Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-07-07 Thread Piotr Kasztelowicz

Hello

  What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage and
  disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day 



Troll, troll, troll your boat, gently down the stream... ;)


That's no bad question, because ezmlm with idx version more than 0.40
on Solaris generates bug - the post is not delivered and core is dumped.
This bug is first reported by me in September 2000, where I have
first one installed qmail+ezmlm+idx on Solaris 2.6 and later on 2.7
and later has been described by others. The solution is to use idx
ver. 0.40 or installin patch to ezmlm+idx, which are described on this
list too. Maybe this information should be added to idx faqa, because
still a lot peoples reports this sytuation. So, this is improtant
information for the peoples choosing Solaris for qmail+ezmlm if idx wanna use.

Piotr
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Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-07-03 Thread Felix von Leitner

Thus spake Henning Brauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage and
  disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day and
  I don't know what hard can I buy? :)
 Kindly ignoring that this is dicussed a thousand times in the past and you
 can find this in the archives the answer is BSD. qmail relies on some BSD
 FFS semantics not 100% followed by linux' ext2fs for example.

Troll, troll, troll your boat, gently down the stream... ;)

The correct answer would have been: If you need to ask which operating
system is best, you are too incompetent to run a server on the Internet.

Felix



Re: Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-07-03 Thread mgeier

Thank god we have you around Fenix to drag up a troll's thread that hasn't
been discussed in two days and is completely OT.

Whatever would this list do without you to jab at the ignorant to make
yourself feel so much bigger.

Now get the f*ck back on topic.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thus spake Henning Brauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage
and
   disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day
and
   I don't know what hard can I buy? :)
  Kindly ignoring that this is dicussed a thousand times in the past and
you
  can find this in the archives the answer is BSD. qmail relies on some
BSD
  FFS semantics not 100% followed by linux' ext2fs for example.
 
 Troll, troll, troll your boat, gently down the stream... ;)
 
 The correct answer would have been: If you need to ask which operating
 system is best, you are too incompetent to run a server on the
Internet.
 
 Felix
 
  





RE: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-07-02 Thread David T. Ashley

You were right, and I was wrong.

The 2G limit is now removed as of kernel 2.4.x.

Dave.

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David T. Ashley([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.06.27 20:42:50 +:
 If Free BSD breaks the 2G limit, I'd go with Free BSD.

what 2g limit?
/k

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Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-07-02 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach

David T. Ashley([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.07.02 12:46:24 +:
 You were right, and I was wrong.
 
 The 2G limit is now removed as of kernel 2.4.x.

*BSD != Linux

/k

 
 Dave.
 
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  If Free BSD breaks the 2G limit, I'd go with Free BSD.
 
 what 2g limit?
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RE: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-07-02 Thread Jeremy Suo-Anttila

*BSD ! = Does NOT equal linux


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David T. Ashley([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.07.02 12:46:24 +:
 You were right, and I was wrong.

 The 2G limit is now removed as of kernel 2.4.x.

*BSD != Linux

/k


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  If Free BSD breaks the 2G limit, I'd go with Free BSD.

 what 2g limit?
 /k

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Re: OT: Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-07-01 Thread Stuart Krivis



--On Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:18:02 PM + Uwe Ohse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 just feels like a system, rather than a hodge-podge of parts. Solaris
 also  has this feel to it.

 How do you manage to ignore the /usr/ucb (and xpg4 and ...) compatibility
 braindamage?

I just ignore it. :-)

I admit that I was doing a wee bit of trolling in that there has been a lot 
of Slowlaris sentiment on this list.

I do prefer Solaris on SPARC. That's my personal preference and that's 
that. It has worked well for me.

I'm also a *BSD fan. I would choose FreeBSD first for x86 hardware. I also 
like NeXT/OPENSTEP and used that successfully for a long time. And I just 
bought a Mac so I can run OS X.

It's Linux that leaves me a bit cold. It's good, and Debian is quite 
impressive in many ways. I even installed SGI's XFS port with RH 7.1 and 
it's quite competent. But Linux still feels chaotic and the documentation 
sucks.

Just my opinion. And I did preface the subject of my reply with an OT so 
that it could be ignored more readily.







Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-29 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach

David T. Ashley([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.06.27 20:42:50 +:
 If Free BSD breaks the 2G limit, I'd go with Free BSD.

what 2g limit?
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Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-28 Thread Henning Brauer

On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 09:22:02PM -0300, Federico Edelman Anaya wrote:
 What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage and
 disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day and
 I don't know what hard can I buy? :)

Kindly ignoring that this is dicussed a thousand times in the past and you
can find this in the archives the answer is BSD. qmail relies on some BSD
FFS semantics not 100% followed by linux' ext2fs for example.

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Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-28 Thread Henning Brauer

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 01:07:56AM -0400, Niles Rowland wrote:
 Actually, Linux and FreeBSD are the systems of choice in startup porn
 companies because of their low cost.  Once a company begins to move
 major traffic they find that low cost systems have too many
 limitations to handle what the leaders of the company want to do.
 This is when they use their new found wealth to buy Solaris.

How much did sun pay to make you say this? Slowlaris is crap. go with bsd. 

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Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-28 Thread Alex Povolotsky

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 11:44:12AM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote:
  Actually, Linux and FreeBSD are the systems of choice in startup porn
  companies because of their low cost.  Once a company begins to move
 How much did sun pay to make you say this? Slowlaris is crap. go with bsd. 
He just can't make difference between ftp.cdrom.com and pornosite...

Alex.



OT: Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-28 Thread Stuart Krivis



--On Thursday, June 28, 2001 1:40 AM -0400 List Monkey 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 This is when they use their new found wealth to buy Solaris.

 Oh, give me a BREAK. What, do you work for Sun?


I would choose Solaris first for a high-volume web server. Suns have been 
more reliable in my experience than any PC-based OS.

I've heard that qmail isn't happy on Solaris, but I figure that's a qmail 
problem. :-)

FreeBSD is also a very respectable OS. I wouldn't have any problem with it, 
but I just think of Solaris first. Linux I have mixed emotions about. It's 
good, but it just doesn't feel solid to me. It feels like a bunch of stuff 
that somebody jammed together. Perhaps the excellent Solaris and FreeBSD 
documentation has me spoiled.

FreeBSD has a really coherent feel to it. It's hard to describe, but it 
just feels like a system, rather than a hodge-podge of parts. Solaris also 
has this feel to it.

I prefer Debian for Linux, and it really is quite good. But somehow it just 
isn't what I'd choose first for a production box.




Re: OT: Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-28 Thread Henning Brauer

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 07:03:44AM -0400, Stuart Krivis wrote:
 I would choose Solaris first for a high-volume web server. Suns have been 
 more reliable in my experience than any PC-based OS.

come on, stop trolling. on slowlaris fork() is unbelievable slow. slowlaris
is a very bad choice for any internet server. fork() is one of the most
important functions here. not only for qmail but for nearly any server,
including apache.
For the reliability you really wan't to get reasonable hardware. running any
BSD on it and you have a very reliable system. I'd prefer OpenBSD over
FreeBSD, but that's personal choice.

 I've heard that qmail isn't happy on Solaris, but I figure that's a qmail 
 problem. :-)

no, it's a slowlaris problem.


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Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-28 Thread Ari Arantes Filho

Linux using ReiserFS has no more limit of 2Gb file size.


- Original Message - 
From: David T. Ashley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD


Just be careful about Linux because it has a maximum 2G file size (size for
a single file).  This can get in the way of some search engines which build
large random-access files that exceed 2G.  But it should not pose any kind
of a problem for mail, especially if MAILDIR format is used.

I understand that Free BSD and Linux are the overwhelming choices of the
Internet pornography industry.  That is a good technical figure of merit,
because it means these servers are stable (for HTTP) when getting lots and
lots of hits.

If Free BSD breaks the 2G limit, I'd go with Free BSD.

Dave.

-Original Message-
From: root [mailto:root]On Behalf Of Federico Edelman Anaya
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD


What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage and
disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day and
I don't know what hard can I buy? :)


Thanks very much!







Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-28 Thread Sean C Truman

Niles,

Wrong sorry. Actually the reason why most companies choose to have
Solaris, Is that Wall Street (If your in the US and a technology company
wanting to go public) will look at the OS that your company uses and it does
have some effect on what your IPO is going to be.

Sean

From: Niles Rowland Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:07 AM


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I understand that Free BSD and Linux are the overwhelming choices of
 the
  Internet pornography industry.  That is a good technical figure of
 merit,
  because it means these servers are stable (for HTTP) when getting
 lots and
  lots of hits.
 

 Actually, Linux and FreeBSD are the systems of choice in startup porn
 companies because of their low cost.  Once a company begins to move
 major traffic they find that low cost systems have too many
 limitations to handle what the leaders of the company want to do.
 This is when they use their new found wealth to buy Solaris.







Re: OT: Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-28 Thread Uwe Ohse

On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 07:03:44AM -0400, Stuart Krivis wrote:

 I would choose Solaris first for a high-volume web server. Suns have been 
 more reliable in my experience than any PC-based OS.

Sun hardware, yes. Solaris, now.
Solaris is slow, buggy and eats more resources than i could believe.

 
 I've heard that qmail isn't happy on Solaris, but I figure that's a qmail 
 problem. :-)

can you imagine the pain a solaris admin has when he thinks of inetd?
every fork/exec cycles burns 8 or 9 times as much cpu power than
under reasonable operating systems.

 
 FreeBSD is also a very respectable OS. I wouldn't have any problem with it, 
 but I just think of Solaris first. 

A misjudgement.


 just feels like a system, rather than a hodge-podge of parts. Solaris also 
 has this feel to it.

How do you manage to ignore the /usr/ucb (and xpg4 and ...) compatibility
braindamage?

Regards, Uwe



RE: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-28 Thread Frank Tanner

Linux running Kernel 2.4.x has done away with the 2GB limit.  No need for
ReiserFS or XFS to solve this problem.

As an FYI.  One of the largest search engines on the net runs a Red Hat
Linux farm.  Google.  So it can't be all bad.

# -Original Message-
# From: Ari Arantes Filho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
# Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 5:00 AM
# To: David T. Ashley; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Subject: Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD
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#
# Linux using ReiserFS has no more limit of 2Gb file size.
#
#
# - Original Message -
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# To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:42 PM
# Subject: RE: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD
#
#
# Just be careful about Linux because it has a maximum 2G file size
# (size for
# a single file).  This can get in the way of some search engines
# which build
# large random-access files that exceed 2G.  But it should not pose any kind
# of a problem for mail, especially if MAILDIR format is used.
#
# I understand that Free BSD and Linux are the overwhelming choices of the
# Internet pornography industry.  That is a good technical figure of merit,
# because it means these servers are stable (for HTTP) when getting lots and
# lots of hits.
#
# If Free BSD breaks the 2G limit, I'd go with Free BSD.
#
# Dave.
#
# -Original Message-
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# Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:22 PM
# To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Subject: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD
#
#
# What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage and
# disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day and
# I don't know what hard can I buy? :)
#
#
# Thanks very much!
#
#
#
#




Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-28 Thread Federico Edelman Anaya

Hi!


Sean Chittenden wrote:

  What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage and
  disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day and
  I don't know what hard can I buy? :)

 Solaris is slow to fork and qmail makes liberal use of that


But ... Sun is not a valid option??


 call, so solaris is out of the question.  After that, it's close between
 FreeBSD and Linux.  I'm pretty biased towards from FreeBSD because of
 its development environment and the thoughtfulness of their engineering
 team (Linux is pretty hackish).  FreeBSD with softupdates turned on will
 give you the best performance and reliability though amongst the three
 options.  Best of luck, but be careful, this smells like a troll.  -sc

 --
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RE: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-28 Thread David T. Ashley

Thanks for that info.  I was skeptical, and I have a 2.4.x kernel on my
Linux box, so I tried it.  You are right.  The 2**31 - 1 byte limit is gone.

I am 38.  I am old.  Early Alzheimer's.

-Original Message-
From: Frank Tanner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 8:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD


Linux running Kernel 2.4.x has done away with the 2GB limit.  No need for
ReiserFS or XFS to solve this problem.

As an FYI.  One of the largest search engines on the net runs a Red Hat
Linux farm.  Google.  So it can't be all bad.

# -Original Message-
# From: Ari Arantes Filho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
# Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 5:00 AM
# To: David T. Ashley; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Subject: Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD
#
#
# Linux using ReiserFS has no more limit of 2Gb file size.
#
#
# - Original Message -
# From: David T. Ashley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 9:42 PM
# Subject: RE: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD
#
#
# Just be careful about Linux because it has a maximum 2G file size
# (size for
# a single file).  This can get in the way of some search engines
# which build
# large random-access files that exceed 2G.  But it should not pose any kind
# of a problem for mail, especially if MAILDIR format is used.
#
# I understand that Free BSD and Linux are the overwhelming choices of the
# Internet pornography industry.  That is a good technical figure of merit,
# because it means these servers are stable (for HTTP) when getting lots and
# lots of hits.
#
# If Free BSD breaks the 2G limit, I'd go with Free BSD.
#
# Dave.
#
# -Original Message-
# From: root [mailto:root]On Behalf Of Federico Edelman Anaya
# Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:22 PM
# To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Subject: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD
#
#
# What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage and
# disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day and
# I don't know what hard can I buy? :)
#
#
# Thanks very much!
#
#
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Please, please, stop... RE: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-28 Thread Fabrice Scemama

Please, let's go back to a qmail discussion.





Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-27 Thread Adam McKenna

On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 09:22:02PM -0300, Federico Edelman Anaya wrote:
 What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage and
 disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day and
 I don't know what hard can I buy? :)

go away, troll.

--Adam



RE: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-27 Thread David T. Ashley

Just be careful about Linux because it has a maximum 2G file size (size for
a single file).  This can get in the way of some search engines which build
large random-access files that exceed 2G.  But it should not pose any kind
of a problem for mail, especially if MAILDIR format is used.

I understand that Free BSD and Linux are the overwhelming choices of the
Internet pornography industry.  That is a good technical figure of merit,
because it means these servers are stable (for HTTP) when getting lots and
lots of hits.

If Free BSD breaks the 2G limit, I'd go with Free BSD.

Dave.

-Original Message-
From: root [mailto:root]On Behalf Of Federico Edelman Anaya
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD


What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage and
disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day and
I don't know what hard can I buy? :)


Thanks very much!





Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-27 Thread Sean Chittenden

 What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage and
 disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day and
 I don't know what hard can I buy? :)

Solaris is slow to fork and qmail makes liberal use of that
call, so solaris is out of the question.  After that, it's close between
FreeBSD and Linux.  I'm pretty biased towards from FreeBSD because of
its development environment and the thoughtfulness of their engineering
team (Linux is pretty hackish).  FreeBSD with softupdates turned on will
give you the best performance and reliability though amongst the three
options.  Best of luck, but be careful, this smells like a troll.  -sc

-- 
Sean Chittenden

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Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-27 Thread Niles Rowland



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I understand that Free BSD and Linux are the overwhelming choices of
the
 Internet pornography industry.  That is a good technical figure of
merit,
 because it means these servers are stable (for HTTP) when getting
lots and
 lots of hits.


Actually, Linux and FreeBSD are the systems of choice in startup porn
companies because of their low cost.  Once a company begins to move
major traffic they find that low cost systems have too many
limitations to handle what the leaders of the company want to do.
This is when they use their new found wealth to buy Solaris.





Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-27 Thread Sean Chittenden

  I understand that Free BSD and Linux are the overwhelming choices of the
  Internet pornography industry.  That is a good technical figure of merit,
  because it means these servers are stable (for HTTP) when getting lots and
  lots of hits.
 
 Actually, Linux and FreeBSD are the systems of choice in startup porn
 companies because of their low cost.  Once a company begins to move
 major traffic they find that low cost systems have too many
 limitations to handle what the leaders of the company want to do.
 This is when they use their new found wealth to buy Solaris.

This is now officially a troll.  So next time you see an
installation for a porn site pushing over 300Mbps that's running
Solaris, show me/tell me: I'll be amazed.  Linux is what most startup
porn joints use because they're new to the business and Linux has hype
and media attention.  Once the traffic gets up there, the traffic starts
to exceed 60-120Mbps, then you'll see a switch from Linux to FreeBSD.  
In there somewhere you'll see them experiment with Solaris and watch it
crumble and fail miserably in the Mbps / $ calculation.  Solaris is
good for running on redundant hardware where you can hot-swap anything
out at any time to maintain real 24/7.  Go back to your hobbit hole or
email me and I'll setup a different list to talk about the merits of
various operating systems that I've used in my day and the various
installations/companies I've done work for.

This thread is now officially dead unless resurrected on a
different mailing list.  -sc

-- 
Sean Chittenden

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Re: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-27 Thread List Monkey

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I understand that Free BSD and Linux are the overwhelming choices of
 the
  Internet pornography industry.  That is a good technical figure of
 merit,
  because it means these servers are stable (for HTTP) when getting
 lots and
  lots of hits.
 
 
 Actually, Linux and FreeBSD are the systems of choice in startup porn
 companies because of their low cost.  Once a company begins to move
 major traffic they find that low cost systems have too many
 limitations to handle what the leaders of the company want to do.
 This is when they use their new found wealth to buy Solaris.

Oh, give me a BREAK. What, do you work for Sun?

If you want to troll, may I suggest Lake Ontario, with 4 shiners, for
good salmon fishing.




RE: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD

2001-06-27 Thread John Doe

Umm..wasn't the 2G file limit fixed in the 2.0 kernels?


--- David T. Ashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just be careful about Linux because it has a maximum 2G file size (size for
 a single file).  This can get in the way of some search engines which build
 large random-access files that exceed 2G.  But it should not pose any kind
 of a problem for mail, especially if MAILDIR format is used.
 
 I understand that Free BSD and Linux are the overwhelming choices of the
 Internet pornography industry.  That is a good technical figure of merit,
 because it means these servers are stable (for HTTP) when getting lots and
 lots of hits.
 
 If Free BSD breaks the 2G limit, I'd go with Free BSD.
 
 Dave.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: root [mailto:root]On Behalf Of Federico Edelman Anaya
 Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:22 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Solaris vs. Linux vs. FreeBSD
 
 
 What's is the best OS for run Qmail (and/or Ezmlm)? What advantage and
 disadvantage has each one? I'll need send two millions mails per day and
 I don't know what hard can I buy? :)
 
 
 Thanks very much!
 
 


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