Re: Unsubscribe from qmail mailing lists

[FRANCO FERNANDES]

Hi!,

I had subscribed to receive qmail mailing lists messages by sending an
empty message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] from my subscribed address i.e
[EMAIL PROTECTED], now i want to unsubscribe from it as i have subscribed
with my other address.
I tried sending an empty message from the same address to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], but it gave me an error message which is
as below,can you help me with this  it is urgent.

Thanks & Regards
Franco.F

Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.

Acknowledgment: The address

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

is not on this mailing list.


See http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail.html for more information about qmail.

Please read http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail/faq.html before sending your
question to the qmail mailing list.


--- Here are the ezmlm command addresses.

I can handle administrative requests automatically.
Just send an empty note to any of these addresses:

   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   Receive future messages sent to the mailing list.

   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   Stop receiving messages.

   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   Retrieve a copy of message 12345 from the archive.

DO NOT SEND ADMINISTRATIVE REQUESTS TO THE MAILING LIST!
If you do, I won't see them, and subscribers will yell at you.

To specify [EMAIL PROTECTED] as your subscription address, send mail
to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
I'll send a confirmation message to that address; when you receive that
message, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.


--- Below this line is a copy of the request I received.

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: (qmail 17465 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 11:00:43 -
Received: from unknown (HELO support-34) (203.197.56.227)
  by muncher.math.uic.edu with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 11:00:43 -
Received: from 192.68.1.200 by support-34 ([192.68.1.34] running VPOP3)
with ESMTP for
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:25:07 +0530
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4  June 8, 2000
Message-ID: 
From: "FRANCO FERNANDES" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:35:03 +0530

Re: How to Unsubscribe from qmail mailing lists

[FRANCO FERNANDES]

Hi!,

I had subscribed to receive qmail mailing lists messages by sending an
empty message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] from my subscribed address i.e
[EMAIL PROTECTED], now i want to unsubscribe from it as i have subscribed
with my other address.
I tried sending an empty message from the same address to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], but it gave me an error message which is
as below,can you help me with this  it is urgent.

Thanks & Regards
Franco.F

Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.

Acknowledgment: The address

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

is not on this mailing list.


See http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail.html for more information about qmail.

Please read http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail/faq.html before sending your
question to the qmail mailing list.


--- Here are the ezmlm command addresses.

I can handle administrative requests automatically.
Just send an empty note to any of these addresses:

   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   Receive future messages sent to the mailing list.

   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   Stop receiving messages.

   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   Retrieve a copy of message 12345 from the archive.

DO NOT SEND ADMINISTRATIVE REQUESTS TO THE MAILING LIST!
If you do, I won't see them, and subscribers will yell at you.

To specify [EMAIL PROTECTED] as your subscription address, send mail
to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
I'll send a confirmation message to that address; when you receive that
message, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.


--- Below this line is a copy of the request I received.

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received: (qmail 17465 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2001 11:00:43 -
Received: from unknown (HELO support-34) (203.197.56.227)
  by muncher.math.uic.edu with SMTP; 7 Aug 2001 11:00:43 -
Received: from 192.68.1.200 by support-34 ([192.68.1.34] running VPOP3)
with ESMTP for
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:25:07 +0530
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4  June 8, 2000
Message-ID: 
From: "FRANCO FERNANDES" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 15:35:03 +0530

Unable to unsubscribe

[Johan Van Gompel]

I sent numerous mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but to no avail.
Can someone please give me some pointers?

--
Johan Van Gompel

-- 
Aufgepasst - jetzt viele 1&1 New WebHosting Pakete ohne
Einrichtungsgebuehr + 1 Monat Grundgebuehrbefreiung!
http://puretec.de/index.html?ac=OM.PU.PU003K00736T0492a

Unsubscribe efforts thwarted by missing envelope sender

[Alex Pennace]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 02:44:27PM +0200, P?l Fr. Johansen wrote:
> My ISP does not suport RETURN-PATH ...!!!

Complain to your ISP.

Re: Unsubscribe from qmail list

[Niles Rowland]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You Wrote:
>
> >I am helpless !!!
>
> Send an email to <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, just as
> it stated in the informational message you received when you
subscribed...
>

In case there is a problem figuring out exactly which address is
subscribed, look at the headers for a line like:
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To unsubscribe the above user, send mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Niles

Unsubscribe from qmail list

[Roger Walker]

You Wrote:

>I am helpless  !!!

Send an email to , just as
it stated in the informational message you received when you subscribed...

-- 
Roger Walker
Tier III Messaging/News Team
Internet Applications, National Consumer IP
TELUS Corporation 780-493-2471

Re: unsubscribe thomas.flueeli@swissonline.ch

[Harald Hanche-Olsen]

+ Thomas Flüeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

| please unsubscribe me!!

Did you notice the header line in all mail from this list saying

Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm

?  *Please* send a message to the indicated address, then follow
instructions.

- Harald

unsubscribe thomas.flueeli@swissonline.ch

[Thomas Flüeli]

please unsubscribe me!!

thanks

unsubscribe ld@krasn.ru

[Andrey V. Malyshev]

unsubscribe

unsubscribe mathew.chandy@eximsoft.com

[Mathew Chandy]

unsubscribe andy@angelsk.ru

[Andrey Shirshov]

unsubscribe ouldm@linuxatbusiness.com qmail@list.cr.yp.to

[Mohamed Ould]

unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

unsubscribe ouldm@linux-at-business.com qmail@list.cr.yp.to

[Mohamed Ould]

unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

unsubscribe ouldm@linux-at-business.com

[Mohamed Ould]

unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

unsubscribe aingram@galstar.com

[arthur ingram]

Unsubscribe me

[Joy Hundley]

Joy Hundley
Internet Services
Service Transport
800-528-1616 ext. 240

 Visit us on the Web at www.service-transport.com

Re: Unsubscribe Me

[Mohamed Yasin]

Unsubscribe

Unsubscribe Me

[Pål Fr. Johansen]

Unsubscribe

Unsubscribe Me

[Mathew Chandy]

Unsubscribe

please unsubscribe me

[Webmaster]

Unsubscribe Me

[colette tostivint]

Unsubscribe

Unsubscribe Me

[rom chen]

Unsubscribe

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices
http://auctions.yahoo.com/

Unsubscribe Me

[Thong Woon Thai]

Unsubscribe Me

[Terry Bilskie]

Unsubscribe



NOTE: This e-mail message may contain information that may be privileged,
confidential, and exempt from disclosure.  It is intended for use only by
the person to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message in
error, please do not forward or use this information in any way, delete it
immediately, and contact the sender as soon as possible by the reply option
or by telephone at the telephone number listed (if available).  Thank you.

Unsubscribe Me

[Aleixo Fernandes]

Unsubscribe 

Unsubscribe Me

[Jasonk]

Unsubscribe Me

[Ceasur]

Re: Unsubscribe Doesn't Work

[Andy Bradford]

Thus said Jim Darrough on Sun, 13 May 2001 09:27:30 PDT:

>  I have sent three blank emails to 
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in an attempt to unsubscribe three times 
> without any apparent effect. Anyone got a better idea?

Maybe you're not subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], you may have 
subscribed to a sublist.

Andy
p.s. read the headers of the emails...
-- 
[---[system uptime]]
  1:17am  up 5 days,  3:54,  4 users,  load average: 1.11, 1.12, 1.09

Re: Unsubscribe Doesn't Work

[Brett Randall]

Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] the address you subscribed with?

>>>>> "Jim" == Jim Darrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Help!
>  I have sent three blank emails to
>  "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in an attempt to
>  unsubscribe three times without any apparent effect. Anyone
>  got a better idea?


> Thanks, Jim Darrough

> Jim Darrough, ARS KI7AY
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.ki7ay.com

-- 
"Hardware, n.: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked."

- The Devil's Dictionary to Computer Studies 

Unsubscribe Doesn't Work

[Jim Darrough]

Help!

 I have sent three blank emails to 
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in an attempt to unsubscribe three times 
without any apparent effect. Anyone got a better idea?

Thanks, Jim Darrough

Jim Darrough, ARS KI7AY
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.ki7ay.com

unsubscribe me PLEASE - can't get qmail-unsubscribe@ to work

[Col Wilson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to unsubscribe

[Russell Nelson]

Paulo Correia writes:
 > Hello all,
 > 
 > Sorry for this kind of mail, but i've tried to unsubscribe through the 
 > automatic way but it didn't work. Probably because this e-mail has several 
 > aliases.

I can't help you with this.  Nobody can.  You have to do it yourself.
You'll have to look at the Return-Path header to determine the email
address at which you are receiving the mail.  Then, send a piece of
email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Of
course, you should substitute the address you found in the Return-Path
header for the one I included.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Watch out!  He's got an
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | opinion, and he's not
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | afraid to share it!

How to unsubscribe

[Paulo Correia]

Hello all,

Sorry for this kind of mail, but i've tried to unsubscribe through the 
automatic way but it didn't work. Probably because this e-mail has several 
aliases.
Thanks in advance

Paulo Correia

how to unsubscribe?

[weiyf]

Re: How do I unsubscribe

[Sumith Ail]

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Shane Wise writes: 

> As much as I hate people who do what I am doing now 
> 
> How do I unsubscribe?!?! 
> 
> Thanks!
> Shane Wise
> For Current Nashville Weather
> http://www.nashvilleweather.net 
> 
 

How do I unsubscribe

[Shane Wise]

As much as I hate people who do what I am doing now

How do I unsubscribe?!?!

Thanks!
Shane Wise
For Current Nashville Weather
http://www.nashvilleweather.net

unsubscribe

[Casey Allen Shobe]

unsubscribe

-- 
Casey Allen Shobe - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://mail.aixos.net

Now offering free E-Mail addresses to anyone who is tired of
slow servers and banner advertisements.  POP3, IMAP, Webmail
access available.  E-mail me with a username for an account!

Re: unsubscribe ??

[Sam Trenholme]

Kevin asked:

> how do I unsubscribe?
> there is no info on qmail.org??

Normally, we charge a one-time fee of $59.95 for this service, as Peter has
explained.  However, I am offering a special contest, since it is the year
2001 (a Qmail odyssey).

The winner of this contest will get a message from the Qmail list server 
asking for their subscription to be confirmed.  In order to enter this 
contest, simply reply to this message or send an entry form to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I wish you the best of luck!

And, oh, Peter, you know that Dan's server runs Open-BSD, so those Russian
thermonuclear devices will not harm the server.  He just has to enter (and
hopefully win) the contest, just like everyone else has to.

- Sam

Re: unsubscribe ??

[Peter Cavender]

Read the first message you got when you subscribed to the list, it tells
you how.

Since the list is run by ezmlm, maybe you should look at the documentation
for it.

I also offer a service where I can get you unsubscribed for $59.95.  I
accept payment by paypal or cash, but you must be willing to type an email
message exactly as I instruct from the proper address.  If you are
unable to do so, I can subcontract with Kelly Temporary services to send a
computer-literate secretary to your site to do the typing for
you.  Additional fees equalling their charges will apply.

If none of these options are acceptable, I can fly to your site, and for
$50 an hour plus actual expenses, perform the unsubscribe at your
location.

If this fails, we can hire a negotiation/moderation consulting firm to
contact DJB personally to arrainge an unsubscribe.

If he is unwilling to negotiate, I can hire team of lawyers in
his jurisdiction to take the matter before the courts.

If this proves fruitless, and you are determined, a team of mercenaries
equipped with white phosphorus grenades may be able to take out the server
hosting this list. (this offer may not be available at all locations).

But if the sever is housed in a hardened bunker, repeated strikes with
thermonuclear devices may be necessary to get you unsubscibed.  I can
contact former USSR personnel for current rates.

Unfortunately, since the internet was designed to deal with catastrophic
faults of this exact nature, you still may not be removed from the mailing
list.

If repeated strikes with multi-megaton devies are needed, my fees will
includes the cost of constructing a personal sustainable biosphere.

Local taxes will apply.

If you are still reading this and think I am serious, please be advised
that this is satyrical.   RTFFMYG! (read the first frigging message you
got)

--P


On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> how do I unsubscribe?
> there is no info on qmail.org??
> 
> Kevin
> 

unsubscribe ??

[kevin]

how do I unsubscribe?
there is no info on qmail.org??

Kevin

Re: unsubscribe rkirby@mylineup.com

[Noah Sematimba]

I think he has been using majordomo in the past. It is expected.

On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> I would think someone skilled enough to run a SMTP server would know how
> to unsubscribe from a mailing list.
> 
> With ezmlm-style lists, you send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> In this case, that would be [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> - Sam
> 
> > unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> 
> 

Re: unsubscribe rkirby@mylineup.com

[qmail]

I would think someone skilled enough to run a SMTP server would know how
to unsubscribe from a mailing list.

With ezmlm-style lists, you send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In this case, that would be [EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Sam

> unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

unsubscribe rkirby@mylineup.com

[Raymond Kirby]

unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

unsubscribe qmail

[lyxmoo]

unsubscribe qmail

unsubscribe qmail

[Pierre-Yves Deslandes]

unsubscribe qmail

Re: how do I unsubscribe here?

[ksemat]

mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, ed lim wrote:

> How do I unsubscribe from this mailing list?
> 
> 
> 

how do I unsubscribe here?

[ed lim]

How do I unsubscribe from this mailing list?

Re: unsubscribe qmail

[Russell Nelson]

Alex Khanin writes:
 > unsubscribe qmail

Done, or at least it will be when you reply to the confirmation
message.  But why didn't you just send mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] yourself??  Wouldn't that have been
faster?  Remember that address, folks:

  vvv
  vvv
  vvv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
  ^^^
  ^^^
  ^^^

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com | A steak, bacon
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | and cheese sandwich is
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | offensive to every major
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX   | religion.

unsubscribe qmail

[Alex Khanin]

unsubscribe qmail

can't unsubscribe

[Liberty]

Does anyone know the proper address to send an
unsubscribe request for this list?
Thanks,
Gene

=
Gene Whitehead
Founder
American Sons of Liberty
American Sons of Liberty Online:
http://www.americansonsofliberty.com

Re: Apologies: Unsubscribe

[janjan]

Please include me too. sorry.

On Fri, 10 Nov 2000, Roger Walker wrote:

>   Sorry to post this to the list. I have posted several times to
> both <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and
> continue to receive posts. Due to the volume, I am unable to keep up with
> it all, so only join periodically for short periods. It looks like
> something is just not working properly.
> 
>   If anyone knows the list owner, perhaps they could contact him and
> have him check things out, and unsubscribe me.
> 
>   Sorry, and thanks.
> 
> 

-- 
-
Gene Frederick F. Boniel
Systems Administrator   
HPS Software and Communication Corp. 
Pilipino Internet Cebu
mobile no.  : 0917-9203704
Contact no. : 3447847
-

Apologies: Unsubscribe

[Roger Walker]

Sorry to post this to the list. I have posted several times to
both <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and
continue to receive posts. Due to the volume, I am unable to keep up with
it all, so only join periodically for short periods. It looks like
something is just not working properly.

If anyone knows the list owner, perhaps they could contact him and
have him check things out, and unsubscribe me.

Sorry, and thanks.

-- 
Roger Walker <http://www.rat-hole.com>
Voice/Fax 1-780-440-2685 <http://www.man-from-linux.com>
"HIS Pain; YOUR Gain"<http://www.rope.net>
<http://www.rope.net/signature.html>

Unsubscribe qmail (fpo)

[Toby Steel]

Title: Unsubscribe qmail (fpo)





unsubscribe qmail


 


 Toby Steel (E-mail 2).vcf

Unsubscribe qmail (fpo)

[Franck PORCHER]

unsubscribe qmail

Re: unsubscribe qmail

[markd]

On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 03:45:40PM +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote:
> Saturday, October 28, 2000, 3:06:42 PM, you wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 02:29:11AM +0100, Ricardo Cerqueira wrote:
> 
> > You might care to read cr.yp.to/immhf.htm for a more general
> > discussion on mail headers.
> 
> HTTP 404 - File not found

Sorry. .html

Now wouldn't it be neat if URLs included a checksum and that your MUA
only identified them as such if the checksum matched? Blue for a good
URL, red for a syntactically correct, my with a checksum error.

That would of course then cover mailto: as well!



Regards.

Re: Re[2]: unsubscribe qmail

[Brett Randall]

> "Jarle" == Jarle Hammen Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Jarle>  HTTP 404 - File not found

Let's see...have we ever tried, just for the sake of it, appending an
'l' to the end of a '.htm' to just see if it works?
-- 
"People say Microsoft payed $14M for using the Rolling Stones song
'Start me up' in their commercials. This is wrong. Microsoft payed
$14M only for a part of the song. For instance, they didn't use the
line 'You'll make a grown man cry'."

Re[2]: unsubscribe qmail

[Jarle Hammen Knudsen]

Saturday, October 28, 2000, 3:06:42 PM, you wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 02:29:11AM +0100, Ricardo Cerqueira wrote:

> You might care to read cr.yp.to/immhf.htm for a more general
> discussion on mail headers.

HTTP 404 - File not found

-- 
  Jarle H. Knudsen

Re: unsubscribe qmail

[markd]

On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 02:29:11AM +0100, Ricardo Cerqueira wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 03:39:43PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hmm. Maybe I'm confused. How do people think the envelope sender
> > value is determined in the first instant? Eg, how does Eudora go from
> > a mail in a window to "Mail From: " in SMTP? Or how does qmail-inject
> > for that matter?
> >
> 
> qmail-inject uses environment variables for From (not From:).

What are you talking about? What does "From (not From:)" mean?

If you deduced this from qmail/djb-docs, all of these references
(unless specifically talking about final delivery) mean the "From:"
header. You might care to read cr.yp.to/immhf.htm for a more general
discussion on mail headers.

The only "From" that qmail-inject deals with is "From:". If you think
otherwise show us some output from qmail-inject -n that has this
mysterious "From (not From:)" that you refer to.

If you are referring to the "From " line, this is not a mail header,
that any part of the mail injection deals with. Instead, "From " is a
very poorly defined delimiter in V7 mailboxes that is generated at
final delivery which has nothing to do with injection.

If you still don't believe me and you don't want to bother explain
by demonstration, have a look at this code from qmail-inject.c:

void defaultfrommake()
{
 ...
 df.t[df.len].s = "From";
 df.t[df.len].slen = 4;
 ++df.len;
 df.t[df.len].type = TOKEN822_COLON;

It's the only piece of code that has "From" and it looks like "From:" to me.

> For those who do not use qmail-inject directly (Like those using remote
> SMTP with Eudora, to use your example), the "From" is generated by the MUA.
> So yes, those cases are "hopeless". "From:" will almost certainly be the base
> for "From"

I think you're confused. There is no "From" that is separate from "From:".

If you think otherwise, inject a mail into qmail via SMTP using a mail client
like Eudora and show us the queue file with this "From" header you refer to.
(Use a target address that cannot be delivered so you can catch the queue
entry).

> > The answer is that it's mostly derived from a parse of the various
> > headers in the original mail when it's injected into the MTA. In
> > many cases the most likely header that will be used to derive the
> > envelope sender will be the From: header. So to suggest that the
> > unparsed From: header is a better place to look for the sender
> > seems a bit silly to me because in many cases the envelope sender is
> > simply a parsed version of the From: header.
> 
> Not really. You can have very odd "From:" lines (with 8bit chars, spaces),
> but From is (or should always be) a plain old user@domain string. It's
> easier to parse, and probably less prone to error.

Are you sure you're not confusing this discussion with the "From " line
that is generated on delivery into a mailbox? Which by the way *is*
used to stash the envelope sender address, which *is* original derived
from fields like "From: ".


Regards.

Re: unsubscribe qmail

[David Dyer-Bennet]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 27 October 2000 at 15:39:43 -0700
 > >  > Actually, someone brought this up recently, and I didn't have an explanation
 > >  > for them -- why does ezmlm subscribe the envelope sender instead of the
 > >  > address in From: ?
 > > 
 > > My understanding is that the underlying belief is that the envelope
 > > sender will be configured invalidly less often.  I don't know if
 > 
 > Hmm. Maybe I'm confused. How do people think the envelope sender
 > value is determined in the first instant? Eg, how does Eudora go from
 > a mail in a window to "Mail From: " in SMTP? Or how does qmail-inject
 > for that matter?

Most of us think, if we don't pause to reflect, that the envelope
sender is applied by sendmail or qmail-inject when the mail is
submitted.  This weird thing where people read mail on their PCs is
foreign to me, and I tend to overlook it.  And in that sort of
environment, envelope sender really *is* less likely to be wrong.  But
it's such a small minority these days it hardly matters, in the real
world. 

Also, there are a number of institutions and ISPs that insist on their
users relaying through their servers, and they make sure the envelope
sender is valid.  This may still be a significant population.

But generally I agree, it would be *much* better to use the from:
header.  I've thought about going in to patch it some time, but it
hasn't made it up the priority list.
-- 
David Dyer-Bennet / Welcome to the future! / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Photos: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ 
SF: http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/ Minicon: http://www.mnstf.org/minicon/

Re: unsubscribe qmail

[Ricardo Cerqueira]

On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 03:39:43PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hmm. Maybe I'm confused. How do people think the envelope sender
> value is determined in the first instant? Eg, how does Eudora go from
> a mail in a window to "Mail From: " in SMTP? Or how does qmail-inject
> for that matter?
>

qmail-inject uses environment variables for From (not From:). Depending on your MUA, 
it can use different ones. For example, most text-mode MUAs running in 
the same machine as qmail-inject (my case) use $USER or $LOGNAME.
And the default envelope sender equals "From".
For those who do not use qmail-inject directly (Like those using remote
SMTP with Eudora, to use your example), the "From" is generated by the MUA.
So yes, those cases are "hopeless". "From:" will almost certainly be the base
for "From"
 
> The answer is that it's mostly derived from a parse of the various
> headers in the original mail when it's injected into the MTA. In
> many cases the most likely header that will be used to derive the
> envelope sender will be the From: header. So to suggest that the
> unparsed From: header is a better place to look for the sender
> seems a bit silly to me because in many cases the envelope sender is
> simply a parsed version of the From: header.

Not really. You can have very odd "From:" lines (with 8bit chars, spaces),
but From is (or should always be) a plain old user@domain string. It's
easier to parse, and probably less prone to error.

RC

-- 
+---
| Ricardo Cerqueira  
| PGP Key fingerprint  -  B7 05 13 CE 48 0A BF 1E  87 21 83 DB 28 DE 03 42 
| Novis  -  Engenharia ISP / Rede Técnica 
| Pç. Duque Saldanha, 1, 7º E / 1050-094 Lisboa / Portugal
| Tel: +351 2 1010  - Fax: +351 2 1010 4459

 PGP signature

Re: unsubscribe qmail

[janjan]

mee too!

Re: unsubscribe qmail

[Andy Bradford]

Thus said Adam McKenna on Fri, 27 Oct 2000 17:51:03 EDT:

> That's why ezmlm creates a random tag for each subscription that is sent back
> to the subscriber for confirmation.  There is no way to subscribe someone
> else to an ezmlm list unless you have access to their mail spool.

Then, what is to be done in the event that the reply-to header is set 
as well and it is different from the from?  I believe that the sender 
is the most reliable for subscription/unsubscription.  It probably 
wouldn't be hard to patch ezmlm to use from though if you wanted. :-)

Andy
-- 
[---[system uptime]]
  7:07pm  up 20 days, 22:34,  4 users,  load average: 1.06, 1.17, 1.21

Re: unsubscribe qmail

[Andy Bradford]

Thus said Daniel Augusto Fernandes on Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:07:49 -0200:

> You should look at the mail header of this message and see what's your
> address.
> The very first (mostly) is something like this:
> 
> > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Unfortunately, the return-path may not always be available... My ISP 
for instance uses exim which must be stripping the Return-Path header 
because emails that I get through them never have it.

Andy
-- 
[---[system uptime]]
  6:56pm  up 20 days, 22:23,  4 users,  load average: 1.15, 1.29, 1.25

Re: unsubscribe qmail

[markd]

>  > Actually, someone brought this up recently, and I didn't have an explanation
>  > for them -- why does ezmlm subscribe the envelope sender instead of the
>  > address in From: ?
> 
> My understanding is that the underlying belief is that the envelope
> sender will be configured invalidly less often.  I don't know if

Hmm. Maybe I'm confused. How do people think the envelope sender
value is determined in the first instant? Eg, how does Eudora go from
a mail in a window to "Mail From: " in SMTP? Or how does qmail-inject
for that matter?

The answer is that it's mostly derived from a parse of the various
headers in the original mail when it's injected into the MTA. In
many cases the most likely header that will be used to derive the
envelope sender will be the From: header. So to suggest that the
unparsed From: header is a better place to look for the sender
seems a bit silly to me because in many cases the envelope sender is
simply a parsed version of the From: header.


Regards.

Re: unsubscribe qmail

[Adam McKenna]

On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 04:03:02PM -0500, Kris Kelley wrote:
> > Actually, someone brought this up recently, and I didn't have an
> explanation
> > for them -- why does ezmlm subscribe the envelope sender instead of the
> > address in From: ?
> 
> Probably to help curb, if only slightly, the possibility of somebody
> subscribing somebody else without the latter person's knowledge.  Depending
> on your ISP, faking the envelope sender could be more difficult than faking
> the "From:" header.

That's why ezmlm creates a random tag for each subscription that is sent back
to the subscriber for confirmation.  There is no way to subscribe someone
else to an ezmlm list unless you have access to their mail spool.

--Adam

-- 
Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | "No matter how much it changes, 
http://flounder.net/publickey.html   |  technology's just a bunch of wires 
GPG: 17A4 11F7 5E7E C2E7 08AA|  connected to a bunch of other wires."
 38B0 05D0 8BF7 2C6D 110A|  Joe Rogan, _NewsRadio_
  5:49pm  up 139 days, 15:05, 11 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

Re: unsubscribe qmail

[David Dyer-Bennet]

Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes on 27 October 2000 at 15:37:01 -0400
 > On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 01:28:38PM -0400, Robin S. Socha wrote:
 > > * Landon Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001027 13:18]:
 > > > unsubscribe qmail
 > > 
 > > Now, Landon, take a look at this:
 > > http://cr.yp.to/lists.html#qmail
 > > "To subscribe, send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
 > > 
 > > Kinda makes one wonder what would happen if one sent an  empty message
 > > to [EMAIL PROTECTED], eh? And sometimes, one is also
 > > tempted to wonder if the admission test for American universities
 > > is to be able to write your own name.
 > 
 > Actually, someone brought this up recently, and I didn't have an explanation
 > for them -- why does ezmlm subscribe the envelope sender instead of the
 > address in From: ?

My understanding is that the underlying belief is that the envelope
sender will be configured invalidly less often.  I don't know if
anybody has profiled this assumption, or how you'd come up with a
sample considered representative to make such measurements on.  My
personal belief is that this is a mistake.  And of course it's the
primary cause of the very very frequent unsubscribe hassle.
-- 
David Dyer-Bennet / Welcome to the future! / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Photos: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ 
SF: http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/ Minicon: http://www.mnstf.org/minicon/

Re: unsubscribe qmail

[Kris Kelley]

> Actually, someone brought this up recently, and I didn't have an
explanation
> for them -- why does ezmlm subscribe the envelope sender instead of the
> address in From: ?

Probably to help curb, if only slightly, the possibility of somebody
subscribing somebody else without the latter person's knowledge.  Depending
on your ISP, faking the envelope sender could be more difficult than faking
the "From:" header.

---Kris Kelley

Re: unsubscribe qmail

[Adam McKenna]

On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 01:28:38PM -0400, Robin S. Socha wrote:
> * Landon Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001027 13:18]:
> > unsubscribe qmail
> 
> Now, Landon, take a look at this:
> http://cr.yp.to/lists.html#qmail
> "To subscribe, send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> 
> Kinda makes one wonder what would happen if one sent an  empty message
> to [EMAIL PROTECTED], eh? And sometimes, one is also
> tempted to wonder if the admission test for American universities
> is to be able to write your own name.

Actually, someone brought this up recently, and I didn't have an explanation
for them -- why does ezmlm subscribe the envelope sender instead of the
address in From: ?

--Adam

-- 
Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | "No matter how much it changes, 
http://flounder.net/publickey.html   |  technology's just a bunch of wires 
GPG: 17A4 11F7 5E7E C2E7 08AA|  connected to a bunch of other wires."
 38B0 05D0 8BF7 2C6D 110A|  Joe Rogan, _NewsRadio_
  3:36pm  up 139 days, 12:52, 11 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.02

Re: unsubscribe

[Daniel Augusto Fernandes]

> .
> .
> .

Well, it seems that the server running the mailing list is very busy
too.
So you'll have to be patient.

That's why we now have two messages of mine regarding this.


Daniel Augusto Fernandes (DAF tm)   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GCSNethttp://www.gcsnet.com.br/

 Se você não encontra
 o sentido das coisas
 é porque este não
 se encontra, se cria.
   Antoine Saint-Exupéry

Re: unsubscribe qmail

[Jeremy Stanley]

On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Daniel Augusto Fernandes wrote:
[snip]
> You should look at the mail header of this message and see what's your
> address.
> The very first (mostly) is something like this:
> 
> > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[clip]

Great, except that it doesn't seem to exist on my messages.  The following
is pulled straight from a list message sitting in my imap maildir:

Received: (qmail 20963 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2000 17:24:26 -
Received: from muncher.math.uic.edu (131.193.178.181)
  by mail.foveon.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2000 17:24:26 -
Received: (qmail 10241 invoked by uid 1002); 27 Oct 2000 16:02:44 -
Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
Precedence: bulk
Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 5165 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2000 16:02:44 -
Received: from unknown (HELO nermal.donbest.com) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  by muncher.math.uic.edu with SMTP; 27 Oct 2000 16:02:44 -
Received: (qmail 17052 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2000 16:02:49 -
Received: from unknown (HELO newdbc) (192.168.3.2)
  by 205.199.214.25 with SMTP; 27 Oct 2000 16:02:49 -
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 09:03:41 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Bill Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Seamless e-mail virus scanner?
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

And that's all there is before the message body...  Clues?

--
Jeremy Stanley, Information Security Specialist Foveon Corporation
--

Re: unsubscribe qmail

[Robin S. Socha]

* Landon Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001027 13:18]:
> unsubscribe qmail

Now, Landon, take a look at this:
http://cr.yp.to/lists.html#qmail
"To subscribe, send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Kinda makes one wonder what would happen if one sent an  empty message
to [EMAIL PROTECTED], eh? And sometimes, one is also
tempted to wonder if the admission test for American universities
is to be able to write your own name.
-- 
If you are too low a lifeform to be able to learn how to use the
manual page subsystem, why should we help you?
(Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

Re: unsubscribe

[Daniel Augusto Fernandes]

Are you people sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from your
signed e-mail addresses?

You should look at the mail header of this message and see what's your
address. The very first (mostly) is something like this:

> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Which means I'm subscribed to qmail list as [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I
should send mailing list request as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Try it and you'll need no administrator/listmaster help.


Daniel Augusto Fernandes (DAF tm)   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GCSNethttp://www.gcsnet.com.br/

 Se você não encontra
 o sentido das coisas
 é porque este não
 se encontra, se cria.
   Antoine Saint-Exupéry

Re: unsubscribe qmail

[Brett Randall]

>>>>> "Landon" == Landon Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Landon>  unsubscribe qmail

Oh no! Its contagious!!!
-- 
"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."

- Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943

Re: unsubscribe

[Daniel Augusto Fernandes]

Are you people sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from your
signed e-mail addresses?

You should look at the mail header of this message and see what's your
address. The very first (mostly) is something like this:

> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Which means I'm subscribed to qmail list as [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I
should send mailing list request as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Try it and you'll need no administrator/listmaster help.


Daniel Augusto Fernandes (DAF tm)   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GCSNethttp://www.gcsnet.com.br/

 Se você não encontra
 o sentido das coisas
 é porque este não
 se encontra, se cria.
   Antoine Saint-Exupéry

Re: unsubscribe qmail

[Daniel Augusto Fernandes]

Are you people sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from your
signed e-mail addresses?

You should look at the mail header of this message and see what's your
address.
The very first (mostly) is something like this:

> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Which means I'm subscribed to qmail list as [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I
should send mailing list request as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Try it and you'll need no administrator/listmaster help.


Daniel Augusto Fernandes (DAF tm)   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GCSNethttp://www.gcsnet.com.br/

 Se você não encontra
 o sentido das coisas
 é porque este não
 se encontra, se cria.
   Antoine Saint-Exupéry

unsubscribe qmail

[Landon Evans]

unsubscribe qmail


Landon Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

unsubscribe qmail

[Brett Randall]

> "Scott" == Scott Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Scott>  Me too

I'll third that!
-- 
"But what...is it good for?"

- Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968,
commenting on the microchip

unsubscribe qmail

[Scott Sanders]

Me too

-Original Message-
From: Mike Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: unsubscribe qmail

unsubscribe qmail

Mike Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
302-326-5820
888-559-5550 (Tech Support)

unsubscribe qmail

[Mike Brown]

unsubscribe qmail

Mike Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
302-326-5820
888-559-5550 (Tech Support)

Re: Unsubscribe Info

[wolfgang zeikat]

Also sprach Anand Saokar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 22.09.2000:

>Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
in each mail from this list, in the header you find the email address:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

it will tell you that you just need to email
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

make sure to use your subscription adress as your sender adress when doing
so


>Hi,
>
>How do I UnSubscribe from this list ?...
>
>n'x,
>Anand

Unsubscribe Info

[Anand Saokar]

Hi,

How do I UnSubscribe from this list ?...

n'x,
Anand

RE: unsubscribe please

[Ihnen, David]

I went to the qmail site.  There is a link for the 'discussion group' that
initiates e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On a gamble, I put 'help' in the subject line, and this is what it sent back
to me:

---

Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.

This is a generic help message. The message I received wasn't sent to
any of my command addresses.


See http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail.html for more information about qmail.

Please read http://pobox.com/~djb/qmail/faq.html before sending your
question to the qmail mailing list.


--- Here are the ezmlm command addresses.

I can handle administrative requests automatically.
Just send an empty note to any of these addresses:

   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   Receive future messages sent to the mailing list.

   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   Stop receiving messages.

   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   Retrieve a copy of message 12345 from the archive.

DO NOT SEND ADMINISTRATIVE REQUESTS TO THE MAILING LIST!
If you do, I won't see them, and subscribers will yell at you.

To specify [EMAIL PROTECTED] as your subscription address, send mail
to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
I'll send a confirmation message to that address; when you receive that
message, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.

---

So consider yourself yelled at.  Was what I did so hard to intuit?  :P

David



> -Original Message-
> From: Mervyn at ifwdc.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 3:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: unsubscribe please
> 
> 
> unsubscribe please
> 
> (If this gets to the list, appologies, and could someone tell 
> me how to
> unsubscribe?)
> 
> 
> Merv.
> 

unsubscribe please

[Mervyn at ifwdc.com]

unsubscribe please

(If this gets to the list, appologies, and could someone tell me how to
unsubscribe?)


Merv.

unsubscribe qmail

[carl]

unsubscribe qmail

unsubscribe qmail

[hitesh]

unsubscribe qmail

unsubscribe qmail

[Franck PORCHER]

unsubscribe qmail


begin:vcard 
n:PORCHER;Franck
tel;work:(689) 56 23 95
x-mozilla-html:TRUE
url:http://www.esoft.pf/
org:Essential Software
adr:;;BP 4206		;Papeete;Tahiti;98713;Polynésie française
version:2.1
email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
title:Fondateur & Directeur Associé. Founder & Executive Director
x-mozilla-cpt:;17280
fn:Franck PORCHER, PhD.
end:vcard

RE: how do you unsubscribe?

[Brett Randall]

Send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Kris Keele
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 8:16 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: how do you unsubscribe?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

how do you unsubscribe?

[Kris Keele]

Re: qmail-unsubscribe

[Tony Campisi]

--- Here are the ezmlm command addresses.

I can handle administrative requests automatically.
Just send an empty note to any of these addresses:

   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   Stop receiving messages.

   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   Retrieve a copy of message 12345 from the archive.

DO NOT SEND ADMINISTRATIVE REQUESTS TO THE MAILING LIST!
If you do, I won't see them, and subscribers will yell at you.

and subscribers will yell at you,
Tony Campisi

qmail-unsubscribe

[jyoung]

Re: How to unsubscribe from this list????

[Steffan Hoeke]

Check the headers of a message you recieve from this list
Try sending a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 04:18:04AM -0400, Atif Ali wrote:
> Pleas let me know hoqw can i unsubscribe myself from the list.
> Regards
> aT
> ---
> aT
> Network Administrator
> MCSE,CCNA
> __
> FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com
> Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup
> 

-- 
http://therookie.dyndns.org

How to unsubscribe from this list????

[Atif Ali]

Pleas let me know hoqw can i unsubscribe myself from the list.
Regards
aT
---
aT
Network Administrator
MCSE,CCNA
__
FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com
Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup

Re: OT: can't unsubscribe

[Eric Cox]

I notice all of these people have uppercase letters in 
their usernames.  Could this be related?

Eric


"Hand, Brian C." wrote:
> 
> I have the same problem.  I did this over two weeks ago and I am still
> getting messages.  Can someone make the bad list stop!!! :)
> 
> Brian
> 
[snip.]

RE: OT: can't unsubscribe

[Hand, Brian C.]

I have the same problem.  I did this over two weeks ago and I am still
getting messages.  Can someone make the bad list stop!!! :)

Brian

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 11:55 AM
To: Paul Jarc
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: can't unsubscribe





I did this secondary reply to my unsubscribe over 2 days ago and I still
receive
posts to the list.  The response to the unsubscribe message directed me to
send
a message to:
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The response to that message was:
==
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.

Acknowledgment: The address

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

is not on this mailing list.

Am I not following the directions correctly?



|+--->
||  Paul Jarc|
||  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]|
||  edu> |
||   |
||  07/07/2000   |
||  09:35 AM |
||   |
|+--->
  >---|
  |   |
  |   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
  |   cc: (bcc: Tim Clifton/LA/Candle)|
  |   Subject: Re: OT: can't unsubscribe  |
  >---|





Mirko Koenig writes:
> i worte at least two messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> but i recieve messages again and again.
> how can i unsubscribe the list?

Look for Return-Path: in the header of the messages you get from the
list.  Mine looks like this:
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You'll see qmail-return--, followed by the address you used to
subscribe to the list.  Let's refer to this address as `user@host'.
(It will appear as `user=host' in the Return-Path.)  Now send a
message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and then follow
the directions in the response message.  If you send only the first
message, nothing will happen; you need to send a second message, as
will be explained in the response to the first message.


paul

Re: OT: can't unsubscribe

[Paul Jarc]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Acknowledgment: The address
> 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> is not on this mailing list.

This is telling you that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wasn't subscribed to
begin with.  (The text would be different if ezmlm had removed the
address from the list.)  Apparently, you're subscribed with a
different address, which is probably then forwarding to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  To find the address that you're subscribed
with, look for Return-Path: in the header of this message.


paul

Re: OT: can't unsubscribe

[Tim_Clifton]

I did this secondary reply to my unsubscribe over 2 days ago and I still receive
posts to the list.  The response to the unsubscribe message directed me to send
a message to:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The response to that message was:
==
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list.

Acknowledgment: The address

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

is not on this mailing list.

Am I not following the directions correctly?



|+--->
||  Paul Jarc|
||  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]|
||  edu> |
||   |
||  07/07/2000   |
||  09:35 AM |
||   |
|+--->
  >---|
  |   |
  |   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
  |   cc: (bcc: Tim Clifton/LA/Candle)|
  |   Subject: Re: OT: can't unsubscribe  |
  >---|





Mirko Koenig writes:
> i worte at least two messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> but i recieve messages again and again.
> how can i unsubscribe the list?

Look for Return-Path: in the header of the messages you get from the
list.  Mine looks like this:
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You'll see qmail-return--, followed by the address you used to
subscribe to the list.  Let's refer to this address as `user@host'.
(It will appear as `user=host' in the Return-Path.)  Now send a
message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and then follow
the directions in the response message.  If you send only the first
message, nothing will happen; you need to send a second message, as
will be explained in the response to the first message.


paul

Re: OT: can't unsubscribe

[Paul Jarc]

Mirko Koenig writes:
> i worte at least two messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> but i recieve messages again and again.
> how can i unsubscribe the list?

Look for Return-Path: in the header of the messages you get from the
list.  Mine looks like this:
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You'll see qmail-return--, followed by the address you used to
subscribe to the list.  Let's refer to this address as `user@host'.
(It will appear as `user=host' in the Return-Path.)  Now send a
message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and then follow
the directions in the response message.  If you send only the first
message, nothing will happen; you need to send a second message, as
will be explained in the response to the first message.


paul

OT: can't unsubscribe

[Mirko Koenig]

hi

i worte at least two messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
but i recieve messages again and again.
how can i unsubscribe the list?

Mirko Koenig

--
Fuer die einen ist es SuSe, fuer die anderen das laengste init-script 
der Welt. 

homepage : http://stud.fbi.fh-darmstadt.de/~koenig

e-amil : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ICQ : 11181751

Re[2]: rejecting subscribe/unsubscribe requests

[Sylwester S. Biernacki]

2000-07-06, at 00:03:09, Paul Jarc wrote:

> Hand, Brian C. writes:
>> How does one setup qmail and ezmlm to allow subscribes and unsubscribes to
>> be done ONLY by command line.

> If you remove listdir/public, ezmlm-manage will stop responding to all
> administrative requests, including -subscribe, -unsubscribe, and -get.
> If you want -get to keep working, you can intercept delivery of the
> subscription messages.  The foo-subscribe and foo-unsubscribe
> addresses are handled by the list's .qmail-default file - you can
> create .qmail-[un]subscribe[-default] files to handle any messages
> sent to those addresses.  bouncesaying ought to be useful.  If instead
> you want to drop these messages silently, remember that the .qmail
> files shouldn't be empty (that indicates that the system's default
> delivery method should be used - ./Mailbox, or whatever), and the
> first line can't be blank - `#' is the smallest no-op.

>> I apologize if this is documented somewhere but I only found out how
>> to prevent posts to the mailing lists itself.

> Hm - how do you do that?
Or you can make file called i.e. subscribe.pl and put this code
inside:

#!/usr/bin/perl

$to = "test-subscribe\@test.com";
$subject = "";
$from = "test-user\@test2.com";

$sendmail = "sendmail -f $from -t -oi";
open(MAIL, "| $sendmail");
   $subject = $config[5];

   print MAIL "Reply-to: $from\n";
   print MAIL "Errors-to: $from\n";
   print MAIL "Sender: $from\n";
   print MAIL "To: $to\n";
   print MAIL "Subject: $subject\n";
   print MAIL "\n";

close MAIL;

You can rebuild this source to ask for $to and $from.
If you do this from machine which is listserver it should subscribe
without any problems.

-- 
pozdrawiam,
Sylwester S. Biernacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: rejecting subscribe/unsubscribe requests

[Paul Jarc]

Hand, Brian C. writes:
> How does one setup qmail and ezmlm to allow subscribes and unsubscribes to
> be done ONLY by command line.

If you remove listdir/public, ezmlm-manage will stop responding to all
administrative requests, including -subscribe, -unsubscribe, and -get.
If you want -get to keep working, you can intercept delivery of the
subscription messages.  The foo-subscribe and foo-unsubscribe
addresses are handled by the list's .qmail-default file - you can
create .qmail-[un]subscribe[-default] files to handle any messages
sent to those addresses.  bouncesaying ought to be useful.  If instead
you want to drop these messages silently, remember that the .qmail
files shouldn't be empty (that indicates that the system's default
delivery method should be used - ./Mailbox, or whatever), and the
first line can't be blank - `#' is the smallest no-op.

> I apologize if this is documented somewhere but I only found out how
> to prevent posts to the mailing lists itself.

Hm - how do you do that?


paul