Re: OK I give up!!!

2001-03-10 Thread Martin Randall

Hello Kurth

On 09-Mar-01, you wrote:


 
 yeppers - you forgot to read life with qmail. :-)
 
 
 Thanks for everybody's help. All of you folks are very helpful.
 
 thats why were here :-)
 
 
 
 Kirti


Don't just read it, print it out !!!

Install it from source as per the directions.

Regards...Martin
-- 
---
A guy sees a fat lady carrying a duck. The guy says, 
"What are you doing with that pig?" 
The fat lady snorts, "That's not a pig, it's a duck." 
The guy says, "I'm not talking to you, I'm talking to the duck."

 == Jack Carter





Re: (OT) DJB-itization

2001-02-21 Thread Martin Randall

Hello Carl

On 21-Feb-01, you wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 07:10:52AM -0500, [gill] wrote:
 
 Is there a better list to discuss this than the qmail list?
 
 Perhaps misc? [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 --Carl--
 http://slackerbsd.org

Yes, I mentioned this to DJB as well. I think I said advocacy but a way to
get all the djb program promotion and discussion on file system layout out
of the way of this list which is basically support.
Never heard anything and as far as I am aware, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] don't exist.

A pity, as they are needed to push these, what if, discussions off this
list.



Regards...Martin
-- 
---
As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error.

 == Weisert





Re: rblsmtpd

2001-01-29 Thread Martin Randall

Hello Mate

On 29-Jan-01, you wrote:

 I did note in the earlier mail that rblsmtpd is now in the ucspi-tcp
 program and has a -a query.  The only thing about this is why it
 says "anti-listed" instead of listed.
 
 
 Perhaps you want to read the docs for rblsmtpd for the meaning of the
 -a flag.
 
 Unpatched rblsmtpd blocks using TXT records.
 
 Mate
 

There isn't a man rblsmtpd. what other docs besides DJB's ucspi-tcp
(rblsmtmp)   http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp/rblsmtpd.html

Options: 
-r base: Use base as an RBL source. An IP address a.b.c.d is listed by that
source if d.c.b.a.
base has a TXT record. rblsmtpd uses the contents of the TXT record as an
error message for the client. 
-a base: Use base as an anti-RBL source. An IP address a.b.c.d is
anti-listed by that source if d.c
.b.a.base has an A record. In this case rblsmtpd does not block mail. 

This is the reference to :-

"The only thing about this is why it says "anti-listed" instead of listed."

That I made.  I am not sure why it says "anti-listed". As in not in the rbl.
It seems to be saying that if the IP matches then it's allowed.

I'd have thought that if they had changed their rbl listing from txt to
A-record, then doing a A-record against it and getting a result would be
"listed" and then qmail would deny the connection.

Obviously, I'm missing something here, but that section of the
ucspi-tcp/rblmstpd is just not clear.

Regards...Martin
-- 
"Good taste is better than bad taste, but bad taste is better than no
taste."

- Arnold Bennett.





Re: SOMEONE GET ME OFF THIS LIST

2001-01-29 Thread Martin Randall

Hello Henry

On 29-Jan-01, you wrote:

 haha. i sent email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] a few times 
 but i'm still getting mail messages from the list server
 
 :-)
 
 -henry

The same account as your using to post now ?
Your not multiple subscribed ?

Anyone can post to this list whether they are subscribed or not. (the bogus
mail was just verifying it).

So just because you can post doesn't mean anything.

Look at your headers.

Look for the X-Return-Path

This is mine.

X-Return-Path   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The username in my case is   marrandy  the domain  chaossolutions.org

What you see in your headers is the name AND domain you are subscribed to
the list under.

You need to unsubscribe from that account.

If your MTA is changing the domain from, for example I'll use mine, 
chaossolutions.org   to   mail.chaossolutions.org

that may be enough to prevent your unsubscription...something else to check.

Remember...it's what it says in that  X-Return-Path header that is critical.

Hope this helps.

Regards...Martin
-- 
A fool and his money are soon parted.





Re: rblsmtpd

2001-01-27 Thread Martin Randall

Hello Peter

On 25-Jan-01, you wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 02:06:58PM -0500, Martin Randall wrote:
 [snip]
 Whilst I'm hereI noticed that most mail servers connecting have
 cutomised greetings and endings during the  220, 250 and 221 responses. I
 searched the docs plus Dave Sills archives but couldn't find anything on
 this.
 
 man qmail-smtpd, look for smtpgreeting.
 
 Greetz, Peter.
 

Well there were twp partsto this, the main part the rblsmtpd and the
trivial/curious part, which is this.
Let me start with the rblsmtpd.

Here is a rbl log on another mail server.



Sat 2001-01-27 13:39:51: [1164:8057] EHLO mail02.osite.com.br
Sat 2001-01-27 13:39:51: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker checking 200.189.209.131 
using cache...
Sat 2001-01-27 13:39:51: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker checking 200.189.209.131 
using 131.209.189.200.dialups.mail-abuse.org...
Sat 2001-01-27 13:39:51: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker A-record resolution of 
[131.209.189.200.dialups.mail-abuse.org] in progress (DNS Server: 
216.136.29.250)...
Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:01: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker 10 second wait for DNS 
response exceeded
Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:01: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker checking 200.189.209.131 
using 131.209.189.200.rbl.maps.vix.com...
Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:01: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker A-record resolution of 
[131.209.189.200.rbl.maps.vix.com] in progress (DNS Server:
216.136.29.250)...
Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:02: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker checking 200.189.209.131 
using 131.209.189.200.relays.mail-abuse.org...
Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:02: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker A-record resolution of 
[131.209.189.200.relays.mail-abuse.org] in progress (DNS Server: 
216.136.29.250)...
Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:02: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker 
D=131.209.189.200.relays.mail-abuse.org TTL=(5) A=[127.0.0.2]
Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:02: [1164:8057] 550 mail from 200.189.209.131 refused 
by RSS, see http://www.mail-abuse.org/rss/
Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:03: [1164:8057] SMTP session abnormally terminated, 26 
bytes transferred.
Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:03: --



As you can see, it says it is doing A-record resolutions with the relevent
abuse locations.

I did note in the earlier mail that rblsmtpd is now in the ucspi-tcp program
and has a   -a  query.
The only thing about this is why it says   "anti-listed" instead of listed.

On my  second question which was about the 220, 221 etc. codes, Yes, I had
already tried putting something in SMTPGREETING.

What that gives me is (I've deleted most of the junk for brevity) :-

Sat 2001-01-27 13:38:15: [2356:8055] 220 How's it hanging ? ESMTP
Sat 2001-01-27 13:38:15: [2356:8055] EHLO chaossolutions.org
Sat 2001-01-27 13:38:15: [2356:8055] 250-How's it hanging ?
SNIP
Sat 2001-01-27 13:38:15: [2356:8055] 221 How's it hanging ?
Sat 2001-01-27 13:38:15: [2356:8055] SMTP session successful, 675 bytes 
transferred.

As you can see, it gives the same text string for 220, 221 and 250 ie the
smtpgreeting.
Wheras, other pople customise the strings which is what I was asking about.


Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:30: [2608:7809] 220 smtp2.home.se Novonyx SMTP ready 
$Revision:   2.74  $
Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:30: [2608:7809] EHLO chaossolutions.org
Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:32: [2608:7809] 250-smtp2.home.se Pleased to meet you
Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:44: [2608:7809] 221 smtp2.home.se So long, and thanks 
for all the fish



Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:34: [2228:7803] 250 warrior-inbound - Plus.Net, The 
smarter way to Internet -
Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:43: [2228:7803] 250 ok 980592233 qp 27053
Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:43: [2228:7803] QUIT
Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:49: [2228:7803] 221 warrior-inbound - Plus.Net, The 
smarter way to Internet -


Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:37: [2444:7858] 250-post.it.helsinki.fi Hello 
server.chaossolutions.org [216.136.109.158] (may be forged), pleased to 
meet you. Unless you are a SPAMmer
Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:38: [2444:7858] 250 2.1.0 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sender looks kinda ok
Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:50: [2444:7858] 250 2.0.0 f0RAhmx20818 Message 
accepted for delivery. Lucky you
Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:50: [2444:7858] QUIT
Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:51: [2444:7858] 221 2.0.0 post.it.helsinki.fi closing 
connection. Nice meeting you


Anyway, this part I was just curious about. The main bit was/is the
rblsmtpd. Please refer back to my original mail if you are confused.

Regards...Martin
-- 
Ah, Blackadder. Notice anything...unusual?
Yes, sir. It's eleven thirty in the morning, and you're moving about.
  Is the bed on fire?

 == George and Edmund : Duel and Duality





Re: rblsmtpd

2001-01-25 Thread Martin Randall

Hello Chris

On 25-Jan-01, you wrote:

 
 I think this last entry requires a patched rbslmptd. You could instead
 use:
 
 -r relays.msci.memphis.edu
 
 relays.msci.memphis.edu is a mirror of relays.mail-abuse.org, but it runs
 Dan's rbldns and gives out the TXT record that rblsmtpd needs.
 
 Chris
 

Funny, I was just about to look at rblsmtpd later today or this evening. 
Apparently the records changed from txt to ?? last August. 
I was hoping that as ucspi-tcp had been overhauled and rblsmtpd is now
within it, at 0.88 this inter-operability problem had been fixed.
What is the status of this problem ?
Further, what's the   -a   option all about ?

Whilst I'm hereI noticed that most mail servers connecting have
cutomised greetings and endings during the  220, 250 and 221 responses. I
searched the docs plus Dave Sills archives but couldn't find anything on
this.

Just curious...


Regards...Martin
-- 
1) If you have to ask, you're not entitled to know.
2) If you don't like the answer, you shouldn't have asked.

 == Abbott's Law





unable to read tcp.smtp.cdb: protocol error

2001-01-19 Thread Martin Randall

Hello.

This is a new install on OpenBSD V2.8 following LWQ...thanks Dave.  Fixed
one problem by getting a hint from the searchable archive, thanks again
Dave Sill, there is some info on this problem there, but not enough to fix
it or know WHY it has happened. Looking for a clue here  :-)  How do I
setup the cdb or is this a perm problem ???

Evetything else seems to be running e.g.

top

load averages:  0.31,  0.19,  0.081;72H11:33:48
27 processes:  1 running, 26 idle
CPU states: % user, % nice, % system, % interrupt, %
idle
Memory: Real: 5148K/13M act/tot  Free: 13M  Swap: 4K/133M used/tot

  PID USERNAME PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATE WAIT TIMECPU COMMAND
 9364 root   20  300K  884K idle  select   0:00  0.00% sshd
23144 marrandy  180  376K  296K idle  pause0:00  0.00% sh
31878 root  180  324K  248K sleep pause0:00  0.00% csh
 7683 root   20   96K  420K idle  select   0:00  0.00% syslogd
14062 qmails 20  100K  436K idle  select   0:00  0.00% qmail-send
17930 root  100   68K  396K sleep nanosl   0:00  0.00% svscan
22702 qmaill-60   36K  344K idle  piperd   0:00  0.00% multilog
26530 qmaild 20   60K  448K idle  netcon   0:00  0.00% tcpserver
28675 qmaill-60   36K  344K idle  piperd   0:00  0.00% multilog
 9487 qmailq-60   36K  372K idle  piperd   0:00  0.00% qmail-clean
17133 root   20   44K  380K idle  select   0:00  0.00% qmail-lspawn
 4006 root  180  324K  252K sleep pause0:00  0.00% csh
1 root  100  332K  204K idle  wait 0:00  0.00% init
30092 qmailr 20   40K  348K idle  select   0:00  0.00% qmail-rspawn
12138 root   30   92K  460K sleep ttyin0:00  0.00% script
30731 root   20   24K  364K idle  poll 0:00  0.00% supervise
22284 root   20   24K  364K idle  poll 0:00  0.00% supervise
 2763 root   20   24K  364K idle  poll 0:00  0.00% supervise
17832 root   20   24K  364K idle  poll 0:00  0.00% supervise


I suppose syslogd should be there if it's beiing used by other
processorsor not ??

ps aux

USER   PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ   RSS TT   STAT STARTED   TIME COMMAND
root 20650  0.0  0.8   284   252 p0  R+11:34AM0:00.00 ps -aux 
root  7683  0.0  1.396   420 ??  Is11:32AM0:00.06 syslogd 
root 16728  0.0  1.352   400 ??  Is11:32AM0:00.00 inetd 
root  9364  0.0  2.8   300   884 ??  Is11:32AM0:00.28
/usr/sbin/ssh
root 17930  0.0  1.268   396 C0- S 11:32AM0:00.02 svscan 
root 24223  0.0  1.5   224   492 ??  Ss11:32AM0:00.01 cron 
root  2763  0.0  1.124   364 C0- I 11:32AM0:00.01 supervise
qma
root 22284  0.0  1.124   364 C0- I 11:32AM0:00.01 supervise
log
root 17832  0.0  1.124   364 C0- I 11:32AM0:00.01 supervise
qma
root 30731  0.0  1.124   364 C0- I 11:32AM0:00.01 supervise
log
qmaill   22702  0.0  1.136   344 ??  I 11:32AM0:00.02
/usr/local/bi
qmaill   28675  0.0  1.136   344 ??  I 11:32AM0:00.01
/usr/local/bi
qmails   14062  0.0  1.4   100   436 ??  I 11:32AM0:00.04 qmail-send

marrandy 23144  0.0  0.9   376   296 C0  Is11:32AM0:00.14 -sh (sh)
root 31241  0.0  1.544   468 C1  Is+   11:32AM0:00.01
/usr/libexec/
root 11946  0.0  1.544   468 C2  Is+   11:32AM0:00.01
/usr/libexec/
root 18579  0.0  1.544   468 C3  Is+   11:32AM0:00.01
/usr/libexec/
root 15164  0.0  1.544   468 C5  Is+   11:32AM0:00.01
/usr/libexec/
qmaild   26530  0.0  1.460   448 ??  I 11:32AM0:00.02
/usr/local/bi
root 17133  0.0  1.244   380 ??  I 11:32AM0:00.01
qmail-lspawn 
qmailr   30092  0.0  1.140   348 ??  I 11:32AM0:00.01
qmail-rspawn 
qmailq9487  0.0  1.236   372 ??  I 11:32AM0:00.01
qmail-clean 
root 31878  0.0  0.8   324   248 C0  I 11:33AM0:00.13 -csh (csh)
root 12138  0.0  1.492   460 C0  S+11:33AM0:00.01 script 
root 30100  0.0  1.3   104   400 C0  S+11:33AM0:00.01 script 
root  4006  0.0  0.8   324   252 p0  Ss11:33AM0:00.01 -bin/csh
-i 
root 1  0.0  0.7   332   204 ??  Is11:32AM0:00.01 /sbin/init


From /usr/local/sbin/qmail

SNIP

cdb)
tcprules /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /etc/tcp.smtp.tmp  /etc/tcp.smtp
chmod 644 /etc/tcp.smtp*
echo "Reloaded /etc/tcp.smtp.
echo "Reloaded /etc/tcp.smtp."

SNIP

/etc

-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel 52 Jan 19 04:39 tcp.smtp

No /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb

Where do I go from here ?


Regards...Martin
-- 
"20 scared-out-of-their-gourds 3 or 4-year olds is an example of what I'd
like to do to some of you who are really getting on my nerves."





Re: unable to read tcp.smtp.cdb: protocol error

2001-01-19 Thread Martin Randall

Hello Dave

On 19-Jan-01, you wrote:

 SNIP
 
 /etc
 
 -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel 52 Jan 19 04:39 tcp.smtp
 
 No /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb
 
 Where do I go from here ?
 
 Did you skip the step where you do:
 
  /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb
 
 -Dave
 

No, did that twice. When I did a   vi /etc/tcp.smtp   I found two identical
entries  of 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
had to   dd  one of them.

Hmmm...on second thoughts, I wonder if I entered it all on one line ?

Would that make a difference ?

I'll try it as two separate commands from the shell.


Regards...Martin
-- 
Adam West is tied to a giant waffle iron!  How will he escape?





Re: unable to read tcp.smtp.cdb: protocol error

2001-01-19 Thread Martin Randall

Hello Martin

On 19-Jan-01, you wrote:
 No /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb
 
 Where do I go from here ?
 
 Did you skip the step where you do:
 
  /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb
 
 -Dave
 
 
 No, did that twice. When I did a vi /etc/tcp.smtp I found two identical
 entries of 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" had to dd one of them.
 
 Hmmm...on second thoughts, I wonder if I entered it all on one line ?
 
 Would that make a difference ?
 
 I'll try it as two separate commands from the shell.


That was it !  duh...mental overload, too much reading. Don't know why I did
that.

O.K. - it's taken two mails from another server that were queued.
/var/log/qmail/current  shows them being processed.

Will study some more now. 

I need to have pop3d running via tcpserver from supervise/svscan.
Want to add APOP.
rblsmtp
Play some more with dameontools, then qmailananlog.

Then add  Publicfile or djbdns for this active machine/domain.

This is good. 

There's a big difference for me from   'playing'  with these programs  on a
computer inside or even disconnected from the lan and actually having it on
it's own external IP with domain name.
Separating the docs so you don't get confused by mixing them together is
also very important.

Anyway, more testing to do...thanks everyone.

Regards...Martin
-- 
A dress makes no sense unless it inspires men to want to take it off you.





tcpserver

2001-01-15 Thread Martin Randall

Hello.

I have a basic qmail installation following the install notes from the
tarball. I have decided to add all the other djb programs so it will be a
djbware machine.

Passes all the test and works fine out of inetd. Added checkpassword and
set-up pop3d. All tested and works fine.

Oh, two questions :-

1)   Why isn't apop available in Dan's checkpassword/qmail. APOP may not be
prefect, but plain text is totally unsecure.
2)   On checking the qmail.org and links from the checkpassword docs, there
seems to be 3 or 4 implementations of APOP/checkpassword. Which one, in
peoples opinion, should I use ?

Installed the latest ucspi-tcp and damontools.

I have printed and read Dave Sills life with qmail, but wanted to add and
work through in stages as I add each program as I want to learn the
intricacies of the system, not just have it all running without
comprehension.

No examples given for qmail in the tcpsever docs. No man ucspi-tcp, no man
tcpserver.

Looked in the qmail FAQ and found #5.1.

o.k. - it says   "remove smtp from /etc/inetd.conf"  - no way. Remmed it
out.

put line :-

tcpserver -u 7770 -g 2108 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 

changed 7770 to 7791 which is my qmaild. Not sure why 7791 wasn't used as
default as that's what's is described in the IDS, but o.k. - but hey, big
deal. - Reboot required. (Is that it ??? nothing else mentioned)

Barfs on reboot with :-

tcpserver/-u: *:ai_socketype not suported

which is Greek to me.

I know that Dave Sills docs mentions cdb and tcp rules etc. but this isn't
mentioned in Dan's qmail FAQ, so I don't know where to go from here.

I searched through about 150 of the archived qmail lsit files but didn't see
this problem.

Pointers please.

Regards...Martin
-- 

---

All the wastes in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a
desk.
 -- Ronald Reagan, quoted in "Burlington Free Press", 15 February 1980





Re: tcpserver

2001-01-15 Thread Martin Randall

This should have gone to the list.
--
Hello joshua

On 15-Jan-01, you wrote:

 Martin Randall wrote:
 o.k. - it says   "remove smtp from /etc/inetd.conf"  - no way. Remmed it
 out.
 
 put line :-
 
 tcpserver -u 7770 -g 2108 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 
 
 you didn't put that line into inetd.conf, did you?
 

Oh brown !!!

Sensory overload. I've been reading a ton of docs and missed
that...sigh...Thanks for kick in the pants.

System startup files aka rc.local in OpenBSD.

Regards...Martin
sb

---

9. Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for.
 -- One of 21 Thoughts to Get You Through Almost Any Crisis





Re: tcpserver

2001-01-15 Thread Martin Randall

So should this - sorry I'm stressed out
--
Hello James

On 15-Jan-01, you wrote:

SNIP

 
 you didn't put that line into inetd.conf, did you?
 
 Well that's a useful reply. Sheesh.
 
 Anyways, Martin, that shouldn't go into /etc/inetd.conf. That line
 should go into your system's boot up scripts. /etc/rc.local or something
 similar.
 Or, by far the easiest way is to follow the Life with Qmail
 directions and use svscan/supervise. See #http://www.lifewithqmail.org/#
 
 
 james


Yes, probably, but there is a lot of info packed into Life with qmail that I
don't follow/understand even though it obviously works. 

I do have it printed out for reference, but the way I am thinking (rightly
or wrongly) is if I install the tarballs one at a time and follow the
instructions and try the other notes etc. I will learn it more deeply and
thoroughly.

For me, this is training as opposed to getting something up and running
ASAP.

I just want to go beyond the basic qmail install that I have used on an
internal test machine for a couple of years. I have a external IP and
domain to test and play for real now and have just installed OpenBSD 2.8
onto a clean machine.

Once I'm happy with ucspi-tcp, then daemontools is next although I'd like
APOP going and tested first. After that, djbdns etc. etc. - like I said,
this is going to be a DJBware machine.

Regards...Martin
sb

---

A deadline is negative inspiration. Still, it's better than
no inspiration at all.
 -- Rita Mae Brown
 -- Starting from Scratch: A Different Kind of Writer's Manual





Re: tcpserver

2001-01-15 Thread Martin Randall

Hello James

On 15-Jan-01, you wrote:


 
 Perhaps, but there's more scope for confusion. The INSTALL* docs in the
 qmail tarball and LWQ do not describe the same installation process. You
 will have a different setup depending on which you follow so switching
 between them is likely to cause much hassle. I'd suggest using LWQ - the
 qmail INSTALL docs were written before the latest features of
 daemontools existed.
 

O.K. - I'll consider it. LikeI said, I'm trying to learn it as opposed to
getting it up and running ASAP.
I have noticed stuff like Dan says mkdir /supervise whereas LWQ has
references to /var/qmail/supervise. Still I'd like to follow Dan's
methodology.

Something about Maildir.

I edited /var/qmail/rc and replaced   ./Mailbox with ./Maildir/   but when I
create new usrs, Maildir isn't created in their /home

I have had to log in as them on a different console   

cd  /var/qmail/bin
maildirmake $HOME/Maildir
echo ./Maildir/  ~/.qmail

This then creates the .qmail and Maildir in their /home.

Why isn't the skel working ?  Obviously I'm missing something.
 
Anyone have any opinions on which checkpassword is best for APOP ?

Regards...Martin
sb

---

A cat is, above all things, an ingredient of Chop Suey.





Re: tcpserver

2001-01-15 Thread Martin Randall

Hello Kris

On 15-Jan-01, you wrote:

SNIP

 
 I take it a .qmail file is also required in /etc/skel.
 
 Not really.  If all of your users require the same delivery instructions,
 then those instructions should be part of qmail-start's "defaultdelivery"
 argument, presumably in the /var/qmail/rc script.  A user needs a ".qmail"
 file when that user desires a delivery method that is not the default.
 

Yes, that's already there...thanks.


 What perms are these files in /etc/skel supposed to be ?
 
 700 permissions for all relevant directories (Maildir, Maildir/cur,
 Maildir/new, Maildir/tmp) is ideal. qmail will allow for a wide variety of
 permissions on the Maildir, but nobody else should be reading a user's
 email anyway.
 

Great !  Getting used to searching the srchives now. Have the info I need on
APOP.


 3PO!  You tell that worm ridden piece of filth he'll get no such pleasure
 from us!  ..  Right...?
 -- Skywalker (Star Wars)
 
 Han Solo said that, actually.
 

Hmmmwill have to search the cookies file, it's 164KB long.

search cookies.text Skywalker

wait 2 to 3 secs   line 1387

edited...thanks

 ---Kris Kelley
 
 

Regards...Martin
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 Caving in to a target marketing strategy aimed at oneself
after holding out for a long period of time. "Oh, all right, I'll buy
your stupid cola. Now leave me alone."
 -- Douglas Coupland, Generation X





Re: A firestorm of protest?

2001-01-15 Thread Martin Randall

Hello qmailers  :-)

Let's just leave it as it is and if you want to call them something, then

qmail non-standard extensions.

I'm sure Dan is concerned that these extensions can introduce security
concerns, not because of your programming, but the environments they will
be working in/with.
Perhap's he feels this could reflect on qmail's good name, or the multitude
of associated doc's can confuse and fragment, something he is keenly aware
of. 
That's why (ideally) he wants everything installed in exactly the same
locations no matter what Un*x version it's installed on.

What caused this rumpus anyway ?

Regards...Martin
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2 Watch. How if a' will not stand?
Dogb. Why, then, take no note of him, but let him go; and presently
call the rest of the watch together, and thank God you are rid of
a knave.
 -- William Shakespeare (1564-1616), Much Ado about Nothing
 -- Act iii, Sc. 3





RE: CST17030532ID - OK so I eat spam (fwd) (fwd)

2000-10-08 Thread Martin Randall

*** Begin of forwarded message ***

Date: 08-Oct-00 12:05:58
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CST17030532ID - OK so I eat spam (fwd)

--- Forwarded message follows ---


Hello marrandy,

Thank you for writing to MSN Hotmail.
We have closed the account in question because of a violation of our Terms
Of Service (TOS).
You can read our TOS at:
http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/dasp/hminfo_shell.asp?content=tos
Hotmail has comprehensive online help available to you. For more information
on Hotmail features, functions, and issues, click the "Help" button on the
horizontal navigation bar.

We hope that this e-mail has provided you with the assistance you needed.

Sincerely,

Neovanni
MSN Hotmail Customer Support


Hello. this person is spamming the qmail mailing list.

They are also, apparently, harvesting list addresses

Date: 08-Oct-00 06:48:22
From: Wheres Mybrudda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OK so I eat spam

--- Forwarded message follows ---


OK I will admit it

SNIP

*** End of forwarded message ***

Regards...Martin
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the first one was useless.
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Re: What programming language to use with qmail?

2000-08-05 Thread Martin Randall

Hello Thomas

On 05-Aug-00, you wrote:

 Let me rephrase my question about building an e-commerce app for PayPal.
 
 I want incoming e-mail to activate a program that looks at what's in the
 e-mail, then does something (e-mailing a file) in response to what is in
 the e-mail.
 
 My hosting service uses qmail. What's the best language for my
 application?
 

REBOL

http://www.rebol.com


Regards...Martin
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Failure to add groups etc via VIPW OpenBSD V2.6

2000-04-23 Thread Martin Randall

Hello. This may be just a OpenBSD problem...I'm not sure.

When I add this and try and write, it says it is corrupted, but for the life of me, I 
can't see why.

Anyone else with OpenBSD ?

Regards...Martin
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Second mail server

2000-04-22 Thread Martin Randall

Hello.

I want to run a second mail server.

I'm curious of how you do this.

I know about the MX, but if the accounts are on the primary mail server, and it goes 
down, how do you ensure the the accounts and mail are duplicated on the second sever.

Does that make sense ?


Regards...Martin
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A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any
hereditary propensity toward fanaticism.
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dans web site at cr.yp.to

2000-04-13 Thread Martin Randall

Hello. The site is back now although I haven't received the original mail yet.

Perhap's the were down ?

Martin

--- 

I wanted to look at Dan's web pages linking from the qmail.org site.

I get nothing back from clicking on the links.

Tried with two ISP's.

It was working last week.

What's going on ?


Regards...Martin
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(A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?
 Microsoft

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Regards...Martin
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An English judge, growing weary of the barrister's long-winded
summation, leaned over the bench and remarked, "I've heard your
arguments, Sir Geoffrey, and I'm none the wiser!"  Sir Geoffrey
responded, "That may be, Milord, but at least you're better informed!"





dans web site at cr.yp.to

2000-04-13 Thread Martin Randall

Hello.

I wanted to look at Dan's web pages linking from the qmail.org site.

I get nothing back from clicking on the links.

Tried with two ISP's.

It was working last week.

What's going on ?


Regards...Martin
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(A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail?
 Microsoft





Re: HTML mail considered harmful

2000-04-12 Thread Martin Randall

Hello Scott

On 12-Apr-00, you wrote: 

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 
 
 (1) I complained about a guy's 17 line signature that could
 be compressed down to 4 lines... he complained about my 9
 line PGP signature.  clue.
 
 (2) I have already seen html email that has jabbascript that "decodes"
 the content of the message.  I assume this was done to try to get around
 some sort of string based filtering.
 
 Scott


So why don't you just put the pgp sig on your personal web site and a link ;-)


Regards...Martin
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hours are lost.
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Off-topic, but I've been curious about this for a long time

2000-03-29 Thread Martin Randall

Hello.

What is the difference between mail sent from my masqueraded/NAT server to my ISP's 
mail server and my MUA masqueraded/NAT mail to their server ?

I'm wondering as the server is now getting   '550 relaying to user is not allowed' , 
but when I send the same mail from the mua it does go out. I was using them as a smart 
host as I have a dedicated connection.

Regards...Martin
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Any given program costs more and takes longer each time it is run.
 -- The Second Law of Computer Programming





Re: Encryption and t-shirts

2000-02-25 Thread Martin Randall

Hello Dave

On 25-Feb-00, you wrote: 


 
 Front: "Don't queue mail with sendmail"
 Back: "Send mail with qmail"
 

That ones great.

You going to put that in the public domain so people can reproduce it ?

Regards...Martin
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and are the portals of discovery.
 -- James Joyce, "Ulysses"




Re: workaround for port 25 block? (fwd)

2000-02-05 Thread Martin Randall

Hello Brian


No need to send to me as well. I'm on the list.

On 05-Feb-00, you wrote: 

 hi,
 
 actually those rules are very regional. 


Damn (excuse my French), I'm in the wrong region then. Tampabay is a pain.


 In Rochester it is not against the
 AUP to run web servers, ftp, game servers ... etc. That is of course,
 assuming you are not doing anything illegal. If you are taking up to much
 bandwidth, they will throttle your modem. Period. (having worked there, i
 know how they operate)


You lucky, lucky. (you know what). I'm jealous.


0 
 but i did look up the business rates (when i worked there they hadnt started
 offering business service yet) and they wanted roughly $700 a month for the
 same service i get now. sorry, that i will not do.
 


Yes, Tell me about it.

I even tried to appeal to their kind nature saying that I just wanted to do some free 
mailing lists and web pages supporting those lists, i.e. giving back to the internet 
community. - No joy.


 
 brian

Regards...Martin
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Re: spammer lurking

2000-01-28 Thread Martin Randall

Hello Jim

On 28-Jan-00, you wrote:

 This list is definitely being used to harvest e-mail addresses.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 and
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Are two of the addresses from which I supposedly received mail on this
 address, which obviously I only used for subscription to this list.
 
 I'm not on the list at the moment, if anyone needs to write to me about
 this I will still get your mail at this address.
 
 I hate spam.
 

It could be happening at the archive at :-
   ~
http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists

They haven't stripped the e-mail addresses out. 
I wonder what they are using to store them.
Most archivers have an option to do this.

Regards...Martin
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