Re: adding an outgoing-only smtp server?

2000-11-15 Thread James T. Perry


Hi Dave,

I just wanted to thank you for giving me clarity (which also
set off a number of chain-reactions in my head :).

Best regards,

jamie

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Re: adding an outgoing-only smtp server?

2000-11-15 Thread Dave Sill

"James T. Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I was wondering whether to include host2 also as an MX in the
>dns records although host1 is the only MX handling incoming and
>part of outgoing (none from host2).

No, only SMTP servers should be listed in MX's.

>If I'm correct, I don't need an MX entry for host2 in the
>dns records right? (since it shouldn't respond to incoming
>messages)

Right.

>But if host2 sends email out as host1 without host2 listed
>as an MX, wouldn't the IP address or "return-path" resolve
>back to an "unknown" host, or get denied from the remote
>smtp server?

A clever remote server might reverse lookup host2's IP address,
yes. I think it'd be sufficient to set control/helohost to host2's
FQDN. I don't know of any MTA's that check the return path hostname
against the HELO hostname.

>Where-as, if host2 was listed also as an MX, qmail-smtpd is
>not running on it so won't the messages get deferred/bounced
>if any incoming connections were attempted?

Yes, they would.

-Dave



Re: adding an outgoing-only smtp server?

2000-11-15 Thread James T. Perry


Hi Dave,

Dave Sill wrote:

> OK, so where are you stuck?

oops, sorry ;)
I must have sent out the message in the middle of my racing
thoughts.

I was wondering whether to include host2 also as an MX in the
dns records although host1 is the only MX handling incoming and
part of outgoing (none from host2).

> Install qmail on host1 and host2, but skip qmail-smtpd on
> host2. Configure host2 to pretend to be either the MX
> or host1 (e.g., in control/me replace host2 with host1).

Wow, that simple?
Thank you for your input.
 (now I need to find myself another box :)

OTOH, this is where I am confused still:
If I'm correct, I don't need an MX entry for host2 in the
dns records right? (since it shouldn't respond to incoming
messages)

But if host2 sends email out as host1 without host2 listed
as an MX, wouldn't the IP address or "return-path" resolve
back to an "unknown" host, or get denied from the remote
smtp server?

Where-as, if host2 was listed also as an MX, qmail-smtpd is
not running on it so won't the messages get deferred/bounced
if any incoming connections were attempted?

(sorry for this confusion)

Thanks again.

cheers,

jamie

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Re: adding an outgoing-only smtp server?

2000-11-15 Thread Dave Sill

"James T. Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>What I would like to do is this:
>  host1 -> primary MX for incoming and outgoing
>  host2 -> outgoing only
>
>host1 will be used for "regular" email traffic, with
>legit user accounts, while host2 will be mainly used
>for pumping out big loads of outgoing email (handling
>large lists).
>
>All bounces (and ofcourse all incoming email) will go
>to host1.
>Limited number of admins will be handling the lists on
>host2, so all email intended to go out to list members
>will be injected at host2 (e.g. not relayed from any
>other hosts).

OK, so where are you stuck? Install qmail on host1 and host2, but skip
qmail-smtpd on host2. Configure host2 to pretend to be either the MX
or host1 (e.g., in control/me replace host2 with host1).

-Dave