MCSE Worth It? OR Not. (WAS RE: Bogus MAIL FROM (SPAM))

[Aaron Newcomb]

This is pretty far off the topic, but since you asked here are my two cents
as well. My certification was definitely not useful in my everyday
activities with the exception of the TCP/IP class. And that was only because
my class was taught by a retired military researcher who actually worked on
the protocol in its early development. Still, if he had stayed true to the
Microsoft material that class would have fallen into the same boat. The one
place where the MCSE does help is on a resume. The better employers look at
this and add in other factors like work experience, education, etc. to
decide how much you are worth to them. In my experience I have found that it
is useful at least in that area. I agree with your general statement about
MS products. We will see if they ever get the message or not.

Aaron

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  Aaron Newcomb, MCSE  -- gee, that wasn't obvious.

 point. Lastly, I am not sure what comment you are trying to make about my
 MCSE certification, but I am proud of the training I have had on all the
 operating systems I work with whether they be MS, UX, Linux or otherwise.

sos di you find the MCSE useful? i am one too and i thought that the tests
were not only ridiculously simple, but also just plain bollocks. microsoft
products are way to non-adherent to standards and way to nice-user-gui
stuffed to make their tests useful outside of a "domain". just my two cents.

martin

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Re: MCSE Worth It? OR Not. (WAS RE: Bogus MAIL FROM (SPAM))

[MaD dUCK]

I some ways I agree with you again. I took TCP/IP as well and if the exam
wasn't called "TCP/IP on Microsoft Windows" and touching all the MS specifics,
I would have thought higher of it. I did do Cisco and Novell certs before and
so it wasn't news in any way.

About the resume: see the thing is that this was true a couple of years ago,
but taking how easy MCSE actually is - i mean you can complete the cert in one
week without any training (this is what i did) - many people now use it as an
entrance path into IT. and the more MCSE's without real experience that exist,
the less the MCSE cert is going to be worth. it might still be true that MCSE
will get you a better position on job choices, but i have recently encountered
many companies who are totally unimpressed by MCSE or who require it anyway as
a sort of base level because it is considered a "popular" certification.

martin

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