tcpserver -p and smtpd and DNS
I have been running qmail for about 8 months, It works great. So far I have not been able to resolve on problem. When an smtp connection comes in we only want to connect with servers who have forward and reverse DNS that match. I managed to install a macro into sendmail (mail server we replaced) in about 15 minutes that takes the IP of the incoming smtp request looks up the name, then looks up the IP for the NAME. the IP should be the same as the connecting host. If this is not the case the smtp connection should be dropped. I use tcpserver to start smtpd. I use the -p (paranoid) option, (added the option a few days ago) which by my preliminary understanding was supposed to accomplish this task of DNS cross-matching. However I receieved an email recently whois headers are Received: from unknown (HELO www.somang.or.kr) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I noticed that there isn't a hostname. nslookup 211.38.3.100 will return no hostname. So back to the drawing board. http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp/tcpserver.html ( -- drawing board) I notice -p: Paranoid. After looking up the remote host name in DNS, look up the IP addresses in DNS for that host name, and remove the environment variable $TCPREMOTEHOST if none of the addresses match the client's IP address. upon re-reading this option I notice it did what it says it does, It removed the $TCPREMOTEHOST, hence the Received: from unknown I still got the email. So now I figure that $TCPREMOTEHOST is passed to smtpd in the environment variables. so somehow I need to tell smtpd to close if condition is not met. Oh.. I have read the man pages. I have installed qmail, vpopmail, on more than a dozen servers for nearly that many clients. I understand quite abit. David Killingsworth.
Slow start tcpserver
Hi ALL! I decided try tcpserver program for qmail services (smtpd pop3d). It's work properly but sometimes tcpserver strarting very slow ( more than 30 sec ! ). When I used xinetd for starting qmail-smtpd qmail-pop3d I never must wait for starting it. --- /etc/rc.d/rc.qmail --- /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -H -R -v -u 514 -g 503 -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb 0 25 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd \ 2 /var/log/qmail-smtp.log /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -H -R -v -x /etc/tcp.pop3.cdb 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup mserver \ /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 2 /var/log/qmail-pop3.log --- end --- What I do wrong? Thx. -- Good Luck! Andriy T. Yanko +-+ | E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 83047775 Powered by Linux | +-+
Re: Slow start tcpserver
Try to use the -l name parameter on tcpserver. Tonino At 14/05/2001 14/05/2001 +0300, Andriy T. Yanko wrote: Hi ALL! I decided try tcpserver program for qmail services (smtpd pop3d). It's work properly but sometimes tcpserver strarting very slow ( more than 30 sec ! ). When I used xinetd for starting qmail-smtpd qmail-pop3d I never must wait for starting it. --- /etc/rc.d/rc.qmail --- /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -H -R -v -u 514 -g 503 -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb 0 25 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd \ 2 /var/log/qmail-smtp.log /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -H -R -v -x /etc/tcp.pop3.cdb 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup mserver \ /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 2 /var/log/qmail-pop3.log --- end --- What I do wrong? Thx. -- Good Luck! Andriy T. Yanko +-+ | E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ# 83047775 Powered by Linux | +-+
Re: tcpserver -p and smtpd and DNS
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 06:30:44AM -, David Killingsworth wrote: I have been running qmail for about 8 months, It works great. So far I have not been able to resolve on problem. When an smtp connection comes in we only want to connect with servers who have forward and reverse DNS that match. I allready anwered your question in alt.comp.mail.qmail some days ago. What is wrong with my answer? Gerrit. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] innominate AG the linux architects tel: +49.30.308806-0 fax: -77 http://www.innominate.com
[Fwd: Administrivia: Move to EZMLM]
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Re: Slow start tcpserver
Dear Andriy I believe the -l switch should solve your problem as the other person mentioned. If you are getting into using tcpserver and the other services written by qmail's author you may wish to look at qmail-conf http://www.din.or.jp/~ushijima/qmail-conf.html as this does a nice job of setting up all configuration files and logging via multilog and you can look how the author sets up calling tcpserver. Read his docs though as the program does a complete setup which you may or may not wish to go with. Good luck Patrick == Hi ALL! I decided try tcpserver program for qmail services (smtpd pop3d). It's work properly but sometimes tcpserver strarting very slow ( more than 30 sec ! ). _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
qmail Digest 14 May 2001 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 1364
qmail Digest 14 May 2001 10:00:00 - Issue 1364
Topics (messages 62364 through 62397):
qmail-analog
62364 by: ross.pro-web.ie
Re: MASS mailing
62365 by: Mike Jackson
62370 by: Karsten W. Rohrbach
Re: qmail does not handle timezones properly?
62366 by: Adrian Ho
62368 by: Patrick Starrenburg
62369 by: Patrick Starrenburg
62374 by: Adrian Ho
62376 by: Mark Delany
62379 by: Antonio Dias
Re: Newbies vs. arrogant experts (was: Newbie with tcpserver)
62367 by: Karsten W. Rohrbach
Unsubscribe Doesn't Work
62371 by: Jim Darrough
62373 by: Brett Randall
62392 by: Andy Bradford
qmail does not handle timezones properly? - More Info
62372 by: Patrick Starrenburg
62375 by: Peter van Dijk
62377 by: Mark Delany
62378 by: Frank Tegtmeyer
62380 by: Mark Jefferys
62382 by: Felix von Leitner
62383 by: Peter van Dijk
62384 by: Patrick Starrenburg
Re: Handling high volume lists (was: Newbies vs. arrogant experts)
62381 by: Chris Garrigues
alias documentation
62385 by: Neil Grant
62386 by: Nick (Keith) Fish
How to resend individual message?
62387 by: Evelyn Huang
Default forward address for entire domain with non sytems account assign file
62388 by: Peter Janett
62390 by: Ryan Byrne
No mail arrival notice!
62389 by: Evelyn Huang
tcpserver -p and smtpd and DNS
62391 by: David Killingsworth
62395 by: Gerrit Pape
Slow start tcpserver
62393 by: Andriy T. Yanko
62394 by: tonix (Antonio Nati)
62397 by: Patrick Starrenburg
Re: Administrivia: Move to EZMLM]
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Hi List,
I have installed the qmail-analog software
(http://cr.yp.to/qmailanalog.html). This has been a great help as I can
now find out information on active users on my system.
Is there a simple command to identify a users details? I would like a
simple report which gives me information on a per domain or per user basis.
I would like one command which lists all the emails a certain user has
recievedis this possable?
For the benifit of the list here are the commands I use to extract data
from the logs:
To list general details:
awk '{$1=;$2=;$3=;$4=;$5=;print}' /var/log/maillog | cat |
/usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/matchup | /usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/zoverall
To list the details of all the users ont he system:
awk '{$1=;$2=;$3=;$4=;$5=;print}' /var/log/maillog | cat |
/usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/matchup | /usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/zrecipients
To list all the people who have sent emails to our customers:
awk '{$1=;$2=;$3=;$4=;$5=;print}' /var/log/maillog | cat |
/usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/matchup | /usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/zsenders
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Charles Cazabon wrote:
There's other tricks as well, but with the above list you should easily be
able to handle 1M deliveries a day on decent hardware. I'm afraid I'm not
familiar with the Netra you mention.
Netra's are little 1U pizza box style 'servers'. They are meant for
telecom operators, etc. I use one for a qmail/courier imap server for a
few hundred users, and it's ok. I definitely would not consider it a
'high end' solution. Yes, Solaris is slow, but it's also stable. Sort of
like an old John Deere tractor ;-). I wouldn't use one of these for a
million message per day list, although a cluster of them might be ok.
Mike
Mike Jackson([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.05.13 13:46:29 +:
Netra's are little 1U pizza box style 'servers'. They are meant for
telecom operators, etc. I use one for a qmail/courier imap server for a
few hundred users, and it's ok. I definitely would not consider
Re: tcpserver -p and smtpd and DNS
I have narrowed this to one simple item. Could someone, possibly you Gerrit I know you have answered one way to get around this I just wanna understand why I have to get around it, explain to me why qmail has delivered an email to me that contains the following header: Received: from unknown (HELO dali.onevision.de) (@212.77.172.50) by mail.myweb.net with SMTP; 14 May 2001 08:59:56 - I have tcpserver -DUvp wrapping smtpd for qmail. Shouldn't tcpserver drop the connection when $TCPREMOTEIP is DNS'd to a hostname and $TCPREMOTEHOST is DNS'd to an IP. if $TCPREMOTEIP can't be resolved or if $TCPREMOTEHOST can't be resolved, shouldn't this cause a FATAL in tcpserver? and it will drop the incoming connection? David. On Mon, 14 May 2001 10:51:33 +0200, Gerrit Pape [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 06:30:44AM -, David Killingsworth wrote: I have been running qmail for about 8 months, It works great. So far I have not been able to resolve on problem. When an smtp connection comes in we only want to connect with servers who have forward and reverse DNS that match. I allready anwered your question in alt.comp.mail.qmail some days ago. What is wrong with my answer? Gerrit. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] innominate AG the linux architects tel: +49.30.308806-0 fax: -77 http://www.innominate.com
Re: [Fwd: Administrivia: Move to EZMLM]
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:08:54AM +0200, Andre Oppermann wrote: Hehe, finally it worked out! :-) First Aleph1 didn't like qmail/ezmlm at all... but appearently there is nothing else out there which can do the job. Argh. Now I know why my bugtraq sublist was so quiet. Greetz, Peter.
Fwd: email with - in it????
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:03:27 +0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Lye On Siong Johnny [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: email with - in it Hi, I am pretty new to qmail, and current we just setup a new mail server. The scenario is as such. We have man user, eg support, support-mac, support-linux etc ... each of the mail account has it's own .qmail file. However, the problem is as such. when someone send a mail to eg support-error whereby this user doesnt exist, the mail is being send to support instead. How can i configure qmail such that if the email account does not exist, it should bounce the mail instead of sending it to support?? Thanks Johnny
queue life time
Dear All I would like to modify failure notice time queuelifetime to be 14400 ( 4 hours) instead of 604800 ( 7 days) should i just create a file named queuelifetime under /var/qmail/control directory and restart qmail or is there any additional processors I should follow regards Walid -- Best Regards Walid Kassab Technical Department Manager Palestinian Internet Services, Co., Ltd. http://www.p-i-s.com Tel. +9708-2843197 Fax +9708-2843377
Re: Fwd: email with - in it????
* Lye On Siong Johnny [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010514 12:40]: I am pretty new to qmail, and current we just setup a new mail server. The scenario is as such. We have man user, eg support, support-mac, support-linux etc ... each of the mail account has it's own .qmail file. However, the problem is as such. when someone send a mail to eg support-error whereby this user doesnt exist, the mail is being send to support instead. How can i configure qmail such that if the email account does not exist, it should bounce the mail instead of sending it to support?? Remove support's .qmail-default file... -Johan -- Johan Almqvist http://www.almqvist.net/johan/qmail/ PGP signature
bare linefeed problem by worm?
After the last worm incident we got many complaints that mail is not going through to us. A quick log check showed that many messages from affiliate companies are rejected because of bare linefeeds (we have a smtpd patch that logs this). Because the same companies were able to send mail to us before the worm attack (and also after that) I doubt they changed anything in their setup. Secondaries at our site are not involved (we have none). The sending systems are Microsoft Exchange 5.5 and Sendmail 8.11. It seems that they switch to bare linefeeds under load. Very mysterious. Did anyone see this affect too? Regards, Frank
alias to my self
In my times with sendmail I used to have an acount that had a .forward like this in my $HOME dir at domain1: # CUT HERE ### martin@domain1 martin@domain2 # CUT HERE ### So all my mail staid on my acount on domain1, but I had a copy in domain2. Now, how do I do this with qmail, because when I put a .qmail on my home with the 2 addresses (with the ), it delivers it to martin@domain2, but doesn't keep a copy in the local acount in domain1. It says it won't do it because it will loop. I understand the loop stuff, but why did it work on sendmail. Is there any workaround? Saludos... :-) -- El mejor sistema operativo es aquel que te da de comer. Cuida tu dieta. - Martin Marques |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programador, Administrador | Centro de Telematica Universidad Nacional del Litoral -
Re: bare linefeed problem by worm?
Frank Tegtmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did anyone see this affect too? Ups, there is a typo :) Frank means effect instead of affect. Regards, Markus
Re: tcpserver -p and smtpd and DNS
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:10:21AM -, David Killingsworth wrote: I have narrowed this to one simple item. Could someone, possibly you Gerrit I know you have answered one way to get around this I just wanna understand why I have to get around it, explain to me why qmail has delivered an email to me that contains the following header: Received: from unknown (HELO dali.onevision.de) (@212.77.172.50) by mail.myweb.net with SMTP; 14 May 2001 08:59:56 - I have tcpserver -DUvp wrapping smtpd for qmail. Shouldn't tcpserver drop the connection when $TCPREMOTEIP is DNS'd to a hostname and $TCPREMOTEHOST is DNS'd to an IP. if $TCPREMOTEIP can't be resolved or if $TCPREMOTEHOST can't be resolved, shouldn't this cause a FATAL in tcpserver? and it will drop the incoming connection? tcpserver *only* rejects connections if told to do so by the rules supplied with -x or -X. What rules have you tried? You should be able to get tcpserver to drop connections that do not have TCPREMOTEHOST set by putting these entries in your rules: =.:allow :deny Regards. David. On Mon, 14 May 2001 10:51:33 +0200, Gerrit Pape [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 06:30:44AM -, David Killingsworth wrote: I have been running qmail for about 8 months, It works great. So far I have not been able to resolve on problem. When an smtp connection comes in we only want to connect with servers who have forward and reverse DNS that match. I allready anwered your question in alt.comp.mail.qmail some days ago. What is wrong with my answer? Gerrit. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] innominate AG the linux architects tel: +49.30.308806-0 fax: -77 http://www.innominate.com
how to make pine works with maildir
i try to make pine works with maildir.. and i use freebsd4.1.1 release , pine4.31 and pine-4.31-maildir.patch . i get the error below when my machine compile the command ./build bsf cc: ../c-client/c-client.a: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/local/pine4.31/pine. Links to executables are in bin directory: /usr/libexec/elf/size: bin/pine: No such file or directory /usr/libexec/elf/size: bin/mtest: No such file or directory /usr/libexec/elf/size: bin/imapd: No such file or directory textdata bss dec hex filename 19077650846460 202320 31650 bin/pico 18875249566460 200168 30de8 bin/pilot what can i do to seattle this problem, thanks for advanced andi hari
Re: queue life time
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:54:30AM +, Walid Kassab wrote: Dear All I would like to modify failure notice time queuelifetime to be 14400 ( 4 hours) instead of 604800 ( 7 days) should i just create a file named queuelifetime under /var/qmail/control directory and restart qmail or is there any additional processors I should follow The best way to understand what to do after creating or changing a control file is to find out which commands are affected by the control file. To do this, have a look at the qmail-control manpage. It has a list of every control file and which command uses it. Once you know which command uses queuelifetime it's a simple matter of reading the man page for that command to find out the specifics regarding when that particular command notices the control file. In this particular case, the man page has a whole section called, oddly enough, CONTROL FILES. Regards. regards Walid -- Best Regards Walid Kassab Technical Department Manager Palestinian Internet Services, Co., Ltd. http://www.p-i-s.com Tel. +9708-2843197 Fax +9708-2843377
slow start tcpserver
Hi ALL! I decided try tcpserver program for qmail services (smtpd pop3d). It's work properly but sometimes tcpserver strarting very slow ( more than 30 sec ! ). When I used xinetd for starting qmail-smtpd qmail-pop3d I never must wait for starting it. --- /etc/rc.d/rc.qmail --- /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -H -R -v -u 514 -g 503 -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb 0 25 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd \ 2 /var/log/qmail-smtp.log /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -H -R -v -x /etc/tcp.pop3.cdb 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup mserver \ /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 2 /var/log/qmail-pop3.log --- end --- What I do wrong? Thx. -- Good Luck! Andriy T. Yanko
Logging of qmail to console
Hi all, I am somewhat of a newbie to qmail but I was wondering if anyone could help me figure out how to get qmail and qpop3 to log to a file instead of to the console screen. I know that this is an issue with tcpserver but I can't seem to find how to configure the logfile location. Thanks in advance, David Litke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Logging of qmail to console
I am somewhat of a newbie to qmail but I was wondering if anyone could help me figure out how to get qmail and qpop3 to log to a file instead of to the console screen. I know that this is an issue with tcpserver but I can\'t seem to find how to configure the logfile location. Use multilog for this. Read qmail manuals and www.lifewithqmail.org. B.R. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Eduardo Augusto Alvarenga - Analista de Suporte - #179653 Blumenau - Santa Catarina. Tel. (47) 9102-3303 http://www.netron.com.br/~eduardo -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: How to resend individual message?
Evelyn Huang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides, if I don't have a legitimate domain name, there is no way for me to test if the incoming messages from remote addresses work, right? No. If you have a publicly routeable IP address, I can send mail to your host by addressing it to postmaster@[1.2.3.4] or whatever. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Rebooting before sending mail
Hi. I have a problem: When my machine is rebooting/shutdown, I have set up a rc-script that sends a mailalert to the administrator that the machine has been rebooted. But the machine makes the reboot so fast that the mail never gets send. Any ideas to solve this little problem?
Re: Rebooting before sending mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I have a problem: When my machine is rebooting/shutdown, I have set up a rc-script that sends a mailalert to the administrator that the machine has been rebooted. But the machine makes the reboot so fast that the mail never gets send. Any ideas to solve this little problem? Make it send the mail as the first action in executing the shutdown script (before it kills any processes, switches runlevels, etc). Then insert a 30-second delay in the script. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: Rebooting before sending mail
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:32:47PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I have a problem: When my machine is rebooting/shutdown, I have set up a rc-script that sends a mailalert to the administrator that the machine has been rebooted. But the machine makes the reboot so fast that the mail never gets send. Any ideas to solve this little problem? Show us how you are sending mail from your boot scripts. While gathering that, mull over the possibility that /var/qmail/queue is mounted read only or unmounted, or /var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue is unmounted -- both of these conditions are show stoppers.
R: Rebooting before sending mail
Instead of sending mail, write a file elsewhere, and look for that file at reboot: if file is present, send mail and delete the file. Of course, you'll be warned of the reboot just after that. Anyway, if qmail starts with the machine, why the alert isn't in the queue? ---Cordiali saluti / Best regardsAndrea Cerrito^^Net.Admin @ Centro MultiMediale di Terni S.p.A.P.zzale Bosco 3A05100 Terni ITTel. +39 744 5441330Fax. +39 744 5441372 -Messaggio originale-Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Inviato: luned 14 maggio 2001 15.33A:Oggetto: Rebooting before sending mailHi. I have a problem: When my machine is rebooting/shutdown, I have set up a rc-script that sends a mailalert to the administrator that the machine has been rebooted. But the machine makes the reboot so fast that the mail never gets send. Any ideas to solve this little problem?
RE: Rebooting before sending mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I have a problem: When my machine is rebooting/shutdown, I have set up a rc-script that sends a mailalert to the administrator that the machine has been rebooted. But the machine makes the reboot so fast that the mail never gets send. Any ideas to solve this little problem? I know you don't ask it but what about mailing when the machine start up. Make it send the mail as the first action in executing the shutdown script (before it kills any processes, switches runlevels, etc). Then insert a 30-second delay in the script. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: [Fwd: Administrivia: Move to EZMLM]
Andre Oppermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First Aleph1 didn't like qmail/ezmlm at all... Permanent lobbying works after some time :) Regards, Frank
Who is List Manager
Hello. Can the list manager for [EMAIL PROTECTED] please send me a direct email? Please? I cannot unsubscribe, even with all the help the fine members of this reflector have given me. Thanks, Jim Darrough [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No mail arrival notice!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is no mail arrival notice while the message would show up in $HOME/Mailbox! What seems to be the problem? Thanks a lot!! That depends on the shell you are using. For bash set MAIL or MAILCHECK to $HOME/Mailbox. Regards, Frank
Re: tcpserver -p and smtpd and DNS
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 10:10:21AM -, David Killingsworth wrote: Shouldn't tcpserver drop the connection when $TCPREMOTEIP is DNS'd to a hostname and $TCPREMOTEHOST is DNS'd to an IP. if $TCPREMOTEIP can't be resolved or if $TCPREMOTEHOST can't be resolved, shouldn't this cause a FATAL in tcpserver? and it will drop the incoming connection? No. The docs say, tcpserver will remove $TCPREMOTEHOST in that case. it is on You (your proc tcpserver is running) to decide to drop the connection. Gerrit. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] innominate AG the linux architects tel: +49.30.308806-0 fax: -77 http://www.innominate.com
Re: Rebooting before sending mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But the machine makes the reboot so fast that the mail never gets send. Any ideas to solve this little problem? Send the mail when the machine comes up or watch it with another machine. Depending on the system type you may also delay the shutdown process within your script. Ensure that qmail is still running at this stage. Regards, Frank
Re: Logging of qmail to console
Thanks for the help, How do I tell qmail's log-functions script what log program to use? I can see where it looks for defaults but I don't know where it reads them from. I would be fine with just using syslog to dump everything to one mail file. Am I missing something obvious? Thanks in advance. At 08:40 AM 5/14/01 , Eduardo Augusto Alvarenga wrote: I am somewhat of a newbie to qmail but I was wondering if anyone could help me figure out how to get qmail and qpop3 to log to a file instead of to the console screen. I know that this is an issue with tcpserver but I can\'t seem to find how to configure the logfile location. Use multilog for this. Read qmail manuals and www.lifewithqmail.org. B.R. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Eduardo Augusto Alvarenga - Analista de Suporte - #179653 Blumenau - Santa Catarina. Tel. (47) 9102-3303 http://www.netron.com.br/~eduardo -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: Who is List Manager
Jim, Try sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope this helps.. Niles - Original Message - From: Jim Darrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:10 AM Subject: Who is List Manager Hello. Can the list manager for [EMAIL PROTECTED] please send me a direct email? Please? I cannot unsubscribe, even with all the help the fine members of this reflector have given me. Thanks, Jim Darrough [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Logging of qmail to console
How do I tell qmail's log-functions script what log program to use? I can see where it looks for defaults but I don't know where it reads them from. It's default read from stderr. I would be fine with just using syslog to dump everything to one mail file. Am I missing something obvious? Avoid using syslog. Multilog has many habilities that syslog can't handle. Use multilog, it's secure, runs chrooted, and rotates automatically. More info at: http://cr.yp.to/daemontools/multilog.html You can find some useful init scripts and all info you may need at: http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#start-qmail Best Regards, -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Eduardo Augusto Alvarenga - Analista de Suporte - #179653 Blumenau - Santa Catarina. Tel. (47) 9102-3303 http://www.netron.com.br/~eduardo -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: Handling high volume lists (was: Newbies vs. arrogant experts)
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 10:18:45AM +0200, Robin S. Socha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: · dupes (like, I am on this list and only a complete retard would send me a Cc: (which makes approx. 31 retards per month which, in return, makes me wonder when the prices for anti-personnel ammo will finally drop)). Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see a Mail-Followup-To header in your message. Are people supposed to guess whether or not you are on the list or whether or not you want a cc header listing your address so that your mail filter can handle the message differently. Since you made a point about not wanting cc's I manually removed it from this message.
OT - Problems with daemontools 0.70
I had no problems with installing this package until today... in make: ./compile tai64nlocal.c tai64nlocal.c: In function `main': tai64nlocal.c:54: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast tai64nlocal.c:55: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type tai64nlocal.c:56: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type tai64nlocal.c:57: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type tai64nlocal.c:58: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type tai64nlocal.c:59: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type tai64nlocal.c:60: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type make: *** [tai64nlocal.o] Error 1 does anyone know why this might be crashing??? Thanks for the help. Michael Geier CDM Sports Systems Administrator email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 314.991.1511 x 6505
Re: Logging of qmail to console
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:05:07PM -0300, Eduardo Augusto Alvarenga wrote: How do I tell qmail's log-functions script what log program to use? I can see where it looks for defaults but I don't know where it reads them from. It's default read from stderr. I would be fine with just using syslog to dump everything to one mail file. Am I missing something obvious? Avoid using syslog. Multilog has many habilities that syslog can't handle. Use multilog, it's secure, runs chrooted, and rotates automatically. multilog doesn't run chrooted. Greetz, Peter.
Re: OT - Problems with daemontools 0.70
Michael Geier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tai64nlocal.c:56: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type Change #include sys/time.h to #include time.h Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: OT - Problems with daemontools 0.70
Michael Geier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: tai64nlocal.c:55: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type Time to include it in the sig?
Re: Logging of qmail to console
David Litke: Thanks for the help, How do I tell qmail's log-functions script what log program to use? I can see where it looks for defaults but I don't know where it reads them from. I would be fine with just using syslog to dump everything to one mail file. Am I missing something obvious? Thanks in advance. Qmail has a very different concept for logging and management of processes in general. The basic idea is to use traditional Unix mechanisms as much as possible and to be as modular as possible which means, for instance, that qmail-start starts four processes, all of which perform a very specific task and, more pertaining to your question, all log to stdout. The idea is to use a special logging program that reads all their log messages from stdin and then does the actual logging. You give this programm plus its arguments as the second argument to qmail-start. Possible choices are splogger, a program that takes the messages and hands them over to syslog or multilog, which adds features like log rotation, maximal logsize and, most importantly, stability to the logging process. If you have an urgent desire to do something unusual (and highly desireable), like having all log messages show up as SMS messages on your mobile phone, no problem, just write a script/program that reads the messages from stdin and sends them on their way. Use this as the second argument to qmail-send ... Try reading up on it on http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html (Life with Qmail), look at the manual page of qmail-start and also have a look at the example startup scripts in /var/qmail/boot. regards, -- Joerg Lenneis email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT - Problems with daemontools 0.70
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 11:38:54AM -0500, Michael Geier wrote: I had no problems with installing this package until today... in make: ./compile tai64nlocal.c tai64nlocal.c: In function `main': tai64nlocal.c:54: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a does anyone know why this might be crashing??? Many people know. See, for example: URL:http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=logm=98874659608501w=2 or URL:http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=logm=98868025514431w=2 or URL:http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=logm=98756905027969w=2 (they're all the same answer). Vince.
Re: OT - Problems with daemontools 0.70
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 07:28:32PM +0200, Frank Tegtmeyer wrote: Michael Geier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: tai64nlocal.c:55: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type Time to include it in the sig? Time for a release that fixes it. Greetz, Peter.
RE: OT - Problems with daemontools 0.70
thanks to everyone who replied...worked great! next time I will check the archives a little better. 'preciate that no one flamed... -Original Message- From: Tim Holzmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 1:23 PM To: Michael Geier Subject: Re: OT - Problems with daemontools 0.70 I had the same problem, change the include file #include sys/time.h to #include time.h - Original Message - From: Michael Geier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Qmail Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:38 AM Subject: OT - Problems with daemontools 0.70 I had no problems with installing this package until today... in make: ./compile tai64nlocal.c tai64nlocal.c: In function `main': tai64nlocal.c:54: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast tai64nlocal.c:55: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type tai64nlocal.c:56: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type tai64nlocal.c:57: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type tai64nlocal.c:58: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type tai64nlocal.c:59: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type tai64nlocal.c:60: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type make: *** [tai64nlocal.o] Error 1 does anyone know why this might be crashing??? Thanks for the help. Michael Geier CDM Sports Systems Administrator email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 314.991.1511 x 6505
Re: No mail arrival notice!
Hi Evelyne, There is no mail arrival notice while the message would show up in $HOME/Mailbox! What seems to be the problem? check /var/qmail/control/defaultdelivery if the right deliveryform is set. After it check if you set the rights for the mailbox/maildir properly. Check the logfile about activities on your mailserver. If all above is ok and you only want informed that the mail was delivered correctly or be read by the receiving user you should set the nessesary option in your mua. I know that Pegasus Mail has included such options. Regards, Ruprecht
Re: OT - Problems with daemontools 0.70
* Peter van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010514 13:36]: On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 07:28:32PM +0200, Frank Tegtmeyer wrote: Michael Geier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: tai64nlocal.c:55: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type Time to include it in the sig? Time for a release that fixes it. Just install the 2.9 bugfix set... }:-
Qmail, IMAP, POP, OpenLDAP, PAM
Hi, I'm thinking about putting together a complete email system composed of the following items Qmail, IMAP, POP, OpenLDAP, and PAM. ie all components should check against OpenLDAP for authentication. Any words of wisdom? I can use some help with the PAM. I also am thinking about Maildir for Qmail, would I have to patch IMAP and POP to work with this? Also, if Maildir is used, would I risk running out of inodes before space on my file system? If so, any techniques in better designing the file system. For example how about breaking the disk to 1Gig file systems and block size of 1024 to reduce wasting disk space. Also, given Linux 2.4.x, is there any way to implement a faster raid5, ie the write should return as soon as the first mirror is done (not both) and the read would come from the first mirror (any of them). Thanks -- === Medi Montaseri, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 408-450-7114 Prepass Inc, IT/Operations, Software Eng. ===
Re: alias when?
Martín Marqués [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is this the right behaviour??? Yes, local users are preferred against aliases. Regards, Frank
Qmail + Mailman
Hello all. Although this may seem off-topic (regarding mailman) i think the problem here is more qmail'ish, so i thought of giving a try on this list too. I'm trying to make qmail work together with Mailman. Mailman comes with a python script for the purpose, that is called from a .qmail-default file under /var/mailman (mailman's user home dir), like this: |/user/bin/python /var/mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py. This script is supposed to eliminate the need to create any aliases files for the lists to work. Problem is, after any list created, i am able to receive administrative mail from the list (i.e. welcoming, password reminder, etc) and the addresses look fine, but when i send mail to the list, i see on the logs that qmail complains that it cannot found such mailbox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), but i do receive mail from testlist-owner and testlist-admin. I created a virtual domain for the lists as u can see (lists.domain.com) and added that domain to rcpthosts and an entry like this to virtualdomains: lists.domain.com:mailman. So, i'm not sure what the problem is and would appreciante some help, if any of you has mailman working with qmail using a virtual domain. (i didn't get any reply about this on the Mailman list :( TIA, Rodrigo Borges Pereira
Re: Handling high volume lists
* Bruno Wolff III [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 10:18:45AM +0200, Robin S. Socha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [dupes] Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see a Mail-Followup-To header in your message. Are people supposed to guess whether or not you are on the list or whether or not you want a cc header listing your address so that your mail filter can handle the message differently. Everyone here is on this list unless otherwise stated. Noone therefore wants Cc:s unless otherwise stated. How long have you been in a technical environment? Since you made a point about not wanting cc's I manually removed it from this message. You are one hell of a luser. ## lists adds a list of mailing lists addresses ## so mutt knows about these for showing them in the folder indes ## and to allow replying to them with the command list-reply. lists qmail -- Robin S. Socha - Your Worst Network Nightmare(tm). `In Germany, they are not referred to as network administrators. They prefer to be called Sons Of The Third Reich.' (Kate: www.katewerk.com)
Re: Qmail + Mailman
Rodrigo Borges Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to make qmail work together with Mailman. Mailman comes with a python script for the purpose, that is called from a .qmail-default file under /var/mailman (mailman's user home dir), like this: |/user/bin/python /var/mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py. This script is supposed to eliminate the need to create any aliases files for the lists to work. Problem is, after any list created, i am able to receive administrative mail from the list (i.e. welcoming, password reminder, etc) and the addresses look fine, but when i send mail to the list, i see on the logs that qmail complains that it cannot found such mailbox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), but i do receive mail from testlist-owner and testlist-admin. If user joe has a .qmail file named joe-default, it will control mail addressed to joe-foo and joe-bar, but _not_ just joe. His .qmail file named .qmail will control address joe. `man dot-qmail` for details. I suspect that simply symlinking .qmail-default to .qmail will fix your problems. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
smtp auth
I'm confused. I have a qmail server that I want to use as an outgoing smtp server. It has Solaris 8 - qmail 1.03 patched with smtp_auth patch version .30 and checkpasswd. I just need for sales guys to auth thru the server. I don't want to be an open relay. I can't get either outlook 2000 or netscape mail various versions to login. I have setup the run control file as outlined - I am using tcpserver - Again it won't let me auth. This is the important part do I need anything else running like pop. I just need to relay not accept mail for anyone. Thanks, Steve Hammond PLEASE redirect FLAMES toPACFIC GAS AND ELECTRIC OR EL PASO GAS COMPANY Here's the run file #!/bin/sh -xv QMAILDUID=`/usr/xpg4/bin/id -u qmaild` NOFILESGID=`/usr/xpg4/bin/id -g qmaild` MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming` exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 800 \ /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c $MAXSMTPD \ -u $QMAILDUID -g $NOFILESGID \ 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd webserv2.virtualpurchasecard.com \ /bin/cmd5checkpw /usr/bin/true | /var/qmail/bin/splogger smtpd 3 21
Qpopper and Qmail logging
I have been tasked with the need to log USERNAMES that are downloading pop. The reason is that we use both imap and pop here and want to phase out pop. So how can I create a log of all the people using POP (via qpopper) to access their mail (delivered with Qmail). (solaris). I can grep the syslog for pop and get REMOTE or LOCAL but it's ip based.. I need username based logging. anyone have any idea? I looked into multi-log but it seems much more in depth to implement than I was hoping for. -chad
Re: Who is List Manager
Same unsubscribe problems on djbdns mailing: 4 attempts failed! --Marco On 14-May-2001 Niles wrote: Jim, Try sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope this helps.. Niles - Original Message - From: Jim Darrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:10 AM Subject: Who is List Manager Hello. Can the list manager for [EMAIL PROTECTED] please send me a direct email? Please? I cannot unsubscribe, even with all the help the fine members of this reflector have given me. Thanks, Jim Darrough [EMAIL PROTECTED]
virtualdomains
Hi all i configured qmail on my server. i've got a big problem with virtual domain my configuration: virtualdomain: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:roberto rcpthosts: mylocaldomain.net mydomain.net in roberto's home there is a .qmail-info file in this file there is roberto if i send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the same server (echo to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject), roberto received correctly the email. this is the log file - May 14 23:50:27 phoenix qmail: 989884227.419504 new msg 323060 May 14 23:50:27 phoenix qmail: 989884227.420033 info msg 323060: bytes 222 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 456 uid 0 May 14 23:50:27 phoenix qmail: 989884227.453734 starting delivery 18: msg 323060 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] May 14 23:50:27 phoenix qmail: 989884227.454109 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 - if i send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from my workstation at home (and with my provider's mail server) the email not arrive !! i don't even received anything from mailer-daemon of my provider, and there is nothing in my mail logs file ! i'm sure that MX record on DNS in correctly configurated for mydomain.net any idee, links, suggestions is welcame :o)) many thanks Roberto
Re: Handling high volume lists
From: Robin S. Socha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 14 May 2001 22:30:00 +0200 * Bruno Wolff III [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 10:18:45AM +0200, Robin S. Socha [EMAIL PROTECTED] et wrote: [dupes] Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see a Mail-Followup-To header in your message. Are people supposed to guess whether or not you are on the list or whether or not you want a cc header listing your address so that your mail filter can handle the message differently. Everyone here is on this list unless otherwise stated. Noone therefore wants Cc:s unless otherwise stated. How long have you been in a technical environment? Since you made a point about not wanting cc's I manually removed it from this message. You are one hell of a luser. Cool... I'm glad I'm not the only one declared one hell of a luser by Robin this week! I'd hate to be the only one...it would make me feel soinadequate. I'd like to state for the record that I'm on the list and I want CC's because if I'm actually providing something useful to a conversation, the sooner I get the other side's messages, the sooner I can say something useful. I leave the headers unedited because that means the default behavior of most mail clients will be to do exactly what I want. I'm not cc'ing Robin even though he hasn't put the appropriate headers on his message because I see no need to accelerate his ability to flame me. (Besides, I'm already a luser, so what more do I have to luse?) Chris -- Chris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/ virCIO http://www.virCIO.Com 4314 Avenue C Austin, TX 78751-3709 +1 512 374 0500 My email address is an experiment in SPAM elimination. For an explanation of what we're doing, see http://www.DeepEddy.Com/tms.html Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft, but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft. PGP signature
Re: Qpopper and Qmail logging
You might not like this, but if all fails try this... close down port 110 and sit by the phone Chad Owens wrote: I have been tasked with the need to log USERNAMES that are downloading pop. The reason is that we use both imap and pop here and want to phase out pop. So how can I create a log of all the people using POP (via qpopper) to access their mail (delivered with Qmail). (solaris). I can grep the syslog for pop and get REMOTE or LOCAL but it's ip based.. I need username based logging. anyone have any idea? I looked into multi-log but it seems much more in depth to implement than I was hoping for. -chad -- === Medi Montaseri, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 408-450-7114 Prepass Inc, IT/Operations, Software Eng. ===
Re: Handling high volume lists
Everyone here is on this list unless otherwise stated. Noone therefore wants Cc:s unless otherwise stated. How long have you been in a technical environment? http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html You are one hell of a luser. pots, kettles, black jason
Re: tcpserver -p and smtpd and DNS
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 12:35:32PM +, Mark Delany wrote: =.:allow :deny Close. To achieve this, the tcp.smtp file should actually contain: =:allow :deny I just experimented with both forms. With the dot, nothing matched, including hosts with good forward/reverse resolvability. Without it, only sites for which tcpserver didn't unset TCPREMOTEHOST matched. This, of course, is exactly the desired behavior. As already mentioned in this thread, tcpserver -p unsets TCPREMOTEHOST when the name obtained by reverse lookup can't be resolved to the original IP. Consequently, for such an (arguably) undesirable client IP, no match occurs at the =:allow line in the above tcp.smtp settings, since the = token only matches when TCPREMOTEHOST is defined. The :deny line then rejects those undesirable clients as they fall through. Just to be thorough, even if obvious, I'll also mention that these two lines must appear LAST in your tcp.smtp file.
Difficulties with 'long-term' list responders
Frank Tegtmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Patrick Starrenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: saying that! What we were looking for was a solution or a pointer to the solution. I told you two times to try CET. Did you do it? No. It *is* the solution because it's your timezone. So where is the error in behaviour? When you are ignorant about provided help you shouldn't expect better answers when asking the same question again. Blaming Peter for not being polite is ridiculous. Frank Dear Frank You know - I could hit the keyboard and write back a real flame e-mail calling you things like a Unix (and qmail) bigot with a closed mind - but I won't. I will attempt to gently point out to you the problems in a number of statements both you and Peter have made. First of all I think it is important to understand that the fundamental difficulty arose here because of the belief on my part whereby when I looked at the Linux machine saying 17:02:55 GMT+2 I conceivably could believe that it was saying the time was 17 hours GMT plus two hours. But no, we (now) know that this is one of those 'gotchas' where plus two actually means *minus* two. We naturally should all immediately recognise this ?? logic. Well you immediately did didn't you? And you immediately advised me of this fact didn't you? You made the statement - If it says 17:22, it is *not* configured to GMT +0200. Try to set Timezone CET. It should say 19:22 then. in response to my problem. The client PC clock said 17:22 (+0200) correct time, the Linux box said 17:22 and is setup correctly with TZ = GMT +0200. Firstly it doesn't matter *what* time zone is chosen on the Linux box, even the mistaken time zone I had chosen of GMT+2, the machine *can* say for example 17:22 GMT+2 *and* be showing the correct time for the local time zone chosen. This is a separate issue to whether the time zone selected is the correct time zone for the physical location you are actually in. Also the key point is what was the **offset** to GMT for the time zone I had current on the machine at that time. A very simple command you can use in the future Frank is TZ=GMT date this will show you what the GMT time would be on a machine and we would have immediately seen that the time zone I had current at the time was two hours *before* GMT not two hours *after* contrary to what I believed. This would have verified that there was an error that needed to be fixed and pointed how to fix it. Secondly your statement it should say 19:22 is in error Frank, when I change the TZ from GMT +2 to Europe/Amsterdam (CEST) the clock jumps forward four hours, not two. I am not quite sure what you thought GMT +0200 was? And one reason I didnt change the time zone was I thought why would I want the Linux box to say 19:22 and the W2K box to say 17:22?? Didnt seem logical to me. Thats when I thought I would add some more information to help the discussion. You said, When you are ignorant about provided help you shouldn't expect better answers when asking the same question again. Well I am sorry Frank but you are wrong again in my second mail I cut and pasted the screen outputs from both my machines (as from my experience that sort of thing can often provide a clue) and that is when Mark Jefferys was immediately able to pin down the problem and not just provided better answers but the *solution*, he investigated communicated Frank. You just made one sided pronouncements. Now as regards Peter, well I am afraid that his help was even of less value then yours. Peter said in response to my first e-mail because it is the receiving MUA's task to display the date in the format the user desires. If your MUA is unable to do so, complain to the MUA author Your sending client should add a date header... Firstly I *explicitly* said in my first e-mail The MUA stamps the message with the correct Date: field value because I had read the discussion about that point in the qmail archive thread about this topic which I had read in full before posting my query to the list, I had carefully checked this. I guess Peter missed that in his eagerness to trot out an easy answer - blame someone else. Secondly after 'injecting' no value to the thread *and* no solution Peter said, I say we stop this thread. The user's box is misconfigured and he's failing to see why UTC in headers is good. Let it be. This was after he, just as quickly had agreed that the output from my Linux machine below was OK... *Linux box* [root@linuxbox patrick]# date Sun May 13 17:02:55 GMT+2 2001 - Check Yes So Frank, I guess he doesn't know about (or should I say he is ignorant of) the fact of Posix negative values for positive displayed Posix GMT offsets also! I am sure you have heard the term adding insult to injury well Peter :- completely missed a salient point in my original email, went off on a tangent, had no idea on how to solve the problem, gave no helful guidance then had the
Re: how to make pine works with maildir
andi wrote: i try to make pine works with maildir.. and i use freebsd4.1.1 release , pine4.31 and pine-4.31-maildir.patch . i get the error below when my machine compile the command ./build bsf cc: ../c-client/c-client.a: No such file or directory andi hari Did you run the configure script before applying the patch? Is pine4.31/c-client a symlink to pine4.31/imap/c-client? If you answered yes to both of these questions, try getting the source code for pine4.33 and the pine-4.33-maildir.patch (I have a copy of it up at http://unix-web.triton.net/~ennui/pine-maildir-4.33 ) and re-attempting with this version. -- Keith Network Engineer Triton Technologies, Inc.
Re: Handling high volume lists
* Robin S. Socha [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010514 17:13]: * Bruno Wolff III [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 10:18:45AM +0200, Robin S. Socha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [dupes] Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see a Mail-Followup-To header in your message. Are people supposed to guess whether or not you are on the list or whether or not you want a cc header listing your address so that your mail filter can handle the message differently. Everyone here is on this list unless otherwise stated. Noone therefore wants Cc:s unless otherwise stated. How long have you been in a technical environment? Robin, really. Last I checked the qmail mailing list made no such effort to determine whether or not a poster is subscribed. Even if it does, other lists (even technical ones!) don't. Lighten up man, go smoke some bud or something. /pg -- Peter Green : Architekton Internet Services, LLC : [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I'd rather be rich than stupid. (Jack Handey)
Re: Difficulties with 'long-term' list responders
* Patrick Starrenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010514 19:45]: Dear Frank You know - I could hit the keyboard and write back a real flame e-mail *plonk* /pg -- Peter Green : Architekton Internet Services, LLC : [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- If you're a horse, and someone gets on you, and falls off, and then gets right back on you, I think you should buck him off right away. (Jack Handey)
Qmail/SMTP Gateway for dial-up mail server
I have a situation where the following scenario has risen... LAN-LocalQMailServer-(Dial-up)Internet-- QmailGateway So I would like to create a qmail server that will store all of the emails for thisdomain.com and be the MX record in dns == QmailGateway (above) And configure the LocalQmailServer (above) which has all of the real email accounts on it to dial up to the internet and download all the email intended for thisdomain.com to itself and then deliver it locally. I have seen many ISP's that do this for companies so I know it can be done (at least with sendmail... but we wont go there!) So my real question is.. Can this be done with qmail? Does anyone know of any documentation on this type of setup? Any info you have would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, LP
Re: Who is List Manager
Thus said Niles on Mon, 14 May 2001 11:49:46 EDT: Jim, Try sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe you mean [EMAIL PROTECTED] My guess, however, is that he isn't on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list... Andy -- [---[system uptime]] 8:02pm up 5 days, 22:39, 5 users, load average: 1.22, 1.17, 1.13
Re: OT - Problems with daemontools 0.70
Thus said Michael Geier on Mon, 14 May 2001 13:39:10 CDT: 'preciate that no one flamed... Generally you won't get flamed for decent technical questions like this, however you might get flamed for using Microsoft Outlook to post your email. :-) Andy -- [---[system uptime]] 8:06pm up 5 days, 22:43, 5 users, load average: 1.24, 1.40, 1.25
RE: Qmail + Mailman
It did not work :( i keep getting this: May 15 01:55:12 picasso qmail: 989906112.543715 info msg 39916: bytes 647 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 3792 uid 101 May 15 01:55:12 picasso qmail: 989906112.555758 starting delivery 21: msg 39916 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] May 15 01:55:12 picasso qmail: 989906112.555948 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 May 15 01:55:12 picasso qmail: 989906112.556026 starting delivery 22: msg 39916 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] May 15 01:55:12 picasso qmail: 989906112.556092 status: local 2/10 remote 0/20 May 15 01:55:12 picasso smtpd: 989906112.557550 tcpserver: end 3790 status 0 May 15 01:55:12 picasso smtpd: 989906112.557754 tcpserver: status: 0/20 May 15 01:55:12 picasso qmail: 989906112.583466 delivery 21: success: did_0+0+0/ May 15 01:55:12 picasso qmail: 989906112.583675 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 May 15 01:55:12 picasso qmail: 989906112.583753 delivery 22: failure: Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/ getting desperate.. i would use ezmlm-idx.. but it lacks the fabulous web interface that mailman has. -Original Message- From: Charles Cazabon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: segunda-feira, 14 de Maio de 2001 22:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Qmail + Mailman Rodrigo Borges Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to make qmail work together with Mailman. Mailman comes with a python script for the purpose, that is called from a .qmail-default file under /var/mailman (mailman's user home dir), like this: |/user/bin/python /var/mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py. This script is supposed to eliminate the need to create any aliases files for the lists to work. Problem is, after any list created, i am able to receive administrative mail from the list (i.e. welcoming, password reminder, etc) and the addresses look fine, but when i send mail to the list, i see on the logs that qmail complains that it cannot found such mailbox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), but i do receive mail from testlist-owner and testlist-admin. If user joe has a .qmail file named joe-default, it will control mail addressed to joe-foo and joe-bar, but _not_ just joe. His .qmail file named .qmail will control address joe. `man dot-qmail` for details. I suspect that simply symlinking .qmail-default to .qmail will fix your problems. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: Handling high volume lists
Thus said Robin S. Socha on 14 May 2001 22:30:00 +0200: Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see a Mail-Followup-To header in your message. Are people supposed to guess whether or not you are on the list or whether or not you want a cc header listing your address so that your mail filter can handle the message differently. Everyone here is on this list unless otherwise stated. Noone therefore wants Cc:s unless otherwise stated. How long have you been in a technical environment? I disagree completely. There are many cases in which I have greatly appreciated a Cc on mailing lists on which I participate because they generally arrive much sooner than the mailing list answer does. This list especially has been known to have delays of up to at least 3 hours before emails that are sent actually show up in my mailbox. That doesn't help much when the critical problem has escalated and my hair has fallen out. It wouldn't be hard to configure your Gnus to add the mail-followup-to header for this list. Even though it isn't quite a standard and probably never will be, I know a lot of users on this list have software that respects it. I know mine does. Andy -- [---[system uptime]] 8:14pm up 5 days, 22:51, 5 users, load average: 1.11, 1.18, 1.20
cleaning mailbox
I'm not sure if this is a question for this list, but. I need to weekly clean the mailboxes of our users, this is mark as deleted all mails older then 10 days, for example, and expunge them from the mailbox (this with a determined mailbox, not necesarally tghe INBOX). Is this posible? Saludos... :-) -- El mejor sistema operativo es aquel que te da de comer. Cuida tu dieta. - Martin Marques |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programador, Administrador | Centro de Telematica Universidad Nacional del Litoral -
Re: cleaning mailbox
Martín Marqués wrote: No, thats not what I want. It a mailbox! I would need to trace the mailbox, slit the different mails and see the date line to decide if it should be deleted. But that is not so trivial. :-( Saludos... .-) Hmmm . . . switch to Maildir. You could prolly write a simple shell script (or a C program if you're feeling up to it) to accomplish this; but I cringe to think of how long it would take. -- Keith Network Engineer Triton Technologies, Inc.
Re: alias to my self
Martín Marqués [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, how do I do this with qmail, because when I put a .qmail on my home with the 2 addresses (with the ), it delivers it to martin@domain2, but doesn't keep a copy in the local acount in domain1. It says it won't do it because it will loop. If you want to forward a copy to another mail domain, and keep a copy on the local machine, you should be using one forward directive (address@fqdn) and one Maildir or mbox directive. `man dot-qmail` for details. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: alias to my self
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 09:04:46AM +0300, Martín Marqués wrote: In my times with sendmail I used to have an acount that had a .forward like this in my $HOME dir at domain1: # CUT HERE ### martin@domain1 martin@domain2 # CUT HERE ### So all my mail staid on my acount on domain1, but I had a copy in domain2. Now, how do I do this with qmail, because when I put a .qmail on my home with the 2 addresses (with the ), it delivers it to martin@domain2, Local delivery, by the time it gets to your .qmail file, should be to a Maildir or a mbox-type mailbox. Check your default delivery method (it is specified somehow on the command line for starting qmail-send), and try _something like_ the following: .qmail: ./Maildir/ martin@domain2 HTH, -- Greg White Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. -- John F. Kennedy
Re: cleaning mailbox
Martín Marqués [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to weekly clean the mailboxes of our users, this is mark as deleted all mails older then 10 days, for example, and expunge them from the mailbox (this with a determined mailbox, not necesarally tghe INBOX). If the messages are stored in Maildir format, this is trivial. Just delete every file under the Maildir that has a ctime (or possibly mtime) older than 10 days. You can easily find all such files with the find command. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon[EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions. ---
Re: cleaning mailbox
Quoting Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Martín Marqués [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to weekly clean the mailboxes of our users, this is mark as deleted all mails older then 10 days, for example, and expunge them from the mailbox (this with a determined mailbox, not necesarally tghe INBOX). If the messages are stored in Maildir format, this is trivial. Just delete every file under the Maildir that has a ctime (or possibly mtime) older than 10 days. You can easily find all such files with the find command. No, thats not what I want. It a mailbox! I would need to trace the mailbox, slit the different mails and see the date line to decide if it should be deleted. But that is not so trivial. :-( Saludos... .-) -- El mejor sistema operativo es aquel que te da de comer. Cuida tu dieta. - Martin Marques |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programador, Administrador | Centro de Telematica Universidad Nacional del Litoral -
alias when?
I found out that when I add alias in the alias directory (/var/qmail/alias/), as .qmail-acount, the alias works if the user has no HOMEDIR. Else, I have to put a .qmail in it home directory (this behavioru doesn't happen with root). Is this the right behaviour??? Saludos... :-) -- El mejor sistema operativo es aquel que te da de comer. Cuida tu dieta. - Martin Marques |[EMAIL PROTECTED] Programador, Administrador | Centro de Telematica Universidad Nacional del Litoral -
Re: alias when?
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:45:15PM +0300, Martín Marqués wrote: I found out that when I add alias in the alias directory (/var/qmail/alias/), as .qmail-acount, the alias works if the user has no HOMEDIR. Else, I have to put a .qmail in it home directory (this behavioru doesn't happen with root). Is this the right behaviour??? Yes. Greetz, Peter.
