Re: GHOSTS AND ASSHOLES OT

2001-06-23 Thread Roland Mathis

Thanks for your help Uwe and Robin. I found Robins mail also funny until
he made fun of me. Yes, it's true I should have read the FAQ and should
have stated my OS (Redhat Linux 7.0 i386) and logging tool (multilog). I
just thought this is kind of standard. What I don't understand why Robin
cannot write something like: check the FAQ for answers about how to
archive all incoming and outgoing mail and second I cannot help you if you
don't tell me your OS and logging tool. It is basically the same, but
a lot more friendly. If you just look how much energy people and I mean
PEOPLE have to talk about everything else than the question I orginally
had, it is hard to believe how difficult it is to remind somebody to read
the FAQ or just to ignore boring questions.
Roland



On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Robin S. Socha wrote:

 * Bill Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010622 13:22]:
  Russell Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:

  Then don't ask a public mailing list for help.  Instead, go to one of
  the suppliers of commercial support.  How to know which is reliable?
  Watch this mailing list, and see who's been around longest (has the
  most established reputation to protect), and who supplies the most
  clueful answers.

 I'd buy your suport every day, Russel. And I mean it.

  Well put.  Very much in the spirit of user supported software...

 May I kindly ask you to, like, get a life? Russel offers commercial
 support. He's contributing here *A LOT*. You, on the other hand, are a
 whining luser.

  Russ, I'm not saying they shouldn't give us the information needed to
  help them.  I'm just of the opinion we shouldn't jump down every
  newbie's throat just because they are a little over cautious.

 What dictionary did you look cautious up in? Or are you referring to the
 OP's overly cautious use of the recommended reading aka FAQ?

  Put yourself in their shoes.

 Eh. That's what alt.rec.suicide is for.

  Imagine walking up to an Automated Teller Machine and seeing a guy,
  presumably a maintenance worker, adjusting the electronics.  He says,
  The card reader and pad aren't working.  Just give me your card and
  PIN number and I'll swipe it back here.

 ,
 | Port   State   Service
 | 21/tcp openftp
 | 22/tcp openssh
 | 23/tcp opentelnet
 | 25/tcp opensmtp
 | 79/tcp openfinger
 | 80/tcp openhttp
 | 111/tcpfilteredsunrpc
 | 199/tcpopensmux
 | 443/tcpopenhttps
 | 512/tcpopenexec
 | 513/tcpopenlogin
 | 514/tcpopenshell
 | 515/tcpopenprinter
 | 3306/tcp   openmysql
 |
 | TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
 |  Difficulty=74755 (Worthy challenge)
 | Remote operating system guess: BSDI BSD/OS 3.0-3.1 (or possibly MacOS, NetBSD)
 `

 Would you like me to tell you the programs and version numbers to go
 along with that, too, Sir?

  Would YOU hand over your card?

 https://mail.socha.net/about/ - happy cracking, luser. Do you need any
 help running nmap?

  All he wants to do it help you, right?

 Since putting them down is a non-op, yes.

  Think about it...

 Talking to yourself a lot, eh?






The Loss of Email Ghost

2001-06-21 Thread Roland Mathis

We have a new ghost in our company. It's name is Loss of Email. We
have qmail running since about 3 months on our mail server. Every now
and then people are complaining that they haven't received this and that
important mail. I usually make a test and it works, but the ghost
remains. Now, I already installed ISOQLOG, to analyze logs. But I still
cannot see WHO sent mail TO WHO and WHO receives mail FROM WHOM. Has
anybody an idea how I could filter this information from the log
files? Another idea I had is this: Every time qmail-send sends a mail it
would store a copy of it somewhere. How could I do this?
Thanks for any advice!
Roland