Re: OK I give up!!!
Hello Kurth On 09-Mar-01, you wrote: yeppers - you forgot to read life with qmail. :-) Thanks for everybody's help. All of you folks are very helpful. thats why were here :-) Kirti Don't just read it, print it out !!! Install it from source as per the directions. Regards...Martin -- --- A guy sees a fat lady carrying a duck. The guy says, "What are you doing with that pig?" The fat lady snorts, "That's not a pig, it's a duck." The guy says, "I'm not talking to you, I'm talking to the duck." == Jack Carter
Re: (OT) DJB-itization
Hello Carl On 21-Feb-01, you wrote: On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 07:10:52AM -0500, [gill] wrote: Is there a better list to discuss this than the qmail list? Perhaps misc? [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Carl-- http://slackerbsd.org Yes, I mentioned this to DJB as well. I think I said advocacy but a way to get all the djb program promotion and discussion on file system layout out of the way of this list which is basically support. Never heard anything and as far as I am aware, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] don't exist. A pity, as they are needed to push these, what if, discussions off this list. Regards...Martin -- --- As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error. == Weisert
Re: rblsmtpd
Hello Mate On 29-Jan-01, you wrote: I did note in the earlier mail that rblsmtpd is now in the ucspi-tcp program and has a -a query. The only thing about this is why it says "anti-listed" instead of listed. Perhaps you want to read the docs for rblsmtpd for the meaning of the -a flag. Unpatched rblsmtpd blocks using TXT records. Mate There isn't a man rblsmtpd. what other docs besides DJB's ucspi-tcp (rblsmtmp) http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp/rblsmtpd.html Options: -r base: Use base as an RBL source. An IP address a.b.c.d is listed by that source if d.c.b.a. base has a TXT record. rblsmtpd uses the contents of the TXT record as an error message for the client. -a base: Use base as an anti-RBL source. An IP address a.b.c.d is anti-listed by that source if d.c .b.a.base has an A record. In this case rblsmtpd does not block mail. This is the reference to :- "The only thing about this is why it says "anti-listed" instead of listed." That I made. I am not sure why it says "anti-listed". As in not in the rbl. It seems to be saying that if the IP matches then it's allowed. I'd have thought that if they had changed their rbl listing from txt to A-record, then doing a A-record against it and getting a result would be "listed" and then qmail would deny the connection. Obviously, I'm missing something here, but that section of the ucspi-tcp/rblmstpd is just not clear. Regards...Martin -- "Good taste is better than bad taste, but bad taste is better than no taste." - Arnold Bennett.
Re: SOMEONE GET ME OFF THIS LIST
Hello Henry On 29-Jan-01, you wrote: haha. i sent email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] a few times but i'm still getting mail messages from the list server :-) -henry The same account as your using to post now ? Your not multiple subscribed ? Anyone can post to this list whether they are subscribed or not. (the bogus mail was just verifying it). So just because you can post doesn't mean anything. Look at your headers. Look for the X-Return-Path This is mine. X-Return-Path [EMAIL PROTECTED] The username in my case is marrandy the domain chaossolutions.org What you see in your headers is the name AND domain you are subscribed to the list under. You need to unsubscribe from that account. If your MTA is changing the domain from, for example I'll use mine, chaossolutions.org to mail.chaossolutions.org that may be enough to prevent your unsubscription...something else to check. Remember...it's what it says in that X-Return-Path header that is critical. Hope this helps. Regards...Martin -- A fool and his money are soon parted.
Re: rblsmtpd
Hello Peter On 25-Jan-01, you wrote: On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 02:06:58PM -0500, Martin Randall wrote: [snip] Whilst I'm hereI noticed that most mail servers connecting have cutomised greetings and endings during the 220, 250 and 221 responses. I searched the docs plus Dave Sills archives but couldn't find anything on this. man qmail-smtpd, look for smtpgreeting. Greetz, Peter. Well there were twp partsto this, the main part the rblsmtpd and the trivial/curious part, which is this. Let me start with the rblsmtpd. Here is a rbl log on another mail server. Sat 2001-01-27 13:39:51: [1164:8057] EHLO mail02.osite.com.br Sat 2001-01-27 13:39:51: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker checking 200.189.209.131 using cache... Sat 2001-01-27 13:39:51: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker checking 200.189.209.131 using 131.209.189.200.dialups.mail-abuse.org... Sat 2001-01-27 13:39:51: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker A-record resolution of [131.209.189.200.dialups.mail-abuse.org] in progress (DNS Server: 216.136.29.250)... Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:01: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker 10 second wait for DNS response exceeded Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:01: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker checking 200.189.209.131 using 131.209.189.200.rbl.maps.vix.com... Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:01: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker A-record resolution of [131.209.189.200.rbl.maps.vix.com] in progress (DNS Server: 216.136.29.250)... Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:02: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker checking 200.189.209.131 using 131.209.189.200.relays.mail-abuse.org... Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:02: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker A-record resolution of [131.209.189.200.relays.mail-abuse.org] in progress (DNS Server: 216.136.29.250)... Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:02: [1164:8057] Spam Blocker D=131.209.189.200.relays.mail-abuse.org TTL=(5) A=[127.0.0.2] Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:02: [1164:8057] 550 mail from 200.189.209.131 refused by RSS, see http://www.mail-abuse.org/rss/ Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:03: [1164:8057] SMTP session abnormally terminated, 26 bytes transferred. Sat 2001-01-27 13:40:03: -- As you can see, it says it is doing A-record resolutions with the relevent abuse locations. I did note in the earlier mail that rblsmtpd is now in the ucspi-tcp program and has a -a query. The only thing about this is why it says "anti-listed" instead of listed. On my second question which was about the 220, 221 etc. codes, Yes, I had already tried putting something in SMTPGREETING. What that gives me is (I've deleted most of the junk for brevity) :- Sat 2001-01-27 13:38:15: [2356:8055] 220 How's it hanging ? ESMTP Sat 2001-01-27 13:38:15: [2356:8055] EHLO chaossolutions.org Sat 2001-01-27 13:38:15: [2356:8055] 250-How's it hanging ? SNIP Sat 2001-01-27 13:38:15: [2356:8055] 221 How's it hanging ? Sat 2001-01-27 13:38:15: [2356:8055] SMTP session successful, 675 bytes transferred. As you can see, it gives the same text string for 220, 221 and 250 ie the smtpgreeting. Wheras, other pople customise the strings which is what I was asking about. Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:30: [2608:7809] 220 smtp2.home.se Novonyx SMTP ready $Revision: 2.74 $ Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:30: [2608:7809] EHLO chaossolutions.org Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:32: [2608:7809] 250-smtp2.home.se Pleased to meet you Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:44: [2608:7809] 221 smtp2.home.se So long, and thanks for all the fish Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:34: [2228:7803] 250 warrior-inbound - Plus.Net, The smarter way to Internet - Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:43: [2228:7803] 250 ok 980592233 qp 27053 Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:43: [2228:7803] QUIT Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:49: [2228:7803] 221 warrior-inbound - Plus.Net, The smarter way to Internet - Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:37: [2444:7858] 250-post.it.helsinki.fi Hello server.chaossolutions.org [216.136.109.158] (may be forged), pleased to meet you. Unless you are a SPAMmer Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:38: [2444:7858] 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sender looks kinda ok Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:50: [2444:7858] 250 2.0.0 f0RAhmx20818 Message accepted for delivery. Lucky you Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:50: [2444:7858] QUIT Sat 2001-01-27 05:41:51: [2444:7858] 221 2.0.0 post.it.helsinki.fi closing connection. Nice meeting you Anyway, this part I was just curious about. The main bit was/is the rblsmtpd. Please refer back to my original mail if you are confused. Regards...Martin -- Ah, Blackadder. Notice anything...unusual? Yes, sir. It's eleven thirty in the morning, and you're moving about. Is the bed on fire? == George and Edmund : Duel and Duality
Re: rblsmtpd
Hello Chris On 25-Jan-01, you wrote: I think this last entry requires a patched rbslmptd. You could instead use: -r relays.msci.memphis.edu relays.msci.memphis.edu is a mirror of relays.mail-abuse.org, but it runs Dan's rbldns and gives out the TXT record that rblsmtpd needs. Chris Funny, I was just about to look at rblsmtpd later today or this evening. Apparently the records changed from txt to ?? last August. I was hoping that as ucspi-tcp had been overhauled and rblsmtpd is now within it, at 0.88 this inter-operability problem had been fixed. What is the status of this problem ? Further, what's the -a option all about ? Whilst I'm hereI noticed that most mail servers connecting have cutomised greetings and endings during the 220, 250 and 221 responses. I searched the docs plus Dave Sills archives but couldn't find anything on this. Just curious... Regards...Martin -- 1) If you have to ask, you're not entitled to know. 2) If you don't like the answer, you shouldn't have asked. == Abbott's Law
unable to read tcp.smtp.cdb: protocol error
Hello. This is a new install on OpenBSD V2.8 following LWQ...thanks Dave. Fixed one problem by getting a hint from the searchable archive, thanks again Dave Sill, there is some info on this problem there, but not enough to fix it or know WHY it has happened. Looking for a clue here :-) How do I setup the cdb or is this a perm problem ??? Evetything else seems to be running e.g. top load averages: 0.31, 0.19, 0.081;72H11:33:48 27 processes: 1 running, 26 idle CPU states: % user, % nice, % system, % interrupt, % idle Memory: Real: 5148K/13M act/tot Free: 13M Swap: 4K/133M used/tot PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE WAIT TIMECPU COMMAND 9364 root 20 300K 884K idle select 0:00 0.00% sshd 23144 marrandy 180 376K 296K idle pause0:00 0.00% sh 31878 root 180 324K 248K sleep pause0:00 0.00% csh 7683 root 20 96K 420K idle select 0:00 0.00% syslogd 14062 qmails 20 100K 436K idle select 0:00 0.00% qmail-send 17930 root 100 68K 396K sleep nanosl 0:00 0.00% svscan 22702 qmaill-60 36K 344K idle piperd 0:00 0.00% multilog 26530 qmaild 20 60K 448K idle netcon 0:00 0.00% tcpserver 28675 qmaill-60 36K 344K idle piperd 0:00 0.00% multilog 9487 qmailq-60 36K 372K idle piperd 0:00 0.00% qmail-clean 17133 root 20 44K 380K idle select 0:00 0.00% qmail-lspawn 4006 root 180 324K 252K sleep pause0:00 0.00% csh 1 root 100 332K 204K idle wait 0:00 0.00% init 30092 qmailr 20 40K 348K idle select 0:00 0.00% qmail-rspawn 12138 root 30 92K 460K sleep ttyin0:00 0.00% script 30731 root 20 24K 364K idle poll 0:00 0.00% supervise 22284 root 20 24K 364K idle poll 0:00 0.00% supervise 2763 root 20 24K 364K idle poll 0:00 0.00% supervise 17832 root 20 24K 364K idle poll 0:00 0.00% supervise I suppose syslogd should be there if it's beiing used by other processorsor not ?? ps aux USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND root 20650 0.0 0.8 284 252 p0 R+11:34AM0:00.00 ps -aux root 7683 0.0 1.396 420 ?? Is11:32AM0:00.06 syslogd root 16728 0.0 1.352 400 ?? Is11:32AM0:00.00 inetd root 9364 0.0 2.8 300 884 ?? Is11:32AM0:00.28 /usr/sbin/ssh root 17930 0.0 1.268 396 C0- S 11:32AM0:00.02 svscan root 24223 0.0 1.5 224 492 ?? Ss11:32AM0:00.01 cron root 2763 0.0 1.124 364 C0- I 11:32AM0:00.01 supervise qma root 22284 0.0 1.124 364 C0- I 11:32AM0:00.01 supervise log root 17832 0.0 1.124 364 C0- I 11:32AM0:00.01 supervise qma root 30731 0.0 1.124 364 C0- I 11:32AM0:00.01 supervise log qmaill 22702 0.0 1.136 344 ?? I 11:32AM0:00.02 /usr/local/bi qmaill 28675 0.0 1.136 344 ?? I 11:32AM0:00.01 /usr/local/bi qmails 14062 0.0 1.4 100 436 ?? I 11:32AM0:00.04 qmail-send marrandy 23144 0.0 0.9 376 296 C0 Is11:32AM0:00.14 -sh (sh) root 31241 0.0 1.544 468 C1 Is+ 11:32AM0:00.01 /usr/libexec/ root 11946 0.0 1.544 468 C2 Is+ 11:32AM0:00.01 /usr/libexec/ root 18579 0.0 1.544 468 C3 Is+ 11:32AM0:00.01 /usr/libexec/ root 15164 0.0 1.544 468 C5 Is+ 11:32AM0:00.01 /usr/libexec/ qmaild 26530 0.0 1.460 448 ?? I 11:32AM0:00.02 /usr/local/bi root 17133 0.0 1.244 380 ?? I 11:32AM0:00.01 qmail-lspawn qmailr 30092 0.0 1.140 348 ?? I 11:32AM0:00.01 qmail-rspawn qmailq9487 0.0 1.236 372 ?? I 11:32AM0:00.01 qmail-clean root 31878 0.0 0.8 324 248 C0 I 11:33AM0:00.13 -csh (csh) root 12138 0.0 1.492 460 C0 S+11:33AM0:00.01 script root 30100 0.0 1.3 104 400 C0 S+11:33AM0:00.01 script root 4006 0.0 0.8 324 252 p0 Ss11:33AM0:00.01 -bin/csh -i root 1 0.0 0.7 332 204 ?? Is11:32AM0:00.01 /sbin/init From /usr/local/sbin/qmail SNIP cdb) tcprules /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb /etc/tcp.smtp.tmp /etc/tcp.smtp chmod 644 /etc/tcp.smtp* echo "Reloaded /etc/tcp.smtp. echo "Reloaded /etc/tcp.smtp." SNIP /etc -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 52 Jan 19 04:39 tcp.smtp No /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb Where do I go from here ? Regards...Martin -- "20 scared-out-of-their-gourds 3 or 4-year olds is an example of what I'd like to do to some of you who are really getting on my nerves."
Re: unable to read tcp.smtp.cdb: protocol error
Hello Dave On 19-Jan-01, you wrote: SNIP /etc -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 52 Jan 19 04:39 tcp.smtp No /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb Where do I go from here ? Did you skip the step where you do: /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb -Dave No, did that twice. When I did a vi /etc/tcp.smtp I found two identical entries of 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" had to dd one of them. Hmmm...on second thoughts, I wonder if I entered it all on one line ? Would that make a difference ? I'll try it as two separate commands from the shell. Regards...Martin -- Adam West is tied to a giant waffle iron! How will he escape?
Re: unable to read tcp.smtp.cdb: protocol error
Hello Martin On 19-Jan-01, you wrote: No /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb Where do I go from here ? Did you skip the step where you do: /usr/local/sbin/qmail cdb -Dave No, did that twice. When I did a vi /etc/tcp.smtp I found two identical entries of 127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="" had to dd one of them. Hmmm...on second thoughts, I wonder if I entered it all on one line ? Would that make a difference ? I'll try it as two separate commands from the shell. That was it ! duh...mental overload, too much reading. Don't know why I did that. O.K. - it's taken two mails from another server that were queued. /var/log/qmail/current shows them being processed. Will study some more now. I need to have pop3d running via tcpserver from supervise/svscan. Want to add APOP. rblsmtp Play some more with dameontools, then qmailananlog. Then add Publicfile or djbdns for this active machine/domain. This is good. There's a big difference for me from 'playing' with these programs on a computer inside or even disconnected from the lan and actually having it on it's own external IP with domain name. Separating the docs so you don't get confused by mixing them together is also very important. Anyway, more testing to do...thanks everyone. Regards...Martin -- A dress makes no sense unless it inspires men to want to take it off you.
tcpserver
Hello. I have a basic qmail installation following the install notes from the tarball. I have decided to add all the other djb programs so it will be a djbware machine. Passes all the test and works fine out of inetd. Added checkpassword and set-up pop3d. All tested and works fine. Oh, two questions :- 1) Why isn't apop available in Dan's checkpassword/qmail. APOP may not be prefect, but plain text is totally unsecure. 2) On checking the qmail.org and links from the checkpassword docs, there seems to be 3 or 4 implementations of APOP/checkpassword. Which one, in peoples opinion, should I use ? Installed the latest ucspi-tcp and damontools. I have printed and read Dave Sills life with qmail, but wanted to add and work through in stages as I add each program as I want to learn the intricacies of the system, not just have it all running without comprehension. No examples given for qmail in the tcpsever docs. No man ucspi-tcp, no man tcpserver. Looked in the qmail FAQ and found #5.1. o.k. - it says "remove smtp from /etc/inetd.conf" - no way. Remmed it out. put line :- tcpserver -u 7770 -g 2108 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd changed 7770 to 7791 which is my qmaild. Not sure why 7791 wasn't used as default as that's what's is described in the IDS, but o.k. - but hey, big deal. - Reboot required. (Is that it ??? nothing else mentioned) Barfs on reboot with :- tcpserver/-u: *:ai_socketype not suported which is Greek to me. I know that Dave Sills docs mentions cdb and tcp rules etc. but this isn't mentioned in Dan's qmail FAQ, so I don't know where to go from here. I searched through about 150 of the archived qmail lsit files but didn't see this problem. Pointers please. Regards...Martin -- --- All the wastes in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk. -- Ronald Reagan, quoted in "Burlington Free Press", 15 February 1980
Re: tcpserver
This should have gone to the list. -- Hello joshua On 15-Jan-01, you wrote: Martin Randall wrote: o.k. - it says "remove smtp from /etc/inetd.conf" - no way. Remmed it out. put line :- tcpserver -u 7770 -g 2108 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd you didn't put that line into inetd.conf, did you? Oh brown !!! Sensory overload. I've been reading a ton of docs and missed that...sigh...Thanks for kick in the pants. System startup files aka rc.local in OpenBSD. Regards...Martin sb --- 9. Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for. -- One of 21 Thoughts to Get You Through Almost Any Crisis
Re: tcpserver
So should this - sorry I'm stressed out -- Hello James On 15-Jan-01, you wrote: SNIP you didn't put that line into inetd.conf, did you? Well that's a useful reply. Sheesh. Anyways, Martin, that shouldn't go into /etc/inetd.conf. That line should go into your system's boot up scripts. /etc/rc.local or something similar. Or, by far the easiest way is to follow the Life with Qmail directions and use svscan/supervise. See #http://www.lifewithqmail.org/# james Yes, probably, but there is a lot of info packed into Life with qmail that I don't follow/understand even though it obviously works. I do have it printed out for reference, but the way I am thinking (rightly or wrongly) is if I install the tarballs one at a time and follow the instructions and try the other notes etc. I will learn it more deeply and thoroughly. For me, this is training as opposed to getting something up and running ASAP. I just want to go beyond the basic qmail install that I have used on an internal test machine for a couple of years. I have a external IP and domain to test and play for real now and have just installed OpenBSD 2.8 onto a clean machine. Once I'm happy with ucspi-tcp, then daemontools is next although I'd like APOP going and tested first. After that, djbdns etc. etc. - like I said, this is going to be a DJBware machine. Regards...Martin sb --- A deadline is negative inspiration. Still, it's better than no inspiration at all. -- Rita Mae Brown -- Starting from Scratch: A Different Kind of Writer's Manual
Re: tcpserver
Hello James On 15-Jan-01, you wrote: Perhaps, but there's more scope for confusion. The INSTALL* docs in the qmail tarball and LWQ do not describe the same installation process. You will have a different setup depending on which you follow so switching between them is likely to cause much hassle. I'd suggest using LWQ - the qmail INSTALL docs were written before the latest features of daemontools existed. O.K. - I'll consider it. LikeI said, I'm trying to learn it as opposed to getting it up and running ASAP. I have noticed stuff like Dan says mkdir /supervise whereas LWQ has references to /var/qmail/supervise. Still I'd like to follow Dan's methodology. Something about Maildir. I edited /var/qmail/rc and replaced ./Mailbox with ./Maildir/ but when I create new usrs, Maildir isn't created in their /home I have had to log in as them on a different console cd /var/qmail/bin maildirmake $HOME/Maildir echo ./Maildir/ ~/.qmail This then creates the .qmail and Maildir in their /home. Why isn't the skel working ? Obviously I'm missing something. Anyone have any opinions on which checkpassword is best for APOP ? Regards...Martin sb --- A cat is, above all things, an ingredient of Chop Suey.
Re: tcpserver
Hello Kris On 15-Jan-01, you wrote: SNIP I take it a .qmail file is also required in /etc/skel. Not really. If all of your users require the same delivery instructions, then those instructions should be part of qmail-start's "defaultdelivery" argument, presumably in the /var/qmail/rc script. A user needs a ".qmail" file when that user desires a delivery method that is not the default. Yes, that's already there...thanks. What perms are these files in /etc/skel supposed to be ? 700 permissions for all relevant directories (Maildir, Maildir/cur, Maildir/new, Maildir/tmp) is ideal. qmail will allow for a wide variety of permissions on the Maildir, but nobody else should be reading a user's email anyway. Great ! Getting used to searching the srchives now. Have the info I need on APOP. 3PO! You tell that worm ridden piece of filth he'll get no such pleasure from us! .. Right...? -- Skywalker (Star Wars) Han Solo said that, actually. Hmmmwill have to search the cookies file, it's 164KB long. search cookies.text Skywalker wait 2 to 3 secs line 1387 edited...thanks ---Kris Kelley Regards...Martin -- --- 2+2=5-ism: Caving in to a target marketing strategy aimed at oneself after holding out for a long period of time. "Oh, all right, I'll buy your stupid cola. Now leave me alone." -- Douglas Coupland, Generation X
Re: A firestorm of protest?
Hello qmailers :-) Let's just leave it as it is and if you want to call them something, then qmail non-standard extensions. I'm sure Dan is concerned that these extensions can introduce security concerns, not because of your programming, but the environments they will be working in/with. Perhap's he feels this could reflect on qmail's good name, or the multitude of associated doc's can confuse and fragment, something he is keenly aware of. That's why (ideally) he wants everything installed in exactly the same locations no matter what Un*x version it's installed on. What caused this rumpus anyway ? Regards...Martin -- --- 2 Watch. How if a' will not stand? Dogb. Why, then, take no note of him, but let him go; and presently call the rest of the watch together, and thank God you are rid of a knave. -- William Shakespeare (1564-1616), Much Ado about Nothing -- Act iii, Sc. 3
RE: CST17030532ID - OK so I eat spam (fwd) (fwd)
*** Begin of forwarded message *** Date: 08-Oct-00 12:05:58 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CST17030532ID - OK so I eat spam (fwd) --- Forwarded message follows --- Hello marrandy, Thank you for writing to MSN Hotmail. We have closed the account in question because of a violation of our Terms Of Service (TOS). You can read our TOS at: http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/dasp/hminfo_shell.asp?content=tos Hotmail has comprehensive online help available to you. For more information on Hotmail features, functions, and issues, click the "Help" button on the horizontal navigation bar. We hope that this e-mail has provided you with the assistance you needed. Sincerely, Neovanni MSN Hotmail Customer Support Hello. this person is spamming the qmail mailing list. They are also, apparently, harvesting list addresses Date: 08-Oct-00 06:48:22 From: Wheres Mybrudda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OK so I eat spam --- Forwarded message follows --- OK I will admit it SNIP *** End of forwarded message *** Regards...Martin -- --- The only thing that stops God from sending another flood is that the first one was useless. -- Chamfort
Re: What programming language to use with qmail?
Hello Thomas On 05-Aug-00, you wrote: Let me rephrase my question about building an e-commerce app for PayPal. I want incoming e-mail to activate a program that looks at what's in the e-mail, then does something (e-mailing a file) in response to what is in the e-mail. My hosting service uses qmail. What's the best language for my application? REBOL http://www.rebol.com Regards...Martin -- --- I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter. -- Blaise Pascal
Failure to add groups etc via VIPW OpenBSD V2.6
Hello. This may be just a OpenBSD problem...I'm not sure. When I add this and try and write, it says it is corrupted, but for the life of me, I can't see why. Anyone else with OpenBSD ? Regards...Martin -- --- All of the chaos makes perfect sense.
Second mail server
Hello. I want to run a second mail server. I'm curious of how you do this. I know about the MX, but if the accounts are on the primary mail server, and it goes down, how do you ensure the the accounts and mail are duplicated on the second sever. Does that make sense ? Regards...Martin -- --- A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism. -- Carl Sagan, Contact
dans web site at cr.yp.to
Hello. The site is back now although I haven't received the original mail yet. Perhap's the were down ? Martin --- I wanted to look at Dan's web pages linking from the qmail.org site. I get nothing back from clicking on the links. Tried with two ISP's. It was working last week. What's going on ? Regards...Martin -- --- (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail? Microsoft -- Regards...Martin -- --- An English judge, growing weary of the barrister's long-winded summation, leaned over the bench and remarked, "I've heard your arguments, Sir Geoffrey, and I'm none the wiser!" Sir Geoffrey responded, "That may be, Milord, but at least you're better informed!"
dans web site at cr.yp.to
Hello. I wanted to look at Dan's web pages linking from the qmail.org site. I get nothing back from clicking on the links. Tried with two ISP's. It was working last week. What's going on ? Regards...Martin -- --- (A)bort, (R)etry, (F)ail? Microsoft
Re: HTML mail considered harmful
Hello Scott On 12-Apr-00, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- (1) I complained about a guy's 17 line signature that could be compressed down to 4 lines... he complained about my 9 line PGP signature. clue. (2) I have already seen html email that has jabbascript that "decodes" the content of the message. I assume this was done to try to get around some sort of string based filtering. Scott So why don't you just put the pgp sig on your personal web site and a link ;-) Regards...Martin -- --- A meeting is an event at which the minutes are kept and the hours are lost. -- Gourd's Axiom
Off-topic, but I've been curious about this for a long time
Hello. What is the difference between mail sent from my masqueraded/NAT server to my ISP's mail server and my MUA masqueraded/NAT mail to their server ? I'm wondering as the server is now getting '550 relaying to user is not allowed' , but when I send the same mail from the mua it does go out. I was using them as a smart host as I have a dedicated connection. Regards...Martin -- --- Any given program costs more and takes longer each time it is run. -- The Second Law of Computer Programming
Re: Encryption and t-shirts
Hello Dave On 25-Feb-00, you wrote: Front: "Don't queue mail with sendmail" Back: "Send mail with qmail" That ones great. You going to put that in the public domain so people can reproduce it ? Regards...Martin -- --- A man of genius makes no mistakes. His errors are volitional and are the portals of discovery. -- James Joyce, "Ulysses"
Re: workaround for port 25 block? (fwd)
Hello Brian No need to send to me as well. I'm on the list. On 05-Feb-00, you wrote: hi, actually those rules are very regional. Damn (excuse my French), I'm in the wrong region then. Tampabay is a pain. In Rochester it is not against the AUP to run web servers, ftp, game servers ... etc. That is of course, assuming you are not doing anything illegal. If you are taking up to much bandwidth, they will throttle your modem. Period. (having worked there, i know how they operate) You lucky, lucky. (you know what). I'm jealous. 0 but i did look up the business rates (when i worked there they hadnt started offering business service yet) and they wanted roughly $700 a month for the same service i get now. sorry, that i will not do. Yes, Tell me about it. I even tried to appeal to their kind nature saying that I just wanted to do some free mailing lists and web pages supporting those lists, i.e. giving back to the internet community. - No joy. brian Regards...Martin -- --- Friends don't let friends use MS-DOS.
Re: spammer lurking
Hello Jim On 28-Jan-00, you wrote: This list is definitely being used to harvest e-mail addresses. [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are two of the addresses from which I supposedly received mail on this address, which obviously I only used for subscription to this list. I'm not on the list at the moment, if anyone needs to write to me about this I will still get your mail at this address. I hate spam. It could be happening at the archive at :- ~ http://www.ornl.gov/its/archives/mailing-lists They haven't stripped the e-mail addresses out. I wonder what they are using to store them. Most archivers have an option to do this. Regards...Martin -- Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. -- Meade's maxim