smtp authentication aka rfc-2554
will there be authentication added to qmails smtp like rfc-2554? clemens (pls cc: me)
Re: Problems with dnscache in Linux
Andrew Richards: There is no /etc/login.conf on the box; "-d switch in the run-file"; not sure what you mean here. For RSS I used ps (I've split these lines to fit) (Note this is the static linked version), USER PID %CPU %MEM SIZE RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 15502 0.0 0.1 1260 388 ? R 12:02 0:00 envuidgid dnscache softlimit -o250 -d 300 /usr/local/bin/dnscache ^^ the -d flag there must be a file defining default resource limits, i don't know it's linux name. find it and check if the limits defined there collide with the run-files and env/* files. you have a userid for dnscache and for djbusers? did you introduce the neccessary userids *before* compiling djbdns, like it should be? whats the contents of the files in env/ ? the contents of the run files? why on earth do you leave out the permissions and location of djbdns' install directory? clemens
Re: running daemontools on qmail with large locals and rcpthosts files
Eric Yu: The file size for both /var/qmail/control/locals and rcpthosts exceeds 1M (this incl. around 65000 cobrands). in this case you should allocate as much space in the ./run- files. the routines activated usually return some result or -1 to indicate failure. so you should establish the exact point of failure. then you might want to try the environment settings (how big is the resident set size of the different qmail programs?). 421 unable to read controls (#4.3.0) could this mean a malloc failure? clemens
Re: Converting mbox to maildir.
Morten Liebach: I have used procmail to deliver to ~/Mail/* for a long time. There's a lot of mail in mbox-format that I would like to convert (actually 20 mbox-files, gee!) in one go, like: $ convert -R ~/Mail ~/Maildir there's a program called "formail" in the progmail-suit, it'll do what you want. clemens
Re: qmail and dial-on-demand
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Will an unpatched qmail bring up the connection when it has mail to send if I have dial on demand set up right? yes. clemens
Re: spam and well known smtp servers
David Benfell: As I recall, the argument is that by responding, you confirm that the e-mail address is valid. I can't say I've dealt with enough spam to have relevant experience. i've had spamming for just surfing around the 'net, and it grew worse occasionally when i tried to avoid it by mailing abuse@... or postmaster@... clemens
Re: spam and well known smtp servers
wolfgang zeikat: http://spamcop.net offers handy online forms i have used all sorts of anti-spam tricks, but presently i just look at the headers of a spam-mail trying to spot from which domain it really originated by scanning the recieved-lines and use "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" as well as postmaster for chinese or mexican or whatever open relay domains without abuse adresses. this procedure is faster then any automatix. clemens
Re: spam and well known smtp servers
Rogerio Brito: For instance, all my e-mails use iname.com as the envelope and as the From: field, but I don't send mail from them (in fact, they are in another country); I use my ISP's relays. my spam peeked up when i got myself an iname.com-account. i think they sell their email-lists to spammers. i have a friend with a hotmail- account, and another with a yahoo-account, but nobodu with iname, and i block them on my private system. tough if someone wants to reach me... clemens
Re: spam and well known smtp servers
Cyril Bitterich: But there is a good Point in you proposal. Maybe you just wanted to reject the mail with a notification that you do not accept this mail because they are not sent via Hotmail. that's dangerous. my experience told me never to answer suspect spammers. clemens
Re: Re[4]: The most secure POP server
Scott Gifford: Just a guess; if the provider that won't provide APOP can provide you with plaintext passwords, then I don't know what their excuse is. well i told you mom! first they asked what apop is and when i explained it and hinted i'd want it -- pause -- and then they said they would not change their setup just for me! :( clemens
Re: no more splogger
Adam McKenna: should i be able to replace splogger w/ a multilog entry? say like: 'multilog t s100 /var/log/qmail' instead of the splogger above? would this then write files into /var/log/qmail? yes. clemens
Re: no more splogger
M.B.: now how might i pipe this thru tai64nlocal to get some readable (by me) time stamps in there? qmail-start ./Maildir/ multilog t s500 !tai64nlocal /export/home/qmaillogs then every log that gets rotated out of business (current - @...) will have human readable timestamps. clemens
Re: Re[4]: The most secure POP server
Scott Gifford: to use apop, germanynet (calisto) barked, thay would not change their entire setup for just one customer, when i asked them for apop. i dared to ask only because their greeting looks like an apop prompt, and it even changes on every dialup... so much for technical competence. They probably don't store plaintext passwords, which would make it impossible to support your request. Not a matter of technical competence as much as system design. that i don't understand. i can get my password anytime from any provider, just askin', maybe answering "secret questions". what makes you think they don't store plaintext-passwords? clemens
Re: Not receiving from all domains - is it DNS?
Barry Dwyer: Would this reverse-DNS entry (apparently there for the convenience of the ISP's reseller) be preventing some mail servers from forwarding to ours? this is the usual setup if you rely on the services of an isp. mail doesn't let itself get disturbed by this, rest assured. your mail to the list arrives.. clemens
Re: Re[4]: The most secure POP server
Scott Gifford: The only particularly nasty implication of using APOP are that it requires that the server have the password stored in plaintext. The most mail-servers that i, as a simple leafnode fetching private mail, care for has my password(s) stored in plaintext somewhere anyway, so that i can loose it it and have them retrieve it for me. this "service" is offered by every mailhost, but at least nobody could sniff it off the line, which is a little more secure than pop3's plain ascii transmission. POP over SSL solves both of these, by making no changes to the POP protocol, but just encrypting the whole session. i've checked around here in germany: isp's offer pop3 access plus web access. with freenet (mobile) i just had to change my fetchmailrc to use apop, germanynet (calisto) barked, thay would not change their entire setup for just one customer, when i asked them for apop. i dared to ask only because their greeting looks like an apop prompt, and it even changes on every dialup... so much for technical competence. clemens
Re: The most secure POP server
amir: How do you plan on using SSL with POP? I know that SSL and IMAP work nicely together, but SSL and POP, never heard about that... maybe some SSL proxying techniques??? APOP is the variant with challenging secrets. clemens
Re: The most secure POP server
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, but if you use APOP, the password goes out in the clear but is useless afterwards. Any client I can think of, including Eudora on my no, apop challenges the client which has to respond with an encrypted version of the password thus verifiable at the server. you can reuse that password as often as you like, but the challenge string and the answer will change each time. clemens
Re: qmail-ldap file permissions
prashant: can some one tell me what file permissions are required for 1 ~Home/Maildir 2Maildir 3 cur 4 new 5 tmp 700. the 'x' bit lets programs search a directory. clemens
Re: two questions
Clifford Thurber: #!/bin/sh exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail exec setuidgid qmaill multilog t !tai64nlocal /var/log/qmail ...would make multilog pipe safe loggs (loggs that were safely closed) through tai64nlocal automatically, so that these loggs contain "standard" timestamps. clemens
Re: qmailq problem
Ben Beuchler: And is there a particular reason so many people neglect to look at their logs when trying to research a problem? good question, actually. the loggs give very good and simple diagnostics, it must have something to do with the way information is identified. we have the time stamps, which have to be converted by tai64nlocal in order for people to see that they indicate *current* trouble. i have noticed people setting unreasonably large values for the log sizes and their number. then there's definitly the need to make sense of the long-term queue-id of the delivery messages and the status line at the end (1_0_0). i'd like to see it at a prominent place in the INSTALL files, maybe. clemens
Re: file permissions problems
prashant: problem , user can't download their mails from home/user/Maildir i have checked the default file permissions it was 644 for all the files in /new under Maildir if i changes this to 777 then users are able to download the their new messages users home directory is owned by users only , and ya also 755 for Maildir please help me guys , should i keep 777 and 755 for /new/* and /Maildir it's not normal to download mail from the destination directory. you should either forward their mail to them or run your own pop server. your data indicates that the downloading program wants to delete read mails or suchlike, in which case these programs would need write access to the directory. 644 is a highly irregular mode for a private maildir. clemens
Re: Multilog: fatal: the final answer (hopefully)
Steffan Hoeke: "Ok, the /var/log/qmail permissions weren't the problem /var/qmail/supervise and all in it needed to be owned by qmaill as well ;)" why that? clemens
Re: Not an unfortunate confluence of interfaces
Russell Nelson: No, I realized that afterwards. I latched onto the concept of making the /etc/tinydns service directory double as the home directory, for no good reason other than not wanting to multiply entities that's a very good reason and this thought prooves sound informational instincts, if i may put it that way. clemens
Re: Messages in Queue, but not sent
Fat Toolz: before I installed qmail I could see the connection drawn on the LINUX-Machine tcpserver+some log file message, now I can't; I wonder why) I just sent several emails as described in TEST.deliver to check out my qmail-version, but none of them arrived. Now I found all of them hanging around in the queue. Does anybody know why qmail just does not send them? the two probs are connected, in that the queue can't be worked without connection, but you should at least try "svc -a qmail-send" to alert qmail to do the q clemens
Re: qmail-lspawn to qmail-local strangeness
Ben Giddings: (As an aside, qmail looks like a great, highly flexible program, but man the source needs work. Virtually no comments anywhere, meaningless variable and function names. Not a fun thing to search through when you're trying to figure something out.) i give stags a few seconds and then browse through the sources without problems. i think they are a delight to read! clemens
Re: tcprules and tcpserver not blicking??
Markus Stumpf: On Fri, Jun 23, 2000 at 11:54:31PM +0200, clemensF wrote: i had even to disable the -x option altogether, because i could not get this feature to work. and yes, i have the current version installed, checked the permissions, tried with and without a 127/localhost entry... Give the exact line that starts the service. #!/bin/sh export PATH="$PATH:/l/bin:/l/sbin:/var/qmail/bin" #/l/bin/tcpserver -Hlv-- this is the line i use as a workaround /l/bin/tcpserver -Hl -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb \ -u82 -g81 0 smtp \ /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 21 the directory has the sticky bit set in order to start multilogging automatically. btw, nothing in the loggs whatsoever, although the permissions are ok and svscan/supervise doesn't complain. the service itself is started and works. does this say you anything? clemens
Re: tcprules and tcpserver not blicking??
TAG: I have a problem in that my tcp.smtp.cdb file is not being used - as when I try and relay through my server it seems to ignore the .cdb file?? i had even to disable the -x option altogether, because i could not get this feature to work. and yes, i have the current version installed, checked the permissions, tried with and without a 127/localhost entry...
Re: dirmaker
Ricardo D. Albano: How can I set up qmail to make automatically the home dir ? I'm using qmail-1.03 with ldap patches. "make setup check" does that. pls read "INSTALL*" clemens
Re: SMTP port 25
David Benfell: I'm just finishing a qmail installation on my new server box. Any attempt to telnet to port 25 yields "connection refused." I ran both tcp and udp scans on it with nmap; the port is not open. if you start the tcp server with some tcp protection wrapper that isn't configured to let local connections (i.e. from 127.0.0.1) pass, you won't even be admitted from/to your own localhost. clemens
Re: mail received and lost; was SMTP port 25
David Benfell wrote: mail reception through SMTP isn't working at all. I was able to telnet to the server and send a message which doesn't seem to have appeared anywhere. Then I tried sending a message through normal means from my system at work. This too seems to have disappeared, with no bounce. the usual places are $HOME, but also /var/qmail/alias/Mailbox (?) as a last resort clemens
Re: big-* patches and FD_SET()
Toens Bueker: more than 509 available for a busy server. what's that jazz with magic 509? what does this number mean? clemens
Re: Help on qmail-qstat
System Administrator: but i have seen that when i check this queue with qmail-read i see mails in the queue which are 4-5 days old. can you help clear the queue, so that i have 0 messages in the queue. svc -a qmail-send | skill -ALRM qmail-send qmail-send needs an alrm-signal to wake up. other than that there's touching mails to rejuvenate them. clemens
Re: qmail and pop3
Andreas Keiser: I want to get email from my pop3-account. Do I need to install any other packages or can I do everything with OpenBsd and qmail? for accessing a pop server a pop client (like fetchmail) is a good starting point. clemens
Re: vpopmail + qmail
Paul Farber: anyone have any docs on setting up vpopmail to deliver to local user dirs? Or are there any text based (pine-like) MUA's that can grab the mail via POP3? mutt. how about a fetchmail | procmail pipeline? clemens
Re: qmail setup with openbsd 2.7. and SMTP
Andreas Keiser:
Is there anybody who already installed qmail on OPENBSD 2.7. ?
freebsd here, starting with 2.2.8 upto 4.0 never any problems.
1. Where can I get the source, which I can compile with OPENBSD 2.7.
(When I compiled I had problems - user alias not found, but I set up
group and passwd files!!)
you have to make sure that any shadow-passwds or nis-databases or the like
are compiled after changes to /etc/{passwd,group}.
2. What compiler should I use.
gnu cc serves well.
3. I want to receive and send mail with smtp (no pop3). What packages or
sources do I need. Where can I get them.
4. Is there a documentation to do exactly that?
i think the documentation from mr. bernstein and qmail users is adequate
for the technical mind. for smtp 'pure' you don't need anything else.
clemens
Re: big-* patches and FD_SET()
Toens Bueker: ./chkspawn Oops. Your system's FD_SET() has a hidden limit of 1024 descriptors. does qmail really take up that many fd's at a time? clemens
Re: Any reason not to run supervise?
Petr Novotny: As in "sendmail is superior to qmail because it doesn't eat up space in process table". (Overheard this just an hour ago...) which is why qmail, consisting of many *small* programs, is vwery well suited to unix. if you read the source, you will find a very unix-stylish program set. clemens
Re: Mass virtual hosting with qmail
Nick Kew: deal with it). I don't want to have to add anything to rcpthosts (or morercpthosts), locals or virtualdomains for every domain. you don't? but then people might try to use your setup to base spamming on. clemens
Re: Extenstion cleaner
Jonathan Fortin: Anyone knows a tool that I can incorporate with qmail so it can just remove any extentions that are reiceived with .VBS and/or .EXE and .COM? this problem is one level higher up. qmail does not interpret nor analyze the data it is supposed to transport. you should try to get this to work at the mime level. clemens
Re: Open Relay
Bolivar Diaz Galarza: Please help because I am even having a hard time sending e-mail to this list and I do not understand what is going on, as soon as I place the rcpthosts file in /var/qmail/control with the name of my servers i just tried to check the conditions given and found that my system does not even recognize rules properly. i didn't notice because i had an experimental setup without involving tcpserver, it was only when i tried to connect to my internal nntp-service that the truth came to be known! from reading the source, which is still the only valid documentation, i could trace the error thru tcpserver, tcprules and tcprulescheck, which seem to be written to do what one intuitively thinks they should do. remains cdb. clemens
Re: Psuedo-benchmarks?
Eric Cox: So, if you're so inclined, could you send me a message with your basic setup (like CPU/Speed,RAM,OS,HDs,connection in/out), approx. number of users, approx. volume of mail, and a rough idea of how well the machine(s) are handling the volume, etc... directly to me - if there's any demand for the data I can post a synopsis to the list for all to enjoy. of course there's demand! post right away. clemens
Re: deferral: Can't_create_tempfile_(#4.3.0)
Ken Jones:
You might want to try changing this code to:
sprintf(tmp_file,"tmp/%lu.%d.%s",tm,pid,hostname);
if ((mailfile = creat(tmp_file,S_IREAD | S_IWRITE)) == -1)
failtemp ("Can't create tempfile (#4.3.0)\n");
make ; make install
Then see if you still get the error.
but the tmp directory would have to exist beforehand, right? unlike the
/tmp, which is already there. but you might have found a bug there!
clemens
Re: How to emulate sendmail's 'FallbackMXhost' option with qmail?
Curtis Generous: Is there a way to force qmail-send to relay/forward msgs to another machine (much slower machine but with tons of disk space) if our main qmail-server is unable to delivery those messages either on the first try, or better still after a set number of attempts? could you not rather send every message to your large machine using ":large-machine-fqdn" in control/smtproutes? clemens
Re: Quota on the users Maildir
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: My question is how do I setup limit on the users maildir ? i'd put user mail on a seperate filesystem and set quotas on that filesystem on a per user basis using edquota(8). clemens
Re: POP Server keeps stopping.
blue: Could it be a permissions problem with a recently added user ?? Is there a script that I can run to check my qmail config file rather than manually going through them 1 by 1 to check permissions and the like ?? the configuration i don't know about, but the qmail-general-setup can be checked with queue-fix (see archives). clemens
who's running freebsd?
anybody running freebsd here? clemens
Re: convert mbox - maildirs
Enrique Vadillo: I'm switching more than 15.000 users to Qmail using maildirs, i'd like to know what is the best tool i can use in order to convert /var/mail/user mboxes into ~user/Maildir format and to convert ~user/Mail/folder into ~user/Maildir/.folder format too. formail from the procmail suite. clemens
Re: mail forwarding: alias
Charles Cazabon: But why one alias, ~alias/.qmail-mail, works fine? That was where I got confused and started to ask ... ;-) I don't know, and couldn't tell you without looking at your whole setup. But excusee moi, je suis hercule poirot! je pens que les accounts `mail' et `user1' sont identical, et `user1' est =root=! oui! c'est le seulement way les deuz could work! hercule `clemens' poirot
Re: pop3 / tcpserver problems
Photocon: avail. Can someone tell me what to do about a "tcpserver: fatal: unable to figure out port number for pop-3" error on a redhat 6.2 system? add pop3110/tcp#Post Office Protocol - Version 3 pop3110/udp#Post Office Protocol - Version 3 pop-3 110/tcp#Post Office Protocol - Version 3 for qmail :) pop-3 110/udp#Post Office Protocol - Version 3 for qmail :) to /etc/services, if they are not there. clemens
Re: Why not inetd?
Peter van Dijk: Research shows that FreeBSD 4.0's inetd actually doesn't have these misfeatures anymore - it has a concurrency limit (yes, really!) and a max-connections-per-minute-per-remote-IP. starting with at most 2.8.8, it has. freebsd 2.8.8 is my religion. clemens
Re: thousands of qmail-queue processes hanging...
bjv:
What has started to happen today is that receiving mail is slow, between
the '.' and 'ok' from qmail (got that from telnet to port 25). Even slower
is its sending, which is about a message every 5 or 10 seconds. The other
noticable problem is that there are thousands of qmail-queue processes
running concurrently in the process table. Most of the processes are
did you concurrency-limit outgoing/incoming connections via
control/concurrency{remote,local} and tcpserver -c and -b or the
appropriate inetd.conf settings?
did you check:
z0:57:55:600:/queue/lock/:sendmutex:
z1024:56:55:644:/queue/lock/:tcpto:
p:57:55:622:/queue/lock/:trigger:
which is, ls-itarary speaking, or ls-wise, or simply wise:
(ls -l /var/qmail/queue/lock/)
total 1
-rw--- 1 qmails qmail 0 May 13 13:59 sendmutex
-rw-r--r-- 1 qmailr qmail 1024 Jun 7 04:16 tcpto
prw--w--w- 1 qmails qmail 0 Jun 7 08:53 trigger
qmail depends on these.
clemens
Re: Suggestion for mailing list manager?
* GNU Mailman: looks superswell, but I'd rather not have to learn python WHAT'S WRONG WITH LEARNING PYTHON yeah! i hate it, too! clemens
Re: Suggestion for mailing list manager?
Russ Allbery: WHAT'S WRONG WITH LEARNING PYTHON It's annoying? :) and dots-in-names dont make oo! clemens
Re: pop3 / tcpserver problems
Petr Novotny: pop3110/udp#Post Office Protocol - Version 3 pop-3 110/udp#Post Office Protocol - Version 3 for qmail :) Ouch! Since when can pop3 run over udp? 110/tcp lines are just enough. about as ouch than all the other entries. iana used to allocate numbers for udp and tcp, stop, ende, no discussion. please don't blame me, i was so tiny back then... clemens
Re: tcpserver: unable to bind
Luca Zancan: What should I verify??? you have set up qmail somehow, so there is a line w.r.t. qmail in your start up files. you must have started two server processes, usually due to a commandline ending in '' where it shouldn't. clemens
Re: tcpserver: unable to bind
Luca Zancan: "tcpserver: fatal error: unable to bind: port already in use", or usually it's one too many. at least two servers in the field. clemens
Re: Why not inetd?
John Gonzalez/netMDC admin: On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Peter Samuel wrote: I've never seen this. How? What operating system? What version of inetd? You've got me curious now. man inetd this is one of those things. we are used to spend five minutes on inetd.conf using vendor-supplied-template-files-or-example-snippets :) clemens
Re: Opinions on filtering
Derek Watson: qmail-start "|/var/qmail/myscripts/filter.pl ./Maildir/" splogger qmail Where filter.pl would read STDIN, filter out words, and print to STDOUT, in the hopes that qmail-local would pick up the rest and deliver to Maildir. But this doesn't seem to work out. .. I just get filter.pl printing the contents of the message to syslog. .. because splogger loggs it's stdin and your program prints on stdout. the first argument to qmail-start is handed to qmail-local, it's standard setting is the maildir. there was numerous mentioning of filtering qmail-queues input, which would let you get at every message in or out. why don't you try these? the archive should tell you all about this. clemens
Re: Help on smtp and rcpthosts !!
Xionghui Chen: every time when I send mail via port 25, if the domain of the mail address is not belong in the file control/rcpthosts, it says: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.7.1) you would select the recipients-hosts.domain:25 port. in comes the mail destined for you via your.host:25, out goes mail from you via recip.host:25. clemens
Re: No log??
Goran Blazic: After installing qmail on my system, suddenly there was no logging activity anymore... Nothing new gets written into /var/log/messages anymore?!!? you might post /etc/syslog.conf and /etc/newsyslog.conf for us to check. -- clemens
Re: Sorry, no mailbox ...
Goran Blazic: address [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the same address on different There was no way to do this, so I somehow tracked it to the fact, that I had how is somehow? could you please describe this in more detail? -- clemens
Re: Sender domain must resolve
Pablo MartÃnez Schroder: When qmail tries to send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from our mail server (212.49.139.237) and the sender is [EMAIL PROTECTED], bt.es mail server says "Sender domain must resolve". how about this: you either find the lines in the sources where this error is raised and from there backwards or from the appropriate mx record forward. -- clemens
Re: How to get QMQP to work
Johan Almqvist: How can I get qmail to use QMTP between two boxes that there is a lot of traffic between? I tried putting the respective IP adresses in /var/qmail/control/qmqpservers, but that didn't do it. how about this: you setup qmail-qmtpd on both machines to serve on a tcp- port reserved for this purpose, while keeping qmail-smtpd on 25. -- clemens
Re: Does someone knows what is this about?
Bruno Wolff III: Except that sites that block probes rather than fix open relays really belong in a different kind of list. I think the ORBS would be better off just listing confirmed open relays. If they would do this, a lot yes, this makes sense. -- clemens
Re: Help adding taglines to relayed messages.
Dave Potter: Rather than modify configurations on each of the local servers, I'm trying to figure out the best way to have qmail on the relay machine call a custom program which will append to the body of a message a tagline that looks similar to Yahoo/Hotmail's taglines. that's not difficult: put "| ( cat; cat my-custom-footer ) | qmail-inject" into the appropriate .qmail. the parenthezised expression takes the original message on stdin and appends some file to it, piping the result into qmail-inject. -- clemens
Re: Recipe For A Good Book On Qmail
Chin Fang: An example (which Dr. Bernstein has waned in qmail-smtpd man page in subtle ways): qmail-smtpd in general is quite small - 1.5 MB or less. However, if a newbie ISP admin comes in and slaps up a big rcpthosts (rather than a morercpthosts in cdb format), then qmail-smtpd can be as big as say 10MB or bigger, combined with high CPU utliization! But, how many people would run into this, and whether it's fruitful to cover such topics need to be carefully considered. Compromises have to be made somewhere.. yes, but not here. every aspect of configuration has to be outlined in the book. your own example makes it clear: in light of the trouble a newbie should avoid, the reader has to be told why there are two controls in different formats, but covering the same purpose. -- clemens
Re: vpopmail + qmail
Christian Wiese: please tell us what kind of qmail package and what Linux distribution do you use. On some systems the POP3 service in /etc/services is called pop3, but qmail-pop3d uses pop-3. So please have a look at the /etc/services and check out what is writen there under port 110. If there is an entry like pop3 change it to pop-3 and try to run your qmail-pop3d server again. wow! you almost had me there, mr. wiese. barely had i finished reading your posting, when the times found me digging thru qmail, ucspi-tcp and the daemontools. i realized that nowhere does the source depend on internal name-service-port guessing. as a matter of fact somewhere in the first lines of tcpserver.c/main the service name/number is scanned and handed to getservbyname, which eventually (might) return the tcp port to watch. but your advice is to the point, i just want to add that it might be saver not to *change* these lines in /etc/services, but to *add* them: programs might appear which insist on looking for the name `pop3'. e.g. /etc/services --- pop-3110/tcp pop-3 # POP version 3 pop-3110/udppop-3 --- --- pop-3110/tcp pop-3 # POP version 3 pop-3110/udp pop-3 pop3 110/tcp pop-3 # POP version 3 pop3 110/udp pop-3 --- -- Valerian Q. Farthingsworthe-Jones III
Re: help - very slow POP3 mail retrieval
Greg Jorgensen: I manage a server at a small business. The server is a P133 with 32 megs of RAM, running RedHat 6.1, Samba, and qmail 1.03. There are only five users connected to the server, all running Windows 98, and they are very light users. The entire office gets maybe 20 emails a day. For some reason email messages longer than just a few lines take a VERY long time to download, with numerous "server timeout" messages. This is not specifically a qmail problem (see my tests below), but I'm hoping someone will have some clues. try tcpdump(8). i've had a similiar problem articulating itself as continuous denials to finally establish connections, thereby forcing clients to an endless search for fallbacks which didn't behave differently. tell us what "tcpdump | tcpshow" answers. or maybe leave out tcpshow. make the -sbuffer option large enough to capture large packets. -- clemens
Re: Backup logs
Paul Aviles: I know how to create backups for all incoming and outgoing messages by modifying the extra.h file, but it is possible to target only certain accounts to do the backup on? This box has multiple virtual domains and one of them wants to track incoming and outgoing only for certain accounts. Using the extra.h copies everything for all virtual domains. Is this possible with qmail? you might consider using sgrep (structured text grep) *afterwards*, i.e. logg everything and choose later. -- clemens
Re: Migrating to Qmail, Maildir issues
net admin: I want to convert all mail delivery format to ~user/Maildir but how can I do that for those users that aready use /var/mail delivery and don't have local homedirs? that's easy. give them homedirs. -- clemens
Re: How I can send messages to my ISP?
Sinisa Malesevic: I wont send messages out of my domen (anywhere). Messages is in queue but they not go out. put ":your-isp-mail-gateway" into control/smtproutes How can I set relaying correctly??? don't relay. put the domains you receive mail for into control/locals and control/rcpthosts. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No SMTP after installing qmail
Rino Mardo: did i read it right? -- "..you already use procmail, use it by specifying "mda /l/bin/procmail" in .fetchmailrc." I was referring to "/l/bin/procmail" if you read the f$@$ email coz it doesn't seem right. ok. i thought i had myself made clear. i just wanted you to insert the full path to procmail, /l/bin/procmail is an example. i've got this in my .fetchmailrc: set logfile /var/log/fetchmail set daemon 77177 defaults #fetchall forcecr qmail-smtpd needs forcecr, procmail doesn't fetchall antispam 553, 571, 550, 501 mda /usr/local/bin/procmail poll pop.host.dom protocol POP3 timeout 200 user user-name pass ,and-his-password is his-local-name here as long as things don't work as tested, use "fetchall keep" as defaults. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How I can send messages to my ISP - NEW PROBLEM
Sinisa Malesevic: I try to send mail out with "maildirsmtp ~alias/pppdir alias-ppp- 194.247.192.52 MyIP" , but I get this: i have the feeling you don't understand the mechanics of emailing. please let us know: 1. are you a leafnode (single system, no children downstream), or do you have children downstream, or are you even provider? 2. what kind of system do you run, which software (os, mailer, fetchmail, qmail, sendmail...) -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMTP SIZE command?
Chin Fang: One idea would be the following (in qmail-smtpd.c): i disagree. control/databytes has the semantics wanted. why bother with smtp size? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
553
i have a few entries in control/badmailfrom. a few days ago a message got caught by this magic, but it didn't quite work as expected, because the 553 error from qmail-smatpd thrown back to the pop3 popper (fetchmail) came only =after= it had asked for the recipient. this is the dialogue: SMTP MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BODY=8BITMIME SMTP 250 ok why does qmail-smtpd say 250 ok? at that time it has already checked control/badmailfrom, but instead of complaining immedeatly it accepts the recipient's address! SMTP RCPT TO:local@localhost SMTP 553 sorry, your envelope sender is in my badmailfrom list (#5.7.1) that's too late! no wonder the pop3 client associates the 553 response with the recipient, which is wrong wrong wrong! SMTP listener doesn't like recipient address `local@localhost' SMTP RCPT TO:postmaster@localhost SMTP 553 sorry, your envelope sender is in my badmailfrom list (#5.7.1) can't even send to postmaster! and why this? postmaster@localhost is defined. has qmail-smtpd not done enough damage? POP3 QUIT POP3 This is a MIME-encapsulated message SMTP transaction error while fetching from pop.gmx.de Query status=10 what do i expect? fetchmail is confused and stops processing this batch. had i not checked the log, the same batch of messages would have been rejected until hours later my logg-scanning program had brought this to my immediate attention. by that time my mailbox at my isp could have overflowed with resulting loss of messages. i checked the source and the 553 reply could be placed a few lines earlier with no consequences other than reducing codesize a few bytes, because setting and checking a flag to deferr complaining about the sender until after the recipient address is changed, which is how it is done at present, could just be dropped and forgotten. why? what for? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
553, version 0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
he who pops his mail using fetchmail and doeseth not want to download spam
from known sources in the control/badmailfrom file may use this patch to
qmail-smtpd.c:
*** qmail-smtpd.c.orig Mon Jun 15 12:53:16 1998
- --- qmail-smtpd.c Wed May 24 05:08:52 2000
***
*** 241,246
- --- 241,250
{
if (!addrparse(arg)) { err_syntax(); return; }
flagbarf = bmfcheck();
+ // changed Wed-24.05.00-03:29 -ino: because fetchmail hickups when 553
+ // arrives out-of-band after recipient has been checked!
+ // following line moved up from it's place in smtp_rcpt
+ if (flagbarf) { err_bmf(); return; }
seenmail = 1;
if (!stralloc_copys(rcptto,"")) die_nomem();
if (!stralloc_copys(mailfrom,addr.s)) die_nomem();
***
*** 250,256
void smtp_rcpt(arg) char *arg; {
if (!seenmail) { err_wantmail(); return; }
if (!addrparse(arg)) { err_syntax(); return; }
! if (flagbarf) { err_bmf(); return; }
if (relayclient) {
--addr.len;
if (!stralloc_cats(addr,relayclient)) die_nomem();
- --- 254,263
void smtp_rcpt(arg) char *arg; {
if (!seenmail) { err_wantmail(); return; }
if (!addrparse(arg)) { err_syntax(); return; }
! // changed Wed-24.05.00-03:29 -ino: because fetchmail hickups when 553
! // arrives out-of-band after recipient has been checked!
! // following line moved up to it's place in smtp_mail
! // if (flagbarf) { err_bmf(); return; }
if (relayclient) {
--addr.len;
if (!stralloc_cats(addr,relayclient)) die_nomem();
- --
clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: multilog: fatal:
James: When I enter "/usr/local/sbin/qmail start" I get this error: multilog: fatal: unable to lock directory /var/log/qmail%smtp: access denied qmail uses unix security features like out of the book. qmails permission setup is fine-grained. if you follow the setup proposed concerning auxiliary accounts like qmaill (logging), qmailq (queueing) and so on and make the directory- and file-owner permissions like they are supposed to be, you will have a very secure mail system. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Forward to multiple people?
Snowcrash wrote: I'm running Qmail with Vpopmail from inter7.com and I'd like to know how I would forward one e-mail address to mutiple people. For example messgaes sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] are sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Probably an easy question but I'm just not getting it... don't forget to make ~alias/.qmail-default, which will act as a catch-all for (un|mis)directed mails. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qmail on a firewall.
Rajkumar S.: but how can i tell Qmail to send all the mails to indsoft.co.in to 192.168.1.1 what does your mx record say? also how about the error processing, ie no such user etc... will go to the postmaster, setup in ~aliases. consult tfm. or bounces. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483
Re: Qmail on a firewall.
Rajkumar S.: but how can i tell Qmail to send all the mails to indsoft.co.in to 192.168.1.1 dnsmx indsoft.co.in answers: 10 beta.indsoft.co.in dnsip beta.indsoft.co.in answers: 203.129.250.50 so your problem might ly in the dns area. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483
Re: error in qmail
kapil sharma: May 22 18:33:52 localhost qmail: 959000632.425508 alert: unable to append to bounce message; HELP! sleeping... permissions/ownership? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Limiting size of emails with databytes
Christian Wiese: But I'm still looking for a solution to seperate inbound and outbound mal size, but I haven't found any solution yet. As fa as I know it's also possible to limit the size of the mails via maildir, but I haven't tried this solution. are you referring to the disk-quota? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bad qmail-fetchmail interaction
everybody will still recall the nuisance with a certain party named: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . to dump these nessages automatically, i put this host into control/badmailfrom. here's what happens when fetchmail meets qmail on this topic. it renders the mechanisms badmailfrom, databytes and the likes useless, if qmail always blurts out his dismay asynchronically, because like in human interaction: timing is essential! fetchmail: POP3 RETR 1 fetchmail: POP3 +OK 4993 octets fetchmail: reading message 1 of 37 (4993 bytes) fetchmail: SMTP 220 spotteswoode.de ESMTP fetchmail: SMTP EHLO localhost fetchmail: SMTP 250-spotteswoode.de fetchmail: SMTP 250-PIPELINING fetchmail: SMTP 250 8BITMIME fetchmail: forwarding to localhost fetchmail: SMTP MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] BODY=8BITMIME fetchmail: SMTP 250 ok fetchmail: SMTP RCPT TO:root@localhost fetchmail: SMTP 553 sorry, your envelope sender is in my badmailfrom list (#5.7.1) fetchmail: SMTP listener doesn't like recipient address `root@localhost' fetchmail: SMTP RCPT TO:postmaster@localhost fetchmail: SMTP 553 sorry, your envelope sender is in my badmailfrom list (#5.7.1) fetchmail: can't even send to postmaster! fetchmail: POP3 QUIT fetchmail: POP3 This is a MIME-encapsulated message fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from pop.gmx.de fetchmail: Query status=10 -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483
Re: Qmail and conf-spawn
Peter Green: Just for reference, I've got a K6-2/333, 384MB RAM, SCSI drives, Linux w/ ext2fs. with this amount of ram you can do what you want with qmail. my machine swaps a lot for lack of ram, thats why execing is expensive here. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qmail and conf-spawn
David Dyer-Bennet: identical program invocations get to run their own copy of the program text. I don't believe this last bit is the case. It's clearly not the case on Linux, anyway, as displayed by the various size numbers in 'top'. but linux processes don't share one copy of, say, top, when it is called twice by different users, do they? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail queue
System Administrator: canany one tell me how do i clear the mail queue ? it's in the fm. read it. "svc -a /service/qmail-send" or whatever is appropriate for your system. if your setup is like your manual reading, you might prefer "killall -alrm qmail-send". -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want to leave this list
Kai MacTane: People who are determined to be stupid seem to be: a) 100% capable of being stupid, no matter how easy you try to make it for them to be smart (or at least average); and b) 100% incapable of being convinced that they're being stupid. They will rationalize and justify nearly anything. that's what i call a perl. it is the simple truth, no matter where it is applied. and since is so hard to spot intelligence, this statement will make it easy to describe the opposite. may i quote you? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want to leave this list
Racer X: from mailing lists for sending unsub requests to the list. maybe we could set up a blacklist of mailing list morons and ban them from every mailing list. we can't ban newbies making newbie mistakes while learning, or else we will grow old together because fresh meat is missing. and if we wanted to learn something new ourselves with this attitide confronting us, we'd have to stay where we are for the rest of our lives. if we can't put up with other people and don't even mesh with them, we gonna see segregation. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Doing logging from qmail-pop3d without going thru syslog?
Chin Fang: However, it's at the last stage I ran into an problem. I was trying not to use syslog for logging. But it seems to be that I can't write the logged info to STDERR, since the info would be sent to POP client (I confirmed this using telnet to port 110). Right now, I invoke qmail-pop3d in the following manner: [...] 'start_popd') # # start pop server # if [ -f $RULESDIR/pop3.cdb ]; then env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin:$PATH" \ tcpserver \ -v -R -x $RULESDIR/pop3.cdb \ 0 pop3 qmail-popup $HOSTNAME \ $checkpassword qmail-pop3d Maildir 21 \ | $setuidgid qmaill $tai64n 21 \ | $setuidgid qmaill $multilog /var/log/pop3d first of: if you want timestamps then integrate the last two lines from | $setuidgid qmaill $tai64n 21 \ | $setuidgid qmaill $multilog /var/log/pop3d to | $setuidgid qmaill $multilog t /var/log/pop3d also, if you tell qmail-pop3d to output stderr on the stdout stream with the term "21", telnet will give you error messages from pop3d too. if you leave out this term, you get separate output and error streams. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qmail and conf-spawn
Vincent Danen: What would be a good average value for the silent concurrency limit and is there a better way to figure it out on a system-by-system basis? Or note that the concurrency-limit for either local or remote delivery actually means the number of processes running concurrently to deliver mail, synchronized by qmail with fifos. each process gets it's own memory map with it's own stack and process control structures, and in most systems identical program invocations get to run their own copy of the program text. i don't think it makes sense to let more than 20 copies of qmail- spawn|local|remote run at a time, unless you count your ram-megabytes by the hundred and have more than one cpu on a very fast bus. take my trusty '386/8/162: if any two processes are in the run queue, i can go out, get addicted to heroin and come back to repair what's left of my family just to watch my shell prompt again. and, even more seriously, if the computer yuo want to install qmail on is an old leftover with not much to do any more, you should not let it run more than 10 processes. at least, that's what my machine can handle. should I just leave it at 120 or "hard-code" a different limit (ie. should I make it 150 or 160 or what would be appropriate for a Linux system running on a pentium class or higher machine?). pentium: good. ext2fs: slow if many files are in a directory, which is the typical situation for a mail server. no more then 30. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483
Re: Fw: start qmail automatically...
Arisandy Arief: how can I start qmail automatically on FreeBSD boot using daemontools and svscan script like this one: i have /etc/rc.local: #!/bin/sh PATH="/var/qmail/bin:/var/bin:$PATH"; export PATH ... cd /service echo -n "supervisor scanning services... " if [ -x /var/bin/svscan -a -d /service ]; then /var/bin/svscan /service if [ $? = 0 ]; then echo "OK " $! else echo "NOT OK " $! fi fi ... and /service/qmail-send/run: #!/bin/rc exec nice qmail-start ./Maildir/ [2=1] and /service/qmail-smtpd/run: #!/bin/sh #QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild` # made those two literals to save time #NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild` exec /var/bin/softlimit -m 80 \ /var/bin/tcpserver -c3 -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u58 -g99 0 smtp \ /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 21 and /service/qmail-send/log/run: #!/bin/rc exec setuidgid qmaill multilog t s2 n2 '-* * msg *' ./ and /service/qmail-smtpd/log/run: #!/bin/sh exec setuidgid qmaill multilog t s2 n2 ./ -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait [encrypted] return mail. no return mail within a week, you in trouble. no return mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
Re: Doing logging from qmail-pop3d without going thru syslog?
Chin Fang: If you take out the 21, your tcpserver will write its info msgs to console. In addition, the qmail-pop3d will still spit its output to STDERR to POP clients. Please try it and you will see for yourself. I just did (again, did once last night already). i am very sorry that id did not work out. i don't run popd myself, but i thought the shell redirection was the culprit. but i urge you to follow this mailinglists discussions on the pop daemon, because several people are already working on this. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483
Re: I want to leave this list
Troy Frericks: Why don't we TRY ADDING A FOOTER WITH UNSUBSCRIBE INSTRUCTIONS TO EACH MESSAGE, just TRY it? What is there to be afraid of? who would evaluate the result? we should try, but also really watch what's happening. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483
Re: log
Marco Benetton: Hi, I want to know if there is a file of configuratione where i can change the byte of my qmail log file. rtfm multilog is called like this: multilog timestamp ssize nnumber logdir where timestamp t | nothingfor timestamped logfiles size4096.. maximum size of one logfile, defaults to 1 number 2..number of logfiles kept, defaulys to 10 System Engineer CIO-Chief Information Officer ??? should you not know this if manuals are supplied? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I want to leave this list
Russ Allbery: It breaks MIME structured bodies, which are often useful for particular purposes. It breaks some signed posts. It's useless information for 99% of the recipients. And I'm really sick of seeing mailing list posts accumulate more and more worthless junk to the point that it's practically more unwanted bytes in my mailbox than spam is. It's rather simple to you don't take into account that the 'net evolves. gone are the times when people exchanged email who had also the knowledge to configure uucp. nowadays any idiot grabs a mouse and klicks away. commerce wants this: the same idiots are internet customers who don't care how a network is operated as long as kicks are delivered. give them a one line footer telling how to unsub. tomorrow the chief executive information officer of the it-company you work for will keep asking you how to turn off the lights. thats what commerce wants, because that's how they sell nuclear plants and pentium V's. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP-3 problem
Michel Carpentier (Thu 18.0500-10:11): May 18 09:04:55 istweb inetd[403]: pop-3/tcp server failing (looping), service terminated pls send inetd.conf. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483
Re: qmail is like a chainsaw
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thu 18.0500-13:26): qmail is like a chainsaw: exceedingly fast and powerful and able to chop off your foot in less than a second. one of the most important things to watch in qmail is =permissions=. if set right, the foot stays in your mouth. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Auto-create User's $HOME via qmail
Ruediger Kern (Thu 18.0500-22:43): computer. So with this, the users homedir could not be created. Is there any possibility to let qmail create the homedir for user aa1 if it does not exist? Or do you propose some other mechanism like ssh, rsh, rexec or something like that, that would be invoked through the PHP-script? qmail executes the instructions in ~alias/.qmail-default when no user matches the given address. but since your system involves other large components in vital roles you should integrate qmails actions with php and whatever to keep the system consistent. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait [encrypted] return mail. no return mail within a week, you in trouble. no return mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
Re: qmail-inject question
blue (Thu 18.0500-13:59): How do I send email from script with qmail-inject? #!/bin/sh echo $MYIP | qmail-inject [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait [encrypted] return mail. no return mail within a week, you in trouble. no return mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
Re: Missing info Quest for knowlege
Peter Green: what I do not know is when I have the MX record changed at My ISP (what ever the MX record is) How then do I get the "Mail down to my box?" I have a permanent IP address on a DSL. It depends. If you are wanting to use your full machine's address in your e-mail address (e.g., [EMAIL PROTECTED]) just ask bway.net to set up the MX record for that host name to point to your static IP address. but mister danger wants to serve port 25 himself. if he doesn't want his isp's service regarding email, he might consider setting up virtual domains in qmail/control/virtualdomains. together with the other options of rewriting (locals, recipientdomains) any nested domain structure can be build with email addresses always pointing to the main domain. the machine listening on the smtp port and any other services offered should go thru some kind of firewall, and be it only rblsmtpd for spam-control (see also control/baddomains). if later use as a web- or ftp- server can't be ruled out, only one machine should be visible to the outside: the gateway. with this architecture in mind it's gonna be easy to implement full fledged ip fire walling, terminal- and authentication- servers and so on. it will also go easy on the wallet, since only one static ip-address will be neccessary. ok, you want to get your mail directly to your machine, mr. danger? so it will have to run 24/7? maybe you should consider bying and installing a second machine for mirroring essential structures and services in case the main-server goes down. you will have to consider denial of service attacks, even if qmail is installed correctly, yuo provide only mail- accounts and security is handled by rblsmtpd and tcpserver. you should not go any further than this, because you will have to get this beast up and running with little expertise. there are advantages in outsourcing mail-services, you know. Do I set up for Mailbox or Mbox format? all my users will be using one of the following remotely Eudora, Outlook, or Netscape. Purely up to you. The format doesn't matter if you're just giving people POP3 or IMAP access to their e-mail. All you need is a POP3/IMAP server that supports your particular format. i guess a server should use maildir. if something goes wrong, you would not want to loose an entire mailbox. Finally How do I make it all go back to the Internet? well you let qmail-inject handle smtp transactions directly with the target- machine. you might have to state the meginning of the route in control/smtproute to let your isp handle the physics, but internet connects endpoints directly from protocol level three up. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED] do D4685B884894C483 gpg recv-key 0x9 echo `gpg list-key 0x9 | cat -tv` | \ gpg encrypt `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` | \ mail -s your-key `gpg list-key 0x9 | 822address` wait [encrypted] return mail. no return mail within a week, you in trouble. no return mail after a month, i in trouble. please check done
