Re: Huge Maildirs?

[Robin S. Socha]

* List Monkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010504 01:52]:

> Does anyone have experience with HUGE Maildir's?  I have an account that
> is subscribed to a lot of high traffic mailing lists (like this one), and
> I want to keep all the messages on my server.

Would you care to elaborate what sort of experiences you're looking for.
If you want an answer to "will my buggy and insecure Pine.LNX.4.10
perform well with such a maildir?", you can have it. "No". That is, not
unless you filter into folders and read from there. man maildrop.

> I have seen grumblings, but no concrete info, on what may happen when your
> Maildir contains 10,000 or 100,000 or 1,000,000 messages?

What should happen? It's just files. Performance problems are the same
as per usual (ext2 being one of the not-so-very-good filesystems for
starters).

> I am running 2.2.* Linux

If this is a real problem for you, you might want to think about taking
a look at one of the journalling file systems. You might as well take a
look at softupdates and *BSD.
-- 
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http://my.gnus.org/ - To boldly frobnicate what no newbie has grokked before.

manually run queue

[henrik . troeng]

Hi. How do I manually run the queue in qmail? My qmailmachine mapi-mailserver has been down for a couple of hours, and qmail has queued up all the incoming mails. Now the mailserver has been up for 1 hour, but qmail hasn´t started to deliver. 

Re: manually run queue

[Sean Chittenden]

> Hi. How do I manually run the queue in qmail?

Read the documentation under administration:

http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq.html

FAQs are created because they answer just that, FAQs.  -sc

-- 
Sean Chittenden

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Re: Can MX record be CNAME?

[Henning Brauer]

On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 08:16:16PM -0500, q question wrote:
> Actually, I think I could never have solved the sendmail configuration 
> problems that I have solved without knowing BIND thoroughly. Mail 
> administration maintenance doesn't need detailed BIND, but the initial 
> sendmail configuration in a complex environment absolutely needs thorough 
> DNS/BIND knowledge.

STOP THIS OT Stuff! Mr. "q question", I haven't seen a single on-topic post
from you. Please search another communications forum for smalltalk. This
List is not about sendmail, BIND or Flaming Charles, this list is about
qmail, period.


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Re: Can MX record be CNAME?

[Peter Peltonen]

Aaron Goldblatt wrote:
> With respect to the remainder of your question, reverse resolution isn't a
> necessary consideration.
> 
> For example:
> 
> mail.goldblatt.net  --  208.190.130.82.  It  reverses to
> wndrgrl.goldblatt.net.  It still works.

This is the case what made me think the subject in the first place: If mail
servers MX name (mail.goldblatt.net) which it announces when contacting
another mailserver is different than the one that a PTR record for it's IP
address 208.190.130.82 resolves (wndrgrl.goldblatt.net) I thought it might
lead to trouble.

But you are absolutely sure that it won't? If so, great, no problemo then.

Peter

Re: Can MX record be CNAME?

[Henning Brauer]

On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 08:18:56PM -0500, q question wrote:
> >Please stop this useless flaming. You aren't posting anything usefull, just
> >flaming charles. This is a technical discussion list, no smalltalk. Either
> >provide answers or participate in technical discussions or shut up. 
> I am not flaming Charles in any way. I have been completely respectful.

Sure. What else.

> I 
> have requested that he not issue blanket directives that are not necessarily 
> shared by all.

You are posting tons of useless OFF TOPIC stuff and not a single on-topic
message so far, please stop this NOW.

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R: manually run queue

[Andrea Cerrito]

Read 
the faq.
http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/admin.html#queuerun
---Cordiali saluti / Best regardsAndrea 
Cerrito^^Net.Admin @ Centro MultiMediale di Terni 
SpAP.zzale Bosco 3A05100 Terni ITTel. 0744 / 5441330Fax. 0744 / 
5441372 

  -Messaggio originale-Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Inviato: venerdì 4 maggio 2001 
  8.57A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Oggetto: manually run 
  queueHi. How do I 
  manually run the queue in qmail? My qmailmachine mapi-mailserver has been down 
  for a couple of hours, and qmail has queued up all the incoming mails. Now the 
  mailserver has been up for 1 hour, but qmail hasn´t started to deliver. 
  

qmail Digest 4 May 2001 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 1354

[qmail-digest-help]

qmail Digest 4 May 2001 10:00:01 - Issue 1354

Topics (messages 61880 through 61964):

Bug? in qmail-inject: QMAILINJECT=f ruins resent mails
61880 by: Jost.Krieger.ruhr-uni-bochum.de

Re: [ezmlm] lock: file does not exist
61881 by: peter green
61886 by: Karsten W. Rohrbach

strange behaviour at (some) virtual domains..
61882 by: Anton Pirnat

Re: adresses
61883 by: Hans Sandsdalen

Can MX record be CNAME?
61884 by: Peter Peltonen
61890 by: Charles Cazabon
61893 by: q question
61894 by: q question
61896 by: Charles Cazabon
61897 by: James Raftery
61901 by: Markus Stumpf
61902 by: Kris von Mach
61905 by: Charles Cazabon
61908 by: Kris von Mach
61910 by: Charles Cazabon
61911 by: Greg White
61913 by: q question
61918 by: q question
61920 by: Charles Cazabon
61924 by: Charles Cazabon
61925 by: Henning Brauer
61928 by: Kris von Mach
61937 by: Charles Cazabon
61938 by: Peter van Dijk
61939 by: Colin Palmer
61940 by: Timothy Mayo
61943 by: Aaron Goldblatt
61945 by: Tim Legant
61946 by: q question
61947 by: q question
61948 by: q question
61949 by: Markus Stumpf
61950 by: Scott D. Yelich
61961 by: Henning Brauer
61962 by: Peter Peltonen
61963 by: Henning Brauer

autoresponder inter7.com again
61885 by: Flavio Alberto

Re: timeout downloading mail while connecting to the server using dial-up
61887 by: Charles Cazabon

Re: how to run two qmail-smtpd
61888 by: Charles Cazabon

Re: Qmail as only relay
61889 by: Charles Cazabon

Re: SPAM Patches recomendations.
61891 by: q question
61892 by: Charles Cazabon
61895 by: q question
61898 by: Chris Garrigues
61903 by: Charles Cazabon
61907 by: Greg White
61912 by: Alan Clegg
61914 by: q question
61915 by: q question
61916 by: q question
61919 by: Charles Cazabon

error with sqwebmail
61899 by: Brendan McAlpine

R: Qmail as only relay
61900 by: Andrea Cerrito

qmail and multiple MX records
61904 by: Van Liedekerke Franky

EMail to all my users
61906 by: Fares Gianluca
61923 by: Stephen Berg

forwarding to a dynamic / variable address ??
61909 by: Kim Chr. Hvidkjaer
61917 by: Charles Cazabon
61922 by: Wagner Teixeira
61931 by: Brett

concurrency and bccs
61921 by: Brett
61927 by: Charles Cazabon

FromMail.pl
61926 by: Flavio Alberto
61934 by: Brett
61935 by: Olivier M.

R: error with sqwebmail
61929 by: Andrea Cerrito
61941 by: Henning Brauer

Re: Limit outbound connections but not for all domains
61930 by: Puneet Narang
61933 by: Charles Cazabon

Re: Both system account and virtual account of one domain.
61932 by: Keary Suska

Re: Strange Bounce
61936 by: Marco Calistri

Re: open BSD
61942 by: Stefan Laudat

qmail-smtpd, qmail-send and multiple IP addresses
61944 by: Darcy Buskermolen

How to increase the qmail "concurrency"?
61951 by: Chris
61953 by: Chris Johnson
61954 by: Jason Brooke
61956 by: Dan Phoenix
61957 by: Jason Brooke

Missing step in qmail+mysql! pls help!
61952 by: Foo Ji-Haw

Huge Maildirs?
61955 by: List Monkey
61958 by: Robin S. Socha

manually run queue
61959 by: henrik.troeng.ekakan.com
61960 by: Sean Chittenden

R: manually run queue
61964 by: Andrea Cerrito

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of "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and, even with new MUAs, user can't be
bothered to configure them correctly, we set up the following
environment variables in /etc/profile and such:

QMAILHOST
QMAILUSER
QMAILINJECT=f

This usually works nicely for the vintage MUAs, and doesn't
do anything bad with sensible MUAs like mutt or Gnus.

But: If you are resending a message to someone else with a sensible
MUA, it will add Resent-From: etc. headers.

Then qmail-inject goes ahead and removes the original From: header
(beacuse of QMAILINJECT=f) and looks if it must add a new Resent-From:
header (it doesn't need to) and the mail is sent without any From: header
at all.

So:

1. If you are using a sensible client, be smart enough to unset
   QMAILINJECT.
2. qmail-inject could be enhanced by making the process of removing
   and adding headers more symmetrical.

Re: Can MX record be CNAME?

[Robin S. Socha]

* Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010504 04:49]:
[...]
> You are posting tons of useless OFF TOPIC stuff and not a single on-topic
> message so far, please stop this NOW.

http://www.moongroup.com/stories.php?story=01/04/19/7271589 - nice site,
too.

And fix your sig. Noone's gonna call you with an MUA, you know? }:->

Re: qmail-smtpd, qmail-send and multiple IP addresses

[Rodrigo Severo]

Darcy Buskermolen wrote:
> 
> Is there a way to get qmail to use the IP that mail is recived in on to
> resend it back out ?

AFAIK the answer is no. I have been looking for some similar feature: I
want to set the src address depending on the e-mail bandwidth
requirement, you want to set it acording to the address it entered
through.

I managed to implement what I want with a major hack (also called
gambiara in portuguese): I already used qmail-scanner to filter my
e-mails for virus. Now qmail-scanner is also choosing which of my - now
- two qmail instances to use.

The new instance I installed yesterday has Damir Cifer outgoingip patch.

I believe you should take a look at  looking for
the 'bind to ip' patches. Besides Damir Cifer patch there are others
that might interest you, for example: Bill Nugent's updated patch.

None of them is exactly what you are looking for but you might be able
to create a gambiara that suit your needs.


I hope I helped you in some way,

Rodrigo Severo

Re: Can MX record be CNAME?

[Dave Sill]

"q question" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I was appalled when [Charles] said "please don't post BIND zonefiles
>to Dan's lists". That is a blanket directive that is not necessarily
>shared by everyone on this list, certainly not me.

directive <> request

>A few lines of zone records speaks volumes for BINDthinkers and they are 
>well worth the space in the email.

BINDthinkers are WRONGthinkers. djbdnsthinkers are RIGHTthinkers. :-)

Zone files are as welcome here as sendmail.cf's: not very. DJB went to
a great deal of effort to free us from crapware like Sendmail and
BIND. Please show him a little respect.

-Dave

Re: Can MX record be CNAME?

[Markus Stumpf]

On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 11:14:52AM +0300, Peter Peltonen wrote:
> But you are absolutely sure that it won't? If so, great, no problemo then.

You can't be sure about anything.
There are broken DNS libraries out there, paranoid configured
tcpservers/inetds/...

The funny thing about this whole thread is that the source of all
problems is probably a lousy provider, that doesn't care for PTR
delegations. So why don't you get yourself a caring one?

\Maex

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Re: Huge Maildirs?

[Charles Cazabon]

List Monkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone have experience with HUGE Maildir's?  I have an account that
> is subscribed to a lot of high traffic mailing lists (like this one), and
> I want to keep all the messages on my server.

I do this; however, I use qmail's extension addressing scheme to put each
mailing list in a different Maildir.  I still have archive Maildirs with 3,000
or 5,000 messages in them.

> I have seen grumblings, but no concrete info, on what may happen when your
> Maildir contains 10,000 or 100,000 or 1,000,000 messages?

It's not really specific to Maildirs, but many OSes and filesystems slow down
significantly when you have a large number of files in a single directory
(like Maildir/cur/), due to the linear-scan nature of directory access in most
filesystems.  Some systems have implemented internal hashing and whatnot to
speed these operations up; patches have been posted to the linux-kernel
mailing list in the last few months showing ten- or hundredfold-increase in
speed in directories with 10,000 or more files.

Until you notice that it's slow, it's not a problem.

Charles
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Re: Can MX record be CNAME?

[John Hogan]

temper, temper, Henning...

my temper got me into trouble earlier this week... just let them act like children and 
let it go

- hogan

At 03:15 AM 5/4/2001, you wrote:
>On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 08:18:56PM -0500, q question wrote:
>> >Please stop this useless flaming. You aren't posting anything usefull, just
>> >flaming charles. This is a technical discussion list, no smalltalk. Either
>> >provide answers or participate in technical discussions or shut up. 
>> I am not flaming Charles in any way. I have been completely respectful.
>
>Sure. What else.
>
>> I 
>> have requested that he not issue blanket directives that are not necessarily 
>> shared by all.
>
>You are posting tons of useless OFF TOPIC stuff and not a single on-topic
>message so far, please stop this NOW.
>
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Re: FromMail.pl

[Lisa Applegate]

> "FA" == Flavio Alberto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

FA> FormMailpl http://www.worldwidemart.com/scripts/ work it
FA> qmail?  

Be advised that formmail.pl has a giant security hole in it, allowing
spammers to abuse your script and use it as an anonymous relay. 

Another perl script with better security and similar functionality is
"mailer", which can be found here:

http://www.geekgiveaways.com/code/




Lisa
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RE: qmail-smtpd, qmail-send and multiple IP addresses

[Filip Sneppe \(Yucom\)]

From: Darcy Buskermolen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> Is there a way to get qmail to use the IP that mail is recived in on to
> resend it back out ?
>
> ie My qmail box has a few IP applied to it.
>
> 10.1.1.1
> 10.1.1.2
> 10.1.1.3
>
> I'd like mail comming in via smtp on 10.1.1.2 to go out useing 10.1.1.2 as
> the src address. Currently it defaults to 10.1.1.1
>
> IS there a way to do this ?

Hi Darcy,

I think you should look into the NAT (network Address Translation)
possibilities that are offered by the underlying operating system, rather
than trying to change the behavior of network applications like qmail.

I can't speak for all UNICES, but on Linux 2.4, you could make use of the
netfilter/iptables architecture to do some source address NAT in the
netfilter postrouting table based on the source and/or destination
destination TCP/UDP ports. It might also be possible to do it on a 2.2
kernel with advanced routing support and iproute2.

I'd be glad to hear from *BSD people on the list if ipfilter offers similar
functionality (possibly in private email).

Regards,
Filip

Qmail and its parts.

[Carl J. Danowski]

I don't normally ask for help, but this thing 
(qmail and associated programs) is driving me nuts.
 
Environment and background:
 
O/S: RedHat 7.0
 
compiled and installed these packages:
 
qmail-1.03+patches-18
supervise-scripts-3.3-1
ucspi-tcp-0.88-1
ucspi-unix-0.34-1
vmailmgr-0.96.9-2
vmailmgr-courier-imap-0.96.9-2
vmailmgr-daemon-0.96.9-2
 
While I thought I've configured everything 
according to the million man files...mail comes in, gets put into a directory 
under /var/qmail/queue 
 
ps -ef | grep qmail reveals:
 
root   
198   194  0 08:59 ?    
00:00:00 supervise qmailqmaild 
570 1  0 09:00 
?    00:00:00 tcpserver -c 100 -u 101 -g 
102 0
 
so qmail is apparantly running.
 
qmail-showctl looks good.  my rcpthosts 
contains the name of the mailserver, the name of the domain.
 
virtualdomains looks good.. for both users i have 
defined right now, it has the name of the domain and the username 
(domainname:username).
 
/etc/qmail/users/assign formatted according to the 
man page.
 
qmail-qstat reveals:
 
messages in queue: 24messages in queue but not 
yet preprocessed: 14
 
It would help me greatly if anyone could help me 
understand how all these things fit together.  I know supervise is a 
replacement for just putting something in rc.d or whatever, and i think i have 
that running right, since qmail is running.  What I'm hoping to 
accomplish is the delivery of the email into the correct user's 
maildir.  Confused as to how vmailmgr fits into this, i've even made the 
.qmail file in the user's directory simply point at the maildir directory, 
instead of using the | to send the mail to the vmailmgr.
 
Could someone get me started?
 
Thanks..
 
Carl Danowski
 

Re: Qmail and its parts.

[Chris Johnson]

On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 12:57:56PM -0400, Carl J. Danowski wrote:
> While I thought I've configured everything according to the million man
> files...mail comes in, gets put into a directory under /var/qmail/queue 
> 
> ps -ef | grep qmail reveals:
> 
> root   198   194  0 08:59 ?00:00:00 supervise qmail
> qmaild 570 1  0 09:00 ?00:00:00 tcpserver -c 100 -u 101 -g 102 0
> 
> so qmail is apparantly running.

It looks like it's not running. You should see these:

qmails 235  0.0  0.4   952  472 con- I17Apr01   0:57.48 qmail-send
root   242  0.0  0.3   888  380 con- I17Apr01   0:10.77 qmail-lspawn ./Maildir/
qmailr 243  0.0  0.3   888  424 con- I17Apr01   0:01.92 qmail-rspawn
qmailq 244  0.0  0.3   876  384 con- I17Apr01   0:09.98 qmail-clean

It looks like you probably have qmail-smtpd running, which will happily queue
mail that comes in via SMTP, but qmail-send isn't there to process it once it's
queued.

What's in /service/qmail/run? Is /service/qmail/run executable? Is anything in
the logs?

Chris

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Re: Qmail and its parts.

[Carl J. Danowski]

oops.  i chmod'd run and ran it.  immediately it tried to process the queue.
thanks.  i hate it when it's something stupid, and, of course, my question
went to the millions (haha) on this list. .  now, i've just got to figure
out why it's not "able to chdir to Maildir." hmm...

thanks again.
carl

- Original Message -
From: "Chris Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Carl J. Danowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: Qmail and its parts.

qmtp

[Steve Hagerman]

Hey just curious is anyone implementing qmtp presently?
I thought about giving it a whirl but wouldnt do much good if im the only
one.

 Administrator
Steve Hagerman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.advancedisp.com/
Phone: 864-220-1594

Re: Missing step in qmail+mysql! pls help!

[Tim Legant]

On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 12:20:50PM +0800, Foo Ji-Haw wrote:

[snip qmail+mysql information...]

> -My processes are like these:
> 36449  p0- I  0:00.01 /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/safe_mysqld --datadir=/var/db/
> 36478  p0- S  0:00.60 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld --basedir=/usr/local --data
> 36678  p0- I  0:00.02 qmail-send
> 36679  p0- I  0:00.00 splogger qmail
> 36680  p0- I  0:00.00 qmail-lspawn |preline procmail
> 36681  p0- I  0:00.00 qmail-rspawn
> 36682  p0- I  0:00.00 qmail-clean
> 
> The funny thing is, i can't seem to find the mysql server process, even when
> i do a 'ps aux'.

I've never used the qmail+mysql stuff, so I'm afraid I can't help you
with that. However, the mysql server process is called "mysqld" and is
the second line (above) of your 'ps' listing - PID 36478. It appears to
be running just fine.

Tim
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qmail | 2) Roaming users --> http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#relaying
 FAQS | 3) Secondary MX  --> list in rcpthosts, NOT in locals/virtualdomains
* * * | 4) Discard mail  --> "#" line ONLY, in appropriate .qmail file

Cluster

[Tony Vickers]

I was wondering if there is a way to do a reverse of QMTP. What I would like
to do is put Qmail on 4 systems in a cluster (no NFS) with a queue and do
nothing but forward all mail to the main mail server. This way if my main
mail server goes down all mail is queued until that main server comes back
online

Tony

Re: Can MX record be CNAME?

[q question]

>From: "Dave Sill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Can MX record be CNAME?
>Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:32:58 -0400
>
>"q question" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I was appalled when [Charles] said "please don't post BIND zonefiles
> >to Dan's lists". That is a blanket directive that is not necessarily
> >shared by everyone on this list, certainly not me.
>
>directive <> request
>
> >A few lines of zone records speaks volumes for BINDthinkers and they are
> >well worth the space in the email.
>
>BINDthinkers are WRONGthinkers. djbdnsthinkers are RIGHTthinkers. :-)
>
>Zone files are as welcome here as sendmail.cf's: not very. DJB went to
>a great deal of effort to free us from crapware like Sendmail and
>BIND. Please show him a little respect.
>
>-Dave

I have shown respect for DJB and everyone on this list. I am looking very 
seriously at installing djbdns, and I'm sure that djbdns is in fact probably 
going to show itself to be superior to BIND.

BINDthinkers cannot just jump blindly into djbdnsthink. There are going to 
be a few posts now and again where someone is going to show a few zone 
records to clarify their point while they transition into qmail/djbdns/etc.

Noone should say: "please don't post BIND zonefiles to Dan's lists". This 
fellow only showed a few lines, not his entire zonefile. I made one simple 
request to Charles not to shut down this kind of information and received 
arguments from Charles which I responded to. In the process of responding to 
the arguments generated by Charles, I have been accused wrongly of being 
off-topic.

END OF DISCUSSION

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Re: qmtp

[Henning Brauer]

On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 01:58:26PM -0400, Steve Hagerman wrote:
> Hey just curious is anyone implementing qmtp presently?

Meaning the modified qmail-remote, running qmail-qmtpd and annoucing this
via MXPS? We do it for everthing hosted here.

> I thought about giving it a whirl but wouldnt do much good if im the only
> one.

You aren't. There are coming mails in via qmtp, though it's less then 1%.


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Re: qmtp

[Charles Cazabon]

Steve Hagerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey just curious is anyone implementing qmtp presently?

Yes, many people on this list are using Dan's MXPS proposal.  Russell Nelson
and others have QMTP patches for qmail.  See qmail.org for details.

Charles
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Re: Can MX record be CNAME?

[Adam McKenna]

On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 01:19:17PM -0500, q question wrote:
> I have shown respect for DJB and everyone on this list. I am looking very 
> seriously at installing djbdns, and I'm sure that djbdns is in fact probably 
> going to show itself to be superior to BIND.

Heh, it's funny how some people talk about respect and yet hide behind fake
e-mail addresses and pseudonyms.

--Adam

Re: qmtp

[Peter van Dijk]

On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 01:58:26PM -0400, Steve Hagerman wrote:
> Hey just curious is anyone implementing qmtp presently?
> I thought about giving it a whirl but wouldnt do much good if im the only
> one.

I provide lists that deliver over qmtp if your MX records are
MXPS-compliant. Go to http://www.dataloss.nl/services/ for more info.

Greetz, Peter.

Re: Cluster

[Peter van Dijk]

On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 11:19:40AM -0700, Tony Vickers wrote:
> I was wondering if there is a way to do a reverse of QMTP. What I would like
> to do is put Qmail on 4 systems in a cluster (no NFS) with a queue and do
> nothing but forward all mail to the main mail server. This way if my main
> mail server goes down all mail is queued until that main server comes back
> online

You probably mean the reverse of QMQP there :)

Regardless, your setup is simple: set primary MX to your main mail
server, and put the 4 backuphosts at secondary MX levels, all 4 the
same. Done.

Greetz, Peter.

Re: Can MX record be CNAME?

[Dave Sill]

"q question" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>END OF DISCUSSION

Sorry, q, but I'm not ready to end the discussion, despite your
declaration.

>Dave Sill wrote:
>>
>>"q question" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >I was appalled when [Charles] said "please don't post BIND zonefiles
>> >to Dan's lists". That is a blanket directive that is not necessarily
>> >shared by everyone on this list, certainly not me.
>>
>>directive <> request

You ignored this comment, which is, I think, critical. Charles said
"please don't post...". Charles did not say "never post...". The
former is a request. The latter is a directive. If Charles had given a
directive, your reaction *might* have been justified.

>BINDthinkers cannot just jump blindly into djbdnsthink. There are going to 
>be a few posts now and again where someone is going to show a few zone 
>records to clarify their point while they transition into qmail/djbdns/etc.

Such zone file excerpts should be prefaced with an apology. If no
apology is included, offenders should not be surprised if people point
out their faux pas.

>Noone should say: "please don't post BIND zonefiles to Dan's lists".

Who is Noone, and why should he repeat Charles' request?

-Dave

Re: Filter incoming messages for one particualr user

[John R. Levine]

>> Let's say I have a user "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", whose home directory is
>> /home/mailuser.  I want to set things up so that mailuser only accepts
>> messages from one particular e-mail address.  In other words, if the sender
>> is any other address besides [EMAIL PROTECTED], mailuser will silently
>> throw the message away.  If the message is from [EMAIL PROTECTED], it
>> completes the instructions in mailuser's .qmail file (which right now
>> forwards to three other addresses).

It's very easy.  Put this as the first line in the .qmail file:

| case "$SENDER" in [EMAIL PROTECTED]) exit 0 ;; *) exit 99 ;; esac

The exit 99 tells qmail to skip the rest of the .qmail file.

-- 
John R. Levine, IECC, POB 727, Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Village Trustee and Sewer Commissioner, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-mail

RE: Can MX record be CNAME?

[Brett]

Everybody seriously needs to lighten up.

A LOT.

Re: Can MX record be CNAME?

[Kris von Mach]

At 03:37 PM 5/4/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> >BINDthinkers cannot just jump blindly into djbdnsthink. There are going to
> >be a few posts now and again where someone is going to show a few zone
> >records to clarify their point while they transition into qmail/djbdns/etc.
>
>Such zone file excerpts should be prefaced with an apology. If no
>apology is included, offenders should not be surprised if people point
>out their faux pas.
>
>-Dave

Um guys... All I wanted to know was why you can't use CNAME for a MX record.
The question has been answered, and maybe this topic can be dropped now? Or
should we continue on giving our opinions on what should and shouldn't be
posted and how it should be posted, etc...

Second, I just wanted to point out that this is qmail list, not djdns or
bind list. So asking a question related to qmail, and using a format of bind
or djdns zone files to give further explanation of what is the
question/problem should be ok. If bind zone files offend you, I think you
might have a bigger problem to worry about. It's like saying inetd startup
script for qmail offends me because I use tcpserver... Come on, give it a
break. And giving an apology for posting relevant info? Maybe you should
also put in an apology, every time you write something that might offend
someone...

The questions have been asked and answered, lets just move on with our lives
now and end this thread.

On an ending note, I appreciate everyone that responded to my question and
gave me relevant info. I have fixed it on our servers, and am very happy
that I am now RFC compliant.

__
Kris.

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[Dave Schultz]

Dave Schultz
Tech Support
casagrande.com
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Filter incoming message

[K. F. YIm]

Hi,
 
Not being a programming guru, does this mean that if I put:
 
| case "$SENDER" in [EMAIL PROTECTED]) exit 99 ;; *) 
exit 0 ;; esac
 
would do the reverse effect of excluding incoming messages for [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
 
KF
 
"John R. Levine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> 
>> Let's say I have a user "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", whose home 
directory is> >> /home/mailuser.  I want to set things up so 
that mailuser only accepts> >> messages from one particular e-mail 
address.  In other words, if the sender> >> is any other 
address besides [EMAIL PROTECTED], mailuser will 
silently> >> throw the message away.  If the message is from 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], it> 
>> completes the instructions in mailuser's .qmail file (which right 
now> >> forwards to three other addresses).> > It's 
very easy.  Put this as the first line in the .qmail file:> > 
| case "$SENDER" in [EMAIL PROTECTED]) exit 0 ;; *) 
exit 99 ;; esac> > The exit 99 tells qmail to skip the rest of the 
.qmail file.> > -- > John R. Levine, IECC, POB 727, 
Trumansburg NY 14886 +1 607 387 6869> [EMAIL PROTECTED], Village Trustee and Sewer 
Commissioner, http://iecc.com/johnl, 
> Member, Provisional board, Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial 
E-mail

RE: How to increase the qmail "concurrency"?

[Michael Boyiazis]

do we know that he meant for remote delivery?
your answer is not necessarily correct.  checking
the FAQ or lifewithqmail *would* be better since 
it would include info about both local and remote
deliveries.

-- 
Michael Boyiazis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail Architect, NetZero, Inc.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:59 PM
> To: Jason Brooke
> Cc: Chris; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: How to increase the qmail "concurrency"?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> hi jason why not just say /var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote
> 
> add it there...have a good day.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 4 May 2001, Jason Brooke wrote:
> 
> > Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:35:45 +1000
> > From: Jason Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: How to increase the qmail "concurrency"?
> > 
> > > my qmail-mrtg show that the qmail concurrency value 20 is 
> not enough. anyone
> > > can tell me how to increase it.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >   Chris
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Chris
> > 
> > Please read 'FAQ' in your source directory, or have a look at
> > http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html which is linked from 
> www.qmail.org
> > 
> > jason
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

Re: qmail-smtpd, qmail-send and multiple IP addresses

[Karsten W. Rohrbach]

Filip Sneppe (Yucom)([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.05.04 16:12:44 +:
> I'd be glad to hear from *BSD people on the list if ipfilter offers similar
> functionality (possibly in private email).
ipf on bsd should provide this feature via nat bimap
/k

> 
> Regards,
> Filip

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Re: Qmail and its parts.

[Johan Almqvist]

* "Carl J. Danowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010504 19:32]:
> oops.  i chmod'd run and ran it.  immediately it tried to process the queue.
> thanks.  i hate it when it's something stupid, and, of course, my question
> went to the millions (haha) on this list. .  now, i've just got to figure
> out why it's not "able to chdir to Maildir." hmm...

Permissions on the Maildir are probably wrong. Did you create a users
Maildir as root?

-Johan
-- 
Johan Almqvist
http://www.almqvist.net/johan/qmail/

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Re: qmtp

[Johan Almqvist]

* Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010504 20:42]:
> Steve Hagerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey just curious is anyone implementing qmtp presently?
> Yes, many people on this list are using Dan's MXPS proposal.  Russell Nelson
> and others have QMTP patches for qmail.  See qmail.org for details.

There's also a set of patches on my page (address below).

-Johan
-- 
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http://www.almqvist.net/johan/qmail/

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Re: How to increase the qmail "concurrency"?

[root]

> hi jason why not just say /var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote
>
> add it there...have a good day.


Because I'd prefer to politely teach people to learn to help themselves if they
can

jason

POP3 Cluster

[Eduardo Augusto Alvarenga]

Hi,

Anyone on the list(s) have any idea of how to make a "independent-of-another-
servers" pop3 cluster on a group of qmail-vpopmail servers? Preferentlly on 
distinct DMZs.

B.R.

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