Re: Problem with routing (Again)
Thanks that worked! Tim Legant wrote: > On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 07:03:36PM -0600, Cordell Bourne wrote: > > When my client is using the qmail mta for outgoing smtp, I want the mail messages > > to stay on jester.pain.teamp.com, if they are addressed as > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Add pain.teamp.com to .../control/locals. > > Tim > -- > * * * | 1) It's SLOW!--> "man tcpserver" - especially -R, -H, -l > qmail | 2) Roaming users --> http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#relaying > FAQS | 3) Secondary MX --> list in rcpthosts, NOT in locals/virtualdomains > * * * | 4) Discard mail --> "#" line ONLY, in appropriate .qmail file
Re: Problem with routing (Again)
On Sat, Aug 04, 2001 at 07:03:36PM -0600, Cordell Bourne wrote: > When my client is using the qmail mta for outgoing smtp, I want the mail messages > to stay on jester.pain.teamp.com, if they are addressed as > [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Add pain.teamp.com to .../control/locals. Tim -- * * * | 1) It's SLOW!--> "man tcpserver" - especially -R, -H, -l qmail | 2) Roaming users --> http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#relaying FAQS | 3) Secondary MX --> list in rcpthosts, NOT in locals/virtualdomains * * * | 4) Discard mail --> "#" line ONLY, in appropriate .qmail file
Re: Problem with routing (Again)
My qmail server is jester.pain.teamp.com (In my former messages this was hostname.somedomain.com) When my client is using the qmail mta for outgoing smtp, I want the mail messages to stay on jester.pain.teamp.com, if they are addressed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] What I want is this: If qmail sees an address of pain.teamp.com that it just delivers the message to localhost (in this case jester). My other mail servers will stay out of the the picture for now. If my client needs to send to any other system we simply use [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the messages get delivered as needed to those system. Here is my qmail-showctl output qmail home directory: /var/qmail. user-ext delimiter: -. paternalism (in decimal): 2. silent concurrency limit: 120. subdirectory split: 23. user ids: 7226, 7227, 7228, 0, 7229, 7230, 7231, 7232. group ids: 3002, 3003. badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed. bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON. bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is jester.pain.teamp.com. concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10. concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20. databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes. defaultdomain: Default domain name is pain.teamp.com. defaulthost: (Default.) Default host name is jester.pain.teamp.com. doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: jester.pain.teamp.com. doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster. envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is jester.pain.teamp.com. helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is jester.pain.teamp.com. idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is jester.pain.teamp.com. localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes jester.pain.teamp.com. locals: Messages for jester.pain.teamp.com are delivered locally. Messages for localhost are delivered locally. me: My name is jester.pain.teamp.com. percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed. plusdomain: Plus domain name is teamp.com. qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers. queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 seconds. rcpthosts: SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at pain.teamp.com. SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at jester.pain.teamp.com. morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect. morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect. smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 jester.pain.teamp.com. smtproutes: SMTP route: pain.teamp.com:jester.pain.teamp.com timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds. timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds. timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds. virtualdomains: (Default.) No virtual domains. defaultdelivery: I have no idea what this file does. concurrencyincoming: I have no idea what this file does. Charles Cazabon wrote: > Greetings, > > This is an automated response. > > You apparently sent me private email, seeking support for qmail (or possibly > some other software package) in response to a message I posted to the public > mailing list for that package. > > If you are responding to a message I posted to a mailing list, please keep your > response on that mailing list. If you are supplying answers or informative > comments, they will be more useful there where others can see them. If you are > following up on a question you posted, I respond to questions on the various > mailing lists based on various factors, including how much time I have, and how > polite or well-researched the poster is. > > If, on the other hand, you are writing to me in hopes of obtaining private > support, my consulting rates for support via email start at USD$100 per hour, > with a four hour minimum, with payment in advance for new customers. Existing > customers may be eligible with only a purchase order. Simply reply to this > message if you wish to begin a private support contract. > > For more information on why discussions which start in mailing lists should be > kept on the mailing list, please see Russ Allbery's excellent article "Why Ask > Questions in Public?", available at: > http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/questions.html > > Thank you, > > Charles Cazabon > > > My qmail server is jester.pain.teamp.com > > > > When my client is using the qmail mta for outgoing smtp, I want the mail messages > > to stay on jester.pain.teamp.com, if they are addressed as > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] What I want is if > > qmail sees an address of pain.teamp.com that it just delivers the message to > > localhost (in this case jester). > > > > My other mail servers stay out of the the picture for now. If my client needs to > > send to any other system we simply use [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the > > messages get delivered as needed to those system. > > > > > > Here is my qmail-showctl output > > > > qmail home directory: /var/qmail. > > user-ext delimiter: -. > > paternalism (in decimal): 2. > > silent concurrency li
Re: Problem with routing (Again)
Cordell Bourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Basically what I am needing to get back to is this scenario All of > the domain names are representative names and do not reflect the real > thing in my test lab. Please don't do this; it wastes everybody's time. Use real names or IP addresses. Obviously this can be a problem when the names involved aren't in the public DNS. > I have a client using my qmail server for outgoing smtp. > > 1) If I address the user as [EMAIL PROTECTED] I > want the message delivered to the user on the qmail system. This > works Okay. > 2) If I address the user as [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want the > message delivered to the user on the qmail system. In other words > both forms of addressing should work just fine. This does not work. > qmail bounces the message. > > > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at hostname.psomedomain.com. > > > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following > > > addresses. > > > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Sorry, I couldn't find any host named pain.teamp.com. (#5.1.2) That's not what the above bounce message indicates; it's precisely the other way 'round. There's no way to tell for sure, because of the fake data you're providing. You have two cases: the "central" machine which handles domain.tld (I think this is the one you're referring to as "the qmail system"), and other systems which handle machine.domain.tld. Post the output of qmail-showctl (unedited!) for both of these cases, clearly identifying which is which. Then we can help. Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: Problem with routing (Again)
Basically what I am needing to get back to is this scenario All of the domain names are representative names and do not reflect the real thing in my test lab. I have a client using my qmail server for outgoing smtp. 1) If I address the user as [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want the message delivered to the user on the qmail system. This works 2) If I address the user as [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want the message delivered to the user on the qmail system. In other words both forms of addressing should work just fine. This does not work. qmail bounces the message. Greg White wrote: > On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 06:15:07PM -0600, Cordell Bourne wrote: > > Here is my situation. I have a test lab with many mail servers from various > > venders. Each of the mail servers has the same set of test users loaded on each > > machine. With this problem I am not able to setup a MX record so I use the > > "artificial routing" scheme of qmail to get some things accomplished that I need > > done. > > > > Here is what I am trying to achieve now. > > > > I have qmail on a server with the U of W IMAP server. With our client which we > > are testing I am able to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the message is > > accepted by qmail with no problem. > > > > However, if I send to > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] the message never arrives. I get a bounced message from > > qmail stating the following > > > > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at hostname.psomedomain.com. > > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following > > addresses. > > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Sorry, I couldn't find any host named pain.teamp.com. (#5.1.2) > > I don't know where pain.teamp.com comes in, but your nameservers are > broken -- that makes it difficult to recieve mail. > > gregw@frodo:~$ dnsq mx somedomain.com a.gtld-servers.net > 15 somedomain.com: > 108 bytes, 1+0+2+2 records, response, noerror > query: 15 somedomain.com > authority: somedomain.com 172800 NS ns1.betstop.com > authority: somedomain.com 172800 NS ns2.betstop.com > additional: ns1.betstop.com 172800 A 12.8.12.75 > additional: ns2.betstop.com 172800 A 12.8.12.76 > > So, I asked ns1.betstop.com about somedomain.com, and it said: > > gregw@frodo:~$ dnsq soa somedomain.com ns1.betstop.com > 6 somedomain.com: > timed out > > ns2.betstop.com revealed the same result. Fix your nameservers, then > maybe things will work. If not, fix them and post the results. > > The results you posted look like a _real_ misconfiguration, based on > whatever your _real_ DNS is. Perhaps posting an unmunged bounce message, > and unmunged output of 'qmail-showctl' would be helpful for the list in > determining what the problem really is. > > Note that, in posting what appears to be mangled data, much of the list > has ignored your post. :) > > -- > Greg White
Re: Problem with routing (Again)
On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 06:15:07PM -0600, Cordell Bourne wrote: > Here is my situation. I have a test lab with many mail servers from various > venders. Each of the mail servers has the same set of test users loaded on each > machine. With this problem I am not able to setup a MX record so I use the > "artificial routing" scheme of qmail to get some things accomplished that I need > done. > > Here is what I am trying to achieve now. > > I have qmail on a server with the U of W IMAP server. With our client which we > are testing I am able to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the message is > accepted by qmail with no problem. > > However, if I send to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] the message never arrives. I get a bounced message from > qmail stating the following > > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at hostname.psomedomain.com. > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following > addresses. > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sorry, I couldn't find any host named pain.teamp.com. (#5.1.2) I don't know where pain.teamp.com comes in, but your nameservers are broken -- that makes it difficult to recieve mail. gregw@frodo:~$ dnsq mx somedomain.com a.gtld-servers.net 15 somedomain.com: 108 bytes, 1+0+2+2 records, response, noerror query: 15 somedomain.com authority: somedomain.com 172800 NS ns1.betstop.com authority: somedomain.com 172800 NS ns2.betstop.com additional: ns1.betstop.com 172800 A 12.8.12.75 additional: ns2.betstop.com 172800 A 12.8.12.76 So, I asked ns1.betstop.com about somedomain.com, and it said: gregw@frodo:~$ dnsq soa somedomain.com ns1.betstop.com 6 somedomain.com: timed out ns2.betstop.com revealed the same result. Fix your nameservers, then maybe things will work. If not, fix them and post the results. The results you posted look like a _real_ misconfiguration, based on whatever your _real_ DNS is. Perhaps posting an unmunged bounce message, and unmunged output of 'qmail-showctl' would be helpful for the list in determining what the problem really is. Note that, in posting what appears to be mangled data, much of the list has ignored your post. :) -- Greg White
Problem with routing (Again)
Here is my situation. I have a test lab with many mail servers from various venders. Each of the mail servers has the same set of test users loaded on each machine. With this problem I am not able to setup a MX record so I use the "artificial routing" scheme of qmail to get some things accomplished that I need done. Here is what I am trying to achieve now. I have qmail on a server with the U of W IMAP server. With our client which we are testing I am able to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the message is accepted by qmail with no problem. However, if I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] the message never arrives. I get a bounced message from qmail stating the following Hi. This is the qmail-send program at hostname.psomedomain.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sorry, I couldn't find any host named pain.teamp.com. (#5.1.2) What have I missed. The contents of my rcpthosts file is as follows somedomain.com The contents of my smtproutes file is as follows somedomain.com:hostname.somedomain.com My defaultdomain file is set to somedomain.com My locals file si set to: hostname.psomedomain.com localhosts My me file is set to hostname.psomedomain.com The other files in my control directory are plusdomains and defaultdelivery. So what is wrong with my delivery mechanism? --Cordell Bourne
