >
  : > > thanks.
  : > >
  : > > -marlon
  : > >
  : 

-- 
Martin A. Brown --- SecurePipe Communications --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: forwarding mails arlready in Maildirs

1999-11-22 Thread Andy Bradford

Thus said Marlon Anthony Abao on Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:27:17 +0800:

> is there any command-line tool that i can use?  mutt is too interactive for 
> me.
> i was thinking along the lines of processing the entire maildir using a 
> shell script.
You might have a look at this perl script...  You can tweak it for your 
needs or use it as a model for a new script.
http://www.mail-archive.com/contrib/bounce/
It is actually in another subdirectory, but I trust you will find it. :)
Andy
-- 
+== Andy == TiK: garbaglio ==+
|Linux is about freedom of choice|
+== http://www.xmission.com/~bradipo/ ===+




Re: forwarding mails arlready in Maildirs

1999-11-22 Thread Marlon Anthony Abao

is there any command-line tool that i can use?  mutt is too interactive for 
me.
i was thinking along the lines of processing the entire maildir using a 
shell script.

-marlon

At 01:21 PM 11/23/99 +0800, Benjamin de los Angeles Jr. wrote:

>Use Mutt, it supports Maildir too.
>
>On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Marlon Anthony Abao wrote:
>
> > guys,
> >
> > is there a way for get the existing mails in the users' Maildirs and
> > forward them to a remote address?
> >
> > i have a client who has a lot of mails and who wants to have these
> > forwarded to his other ISP.  i can forward any incoming mails but how do i
> > forward his existing mails?  especially those w/ encoded attachments 
> (sigh...).
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > -marlon
> >



Re: forwarding mails arlready in Maildirs

1999-11-22 Thread Benjamin de los Angeles Jr.


Use Mutt, it supports Maildir too.

On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Marlon Anthony Abao wrote:

> guys,
> 
> is there a way for get the existing mails in the users' Maildirs and 
> forward them to a remote address?
> 
> i have a client who has a lot of mails and who wants to have these 
> forwarded to his other ISP.  i can forward any incoming mails but how do i 
> forward his existing mails?  especially those w/ encoded attachments (sigh...).
> 
> thanks.
> 
> -marlon
> 



Help! I am still a open relay!!

1999-11-22 Thread Michael Boman

I have been following the instructions in
http://qmail-docs.surfdirect.com.au/docs/qmail-antirelay.html but it seems
like I am still an open relay! What is wrong?!

What I want to do is allow any user on my C-net / LAN to send mail thru the
SMTP server without any limitations, and the world only send/recive mails
either to or from a @company address.

LOCALHOST: can send as who-ever@what-ever to anyone@anyhost
LAN: can send as who-ever@what-ever to anyone@anyhost
OUR C-NET: can send as who-ever@what-ever to anyone@anyhost
WORLD: can send as user@company to anyone@anyhost

Best regards,
Michael Boman

PS
The files:

# cat /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
intsys.wizoffice.com
intsys.wizoffice.com.sg
localhost
webmail.intsys.wizoffice.com
webmail.intsys.wizoffice.com.sg
webmail.wizoffice.com
webmail.wizoffice.com.sg
wizoffice.com
wizoffice.com.sg

# cat /etc/tcp.smtp
192.168.2.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
10.1.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
203.117.18.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
:allow


I made the /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb file using following command:

# cat /etc/tcp.smtp | tcprules /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb ~/tcp.smtp.tmp


I am running tcpserver with following syntrax:

tcpserver -v -H -R -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c 100 -u 1001 -g 101 0 smtp
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 &

DS

--
Michael Boman, Systems Engineer
WizOffice.Com Pte Ltd - 16 Tannery Lane, #06-00
Crystal Time Building, Singapore. 347778
Your Online Office Wizard - http://www.wizoffice.com/




forwarding mails arlready in Maildirs

1999-11-22 Thread Marlon Anthony Abao

guys,

is there a way for get the existing mails in the users' Maildirs and 
forward them to a remote address?

i have a client who has a lot of mails and who wants to have these 
forwarded to his other ISP.  i can forward any incoming mails but how do i 
forward his existing mails?  especially those w/ encoded attachments (sigh...).

thanks.

-marlon



Re: disk mirroring

1999-11-22 Thread John White

On Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 03:47:47PM -0800, Racer X wrote:
> read the message again, specifically the part about "non-volatile."

Oh right.  How he spelled it.
 
> hardware raid is a different beast entirely, particularly when you're
> talking about stuff that has battery backed caches.  i still don't know that
> it would be a win for qmail unless you had a LARGE queue with lots of large
> messages.
 
HW RAID 1+0 is generally a win -because- you don't need a lot
of the space.

Lop off a 2GB LUN for the qmail queue.
Oh, your external firewall needs a high-performance qmail-queue too?
There goes another 2GB LUN.  That's right: EXTERNAL HW RAID generally
can be configured for multiple hosts.
Use the rest as protected mailbox storage or generic "network attached
storage".
Enjoy the praise you get for the high i/o performance.

John 



Re: disk mirroring

1999-11-22 Thread John White

On Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 02:04:50AM +, Florian G. Pflug wrote:
> > Or perhaps you don't know?  HW RAID controllers can come with non-volitile
> > RAM caches.  When part of this cache is in "writeback" mode, scsi write 
> > commands are put in the cache, and the controller tells the OS that the
> > command has been completed.  Then the writes are committed to hard drive
> > (which have their own caches).  Thus, multiple small-block writes followed
> > by fsync's should finish much quicker on a HW RAID with writeback cache.
> > 
> > If you're relying on OS RAM to do the same thing for a filesystem, then
> > the fsync will put an end to that.
> 
> All this would make hw-cach *forbidden* for qmail queue dir, since then it
> is *not* guaranteed, that what is synced is writted on disk and will
> survive a power loss

Not true.  It's important to have a NVRAM cache;  NV as in non-volitile
to survive a power outage.
 
> Anyway, what is noone mentioning raid 5? I just played with it under linux
> (software raid) until now - but it seems quite fast.

RAID 5 write performance is either as bad or worse than RAID 1.

John



Re: Need advice...

1999-11-22 Thread m

Barton,

I won't take a lot of time to explain this, as this site does a good
job:

http://www.i2k.net/~dougvw/mailqueue.html

Try it out, and let the list know if you have any troubles or further
questions.

-Martin


On 22 Nov, Barton Hodges wrote:
  : Hi,
  : 
  : I want to setup a server to dial into an ISP, download email 
  : from a single pop account, sort it, and deliver it to the server
  : qmail accounts based upon subject, content, etc.
  : 
  : Is a combination of Fetchmail and Procmail the best way to do this?
  : 
  : Thanks a bunch!
  : 
  : Barton

-- 
Martin A. Brown --- SecurePipe Communications --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: disk mirroring

1999-11-22 Thread Adam D . McKenna

On Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 02:04:50AM +, Florian G. Pflug wrote:
> > I don't really mean to be a hardass here, but you need to know about 
> > how the qmail queue works.  You have the qmail source right?  Included
> > with that source is an "INTERNALS" document which describes how the
> > queue works.  With qmail's insistance on fsync'ing, you can see how
> > a writeback cache on the HW RAID controller can help.
> > 
> > Or perhaps you don't know?  HW RAID controllers can come with non-volitile
> > RAM caches.  When part of this cache is in "writeback" mode, scsi write 
> > commands are put in the cache, and the controller tells the OS that the
> > command has been completed.  Then the writes are committed to hard drive
> > (which have their own caches).  Thus, multiple small-block writes followed
> > by fsync's should finish much quicker on a HW RAID with writeback cache.
> > 
> > If you're relying on OS RAM to do the same thing for a filesystem, then
> > the fsync will put an end to that.
> 
> All this would make hw-cach *forbidden* for qmail queue dir, since then it
> is *not* guaranteed, that what is synced is writted on disk and will
> survive a power loss

It depends on your raid card.  Some cards/systems battery back-up their cache 
so that it is not lost in the event of a power failure.

> Anyway, what is noone mentioning raid 5? I just played with it under linux
> (software raid) until now - but it seems quite fast.

What may seem fast to you could be nothing compared to the numbers people are
looking for in large environments.

--Adam

> 
> Greetings, Florian Pflug
> 



Re: disk mirroring

1999-11-22 Thread Racer X

read the message again, specifically the part about "non-volatile."

this is starting to get pretty far off topic for this list, but i'll offer a
couple of observations:

software raid is pretty much by definition slower than writing straight to
disk for a single block at a time, because you still have to write the same
data out but you also have to do the bookkeeping involved.  as you start to
write multiple blocks, you can start to see improved performance as you get
rid of a single bottleneck, but at the low end it's a waste.

since we're talking about the qmail queue dir here, software raid is pretty
silly for the queue dir.  messages tend to be small - on our isp mail
servers, something like 70-80% of all messages are less than 10k.  software
raid is useful to lump multiple identical disks into a single large store
that spreads the load evenly across spindles, but it's really more of an
administrative enhancement than a performance enhancement.  we use sw raid
for the actual mail spool storage, and local uw scsi disk for the queues.

hardware raid is a different beast entirely, particularly when you're
talking about stuff that has battery backed caches.  i still don't know that
it would be a win for qmail unless you had a LARGE queue with lots of large
messages.

shag
=
Judd Bourgeois|   CNM Network  +1 (805) 520-7170
Software Architect|   1900 Los Angeles Avenue, 2nd Floor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |   Simi Valley, CA 93065

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

- Original Message -
From: Florian G. Pflug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: John White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; qmail mailing list
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Mon 22 Nov 1999 18.04
Subject: Re: disk mirroring


> > I don't really mean to be a hardass here, but you need to know about
> > how the qmail queue works.  You have the qmail source right?  Included
> > with that source is an "INTERNALS" document which describes how the
> > queue works.  With qmail's insistance on fsync'ing, you can see how
> > a writeback cache on the HW RAID controller can help.
> >
> > Or perhaps you don't know?  HW RAID controllers can come with
non-volitile
> > RAM caches.  When part of this cache is in "writeback" mode, scsi write
> > commands are put in the cache, and the controller tells the OS that the
> > command has been completed.  Then the writes are committed to hard drive
> > (which have their own caches).  Thus, multiple small-block writes
followed
> > by fsync's should finish much quicker on a HW RAID with writeback cache.
> >
> > If you're relying on OS RAM to do the same thing for a filesystem, then
> > the fsync will put an end to that.
>
> All this would make hw-cach *forbidden* for qmail queue dir, since then it
> is *not* guaranteed, that what is synced is writted on disk and will
> survive a power loss
>
> Anyway, what is noone mentioning raid 5? I just played with it under linux
> (software raid) until now - but it seems quite fast.
>
> Greetings, Florian Pflug
>



Remote users not able to send messages anywhere but here

1999-11-22 Thread Cameron Arnott

Hi,
I need some help.. I have qmail setup with tcpserver and procmail
with mail going successfully to /var/spool/mail/

I can send messages anywhere from the local machine and on the local
network.
However I wish to provide a service where i can have members access
their email from their existing isp setup..
heres a map of how i want it to work

member calls their isp
member checks for email on their email account here
member replys to email to external email source   --- this isn't
working. why?


why is there different rules.. how do i fix the situation.. its bloomin
frustrating i thought i had it all working.. everyone can get their
mail.. but they can't send it to external sites but i can send from here
to where they are trying to send it to..

Please help me



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Need advice...

1999-11-22 Thread Barton Hodges

Hi,

I want to setup a server to dial into an ISP, download email 
from a single pop account, sort it, and deliver it to the server
qmail accounts based upon subject, content, etc.

Is a combination of Fetchmail and Procmail the best way to do this?

Thanks a bunch!

Barton



Re: disk mirroring

1999-11-22 Thread Florian G. Pflug

> I don't really mean to be a hardass here, but you need to know about 
> how the qmail queue works.  You have the qmail source right?  Included
> with that source is an "INTERNALS" document which describes how the
> queue works.  With qmail's insistance on fsync'ing, you can see how
> a writeback cache on the HW RAID controller can help.
> 
> Or perhaps you don't know?  HW RAID controllers can come with non-volitile
> RAM caches.  When part of this cache is in "writeback" mode, scsi write 
> commands are put in the cache, and the controller tells the OS that the
> command has been completed.  Then the writes are committed to hard drive
> (which have their own caches).  Thus, multiple small-block writes followed
> by fsync's should finish much quicker on a HW RAID with writeback cache.
> 
> If you're relying on OS RAM to do the same thing for a filesystem, then
> the fsync will put an end to that.

All this would make hw-cach *forbidden* for qmail queue dir, since then it
is *not* guaranteed, that what is synced is writted on disk and will
survive a power loss

Anyway, what is noone mentioning raid 5? I just played with it under linux
(software raid) until now - but it seems quite fast.

Greetings, Florian Pflug



straynewline, patch found.

1999-11-22 Thread Michael Boyiazis

Just in case any of you decides to block those
chattering bare/stray line feed MS SMTP servers
until they are patched and want to give the patch
home in addition to the explanatory link in the bounce
message,

qmail-smtpd.c:void straynewline() { out("451 See
http://pobox.com/~djb/docs/smtplf.html.\r\n"); flush(); _exit(1); }

we decided that the 451 becomes a 551...

here is the link to MS's patch courtesy one of the people
I blocked through tcpserver...

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q224/9/83.ASP

mike.



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Re: Serialmail

1999-11-22 Thread Eric Dahnke


Read the TOISP file.

- Eric

Jose de Leon escribió:
> 
> Would somebody kindly point me to a one page set of instructions on how to
> use SerialMail?  The INSTALL that comes with serialmail simply says:
> 
> 1. make
> 2. make setup check
> 
> Now what am I supposed to do with the 2 files it apparrently creates,
> ./install and ./instcheck?  I can pretty much guess what they do, but I
> don't want to make any assumptions.
> 
> The man pages are nice, but there is no 'guide', nothing that gives a
> general overview on what needs to be done to get a simple serialmail session
> going.
> 
> Much appreciated,
> Jose



Serialmail

1999-11-22 Thread Jose de Leon

Would somebody kindly point me to a one page set of instructions on how to
use SerialMail?  The INSTALL that comes with serialmail simply says:

1. make
2. make setup check

Now what am I supposed to do with the 2 files it apparrently creates,
./install and ./instcheck?  I can pretty much guess what they do, but I
don't want to make any assumptions.

The man pages are nice, but there is no 'guide', nothing that gives a
general overview on what needs to be done to get a simple serialmail session
going.

Much appreciated,
Jose




Re: disk mirroring

1999-11-22 Thread John White

On Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 09:45:52AM +, John P . Looney wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 03:18:37PM -0800, John White mentioned:
> > Slowing down the writes to the queue is a bad thing.  The queue is
> > constantly being sync'ed.
> 
>  But I thought that messages were all stored in separate files/directories.
> With striping, we can get those spread over a load of disks.

I know.  That's why I reccomended RAID 1+0 with writeback cache for sites 
which need queue performance.
 
> > >  If he's using Disksuite, he's getting it free with Solaris. 
> > Actually, DS doesn't come "free" unless you buy the Server edition
> > of Solaris, at a cost differential to the WS edition.
> 
>  And if he's running it as a mail server ... Sun are pretty lenient with
> their workstation/server idea. It's supposed to be at odds with microsoft.
> "Here is your $20,000 workstation. We'll be nice and let you use the Server
> CD for free !"

You don't understand.  If you purchase a WS edition of Solaris, you don't
get Disksuite.

> > >  Hmm. Tell that to Dell. We'ed a few Sun E1s, some with 4TB+ of disks
> > > hanging off them, one domain alone with 1600 live users, all using software
> > > RAID.  Those babies had to have 100% availibility, and a new CPU cost
> > > $16000, so if there were real gains from hardware RAID, we would have used
> > > it. There wasn't any. It was cheaper and faster. 
> > For a RAID 1 qmail queue?  Or some other RAID topology for some other
> > function?
> 
>  All the Sun boxes they have run on software RAID - everything from the
> massive pan-European sales & support databases to the little 12 CPU credit
> card authorisation system.

To clarify, my question was:
"Were any of the boxes you mention using software RAID 1 for a qmail
 queue?"

Not:
"Please mention some applications which these boxes supported."

Waxing nostalgic about software raid in the general case doesn't make
software raid 1 a good choice for /var/qmail/queue.  It's a terrible
choice.

>>> Hardware raid is only of
>>> great benefit for PCs that run NT, or mainframes whose real cost is mips,
>>> so they want to move all processing off the processor. Or people that think
>>> RAID 5 is a good idea :)

>> Not at all.  HW RAID is a good way to cache writes, and maximize
>> CPU cycles.
 
>  How does it cache the writes ? Is this CPU cache, or disk cache. With
> software RAID, aren't you just caching anything you write to the disk array
> anyway ? 

I don't really mean to be a hardass here, but you need to know about 
how the qmail queue works.  You have the qmail source right?  Included
with that source is an "INTERNALS" document which describes how the
queue works.  With qmail's insistance on fsync'ing, you can see how
a writeback cache on the HW RAID controller can help.

Or perhaps you don't know?  HW RAID controllers can come with non-volitile
RAM caches.  When part of this cache is in "writeback" mode, scsi write 
commands are put in the cache, and the controller tells the OS that the
command has been completed.  Then the writes are committed to hard drive
(which have their own caches).  Thus, multiple small-block writes followed
by fsync's should finish much quicker on a HW RAID with writeback cache.

If you're relying on OS RAM to do the same thing for a filesystem, then
the fsync will put an end to that.
 
> > It sounds to me like you're abstracting benefits you've seen on software
> > RAID to the qmail queue in a RAID 1.  That's not a good thing to do, as
> > qmail has a pretty unique I/O signature.
> 
>  More than likely :) No, I was more talking about using RAID1+0, so he'd
> get as much benefit from straight striping as possible.

You mentioned that RAID 1+0 would give the max performance, but advocated
software -mirroring- as ok for the qmail queue.  It isn't.

I agree that RAID 1+0 or 10 gives the best protected performance.
 
John



How to slash off really long body messages when bouncing and/ordouble-bouncing

1999-11-22 Thread Daniel Mattos


Dear qmail friends,

I've looked at all the online documentation I could find but I didn't find
anything related to this.

I am thinking of setting up the policy of slashing off the body of
messages whenever the body is too long for double-bouncing and/or bouncing
messages. Does any one have a reason against that?

I came up with that idea after I noticed 3.5 MB messages double-boucing to
postmaster. after a web-based e-mail service refused to accept a message
sent by one of its users.

Did any in the list addressed this problem? How?

Thanks for all considerations,

daniel 

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.tiii.com
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Re: Outlook 5 and online check

1999-11-22 Thread Russell Nelson

Jon Rust writes:
 > M$ is trying to emulate an IMAP account with this feature called 
 > "online check." It basically checks the email, but just returns the 
 > headers. The user can then decide which emails to download to their 
 > system. With qmail-pop3d, mail is often lost. Anyone know of a work 
 > around?

I haven't seen anyone report this problem yet.  Could you go into more 
details?

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problems with procmail

1999-11-22 Thread Luis Bezerra


Hello everyone,
 
I intalled procmail with maildir and I can't get run normally.
my .qmail file is:
|mailquotacheck
| /var/qmail/bin/preline procmail
 
and my .procmailrc is:
PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
DEFAULT=$HOME/
LOGFILE=/dev/null
SHELL=/bin/sh
VERBOSE=ON
:0
* ^FROM. *[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/dev/null
anyone help me indicating the error in these files?
thanks in advance
 
--
-
Luís Bezerra de A. Junior
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
SecrelNet Informática LTDA
Fortaleza - Ceará - Brasil
Fone: 021852882090
-
 


AW: Qmail doc central??

1999-11-22 Thread Häffelin Holger

As far as I know, there's no one to manage the whole documantation. But is
this not a reason to find someone? 
As I'm not at home at the moment (I'm away for an exercise term till feb
2000) I could not do this. But after feb 2000 ...

CU 
Holger


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Subba Rao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Gesendet am: Montag, 22. November 1999 20:14
> An: Qmail Users
> Betreff: Qmail doc central??
> 
> 
> Is there one person, who is centrally managing the 
> documentation for Qmail?
> If yes, who is this person? I remember seeing someone's name 
> in one link,
> in the documentation section. The Qmail mirror sites do not seem to be
> identical. Some mirror sites have extra documentation links 
> over others.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Subba Rao
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/
> 



Mailbox and atime

1999-11-22 Thread Phil Howard

I've found a small glitch between qmail and the way my system is tuned.
The "noatime" feature is enabled for high volume filesystems, which has
improved performance.  Since going with qmail, this has also caused a
problem with detecting new mail.  The "noatime" was not used in /var/spool
and I'd like to leave it turned on in /home.  But obviously, it is needed
wherever the mailbox files actually are.  What is the feasibility of
moving the mailboxes out of the home directory, maybe back to /var/spool,
and just having a symlink in the home directory pointing to where the
mail really goes?  Would qmail have a problem with this for mailbox format?
Would it be better to use .qmail files to point there instead?  Is there
a way to do this in the default specification so the path is formed in a
way unrelated to the home directory, but formed from the username?
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Qmail doc central??

1999-11-22 Thread Subba Rao


Is there one person, who is centrally managing the documentation for Qmail?
If yes, who is this person? I remember seeing someone's name in one link,
in the documentation section. The Qmail mirror sites do not seem to be
identical. Some mirror sites have extra documentation links over others.

Thank you.

Subba Rao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/



AW: dot file question

1999-11-22 Thread Häffelin Holger

You could go a much easier way by using control/smtproutes if you tell your
new server to accept mails for mywebmail.com (if its also Qmail just put it
in your locals or virtualdomains and rcpthosts). Here you tell your QMail to
send all messages received for mywebmail.com to mywebmail.newprovider.com by
putting a 

mywebmail.com:new.mail.server

or 

mywebmail.com:[IP of new server] 

into control/smtproutes. Then give qmail-send a HUP and all mails are
immediately redirected. 
If this is not possible you put .qmail-default file in the directory mail
for mywebmail.com get delivered. Then you put ¦forward
$[EMAIL PROTECTED] If this doesn't work, you'll have to
choose another environment variable (depending on your installation). Just
put a ¦ env > ./env.dat in your .qmail-default file as first line.

CU 
Holger


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag
> von Tom Fishwick
> Gesendet am: Montag, 22. November 1999 19:21
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: dot file question 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm moving over a web based mail to another server, before I make the
> change to internic I'd like to forward everything to the new 
> server, so
> I won't have any problem with mail messages in two places, 
> and will only
> have to defer messages for a few minutes while I transfer the mail
> boxes.  
> 
> So, with a dot qmail file in my home directory how would I forward
> everything ? Example:
> 
> say my domain is mywebmail.com, I want to forward everything to
> mywebmail.newprovider.com until the domain actually gets 
> switched.  So I
> need to forward [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> with a dot-qmail file
> 
> Do I do this with VERP(s) ?  I found the explanation in man dot-qmail
> dificult to understand.  If someone could point me to some other
> documentation or give me an example here that would be great, thanks,
> 
> Tom
> 
> -- 
> Tom Fishwick
>  web http://zworg.com
>   e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 



Re: Relaying based on mail size !

1999-11-22 Thread Jon Rust

control/databytes

jon

At 8:20 PM +0330 11/22/99, Seyyed Hamid Reza Hashemi Golpayegani wrote:
>Hi ,
>
>I have installed Redhat 6.1 and Qmail 1.03 on it ! works good :) Wanna have
>some relaying based on message size . For example wanna check messages if
>larger that 5000 KB don't send it to remote host and reject it . How can I
>do that ?
>Any man pages and document are usefull .
>
>Thanx
>Hamid
>Morva.net Admin



AW: Relaying based on mail size !

1999-11-22 Thread Häffelin Holger

See http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html 3.1 
Use the control/databytes file an write in the maximum message size in bytes

CU Holger


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Seyyed Hamid Reza Hashemi Golpayegani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Gesendet am: Montag, 22. November 1999 17:50
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Relaying based on mail size ! 
> 
> Hi ,
> 
> I have installed Redhat 6.1 and Qmail 1.03 on it ! works good 
> :) Wanna have
> some relaying based on message size . For example wanna check 
> messages if
> larger that 5000 KB don't send it to remote host and reject 
> it . How can I
> do that ?
> Any man pages and document are usefull .
> 
> Thanx
> Hamid
> Morva.net Admin
> 



Re: deferral - how long ?

1999-11-22 Thread Bill Parker

At 05:50 PM 11/22/99 +, you wrote:
>On Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 04:48:59PM +, John P. Looney wrote:
>>  How long will an undeliverable mail be deferred, before it's returned to
>> it's sender ? I've seen a few "Delivery deferred" mails in my queue for
>> over a week now...
>
>604800 seconds (a week) or the number of seconds 
>in control/queuelifetime if it exists. 'man qmail-send'
>

I added the value of 3600 to queuelifetime under /var/qmail/control, and stop
and started qmail...this should correct the deferral problem (at least
on my system)...also, what is the best method of making manual pages
visible in qmail, I added MANPATH /var/qmail/man to /etc/man.conf on my
OpenLinux 2.x system...is this ok, or is a better method preferable?

-Bill




dot file question

1999-11-22 Thread Tom Fishwick

Hi,

I'm moving over a web based mail to another server, before I make the
change to internic I'd like to forward everything to the new server, so
I won't have any problem with mail messages in two places, and will only
have to defer messages for a few minutes while I transfer the mail
boxes.  

So, with a dot qmail file in my home directory how would I forward
everything ? Example:

say my domain is mywebmail.com, I want to forward everything to
mywebmail.newprovider.com until the domain actually gets switched.  So I
need to forward [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a dot-qmail file

Do I do this with VERP(s) ?  I found the explanation in man dot-qmail
dificult to understand.  If someone could point me to some other
documentation or give me an example here that would be great, thanks,

Tom

-- 
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 web http://zworg.com
  e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: deferral - how long ?

1999-11-22 Thread James Raftery

On Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 04:48:59PM +, John P. Looney wrote:
>  How long will an undeliverable mail be deferred, before it's returned to
> it's sender ? I've seen a few "Delivery deferred" mails in my queue for
> over a week now...

604800 seconds (a week) or the number of seconds 
in control/queuelifetime if it exists. 'man qmail-send'

james
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Outlook 5 and online check

1999-11-22 Thread Jon Rust

M$ is trying to emulate an IMAP account with this feature called 
"online check." It basically checks the email, but just returns the 
headers. The user can then decide which emails to download to their 
system. With qmail-pop3d, mail is often lost. Anyone know of a work 
around? (Besides not ever using anything made by M$,  which is my 
personal philosophy.) A patch?

Thanks,
jon



RE: Limiting incoming connections

1999-11-22 Thread Steve Kapinos

What do you mean 'when you have qmail installed' ?  Are you switching back
and forth between qmail and another MTA?

Do all your testing using the examples in TEST.deliever  using qmail-inject,
so that any other links to sendmail or the like are not involved.

control/me is only used by qmail to identify what server it thinks its on.
Don't mess with /me except to have it have one entry of the name of the
machine its qmail is on.

control/local and control/rcpthosts is where you will be editing to allow
qmail to handle mail for.

Your mx record shows mail.buyerzone.com as the mailhost for your domain, and
buyerzone.com is another machine.  Assuming you are running on
mail.buyerzone.com and not another machine...

put mail.buyerzone.com in control/me
put mail.buyerzone.com, www.buyerzone.com, and buyerzone.com all in
control/locals and in control/rcpthosts

Do that, then test using the examples in TEST.deliever to addresses both as
local, and with domain names.  All should be treated locally and delievered
local only.  Check your log to see where qmail delievers the mail to.

-Steve

-Original Message-
From: Rohit Khamkar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 12:01 PM
To: Steve Kapinos
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Limiting incoming connections


Thanks Steve on your earlier help.

I have set up qmail on my machine which earlier had sendmail. Now with
sendmail, I can send messages internally to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but when I
have qmail installed I cannot send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I tried
setting up the control/me file with buyerzone.com but that doesnt help
either . I have to have www.buyerzone.com to have qmail working
internally. And then I have to address the mails internally either only
with the logins or [EMAIL PROTECTED]  but not as
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to have qmail working with
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Any help on this ???

Thanks
ROhit





RE: Problems installing the package from moni.msci.memphis.edu

1999-11-22 Thread Steve Kapinos

Not knowing exactly what your setup is.. since even you don't seem to know.

Where is your procmail delievering to?  If you are using qmail-pop3d you
need to use Maildir format.  Does the user have a Maildir created with the
proper permissions in their homedir?

Reading more, you say you used the scripts for procmail as in INSTALL.vsm.

Well, procmail is probably delievering to /var/spool/mail, which is fine, if
thats where your daemons are looking for it.  However, qmail-pop3d looks in
$HOME/Maildir.

You can switch to qpopper or another pop3d if you want to use
/var/spool/mail, but if you want to use qmail's pop3d, you need to use
Maildir format.  Read INSTALL.maildir

-Steve



-Original Message-
From: Diego M. López [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 11:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problems installing the package from moni.msci.memphis.edu
Importance: High


I have been trying to install qmail using procmail and dot forward
configuration. I have followed all the instructions but I'm still having

problems. The qmail daemons are runing as I can see them with the ps ax
command. The problem is that the clients can not get their email. As an
example in the Netscape mail client appears a message like this: "unable

to scan $HOME/Maildir" What I should do? As additional info should be
noted that my system is running with this hardware:

PIII 450 Mhz
256 Mb RAM
8 Gb total HDD

About my software

RedHat 6.0
Kernel 2.2.10
The software contained in the rpm's from moni.msci.memphis.edu  for the
6.0 distribution.
The pop3 daemon contained in that rpms.
I don't have a copy of the rc scripts because I have deinstalled the
packages,  but,  I have copied the scripts from /var/qmail/boot/ and
/var/qmail/defaultdelivery  for procmail vsm and dot forward
configuration to the appropiate places (/var/qmail/ and
/var/qmail/defaultdelivery, respectively). The scripts were used as they

come from the package.


Please send me instructions. I'm turning back to sendmail until you know

what to do.


Thanks
Diego






Re: LWQ translators wanted

1999-11-22 Thread Steve Vertigan

dd wrote:

> > > I'd really like to get some translations going, so if you're
> > > interested, please let me know. I'll help any way I can.
> >
> > I can take the portuguese translation...
>
> errm and i can do my best for a turkish translation...

QMAIL KISS YOU!!11!!

--Steve(sorry couldn't resist)




Re: deferral - how long ?

1999-11-22 Thread John P. Looney

On Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 04:48:59PM +, John P. Looney mentioned:
>  (outbound mail is fine, and breaks if I don't have that line in, as
>  internal hostnames aren't externally resolvable).

 Sorted this problem. Turns out I was reporting the wrong domainname in the
workstations /etc/sendmail.cf - sorry...

Kate

-- 
Microsoft. The best reason in the world to drink beer.
http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~valen



deferral - how long ?

1999-11-22 Thread John P. Looney

 How long will an undeliverable mail be deferred, before it's returned to
it's sender ? I've seen a few "Delivery deferred" mails in my queue for
over a week now...

 Also, if I have my "offical domain name" set to "online.ie" (which isn't a
host, just has an MX record), in an /etc/sendmail.cf (the line Djonline.ie)
on a workstation, why does any mail from that host, that is to be delivered
locally, get refused with an error like:
"Sorry,_I_couldn't_find_any_host_by_that_name." ?

 (outbound mail is fine, and breaks if I don't have that line in, as
internal hostnames aren't externally resolvable).

Kate

-- 
Microsoft. The best reason in the world to drink beer.
http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~valen



Relaying based on mail size !

1999-11-22 Thread Seyyed Hamid Reza Hashemi Golpayegani

Hi ,

I have installed Redhat 6.1 and Qmail 1.03 on it ! works good :) Wanna have
some relaying based on message size . For example wanna check messages if
larger that 5000 KB don't send it to remote host and reject it . How can I
do that ?
Any man pages and document are usefull .

Thanx
Hamid
Morva.net Admin



RE: Can anyone help with selective relaying/rcpthosts problem?

1999-11-22 Thread Rob Havens

I am a dolt.  On the drive home Friday night, I realized that rblsmtpd was 
running looking for its own tcprules.cdb file.  You nailed it Steve. Thanks to 
you and Holger Häffelin for responding.

-Rob Havens

On 22 Nov 99, at 8:25, Steve Kapinos wrote:

> If your tcprulescheck does show he gets the relayclient variable, then one
> might assume you are not launching smtpd and tcpserver correctly.
> 
> Paste the init script you are using to wrap smtpd with tcpserver.
> 
> -Steve
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Havens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 5:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Can anyone help with selective relaying/rcpthosts problem?
> 
> 
> 1. Have testuser who has dialup account at provider.net, gets dynamic IP
> address when dials in.
> 2. Our company has domain newman.com. Want testuser to be able to
> send/receive mail using our Linux 2.2.5-15 server (RedHat6.0) and
> qmail1.03 running under tcpserver (uspci.tcp).
> 3. Set up user account "outofstate" on newman mail server. Installed
> Russell Nelson's checkpassword patch and Mirko Zeibig's script.
> 4. outofstate dials up to provider.net, uses pop3 to retrieve his
> mail...works.
> 5. tcprulescheck qmail-smtpd.cdb (hisIPaddress) reports:
> rule (hisIPaddress):
> set environment variable RELAYCLIENT=
> allow connection
> 6. outofstate sends message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 7. outofstate sends message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Outlook express reports:
> The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected
> by
> the server.  The rejected email address was [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject 'test 34th time', Account 'Testmail', Server:
> 'mailserver.newman.com', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '553 sorry,
> that domain isn't in my list of allowed
> rcpthosts (#5.7.1)',Port 25, Secure (SSL);No, Server Error:553,Error
> Number
> 0x800CCC79
> 8. Any and all other users with newman.com subnet IP addresses can send
> mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ok.  Other entries in qmail-smtpd.cdb
> are:
> 127.0.0.1:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> 9.9.9.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" (for our subnet IP address range)
> 
> Help please.  Any suggestions?
> 
> 




Problems installing the package from moni.msci.memphis.edu

1999-11-22 Thread Diego M. López

I have been trying to install qmail using procmail and dot forward
configuration. I have followed all the instructions but I'm still having

problems. The qmail daemons are runing as I can see them with the ps ax
command. The problem is that the clients can not get their email. As an
example in the Netscape mail client appears a message like this: "unable

to scan $HOME/Maildir" What I should do? As additional info should be
noted that my system is running with this hardware:

PIII 450 Mhz
256 Mb RAM
8 Gb total HDD

About my software

RedHat 6.0
Kernel 2.2.10
The software contained in the rpm's from moni.msci.memphis.edu  for the
6.0 distribution.
The pop3 daemon contained in that rpms.
I don't have a copy of the rc scripts because I have deinstalled the
packages,  but,  I have copied the scripts from /var/qmail/boot/ and
/var/qmail/defaultdelivery  for procmail vsm and dot forward
configuration to the appropiate places (/var/qmail/ and
/var/qmail/defaultdelivery, respectively). The scripts were used as they

come from the package.


Please send me instructions. I'm turning back to sendmail until you know

what to do.


Thanks
Diego





Problems installing the package from moni.msci.memphis.edu

1999-11-22 Thread Diego M. López

I have been trying to install qmail using procmail and dot forward
configuration. I have followed all the instructions but I'm still having
problems. The qmail daemons are runing as I can see them with the ps ax
command. The problem is that the clients can not get their email. As an
example in the Netscape mail client appears a message like this: "unable
to scan $HOME/Maildir" What I should do? As additional info should be
noted that my system is running with this hardware:

PIII 450 Mhz
256 Mb RAM
8 Gb total HDD

About my software

RedHat 6.0
Kernel 2.2.10
The software contained in the rpm's from moni.msci.memphis.edu  for the
6.0 distribution.
The pop3 daemon contained in that rpms.
I don't have a copy of the rc scripts because I have deinstalled the
packages,  but,  I have copied the scripts from /var/qmail/boot/ and
/var/qmail/defaultdelivery  for procmail vsm and dot forward
configuration to the appropiate places (/var/qmail/ and
/var/qmail/defaultdelivery, respectively). The scripts were used as they
come from the package.


Please send me instructions. I'm turning back to sendmail until you know
what to do.


Thanks
Diego



Re: New Config. problem

1999-11-22 Thread Dave Sill

Rohit Khamkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I have set up qmail on my machine which earlier had sendmail. Now with
>sendmail, I can send messages internally to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but when I
>have qmail installed I cannot send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I tried
>setting up the control/me file with buyerzone.com but that doesnt help
>either . I have to have www.buyerzone.com to have qmail working
>internally. And then I have to address the mails internally either only
>with the logins or [EMAIL PROTECTED]  but not as
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to have qmail working with
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] Any help on this ???

Please stop posting this. This is the third copy you've sent to the
list. Steve Kapinos has already replied, but in case you missed it,
try adding "buyerzone.com" to control/locals and control/rcphosts.

-Dave



AW: Limiting incoming connections

1999-11-22 Thread Häffelin Holger

Try putting buyerzone.com into control/locals . This should force Qmail to
handle those mails to *@buyerzone.com as local an therefore handle your
login@buyerzone the same way as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

CU
Holger


> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Rohit Khamkar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Gesendet am: Montag, 22. November 1999 18:01
> An: Steve Kapinos
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Re: Limiting incoming connections
> 
> Thanks Steve on your earlier help.
> 
> I have set up qmail on my machine which earlier had sendmail. Now with
> sendmail, I can send messages internally to 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] but when I
> have qmail installed I cannot send mails to 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I tried
> setting up the control/me file with buyerzone.com but that doesnt help
> either . I have to have www.buyerzone.com to have qmail working
> internally. And then I have to address the mails internally 
> either only
> with the logins or [EMAIL PROTECTED]  but not as
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to have qmail working with
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any help on this ???
> 
> Thanks
> ROhit
> 
> 



New Config. problem

1999-11-22 Thread Rohit Khamkar

I have set up qmail on my machine which earlier had sendmail. Now with
sendmail, I can send messages internally to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but when I
have qmail installed I cannot send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I tried
setting up the control/me file with buyerzone.com but that doesnt help
either . I have to have www.buyerzone.com to have qmail working
internally. And then I have to address the mails internally either only
with the logins or [EMAIL PROTECTED]  but not as
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to have qmail working with
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Any help on this ???

Thanks
ROhit









Re: Limiting incoming connections

1999-11-22 Thread Rohit Khamkar

Thanks Steve on your earlier help.

I have set up qmail on my machine which earlier had sendmail. Now with
sendmail, I can send messages internally to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but when I
have qmail installed I cannot send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I tried
setting up the control/me file with buyerzone.com but that doesnt help
either . I have to have www.buyerzone.com to have qmail working
internally. And then I have to address the mails internally either only
with the logins or [EMAIL PROTECTED]  but not as
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to have qmail working with
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Any help on this ???

Thanks
ROhit




Re: Sending Through other Mail Server !

1999-11-22 Thread cmikk


On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 02:00:54 +0330 , "Seyyed Hamid Reza Hashemi Golpayegani" writes:
> I have installed qmail 1.03 with Redhat Linux ! it is work perefectal .
> Here a little problem . I wanna send my emails through an other mail server
> that provide me to inernet .

Put a line of the form

:relay.isp.net

in /var/qmail/control/smtproutes.  This routes all remote deliveries through
the relay.isp.net server.

-- 
Chris Mikkelson  | ... a pet peeve of mine is people who directly edit 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | the .cf file instead of using the m4 configuration
 | files ... I treat the .cf file as a binary file
 | - you should too.  --- Eric Allman



RE: Configuration problem

1999-11-22 Thread Steve Kapinos

Do you have your domain names you want to use 'full names' with in
control/locals  ?

Domains listed in locals will be treated as local only, so any mail you
create on the system will not go out smtp, rather be delievered by qmail
internally.

You also have to have the domain names in control/rcpthosts if you want
qmail to accept mail for that domain from smtp.

Sounds like you hosed up the control files to me.

-Original Message-
From: Rohit Khamkar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 10:35 AM
Cc: Qmail-mailing list
Subject: Configuration problem


I have a mail server set on my machine. When I run a ./config , the qmail
script gives a hard error saying it could not find hosts name in canonical
form.  So the next thing I do is so set up the control files manually
and
after which qmail starts working. My mail server host is buyerzone.com but
if
I have this as the line in the control/me file qmail fails to deliver
anything
anywhere. When I make this www.buyerzone.com , only it works. I dont
understand why this is happeneing. Also I can only send mails internally
using
the login ids and not the full addresses. Again this is what is confusing
me.
Any help in this would be helpful.

Thanx
Rohit




Configuration problem

1999-11-22 Thread Rohit Khamkar

I have a mail server set on my machine. When I run a ./config , the qmail
script gives a hard error saying it could not find hosts name in canonical
form.  So the next thing I do is so set up the control files manually and
after which qmail starts working. My mail server host is buyerzone.com but if
I have this as the line in the control/me file qmail fails to deliver anything
anywhere. When I make this www.buyerzone.com , only it works. I dont
understand why this is happeneing. Also I can only send mails internally using
the login ids and not the full addresses. Again this is what is confusing me.
Any help in this would be helpful.

Thanx
Rohit



Re: MX question related to diff. A and MX record

1999-11-22 Thread Russell Nelson

Einar Bordewich writes:
 > : > Back a few years, I know we had a problem related to mail going to the
 > : > webserver instead the mailserver, when the domain was set up with an A
 > : > record that was different than the IP address of the hostname pointed
 > : > to by MX. Does this still count, or is this a solved issue?
 > : 
 > : This was never the case with Qmail.
 > 
 > Is there other mailservers out there, that this is the known case for?

It's quite easy to configure smail so that it sends mail in the wrong
order (where wrong is defined by the RFCs).

-- 
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521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur
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Re: Limiting incoming connections

1999-11-22 Thread Mark Evans

> 
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> 
> --=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF2F60.2C1988A0
> Content-Type: text/plain;
>   charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

If you didn't have your mail software set in "bloat" mode
your (limited) bandwidth would go further :)
> 
> My boss would like me to find out if it is possible
> to limit the number of incoming connections qmail will accept=20
> to a specific number? Bandwidth is a huge issue here and incoming
> smtp connections are sucking a lot of it. Unfortunatly we dont have
> a lot of bucks to upgrade right now.. thus we need to figure out how
> we can control incoming smtp connections.=20

Check out the manual page for tcpserver.

> 
> Any ideas?=20
> 
> Thanks.. Mike
> 
> --=_NextPart_000_0031_01BF2F60.2C1988A0
> Content-Type: text/html;
>   charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> 

-- 
Mark Evans
St. Peter's CofE High School
Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109
Fax: +44 1392 204763



Re: missing mail

1999-11-22 Thread Petr Novotny

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 22 Nov 99, at 14:52, Süddeutsche Krankenversicherung wrote:
> i have made some modification because i want to reject all
> Emails with attachments. See the script below.
> 
> The rejection works fine, the sender gets a daemon-message,
> but Emails without attachments disappears. The mail-log says
> the delivery was successfull.
> 
> Have anyone an idea?

How does your .qmail file look like? Didn't you forget to put the 
delivery instruction like ./Maildir/ _after_ the invocation of the script?

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Version: PGP 6.0.2 -- QDPGP 2.60 
Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html

iQA/AwUBODlby1MwP8g7qbw/EQKSvgCfZFD+2Z68+PpNS9LxdhJJ5w9qtyUAoNWl
mLXXfZEfDpGEF+jEx854ySAj
=uhv3
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Re: MX question related to diff. A and MX record

1999-11-22 Thread Einar Bordewich

: > Back a few years, I know we had a problem related to mail going to the
: > webserver instead the mailserver, when the domain was set up with an A
: > record that was different than the IP address of the hostname pointed
: > to by MX. Does this still count, or is this a solved issue?
: 
: This was never the case with Qmail.

Is there other mailservers out there, that this is the known case for?
--
---
IDG New Media Einar Bordewich
System Manager   Phone: +47 2205 3034
E-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---

- Original Message - 
From: Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Qmail-mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: MX question related to diff. A and MX record


: On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Einar Bordewich wrote:
: 
: > Does a mailserver always look at the MX record, and not the A record
: > for a domain?
: 
: Yes.
: 
: > Back a few years, I know we had a problem related to mail going to the
: > webserver instead the mailserver, when the domain was set up with an A
: > record that was different than the IP address of the hostname pointed
: > to by MX. Does this still count, or is this a solved issue?
: 
: This was never the case with Qmail.
: 
: 
: --
: Sam
: 
: 



missing mail

1999-11-22 Thread Süddeutsche Krankenversicherung

Hi,

by using the script  - checkattach -  from Noel G. Mistula
to reject Emails with attachments i have a problem.

i have made some modification because i want to reject all
Emails with attachments. See the script below.

The rejection works fine, the sender gets a daemon-message,
but Emails without attachments disappears. The mail-log says
the delivery was successfull.

Have anyone an idea?

Thanks for help

Uli Butzer


#!/bin/bash
VV2=`grep "filename="|gawk '{split($ATTACHTYPE, results, ".");
r=toupper(results[2]); print r}' | cut -c -3`
if test -z $VV2
then
  #echo "leer"
  exit 0
else
  echo "Mails with attachment"
  exit 100
fi
exit 0






Re: what _should_ I call our internal domain?

1999-11-22 Thread olli

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Robbie Walker wrote:
> Here's  related question. What should internal domains be called and how
> are they setup in DNS? I've always used a non-existant domain name that I
> made up, but I know this is wrong. What's the correct solution?
AFAIK there is NO rule forchoosing those domain names. Only one is that
this domain shouldn't already resolve.

Bye.Olli.
//System administrator of "Russia Young" internet group.

Any info around "Russia Young" & Boris Nemtsov:
http://www.rosmol.ru , http://www.nemtsov.ru , http://www.boris.nemtsov.ru



MX question related to diff. A and MX record

1999-11-22 Thread Einar Bordewich

Does a mailserver always look at the MX record, and not the A record for a domain?
Back a few years, I know we had a problem related to mail going to the webserver 
instead the mailserver, when the domain was set up with an A record that was different 
than the IP address of the hostname pointed to by MX. Does this still count, or is 
this a solved issue?

ex. zone config where a http request will go to test.com/192.168.1.1 and mail to 
test.com will go to mail.test.com/10.10.10.10

; Zone file for: test.com
@   IN  SOA ns.domain.com. hostmaster.domain.com. (
1999112214  ; serial number
28800   ; refresh
7200; retry
604800  ; expire
86400 ) ; minimum TTL
; NS records
@   IN  NS  ns.domain.com.
@   IN  NS  ns1.domain.com.
@   IN  NS  nn.domain.net.
; MX records
@   IN  MX  10  mail.test.com.
@   IN  MX  20  mail1.domain.com.
; Zone records
@   IN  A   192.168.1.1 
mailIN  A   10.10.10.10
www   IN  CNAME   www.domain.com.

BTW: test.com and domain.com in this example has nothing to do with the real domains 
out there.
--
---
IDG New Media Einar Bordewich
System Manager   Phone: +47 2205 3034
E-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---




qmail Digest 22 Nov 1999 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 827

1999-11-22 Thread qmail-digest-help


qmail Digest 22 Nov 1999 11:00:01 - Issue 827

Topics (messages 33413 through 33420):

Re: sniffing / crypto: Cobain quote
33413 by: dd
33418 by: secu

Sending Through other Mail Server !
33414 by: Seyyed Hamid Reza Hashemi Golpayegani
33417 by: Magnus Bodin

Statitics
33415 by: Michael Boman
33416 by: Magnus Bodin

dns and MX problem
33419 by: Marcin Chojnowski
33420 by: Häffelin Holger

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> Def Leppard isn't known for the magnitude of their intellect.
> 
> Robbie " I want my MTV " Walker

i don't like Def Leppard too <:}
and the last one's from Dire Straits. imho it has a nice video.

>> BTW, Cobain stole that quote.  I'll leave it as an exercise for the
>> reader to figure out from who.

>In fact i don't give a *tear* about who said that first.
>Bilions of ppl everyday say "Hi and Hello" but i'm still saying that
>too... who said that first ? Adam ? ;)

hehe, good answer ;]]


love, peace and stuff,
dd






On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, dd wrote:

> >> BTW, Cobain stole that quote.  I'll leave it as an exercise for the
> >> reader to figure out from who.

I don't think it's 'stealing' to make reference to something.. Anyway, it
was obviously Neil Young.

-secu





Hi ,

I have installed qmail 1.03 with Redhat Linux ! it is work perefectal .
Here a little problem . I wanna send my emails through an other mail server
that provide me to inernet .
For example I have a server with IP 195.200.226.147 that connected via a
leased line to server 195.200.226.145 . So I wanna deliver my e-mail that
send from 195.200.226.147 through 195.200.226.145 not directly to distnation
server . So How can I set it ?

Thanx
Hamid





On Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 02:00:54AM +0330, Seyyed Hamid Reza Hashemi Golpayegani wrote:
> Hi ,
> 
> I have installed qmail 1.03 with Redhat Linux ! it is work perefectal .
> Here a little problem . I wanna send my emails through an other mail server
> that provide me to inernet .
> For example I have a server with IP 195.200.226.147 that connected via a
> leased line to server 195.200.226.145 . So I wanna deliver my e-mail that
> send from 195.200.226.147 through 195.200.226.145 not directly to distnation
> server . So How can I set it ?

Use smtproutes. Like this:

echo ":195.200.226.145" >/var/qmail/control/smtproutes

/magnus




How can I get statitics over how many mails that has been sent/recived over
a day/week/month/year?

Best regards
Michael Boman

--
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WizOffice.Com Pte Ltd - 16 Tannery Lane, #06-00
Crystal Time Building, Singapore. 347778
Your Online Office Wizard - http://www.wizoffice.com/



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On Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 10:39:05AM +0800, Michael Boman wrote:
> How can I get statitics over how many mails that has been sent/recived over
> a day/week/month/year?

MRTG

http://x42.com/qmail/mrtg/

/magnus




Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

  I'm started using qmail because it's more secure much faster and
  smaller than sendmail. It's very important because i have only
  petnium 100 machine.

  Ok qmail i running ok for my domain.

  I have second computer it's connected to network as well but it has
  disabled port 25 for WAN this port is active only for MAN.

  Both computers are  in the MAN network so they can mail each other
  but only this first can get mail from entire internet.

  So i decided to be MX for the second computer (because it can't get
  mail [port 25 disabled for outside of MAN])

  So put at this second computer DNS after NS:

 IN NS firstnameserver.
 IN NS secondnameserver.
 MX 0 firstcomputer.

   host  IN A   ip.ip.ip.ip

   I put nothing into DNS of firstcomputer

   After configuring qmail i get:

the message is resend firstcomputer <-> secondcomputer and then i get
error:
  
554 Too many hops 28 (25 max)

can anybody tell me what exacly should be in DNS in both computer and
how qmail should be configured.

I need exaple to get what did I wrong or maybe you can tell me whats
wrong.

Please send me replies to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

thx

Best regards,
 Marcin Chojnowski






Hi!
>   I have second computer it's connected to network as well but it has
>   disabled port 25 for WAN this port is active only for MAN.
> 
>   Both computers are  in the MAN network so they can mail each other
>   but only this fi

AW: dns and MX problem

1999-11-22 Thread Häffelin Holger

Hi!
>   I have second computer it's connected to network as well but it has
>   disabled port 25 for WAN this port is active only for MAN.
> 
>   Both computers are  in the MAN network so they can mail each other
>   but only this first can get mail from entire internet.
> 
>   So i decided to be MX for the second computer (because it can't get
>   mail [port 25 disabled for outside of MAN])
> 
>   So put at this second computer DNS after NS:
> 
>  IN NS firstnameserver.
>  IN NS secondnameserver.
>  MX 0 firstcomputer.
> 
>host  IN A   ip.ip.ip.ip
> 
>I put nothing into DNS of firstcomputer
> 
>After configuring qmail i get:
> 
> the message is resend firstcomputer <-> secondcomputer and then i get
> error:
>   
> 554 Too many hops 28 (25 max)
> 
> can anybody tell me what exacly should be in DNS in both computer and
> how qmail should be configured.
> 
> I need exaple to get what did I wrong or maybe you can tell me whats
> wrong.

I assume you configured the DNS-entry for your firstcomputer and the
MX-entry for secondcomputer such as the whole internet can get an answer. As
you describe that the message bounces between your computers I think you did
it right.
So on your firstcomputer you put in your control/smtproutes something like

domain.on.secondcomputer:secondcomputer

or

domain.on.secondcomputer:[IP of secondcomputer]

This should send all messages for secondcomputer received by firstcomputer
to secondcomputer. So on secondcomputer you have to tell QMail which domains
are to be handled locally. That's the matter of the files control/locals,
control/virtualdomains. You must also put this into control/rcpthosts if you
use it. It's a matter of relaying. 

A good way to let firstcomputer send all mails from secondcomputer to the
internet, is to put in secondcomputers control/smtproutes 

:firstcomputer

This will force secondcomputer to send all mails to firstcomputer and
firstcomputer will send it to the recipient.

I think it should work if you configure it this way. Otherwise it could be a
DNS-problem with resolving of firstcomputer or secondcomputer. If it doesn't
work, show us your configfiles of QMail and DNS. This might help a lot...


CU
Holger



dns and MX problem

1999-11-22 Thread Marcin Chojnowski

Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],

  I'm started using qmail because it's more secure much faster and
  smaller than sendmail. It's very important because i have only
  petnium 100 machine.

  Ok qmail i running ok for my domain.

  I have second computer it's connected to network as well but it has
  disabled port 25 for WAN this port is active only for MAN.

  Both computers are  in the MAN network so they can mail each other
  but only this first can get mail from entire internet.

  So i decided to be MX for the second computer (because it can't get
  mail [port 25 disabled for outside of MAN])

  So put at this second computer DNS after NS:

 IN NS firstnameserver.
 IN NS secondnameserver.
 MX 0 firstcomputer.

   host  IN A   ip.ip.ip.ip

   I put nothing into DNS of firstcomputer

   After configuring qmail i get:

the message is resend firstcomputer <-> secondcomputer and then i get
error:
  
554 Too many hops 28 (25 max)

can anybody tell me what exacly should be in DNS in both computer and
how qmail should be configured.

I need exaple to get what did I wrong or maybe you can tell me whats
wrong.

Please send me replies to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

thx

Best regards,
 Marcin Chojnowski