Re: "unable to locate alias user"

[Matthew Hunter]

On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 06:47:27AM -0100, asantos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Matthew Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Any ideas where to look?
> Check the /var/qmail/users/{assign,cdb} stuff. Maybe someone played with the
> alias.

The users directory is empty, and is empty on another qmail
installation that doesn't have this problem.  

OTOH, the permissions on my passwd file somehow got messed
up.  Nothing else complained, but the problem went away when they
were corrected.

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qmail Digest 2 Dec 2000 11:00:00 -0000 Issue 1201

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qmail Digest 2 Dec 2000 11:00:00 - Issue 1201

Topics (messages 53254 through 53343):

Information!
53254 by: Cleiton L. Siqueira

Re: more than 65535 accounts on one mail server
53255 by: Jenny Holmberg

Re: Minimum OS Requirement to run Qmail
53256 by: Peter Green
53259 by: Robin S. Socha
53261 by: Jamin Collins
53265 by: Wesley Wannemacher
53281 by: Felix von Leitner
53282 by: Felix von Leitner
53290 by: asantos
53299 by: Felix von Leitner
53305 by: Sean Truman
53327 by: Andrew Buenaventura
53334 by: asantos

Re: lets get back to the purpose of the mailing list
53257 by: Al Lipscomb
53258 by: Michael Maier

Re: Internal Spam
53260 by: rmiranda.i9sp.com.br
53280 by: Felix von Leitner

Re: [HELP] Domain in Sender: is missing
53262 by: Peter Samuel

Re: List Courtesy (was Newbie question)
53263 by: Charles Cazabon
53323 by: Matt Brown
5 by: Scott D. Yelich

Re: [SOLUTION] Re: [HELP] Domain in Sender: is missing
53264 by: Peter Samuel

freebsd+qmail+vpopmail+mysql»·¾³
53266 by: emailsys
53269 by: Milen Petrinski

unsuscribe
53267 by: Angel Krustev

AntiVirus!
53268 by: Visar Emini
53270 by: Eric Garff
53275 by: Robin S. Socha
53283 by: Felix von Leitner
53291 by: Jerry Keene
53301 by: Felix von Leitner
53302 by: Lipscomb, Al
53304 by: Markus Stumpf
53309 by: Lipscomb, Al
53324 by: Matt Brown
53326 by: Felix von Leitner
53328 by: cfm.maine.com
53329 by: Matt Brown
53332 by: Al Lipscomb

I'm SO AFRAID!!, NO BODY KNOW RBLSMTPD WORKS
53271 by: ouldm.linuxatbusiness.com
53272 by: David Dyer-Bennet
53273 by: Aaron L. Meehan
53274 by: Henning Brauer
53276 by: Hubbard, David
53342 by: Vincent Schonau

1.04---not
53277 by: Mate Wierdl
53278 by: Mark Delany
53284 by: Felix von Leitner
53288 by: David L. Nicol
53289 by: Mark Delany
53294 by: Lipscomb, Al
53298 by: Felix von Leitner
53306 by: Ian Lance Taylor
53311 by: Mark Delany
53312 by: Mark Delany

Re: Flaming newbie's makes no sense
53279 by: Felix von Leitner

Re: secrets and lies
53285 by: David L. Nicol
53303 by: Ian Lance Taylor

Bye
53286 by: Dave Sill
53295 by: Anton Pirnat
53297 by: Peter Cavender
53314 by: Jon Rust

Re: why didn't it send my msg?
53287 by: QBA
53292 by: QBA
53296 by: Mads E Eilertsen
53300 by: James Browning
53307 by: James Browning
53313 by: QBA
53325 by: Markus Stumpf

IsoQlog 1.3.1 released some Bugs fixed
53293 by: Ismail YENIGUL

feel like flamed or stupified?
53308 by: Mate Wierdl
53310 by: Jamin Collins
53315 by: Robin S. Socha
53316 by: Mate Wierdl

Forwarding
53317 by: Louis Mushandu
53319 by: Greg Owen

***APOLOGY: Please disregard my previous posting ie FORWARDING.** *
53318 by: Louis Mushandu

questions about qmail
53320 by: emailsys
53322 by: Robin S. Socha

Re: qmail startup error --xrealloc: cannot reallocate..
53321 by: Joost van Baal

[OT -- MUA related] Re: feel like flamed or stupified?
53330 by: Louis Theran

EZMLM web archive HELP PLEASE, DESPERATE!!
53331 by: Barry Smoke

"unable to locate alias user"
53335 by: Matthew Hunter
53337 by: Markus Stumpf
53338 by: Matthew Hunter
53339 by: asantos
53340 by: Matthew Hunter

qmail vpopmail - Help on logging remote IP
53336 by: qaz '

qmail with  snmp
53341 by: reach_prashant.zeenext.com

Deleteing mail in queue
53343 by: Dennis

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Hi all,

I have some doubts about qmail-popup. I read the man of qmail-popup
and
I saw that exist some descriptors used by qmail-popup. My doubts are
about it.
Let me see if I figured out what man page says.
Qmail-popup expects descriptor 0 from the network, sent by a client
like a
Outlook or Messenger. This descriptor 0 has the information about
username
and password. After this qmail-popup writes to the network with
descriptor 1
and calls a subprogram (checkpassword) with the same descriptor 0 and 1.
The
second part of explanation I can't understand. Who uses the the
descriptors 2 and 3?
If qmail-popup uses descriptor 0 and 1 to read and write to network
why
are there descriptors 2 an

qmail with snmp

[reach_prashant]

 hello firends 


is it possible to monitor qmails parameters like current queue length
/no of messages in queue etc things with HPopenview,

 i dont think qmail is snmp enabled , but if some one knows some patches
etc , which enables snmp fuctionality in qmail  then please tell me ?

 
   which anti virtus works best with qmail , ( we are planning to setup
seperate incoming and out going mail servers, we will also run anti-virus
software on two saperate boxes i.e one ofr incoming mails and one for out
going mails )  please tell me which anti-virus works best with qmail ,




Thanks & Regards
Prashant  Desai 

Re: I'm SO AFRAID!!, NO BODY KNOW RBLSMTPD WORKS????

[Vincent Schonau]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I'm asking the following several time the following
> questionNO RESPONSE NO RESPONSE.
> Is there is really somebody already using rblsmtpd?

Many qmail users use rblsmtpd.

> I'm running rblsmtpd, according to the response of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  my RBL is working.
> Problem: if any machine in my sub-network (10.1.7.*
> having it's MAC, DNS) bombarding me all messages are delivred to my mail
> server. The sub-network of my mail server is 10.1.6.* with differents
> MAC, DNS, but using the same local router with the first sub-network to
> go internet.

Apparently you have not understood the purpose of RBL and lists like it
(and the purpose of rblsmtpd to use them).

The RBL is a list of IP addresses that belong to known spammers or spam
supporters. RSS is a list of mailservers that are open to relay and have
relayed actual spam. DUL is a list op dialup IP-addresses that should be
sending email through their providers mail server.

What rblsmtpd does with this is to check if $TCPREMOTEIP (the ip address of
the SMTP client connecting to your mailserver) is on the lists you have
configured. If it is, it will not start qmail-smtpd, but instead carry out
a limited SMTP conversation just to (permanently or temporarily) reject
that particular email from that particular host.

This is what rblsmtpd does, and it is all rblsmtpd does. The addresses you
refer to (10.*) are private address space, so these addresses will never
appear on the rbl. In most rblsmtpd configurations, you will have your
local address space excluded from RBL checking.

It appears you think rblsmtpd would help you if a host inside your network
started spamming. It will not.


Vince.

Deleteing mail in queue

[Dennis]

Hi all...

It seems like I have an email that does not want to be delivered.
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] keeps complaining about the host
not being in it's list of rcphosts file tada yada yada

I've looked in the local and remote queue dir's but can't see anything. It
does deliver all other mail to all other hosts (relaying is off of
course)(Nothing in the queue because it's my devel qmail server)

HELP

Re: Deleteing mail in queue

[Jenny Holmberg]

"Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It seems like I have an email that does not want to be delivered.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] keeps complaining about the host
> not being in it's list of rcphosts file tada yada yada
> 
> I've looked in the local and remote queue dir's but can't see anything. It
> does deliver all other mail to all other hosts (relaying is off of
> course)(Nothing in the queue because it's my devel qmail server)

Is it your own host that complains or is it the recipients host? If
all other mail gets delivered, I would assume that the problem is with
the MX for that domain, not with your own server.

> HELP

Had you told us the real address you're trying to reach you would have
gotten much more help. Why are you lying to the people whose help you want?

-- 
"I live in the heart of the machine. We are one." 

Re: qmail with snmp

[Jenny Holmberg]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> is it possible to monitor qmails parameters like current queue length
> /no of messages in queue etc things with HPopenview,
> 
>  i dont think qmail is snmp enabled , but if some one knows some patches
> etc , which enables snmp fuctionality in qmailthen please tell me ?

qmail does not have snmp functionality. You will need to make the snmp
agent on each qmail server check queue length just as it checks free
disk, free swap and whatever other things it checks.

>which anti virtus works best with qmail , ( we are planning to setup
> seperate incoming and out going mail servers, we will also run anti-virus
> software on two saperate boxes i.e one ofr incoming mails and one for out
> going mails )  please tell me which anti-virus works best with qmail ,

This question is at this very moment being discussed in another
thread. I'd suggest you search the mailinglist archives for antivirus;
you will get a lot of hits.

-- 
"I live in the heart of the machine. We are one." 

qmail analog

[Luka Gerzic]

Does anyone have idea where can i find good and detailed 
documentation of qmailanalog?

thank you

Re: Deleteing mail in queue

[Robin S. Socha]

* Dennis  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It seems like I have an email that does not want to be delivered.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] keeps complaining about the
> host not being in it's list of rcphosts file tada yada yada

I find qmHandle quite useful for this purpose:

-- 
Robin S. Socha 

Re: Deleteing mail in queue

[Chris Johnson]

On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 09:01:48AM +1100, Dennis wrote:
> It seems like I have an email that does not want to be delivered.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] keeps complaining about the host
> not being in it's list of rcphosts file tada yada yada
> 
> I've looked in the local and remote queue dir's but can't see anything. It
> does deliver all other mail to all other hosts (relaying is off of
> course)(Nothing in the queue because it's my devel qmail server)
> 
> HELP

Why do you need to remove it from your queue right away? qmail will continue to
attempt delivery until queuelifetime has expired, and then the message will
bounce and qmail will remove it from the queue. My advice would be to wait
patiently until that happens.

Chris

smtp authentication aka rfc-2554

[clemensF]

will there be authentication added to qmails smtp like rfc-2554?

clemens  (pls cc: me)

Duplicate Messages and missing trailers.....

[James Morgenstein]

Has anyone ever had the problem where messages are delivered more than once?
On what appears to be random occasions, messages are delivered twice to my
lists.  I did notice this at one point happening to the qmail and ezmlm
lists.

Also on random occasions, messages distributed to my lists do not appear to
have the designated trailer included in the messages.  Again, no real
pattern to this one either.

I am running the latest version of qmail and ezmlm/ezmlm-idx on Redhat 6.2
with double confirmation disabled (I am doing the double-opt in elsewhere).

Thanks for the help.

James

Re: why didn't it send my msg?

[Henning Brauer]

Am Freitag,  1. Dezember 2000 22:59 schrieb QBA:

> And one more thing - Henning Brauer wrote that using inetd is not to good
> idea. Can anyone tell me why?

Performance increases dramatically when using tcpserver instead of inetd, i 
have also some considerations regarding security against inetd. If you are 
running your private mailserver only, this may be not an issue for you.

Back to your problem: maybe name resolution fails? have you checked your 
tcp.smtp file (oh, it's hosts.allow and hosts.deny with inetd if i'm not 
wrong - sory, never used inetd)?
try if "ping qba.dyndns.org" works from the machine. as telnet localhost 25 
works, qmail-smtpd runs.

>
> QBA

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Re: questions about qmail

[Henning Brauer]

Am Samstag,  2. Dezember 2000 00:35 schrieb emailsys:

> > hi,
>I need your help:
> I had success make freebsd+qmail+vpopmail, 

You are on the wrong list, check the vpopmail-list for help.
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Re: qmail vpopmail - Help on logging remote IP

[Henning Brauer]

Am Samstag,  2. Dezember 2000 06:41 schrieb qaz ':
> Hi,
>
> vpopmail[58140]: vchkpw login [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

That's an issue for the vopomail mailing list.


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Re: qmail with snmp

[Henning Brauer]

Am Samstag,  2. Dezember 2000 06:33 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

>which anti virtus works best with qmail

How many seconds do you spent on qmail.org ? ;-))
The available packages are listed there.

>
> Thanks & Regards
> Prashant  Desai

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[Boris Wattrelos]

Re: Minimum OS Requirement to run Qmail

[Greg Cope]

Felix von Leitner wrote:
> 
> Thus spake asantos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > I find MySQL to be reliable and stable.
> 
> Good luck to you, then.
> You will need it.

You may be wishing alot of people luck as I've used it fir 18 months
with no problems 

> 
> > I only keep logs for 6 months, so in
> > the last 6 months I've had MySQL 3.22.23 running for vpopmail-3.4.11-2 over
> > qmail-1.03+ezmlm-0.53, managing more than 260 virtual domains (about 500
> > Maildirs, many of which are "catch-all" accounts for a single domain), with
> > a overall trafic of more than 85000 messages a month, of which roughly 90%
> > are incoming. Not a single failure in the above software. That's on Linux
> > 2.2.14 SMP.
> 
> > Is this the cue for "profile, don't speculate"?
> 
> If your servers never crash and you never have unexpected hardware
> failures, mysql may be for you.
> 
> Mysql users are consistently being bitten by data loss when one of their
> servers crashes.  Mysql is notorious for being "SQL for kids", i.e. fine
> for playing around but not for production use.  Use an SQL database that
> offers transactional integrity instead.

I wont ask why 

Why the negative attitude, many people use MySQL with qmail / vpopmail
combo with very few problems.

Please, suggest idea's, based on facts, without hersay and insults. 
Otherwise you just appear as a ranter with a chip on his / her shoulder.

Greg

> 
> Mysql recently added transactional integrity by integrating Berkeley DB,
> which is the single database that caused the most data loss on all of my
> machines combined.  I would never use anything relying on Berkeley DB
> ever again.  You just need to look at their source code to see what I
> mean.
> 
> But in the end, the choice is yours.  But don't whine when you use Mysql
> and lose all your data eventually.  Keep good and current backups.  If
> your data are read-only, then Mysql may even be a prudent choice.
> 
> Felix

Re: Minimum OS Requirement to run Qmail

[Felix von Leitner]

Thus spake Andrew Buenaventura ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Thank you very much for your very polite reply.  I have been a Windows user
> for the past 6 years and an Exchange admin for 3 years.  The reason why I am
> planning to migrate to linux is because it is free, very stable, and most
> importantly, lists/communities (i.e. gurus like you) like this exists to
> help newbies like me. 

> Since you are very knowledgeable with MTAs/Qmail, please feel free to block
> all postings coming from me so as not to make your bad day even worse with
> my very basic qustions.  

You miss the point, Andrew.

People like you install Linux and qmail all over the world.
They insert the CD and follow the newbie instructions in the manual and
leave a ton of security holes wide open.

Then, hackers break into their machines and the poor admins don't even
know what hit them and claim Linux is insecure.  Or, even better, they
remember the only software they installed was qmail, so they say that
qmail is insecure.

And in many cases, those hacked Linux boxes are used as relay for
distributed denial of service attacks.

Thus, you are not only a threat to your own data and users, you are a
threat to the whole Internet.  Unless you let someone do the
installation for you who knows what he is doing.

If you want to install qmail (or any other MTA) on a server with an
operating system you are not familiar with, then spend a few months
becoming familiar with it.  This is not like a vacuum that you plug in
and it works.  This is more like a Boeing 747 where some helpful
salesguy has hidden all those confusing pilot knobs behind a friendly
wizard to increase sales.

Felix

Re: Minimum OS Requirement to run Qmail

[Felix von Leitner]

Thus spake asantos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Which just goes to show that you don't know what you're talking about. The
> architecture that I described in the previous message does not require
> transactions (nor the code bloat that cames with support for it). It's a
> single, non relational, lookup:

> select pw_name, pw_passwd, pw_uid from vpopmail where pw_name='abcdef'
> and pw_domain='ghijk.com';

> The (infrequent) updates to the database occur when a user is added or a
> password is changed, and even then its a single row update. Transactional ou
> relational integrity are not needed.

> That being said, I encouraje you to thing about the nature and filosophy of
> qmail: simple modules, interconnected, each doing its part of the work. Why
> in hell would I need Oracle or Sybase or whatever when what I need is a
> simple lookup and a modicum of scaling capability?

For this setup, using mysql is even more stupid than in general.
mysql adds tons of unnecessary complexity to the system and wastes system
resources.

Felix

Qmailadmin

[Amar]

Hey,
when i added a pop acc via qmailadmin,
it accepted it 
but, when i do try to receive mail 
it keeps prompting me for the password again and again
well..
i have added the domain though 

Regards,
Rick

Re: Qmailadmin

[Peter Green]

* Amar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001202 14:02]:
> Hey,
> when i added a pop acc via qmailadmin,

This question belongs on the qmailadmin mailing list. Send e-mail to
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to subscribe.

/pg
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Re: Minimum OS Requirement to run Qmail

[asantos]

From: Felix von Leitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>For this setup, using mysql is even more stupid than in general.
>mysql adds tons of unnecessary complexity to the system and wastes system
>resources.
>


Don't whine. Be consistent. Grow up. Have your mama spank you, it's good for
the soul (tough *you* might like it). Oh, and get an education: respect your
elders.

Complexity is in the eye of the beholder. Why should I worry about system
resources when the system load doesn't go above 5% ? And I monitor it, of
course, I don't just throw crap in the air as you do.

Armando

Re: Minimum OS Requirement to run Qmail

[Felix von Leitner]

Thus spake asantos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> >For this setup, using mysql is even more stupid than in general.
> >mysql adds tons of unnecessary complexity to the system and wastes system
> >resources.

> Don't whine. Be consistent. Grow up. Have your mama spank you, it's good for
> the soul (tough *you* might like it). Oh, and get an education: respect your
> elders.

> Complexity is in the eye of the beholder. Why should I worry about system
> resources when the system load doesn't go above 5% ? And I monitor it, of
> course, I don't just throw crap in the air as you do.

Armando, please come back when you know what you are talking about.

Complexity has nothing to with the load and although comparing
complexity is subjective, it is clear that "a" has less complexity than
"a plus mysql".

There is no excuse for wasting resources, whether they seem to be
available when you install the system or not.  If you think otherwise,
you are not a good admin and deserve all the mysql that you appear to be
running already.

If your data are mostly stable, than the probability for data corruption
is not as high as for other people with mysql, but it is still there.
Whether you want it or not, you have an unnecessary risk of data
corruption.

Good system engineering means that you minimize the risk for data loss,
corruption or unauthorized manipulation while maximizing performance.
By installing mysql without need, you violate all of the above points.

Whine and insult my mother all you want, you are still a bad admin with
bad spelling.

Felix

Re: qmail with snmp

[Ricardo Cerqueira]

On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 06:11:52PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote:
> Am Samstag,  2. Dezember 2000 06:33 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> 
> >which anti virtus works best with qmail
> 
> How many seconds do you spent on qmail.org ? ;-))
> The available packages are listed there.

Hmmm... I never got the original message, and I've just realized why:

$ host -t mx zeenext.com
zeenext.com mail is handled (pri=10) by mail.zeenext.com
$ host mail.zeenext.com
mail.zeenext.com has address 203.197.173.3
$ host 3.173.197.203.relays.mail-abuse.org
3.173.197.203.relays.mail-abuse.org has address 127.0.0.2

Looks like you've got bigger things to worry about than virii. Search for
"selective relay" in qmail.org.

RC

> 
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> > Prashant  Desai
> 
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Re: qmail with snmp

[Alex Pennace]

On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 12:07:37AM +, Ricardo Cerqueira wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 06:11:52PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote:
> > Am Samstag,  2. Dezember 2000 06:33 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > 
> > >which anti virtus works best with qmail
> > 
> > How many seconds do you spent on qmail.org ? ;-))
> > The available packages are listed there.
> 
> Hmmm... I never got the original message, and I've just realized why:
> 
> $ host -t mx zeenext.com
> zeenext.com mail is handled (pri=10) by mail.zeenext.com
> $ host mail.zeenext.com
> mail.zeenext.com has address 203.197.173.3
> $ host 3.173.197.203.relays.mail-abuse.org
> 3.173.197.203.relays.mail-abuse.org has address 127.0.0.2
> 
> Looks like you've got bigger things to worry about than virii. Search for
> "selective relay" in qmail.org.

Prashant sent the message to the list, so it would not have been
caught by your RBL filter.

Anyway, Prashant complained a few months ago on this list that he was
added to the RBL. Why is he still listed there?

alex@buick:~$ telnet mail.zeenext.com smtp
Trying 203.197.173.3...
Connected to mail.zeenext.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 mail.zeenext.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.8.7; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 05:35:44 +0530
HELO pennace.org
250 mail.zeenext.com Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED] [129.63.206.57], pleased to meet 
you
MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Sender ok
RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Recipient ok
QUIT
221 mail.zeenext.com closing connection
Connection closed by foreign host.

He's STILL running an open relay (and it's not even qmail).

Prashant, hire a consultant. Your situation is just too hopeless for
this list.

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Re: qmail with snmp

[Ricardo Cerqueira]

On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 07:31:37PM -0500, Alex Pennace wrote:
> 
> Prashant sent the message to the list, so it would not have been
> caught by your RBL filter.

Not all implementations of RBL-filtering are based on TCP connections, you
know?
In my case, all incoming messages go through a filter which looks at
headers.

RC


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Re: Minimum OS Requirement to run Qmail

[Jon Rust]

On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 07:50:39PM +0100, Felix von Leitner wrote:
> 
> You miss the point, Andrew.
> 
> People like you install Linux and qmail all over the world.
> They insert the CD and follow the newbie instructions in the manual and
> leave a ton of security holes wide open.


And YOU miss the point Felix. Your crass, mean-spirited responses do
nothing to quell the problems you speak of. "If you're not part of the
solution, you're part of the problem," as the saying goes. You have yet
to help anyone, and in fact, you've chased people off of this list who
are very helpful and more clueful than yourself, because they're tired
of your crap. We had a good list once upon a time.

jon (who swore he would stay out of this mess)

RE: Minimum OS Requirement to run Qmail

[Andrew Buenaventura]

that's more like it Felix! you explain yourself better, you get your message
across, people don't get offended, and most of allthreads like this are
avoided.  Please keep it up.

I thank you for your concern about our as well as the whole internet's
security.  

At the moment, I am just at the point of evaluating things.  Lucky for me, I
have an open deadline so I intend to spend lots of time with qmail/linux
before I put it in the production line. It's my butt on the line so I know I
have to do good. Of course I intend to make it as secure as possible.  In
fact, I received lots of suggestions and one of them is to use OpenBSD which
I gathered is very secure even when the default installation is used.  I
will also not install X in that box.

Don't worry, I am going to follow your advice, I am going to take my time,
learn the OS well, secure it (of course gurus like you are always around to
help me out), then install qmail, learn a lot, secure it, have it tested
(and if you and the other gurus out there are not busy, you may want to help
me test my system...pro bono of course, I can't afford to pay you :)  ), and
if all goes well I can put it in the production line.  I am also not known
to  whine, I've always looked at myself as a gentleman who knows how to
accept "his faults even if it's his butt who will be fried".  






>You miss the point, Andrew.
>
>People like you install Linux and qmail all over the world.
>They insert the CD and follow the newbie instructions in the manual and
>leave a ton of security holes wide open.
>
>Then, hackers break into their machines and the poor admins don't even
>know what hit them and claim Linux is insecure.  Or, even better, they
>remember the only software they installed was qmail, so they say that
>qmail is insecure.
>
>And in many cases, those hacked Linux boxes are used as relay for
>distributed denial of service attacks.
>
>Thus, you are not only a threat to your own data and users, you are a
>threat to the whole Internet.  Unless you let someone do the
>installation for you who knows what he is doing.
>
>If you want to install qmail (or any other MTA) on a server with an
>operating system you are not familiar with, then spend a few months
>becoming familiar with it.  This is not like a vacuum that you plug in
>and it works.  This is more like a Boeing 747 where some helpful
>salesguy has hidden all those confusing pilot knobs behind a friendly
>wizard to increase sales.

>Felix

RE: Minimum OS Requirement to run Qmail

[Andrew Buenaventura]

that's more like it elix! you explain yourself better, you get your message
across, people don't get offended, and most of allthreads like this are
avoided.  Please keep it up.

I thank you for your concern about our as well as the whole internet's
security.  

At the moment, I am just at the point of evaluating things.  Lucky for me, I
have an open deadline so I intend to spend lots of time with qmail/linux
before I put it in the production line. It's my butt on the line so I know I
have to do good. Of course I intend to make it as secure as possible.  In
fact, I received lots of suggestions and one of them is to use OpenBSD which
I gathered is very secure even when the default installation is used.  I
will also not install X in that box.

Don't worry, I am going to follow your advice, I am going to take my time,
learn the OS well, secure it (of course gurus like you are always around to
help me out), then install qmail, learn a lot, secure it, have it tested
(and if you and the other gurus out there are not busy, you may want to help
me test my system...pro bono of course, I can't afford to pay you :)  ), and
if all goes well I can put it in the production line.  I am also not known
to  whine, I've always looked at myself as a gentleman who knows how to
accept "his faults even if it's his butt who will be fried".  






>You miss the point, Andrew.
>
>People like you install Linux and qmail all over the world.
>They insert the CD and follow the newbie instructions in the manual and
>leave a ton of security holes wide open.
>
>Then, hackers break into their machines and the poor admins don't even
>know what hit them and claim Linux is insecure.  Or, even better, they
>remember the only software they installed was qmail, so they say that
>qmail is insecure.
>
>And in many cases, those hacked Linux boxes are used as relay for
>distributed denial of service attacks.
>
>Thus, you are not only a threat to your own data and users, you are a
>threat to the whole Internet.  Unless you let someone do the
>installation for you who knows what he is doing.
>
>If you want to install qmail (or any other MTA) on a server with an
>operating system you are not familiar with, then spend a few months
>becoming familiar with it.  This is not like a vacuum that you plug in
>and it works.  This is more like a Boeing 747 where some helpful
>salesguy has hidden all those confusing pilot knobs behind a friendly
>wizard to increase sales.

>Felix

Re: Minimum OS Requirement to run Qmail

[Sean Truman]

Encore!

Sean
- Original Message - 
From: "Jon Rust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Felix von Leitner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: Minimum OS Requirement to run Qmail


> On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 07:50:39PM +0100, Felix von Leitner wrote:
> > 
> > You miss the point, Andrew.
> > 
> > People like you install Linux and qmail all over the world.
> > They insert the CD and follow the newbie instructions in the manual and
> > leave a ton of security holes wide open.
> 
> 
> And YOU miss the point Felix. Your crass, mean-spirited responses do
> nothing to quell the problems you speak of. "If you're not part of the
> solution, you're part of the problem," as the saying goes. You have yet
> to help anyone, and in fact, you've chased people off of this list who
> are very helpful and more clueful than yourself, because they're tired
> of your crap. We had a good list once upon a time.
> 
> jon (who swore he would stay out of this mess)

Re: Minimum OS Requirement to run Qmail

[asantos]

From: Felix von Leitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Armando, please come back when you know what you are talking about.


yaddayaddayadda.

>There is no excuse for wasting resources, whether they seem to be
>available when you install the system or not.  If you think otherwise,
>you are not a good admin and deserve all the mysql that you appear to be
>running already.


Ah, but I'm not an admin. No sirre. Got better things to do with my life
than to be slave to a computer system, thank you. OTOH, if your life's
purpose is to admin, go ahead. For sure you wouldn't ever "admin" anything I
owned.

>If your data are mostly stable, than the probability for data corruption
>is not as high as for other people with mysql, but it is still there.
>Whether you want it or not, you have an unnecessary risk of data
>corruption.


Sure, there is a risk of data curruption. By using Linux, qmail, vpopmail
and MySQL, indeed by using a computer at all I run a risk of data
corruption. Unnecessary, it isn't. There is no better solution that I know
of, when considering the needs I have. As I mentioned before, I'm talking
260 plus virtual domains and a fair trafic.

>Good system engineering means that you minimize the risk for data loss,

>corruption or unauthorized manipulation while maximizing performance.
>By installing mysql without need, you violate all of the above points.

Nope. Good system engineering means that I must use only so much complexity
as the problem at hand requires, no more. And that when problems happen that
I can find where they came from. Also, it's better when I design a solution
based on my experience than on the doubtfull earsay ans speculations of
others.

>Whine and insult my mother all you want, you are still a bad admin with
>bad spelling.


As I said, I'm not an admin. As for the spelling, I bet I have much less
spelling errors in English than you have in my mother tongue. I haven't
insulted your mother, BTW, nor did I intend to. I was recomending some
things for you... because you may think you are an admin, but you can't be a
good admin with the lack of personal communication skills you display. As
for the technical side, I'm allways open to hard information, something that
your rantings do not provide.

Armando

please help me

[tatsuya kansaki]

i am a beginner
i try to using qmail be an mx ( mail exchange )
i use qmail in my machine k3.umm.ac.id
i want to make my machine k3.umm.ac.id be an mx for domain umm.ac.id
i put all of my machine name in rcpthost in /var/qmail/control/
when someone send e-mail for example [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is going be normal..
but when hari@flamboyan send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..the message or
e-mail can't be send.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the same address with
[EMAIL PROTECTED] error message is at k3.umm.ac.id.
i try to put umm.ac.id in rcpthost , but it's not the answer
sory if my question..is old for all of you..
i'm join to this milis to know the answer of my question

please give me your advice
thanks before
   


best regards



andi

Re: please help me

[Cyril Bitterich]

Hi andi ?,

> i want to make my machine k3.umm.ac.id be an mx for domain umm.ac.id
> i put all of my machine name in rcpthost in /var/qmail/control/

I must aknowledge that I have trouble to understand what you want to
talk about. Iz's not the context but your english that _I_ have trouble
with. 
But you have read

http://www.qmail.org/qmail-manual-html/misc/FAQ.html#3.

have you?

And maybe 
http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#multiple-hostnames

will help you as well.

Regards,

Cyril