Re: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***

2000-05-09 Thread Steffan Hoeke

On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 11:17:32PM +0100, Alex Shipp wrote:
 I think this therefore eloquently answers my previous question
 and confirms my original feeling that it is a bad idea to post 
 virus warnings to this group.
I don't agree.
Posting Virus warning to a mailing list like this _can_ be  a good
idea, as long as they are *VALID*.

The Cat Colonic hoax has been going on for quite some time and is
to be found on all major Anti-Virus site, categorized as such!

The content of the Cat Colonic mail makes it obvious it's a hoax.
C'mon guys, crashing an aquarium ? Not possible unless it's an
IP drive one G

I'ts IMHO not smart to blindly post that kind of messages anywhere
you can, *before* checking with the major AV providers to see if
it't not listed as a hoax...

Well, that's my 2 cent's worth.

Steffan
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kai MacTane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 08 May 2000 23:22
 Subject: RE: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***
 
 
 At 5/8/2000 02:52 PM -0700, Bryan Hundven wrote or quoted:
 Could we possibly get this in english?
 Please?
 
 Very loose translation:
 
 "There's a big, bad virus out there, which is even worse than Melissa. Be 
 very afraid. It will eat your hard drive, crash your aquarium, and max out 
 your credit cards, and that's just before breakfast."
 

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Re: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***

2000-05-09 Thread Alex Shipp


Posting Virus warning to a mailing list like this _can_ be  a good
idea, as long as they are *VALID*.

Well, *I* know they are valid, because I work in the AV industry.
(although of course I'm not infallible...but that's another story)
However, if other people see me posting, they will also be
encouraged to post, and the whole thing could quickly degenerate.




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Off Topic: Posting virus warnings? (was Re: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***)

2000-05-09 Thread Steffan Hoeke

On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 07:17:00AM +0100, Alex Shipp wrote:
 
 Posting Virus warning to a mailing list like this _can_ be  a good
 idea, as long as they are *VALID*.
 
 Well, *I* know they are valid, because I work in the AV industry.
 (although of course I'm not infallible...but that's another story)
 However, if other people see me posting, they will also be
 encouraged to post, and the whole thing could quickly degenerate.

G My previous remark 'solves' the degenerating problem...
If only people would check a couple of AV sites before posting
'world wide', 'important' fake warnings the world would be a better
place.
I'm still trying to educate everybody i know to *first* check the
AV sites before warning me about a fake virus i already know about.

Doesn't the degenerating problem occur on AV dedicated lists?
Or are the moderated?

Bye,
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Re: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***

2000-05-08 Thread Hector Tinoco

On Mon, 8 May 2000, Eddy wrote:

 
 
 OTRO VIRUS ESPANTOSO, PONGAN ATENCION:
 
 ATENCION VIRUS
 
 IBM y AOL acaban de informar que un nuevo Virus - WOBBLER - anda
 suelto. Llegara en un E-mail titulado: "How to Give a Cat a Colonic".
 IBM 
 y AOL
 han anunciado que es MUY poderoso, mas que Melissa, y que no hay NINGUN
 remedio conocido. Este virus comera toda su informacion sobre la unidad
 de
 disco duro, y tambien destruye al Navegante de Netscape y Microsoft
 Internet
 Explorador.
 
 No abra nada con este titulo y por favor pase este mensaje a todos sus
 contactos y cualquiera que usa con asiduidad el e-mail. No demasiadas
 personas parecen saber esto todavia, asi que propague esta informacion
 tan rapido como le sea posible. Esta informacion fue anunciada ayer por
 la
 manana por IBM.
 
 Por favor compartalo con todos los de su libro de direccion para que la
 propagacion del virus puedan detenerse. Este es un Virus muy peligroso
 y  no hay ningun remedio para 'el en este momento. Todos agradeceran
 saberlo.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***

2000-05-08 Thread Bryan Hundven

Could we possibly get this in english?
Please?

Thanx in advance,

Bryan Hundven
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Hector Tinoco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 2:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***


On Mon, 8 May 2000, Eddy wrote:

 
 
 OTRO VIRUS ESPANTOSO, PONGAN ATENCION:
 
 ATENCION VIRUS
 
 IBM y AOL acaban de informar que un nuevo Virus - WOBBLER - anda
 suelto. Llegara en un E-mail titulado: "How to Give a Cat a Colonic".
 IBM 
 y AOL
 han anunciado que es MUY poderoso, mas que Melissa, y que no hay NINGUN
 remedio conocido. Este virus comera toda su informacion sobre la unidad
 de
 disco duro, y tambien destruye al Navegante de Netscape y Microsoft
 Internet
 Explorador.
 
 No abra nada con este titulo y por favor pase este mensaje a todos sus
 contactos y cualquiera que usa con asiduidad el e-mail. No demasiadas
 personas parecen saber esto todavia, asi que propague esta informacion
 tan rapido como le sea posible. Esta informacion fue anunciada ayer por
 la
 manana por IBM.
 
 Por favor compartalo con todos los de su libro de direccion para que la
 propagacion del virus puedan detenerse. Este es un Virus muy peligroso
 y  no hay ningun remedio para 'el en este momento. Todos agradeceran
 saberlo.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Hector Ryan Tinoco Reed
Administrador Nodo Internet, WebMaster.
Direccion de Investigaciones Academicas
Universidad Catolica de Nicaragua
Tels. : (505) 276-0004 - Ext. 5602 (Oficina UNICA) 3:00pm - 9:40pm
(505) 268-2362 - Ext. 116  (Oficina CRIES) 8:00am - 1:00pm
(505) 289-4829 (Casa) 
Faxs  : (505) 276-0590 (UNICA)
(505) 268-1565 (CRIES)
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Re: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***

2000-05-08 Thread Juan E Suris

Not very useful. You can ignore it!
JES

- Original Message -
From: "Bryan Hundven" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Hector Tinoco" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 5:52 PM
Subject: RE: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***


 Could we possibly get this in english?
 Please?

 Thanx in advance,

 Bryan Hundven
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 From: Hector Tinoco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 2:20 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***


 On Mon, 8 May 2000, Eddy wrote:

 
  
  OTRO VIRUS ESPANTOSO, PONGAN ATENCION:
  
  ATENCION VIRUS
  
  IBM y AOL acaban de informar que un nuevo Virus - WOBBLER - anda
  suelto. Llegara en un E-mail titulado: "How to Give a Cat a Colonic".
  IBM
  y AOL
  han anunciado que es MUY poderoso, mas que Melissa, y que no hay
NINGUN
  remedio conocido. Este virus comera toda su informacion sobre la
unidad
  de
  disco duro, y tambien destruye al Navegante de Netscape y Microsoft
  Internet
  Explorador.
  
  No abra nada con este titulo y por favor pase este mensaje a todos sus
  contactos y cualquiera que usa con asiduidad el e-mail. No demasiadas
  personas parecen saber esto todavia, asi que propague esta informacion
  tan rapido como le sea posible. Esta informacion fue anunciada ayer
por
  la
  manana por IBM.
  
  Por favor compartalo con todos los de su libro de direccion para que
la
  propagacion del virus puedan detenerse. Este es un Virus muy peligroso
  y  no hay ningun remedio para 'el en este momento. Todos agradeceran
  saberlo.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 

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 Hector Ryan Tinoco Reed
 Administrador Nodo Internet, WebMaster.
 Direccion de Investigaciones Academicas
 Universidad Catolica de Nicaragua
 Tels. : (505) 276-0004 - Ext. 5602 (Oficina UNICA) 3:00pm - 9:40pm
 (505) 268-2362 - Ext. 116  (Oficina CRIES) 8:00am - 1:00pm
  (505) 289-4829 (Casa)
 Faxs  : (505) 276-0590 (UNICA)
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RE: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***

2000-05-08 Thread Vince Vielhaber

On Mon, 8 May 2000, Bryan Hundven wrote:

 Could we possibly get this in english?
 Please?

Compliments of the babelfish (not perfect but you'll get the gist
of it):


ANOTHER FRIGHTFUL VIRUS, PUTS ATTENTION: 

ATTENTION VIRUS 

IBM and AOL finish informing that a new Virus - WOBBLER -
walks loose. It arrived in a
titled email: " How to Give to Cat to Colonic ". IBM and
AOL have announced that are
VERY powerful, but that Melissa, and who is no NINGUN
well-known remedy. This
comere virus all its information on the HDD, and also
destroys the Navigator of Netscape
and Microsoft Exploratory Internet. 

It does not open anything with this I title and please it
passes east message to all his
contacts and whatever it uses with assiduity the
email. Too many people do not seem to
know to this todavia, asi that she propagates this
information as fast as it is possible to
him. This information was announced yesterday by the
manana by IBM. 

Please compartalo with all those of its book of direction
so that the propagation of the
virus can stop. This it is a very dangerous Virus and
remedy for ' at this moment is no
ningun. All you would agradeceran to know it. 



Vince.

 
 Thanx in advance,
 
 Bryan Hundven
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Hector Tinoco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 2:20 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***
 
 
 On Mon, 8 May 2000, Eddy wrote:
 
  
  
  OTRO VIRUS ESPANTOSO, PONGAN ATENCION:
  
  ATENCION VIRUS
  
  IBM y AOL acaban de informar que un nuevo Virus - WOBBLER - anda
  suelto. Llegara en un E-mail titulado: "How to Give a Cat a Colonic".
  IBM 
  y AOL
  han anunciado que es MUY poderoso, mas que Melissa, y que no hay NINGUN
  remedio conocido. Este virus comera toda su informacion sobre la unidad
  de
  disco duro, y tambien destruye al Navegante de Netscape y Microsoft
  Internet
  Explorador.
  
  No abra nada con este titulo y por favor pase este mensaje a todos sus
  contactos y cualquiera que usa con asiduidad el e-mail. No demasiadas
  personas parecen saber esto todavia, asi que propague esta informacion
  tan rapido como le sea posible. Esta informacion fue anunciada ayer por
  la
  manana por IBM.
  
  Por favor compartalo con todos los de su libro de direccion para que la
  propagacion del virus puedan detenerse. Este es un Virus muy peligroso
  y  no hay ningun remedio para 'el en este momento. Todos agradeceran
  saberlo.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
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 Administrador Nodo Internet, WebMaster.
 Direccion de Investigaciones Academicas
 Universidad Catolica de Nicaragua
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   (505) 268-2362 - Ext. 116  (Oficina CRIES) 8:00am - 1:00pm
   (505) 289-4829 (Casa) 
 Faxs  : (505) 276-0590 (UNICA)
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RE: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***

2000-05-08 Thread Jon Saunders

My guess, this is a hoax as outlined on some of the major virus protection
sites - The hoax states that IBM and AOL acknowledge the WOBBLER virus, it
is worse than Melissa, and that it destroys Netscape.

Jon Saunders
SECPA

-Original Message-
From: Hector Tinoco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 4:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***


On Mon, 8 May 2000, Eddy wrote:


 
 OTRO VIRUS ESPANTOSO, PONGAN ATENCION:
 
 ATENCION VIRUS
 
 IBM y AOL acaban de informar que un nuevo Virus - WOBBLER - anda
 suelto. Llegara en un E-mail titulado: "How to Give a Cat a Colonic".
 IBM
 y AOL
 han anunciado que es MUY poderoso, mas que Melissa, y que no hay NINGUN
 remedio conocido. Este virus comera toda su informacion sobre la unidad
 de
 disco duro, y tambien destruye al Navegante de Netscape y Microsoft
 Internet
 Explorador.
 
 No abra nada con este titulo y por favor pase este mensaje a todos sus
 contactos y cualquiera que usa con asiduidad el e-mail. No demasiadas
 personas parecen saber esto todavia, asi que propague esta informacion
 tan rapido como le sea posible. Esta informacion fue anunciada ayer por
 la
 manana por IBM.
 
 Por favor compartalo con todos los de su libro de direccion para que la
 propagacion del virus puedan detenerse. Este es un Virus muy peligroso
 y  no hay ningun remedio para 'el en este momento. Todos agradeceran
 saberlo.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



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Hector Ryan Tinoco Reed
Administrador Nodo Internet, WebMaster.
Direccion de Investigaciones Academicas
Universidad Catolica de Nicaragua
Tels. : (505) 276-0004 - Ext. 5602 (Oficina UNICA) 3:00pm - 9:40pm
(505) 268-2362 - Ext. 116  (Oficina CRIES) 8:00am - 1:00pm
(505) 289-4829 (Casa)
Faxs  : (505) 276-0590 (UNICA)
(505) 268-1565 (CRIES)
Beeper: 19533 (2784800 Alfanumeric)
URL   : http://www.unica.edu.ni/htinoco

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RE: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***

2000-05-08 Thread Kai MacTane

At 5/8/2000 02:52 PM -0700, Bryan Hundven wrote or quoted:
Could we possibly get this in english?
Please?

Very loose translation:

"There's a big, bad virus out there, which is even worse than Melissa. Be 
very afraid. It will eat your hard drive, crash your aquarium, and max out 
your credit cards, and that's just before breakfast."

Plus, a direct translation on one line:

  Esta informacion fue anunciada ayer por la manana por IBM.

"This information was announced yesterday morning by IBM."

IOW, this is one of the standard hoax email virus warnings that's been 
littering the Internet for past six years or more, only translated into 
Spanish.

-
  Kai MacTane
  System Administrator
   Online Partners.com, Inc.
-
 From the Jargon File: (v4.0.0, 25 Jul 1996)

finger trouble /n./

Mistyping, typos, or generalized keyboard incompetence (this is
surprisingly common among hackers, given the amount of time they
spend at keyboards). "I keep putting colons at the end of statements
instead of semicolons", "Finger trouble again, eh?".




Re: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***

2000-05-08 Thread Alex Shipp

I think this therefore eloquently answers my previous question
and confirms my original feeling that it is a bad idea to post 
virus warnings to this group.

- Original Message - 
From: Kai MacTane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 08 May 2000 23:22
Subject: RE: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***


At 5/8/2000 02:52 PM -0700, Bryan Hundven wrote or quoted:
Could we possibly get this in english?
Please?

Very loose translation:

"There's a big, bad virus out there, which is even worse than Melissa. Be 
very afraid. It will eat your hard drive, crash your aquarium, and max out 
your credit cards, and that's just before breakfast."

Plus, a direct translation on one line:

  Esta informacion fue anunciada ayer por la manana por IBM.

"This information was announced yesterday morning by IBM."

IOW, this is one of the standard hoax email virus warnings that's been 
littering the Internet for past six years or more, only translated into 
Spanish.




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RE: FW: FW: VIRUS PEOR QUE MELISSA II *** Importante***

2000-05-08 Thread Len Budney

Kai MacTane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 IOW, this is one of the standard hoax email virus warnings that's been 
 littering the Internet for past six years or more, only translated into 
 Spanish.

You mean, I can't find out how to give my cat a colonic?

Len.

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