Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
Maxwell Smart wrote: OK, now I'm confused. Does this mean that if the box is not ticked that SPAM mail will make it to your POP3 inbox marked as SPAM? CJ All mail is scanned unless you create an exclusion in your tcp.smtp or other similar method to turn off spam scanning. The only thing the spam detection box does it move messages that score above a 12 (I think that's the default), it will move it to a Spam folder for the user. The spam detection box only tells the system to run that particular user's mail through a maildrop script (called /etc/mail/mailfilter) - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: OK, now I'm confused. Does this mean that if the box is not ticked that SPAM mail will make it to your POP3 inbox marked as SPAM? CJ All mail is scanned unless you create an exclusion in your tcp.smtp or other similar method to turn off spam scanning. The only thing the spam detection box does it move messages that score above a 12 (I think that's the default), it will move it to a Spam folder for the user. The spam detection box only tells the system to run that particular user's mail through a maildrop script (called /etc/mail/mailfilter) Perhaps instead of SpamBox, that should be called Spam Filer|Filter. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: OK, now I'm confused. Does this mean that if the box is not ticked that SPAM mail will make it to your POP3 inbox marked as SPAM? CJ All mail is scanned unless you create an exclusion in your tcp.smtp or other similar method to turn off spam scanning. The only thing the spam detection box does it move messages that score above a 12 (I think that's the default), it will move it to a Spam folder for the user. The spam detection box only tells the system to run that particular user's mail through a maildrop script (called /etc/mail/mailfilter) - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null Otherwise it goes to the user's Inbox. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: OK, now I'm confused. Does this mean that if the box is not ticked that SPAM mail will make it to your POP3 inbox marked as SPAM? CJ All mail is scanned unless you create an exclusion in your tcp.smtp or other similar method to turn off spam scanning. The only thing the spam detection box does it move messages that score above a 12 (I think that's the default), it will move it to a Spam folder for the user. The spam detection box only tells the system to run that particular user's mail through a maildrop script (called /etc/mail/mailfilter) Perhaps instead of SpamBox, that should be called Spam Filer|Filter. I don't see how this would make a difference, but if others agree then I can change it. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
I think just the clarification that it goes /dev/null whether it's checked or not. The pertinent information for me is it's not going to make it to the POP3 client regardless if it's ticked or not. CJ Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: OK, now I'm confused. Does this mean that if the box is not ticked that SPAM mail will make it to your POP3 inbox marked as SPAM? CJ All mail is scanned unless you create an exclusion in your tcp.smtp or other similar method to turn off spam scanning. The only thing the spam detection box does it move messages that score above a 12 (I think that's the default), it will move it to a Spam folder for the user. The spam detection box only tells the system to run that particular user's mail through a maildrop script (called /etc/mail/mailfilter) Perhaps instead of SpamBox, that should be called Spam Filer|Filter. I don't see how this would make a difference, but if others agree then I can change it. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more accurate I believe it's rejected as spam. In any case, the recipient can never see it. Otherwise it goes to the user's Inbox. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
So, if I am understanding this correctly. There is no way to filter it and have it make it to the POP3 Inbox marked as SPAM? Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more accurate I believe it's rejected as spam. In any case, the recipient can never see it. Otherwise it goes to the user's Inbox. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
The spambox option simply moves stuff marked as spam to the spam folder. This option is really only appropriate for Imap/Squirrelmail, because once it's moved, POP3 can no longer see it. If you need to filter POP3 email, that has to be done by the client. Maxwell Smart wrote: So, if I am understanding this correctly. There is no way to filter it and have it make it to the POP3 Inbox marked as SPAM? Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more accurate I believe it's rejected as spam. In any case, the recipient can never see it. Otherwise it goes to the user's Inbox. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more accurate I believe it's rejected as spam. In any case, the recipient can never see it. Who are you kidding about hating to nit pick? Technically, the copy that was received is delivered to /dev/null and an error message is sent to the originating server notifying them that the message was denied as spam. The SMTP session remains open during the simscan phase. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
Maxwell Smart wrote: So, if I am understanding this correctly. There is no way to filter it and have it make it to the POP3 Inbox marked as SPAM? What are you trying to accomplish? Email that comes in is scanned by Spamassassin. If it scores above the score you defined in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf (5 by default) it is marked as spam. If it scores above the score you have defined in /var/qmail/control/simcontrol (or a hard ceiling of 20 for older versions of QMT, and 40 for newer versions) the the message is deleted regardless. If you enable the Spambox and have it checked for the user in question and a message scores above the score you have defined in there (but still less than the score defined in simcontrol or the hard ceiling noted above) then it gets moved from the Inbox to a Spam box. If it matches none of the above, it gets delivered to the Inbox. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more accurate I believe it's rejected as spam. In any case, the recipient can never see it. Who are you kidding about hating to nit pick? Technically, the copy that was received is delivered to /dev/null and an error message is sent to the originating server notifying them that the message was denied as spam. The SMTP session remains open during the simscan phase. I'd really like to be clear on this, so I understand the inner workings. My understanding is that yes, the SMTP session remains open during the simscan phase. If the score is over the threshold in the simcontrol file (spam_hits=n), then the message is flat out rejected, and the sending server is notified as such before the smtp session terminates. The message is never received (successfully), nor delivered to /dev/null. The sending server subsequently bounces the message back to the sender. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more accurate I believe it's rejected as spam. In any case, the recipient can never see it. Who are you kidding about hating to nit pick? Technically, the copy that was received is delivered to /dev/null and an error message is sent to the originating server notifying them that the message was denied as spam. The SMTP session remains open during the simscan phase. I'd really like to be clear on this, so I understand the inner workings. My understanding is that yes, the SMTP session remains open during the simscan phase. If the score is over the threshold in the simcontrol file (spam_hits=n), then the message is flat out rejected, and the sending server is notified as such before the smtp session terminates. The message is never received (successfully), nor delivered to /dev/null. The sending server subsequently bounces the message back to the sender. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this. It has to get a copy of the message to scan. It does not return a successful delivery command to the sending server until the scanning process is complete (the remote server thinks the receiving server it still receiving the message). If it fails any of the tests, a SMTP message is returned to the originating server and the copy of the message that the server did receive (to scan) is discarded - this is done before the SMTP session is closed. The originating server usually bounces a message to the sender, but since this is controllable it's hard to say what a given server will do with a bounce. Ultimately it has to get a copy of the message to scan, but leaves the SMTP session open so that it may return an error code (clarification: an error code is anything, even a successful code). Once it has decided to do something with the message, it still has to do something with the copy it got to scan. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
W dniu 11.08.2009 20:49, Eric Shubert pisze: Jake Vickers wrote: I'd really like to be clear on this, so I understand the inner workings. My understanding is that yes, the SMTP session remains open during the simscan phase. If the score is over the threshold in the simcontrol file (spam_hits=n), then the message is flat out rejected, and the sending server is notified as such before the smtp session terminates. The message is never received (successfully), nor delivered to /dev/null. The sending server subsequently bounces the message back to the sender. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this. You're right. 8-- e.g. 2009-08-08 23:58:28.774694500 simscan:[30471]:SPAM REJECT (17.30/12.00):1.8013s:***SPAM*** URGENT NOTICE.:93.17.128.19:am-chamb...@superchat.biz:m...@my.domain 2009-08-08 23:58:28.774697500 qmail-smtpd: qq hard reject (Your email is considered spam (17.30 spam-hits)): MAILFROM:am-chamb...@superchat.biz RCPTTO:m...@my.domain 8--EOT e.g. -- Pozdrawiam / Regards, Aleksander Podsiadły http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ;) - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
Yes, but it gets moved to a Spambox that can only be accessed via webmail. I am asking if a Spambox can be created in your POP3 client (Thunderbird) instead of having to access it via webmail to see if anything of importance has been marked as SPAM and doesn't make it to my POP3 client. I understand the scoring and it currently works very well. I don't plan on modifying anything. I just want to know how it works. It is currently correct 98% of the time and that's pretty good IMHO. Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So, if I am understanding this correctly. There is no way to filter it and have it make it to the POP3 Inbox marked as SPAM? What are you trying to accomplish? Email that comes in is scanned by Spamassassin. If it scores above the score you defined in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf (5 by default) it is marked as spam. If it scores above the score you have defined in /var/qmail/control/simcontrol (or a hard ceiling of 20 for older versions of QMT, and 40 for newer versions) the the message is deleted regardless. If you enable the Spambox and have it checked for the user in question and a message scores above the score you have defined in there (but still less than the score defined in simcontrol or the hard ceiling noted above) then it gets moved from the Inbox to a Spam box. If it matches none of the above, it gets delivered to the Inbox. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
OK, That's how I understood it works. This is what I was trying to clarify. Eric Shubert wrote: The spambox option simply moves stuff marked as spam to the spam folder. This option is really only appropriate for Imap/Squirrelmail, because once it's moved, POP3 can no longer see it. If you need to filter POP3 email, that has to be done by the client. Maxwell Smart wrote: So, if I am understanding this correctly. There is no way to filter it and have it make it to the POP3 Inbox marked as SPAM? Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more accurate I believe it's rejected as spam. In any case, the recipient can never see it. Otherwise it goes to the user's Inbox. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
Maxwell Smart wrote: Yes, but it gets moved to a Spambox that can only be accessed via webmail. I am asking if a Spambox can be created in your POP3 client (Thunderbird) instead of having to access it via webmail to see if anything of importance has been marked as SPAM and doesn't make it to my POP3 client. I understand the scoring and it currently works very well. I don't plan on modifying anything. I just want to know how it works. It is currently correct 98% of the time and that's pretty good IMHO. POP3 does not support folders, so the only way to access the Spam folder (as well as the Trash folder, Sent folder, etc.) is by using IMAP (webmail uses IMAP). - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
Got it. I was able to set up Thunderbird as an IMAP client and it works perfectly including the Sent and SPAM folders. Are there advantages to one over the other? CJ Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: Yes, but it gets moved to a Spambox that can only be accessed via webmail. I am asking if a Spambox can be created in your POP3 client (Thunderbird) instead of having to access it via webmail to see if anything of importance has been marked as SPAM and doesn't make it to my POP3 client. I understand the scoring and it currently works very well. I don't plan on modifying anything. I just want to know how it works. It is currently correct 98% of the time and that's pretty good IMHO. POP3 does not support folders, so the only way to access the Spam folder (as well as the Trash folder, Sent folder, etc.) is by using IMAP (webmail uses IMAP). - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: So where does the SPAM go if the tick is not checked? If it scores above your threshold in simscan, then it goes to /dev/null I hate to nit pick, but to be more accurate I believe it's rejected as spam. In any case, the recipient can never see it. Who are you kidding about hating to nit pick? Technically, the copy that was received is delivered to /dev/null and an error message is sent to the originating server notifying them that the message was denied as spam. The SMTP session remains open during the simscan phase. I'd really like to be clear on this, so I understand the inner workings. My understanding is that yes, the SMTP session remains open during the simscan phase. If the score is over the threshold in the simcontrol file (spam_hits=n), then the message is flat out rejected, and the sending server is notified as such before the smtp session terminates. The message is never received (successfully), nor delivered to /dev/null. The sending server subsequently bounces the message back to the sender. Please correct me if I'm wrong on this. It has to get a copy of the message to scan. It does not return a successful delivery command to the sending server until the scanning process is complete (the remote server thinks the receiving server it still receiving the message). If it fails any of the tests, a SMTP message is returned to the originating server and the copy of the message that the server did receive (to scan) is discarded - this is done before the SMTP session is closed. The originating server usually bounces a message to the sender, but since this is controllable it's hard to say what a given server will do with a bounce. Ultimately it has to get a copy of the message to scan, but leaves the SMTP session open so that it may return an error code (clarification: an error code is anything, even a successful code). Once it has decided to do something with the message, it still has to do something with the copy it got to scan. I think it's just a matter of semantics. I see it as removing the copy of the refused message from the queue, while you see it being delivered to /dev/null. Doesn't really matter. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
IMAP is the future, POP3 is the past. ;) When you have your email on an IMAP-accessible server, you can access it with any IMAP-capable client from virtually anywhere. Do you need to share your email account between your desktop and notebook? No problem. Would you like to pull up your email on your blackberry? Again, not a problem (and pretty slick if you ask me). Get the picture? Maxwell Smart wrote: Got it. I was able to set up Thunderbird as an IMAP client and it works perfectly including the Sent and SPAM folders. Are there advantages to one over the other? CJ Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: Yes, but it gets moved to a Spambox that can only be accessed via webmail. I am asking if a Spambox can be created in your POP3 client (Thunderbird) instead of having to access it via webmail to see if anything of importance has been marked as SPAM and doesn't make it to my POP3 client. I understand the scoring and it currently works very well. I don't plan on modifying anything. I just want to know how it works. It is currently correct 98% of the time and that's pretty good IMHO. POP3 does not support folders, so the only way to access the Spam folder (as well as the Trash folder, Sent folder, etc.) is by using IMAP (webmail uses IMAP). -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
After installing an IMAP account and a POP3 in Thunderbird for the same account I can totally see the benefits and how it works. CJ Eric Shubert wrote: IMAP is the future, POP3 is the past. ;) When you have your email on an IMAP-accessible server, you can access it with any IMAP-capable client from virtually anywhere. Do you need to share your email account between your desktop and notebook? No problem. Would you like to pull up your email on your blackberry? Again, not a problem (and pretty slick if you ask me). Get the picture? Maxwell Smart wrote: Got it. I was able to set up Thunderbird as an IMAP client and it works perfectly including the Sent and SPAM folders. Are there advantages to one over the other? CJ Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: Yes, but it gets moved to a Spambox that can only be accessed via webmail. I am asking if a Spambox can be created in your POP3 client (Thunderbird) instead of having to access it via webmail to see if anything of importance has been marked as SPAM and doesn't make it to my POP3 client. I understand the scoring and it currently works very well. I don't plan on modifying anything. I just want to know how it works. It is currently correct 98% of the time and that's pretty good IMHO. POP3 does not support folders, so the only way to access the Spam folder (as well as the Trash folder, Sent folder, etc.) is by using IMAP (webmail uses IMAP). - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
Hey thanks for all your help. I have a much better understanding of the setup and the difference between IMAP and POP3. Using Thunderbird for IMAP was a snap and I can now view all folders on the server in my client including the SPAM folder. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: Hey thanks for all your help. I have a much better understanding of the setup and the difference between IMAP and POP3. Using Thunderbird for IMAP was a snap and I can now view all folders on the server in my client including the SPAM folder. Just remember that IMAP doesn't work the same with Outlook; IMAP is annoying in Outlook IMHO. I'll 2nd that opinion. Outlook'07 is a bit better then '03, but the way it handles deleted messages is hokey. I think MS may have done this purposefully to encourage people away from IMAP and toward Exchange. Seriously. I do have users who've adjusted ok to Outlook with IMAP though. Especially when they can use their blackberries with it. :) IMAP is also a little more resource intensive. When you're dealing with 50 users it does not matter at all, but if you go beyond that you'll at least need to brush through the IMAP config file on the server. I wonder how much dovecot has done to remove this constraint. I don't have any servers with that many users (yet). Hey Peter, how's dovecot doing for you? How many users? I personally only use pop3 for accounts where I do not care if the messages are synced or not (my personal email account, my junk one, etc.). For everything else, I run IMAP so it will be the same on my desktop or my laptop. Easier that way. Personally, I don't use pop3 any more at all. :) -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
Thanks for the heads up on Outlook. I can see where it can be resource intensive on the server. I don't have enough clients for it to be an issue at the moment, other than I would have to increase their quota. Only one of my customers has requested it. I am certain the others don't even know it exists. I personally don't use any MS product and only suggest Firefox, Opera, or Thunderbird. I had been old school up until today. I check it from my home and leave the mail on the server and my office client removes it from the server. CJ Jake Vickers wrote: Maxwell Smart wrote: Hey thanks for all your help. I have a much better understanding of the setup and the difference between IMAP and POP3. Using Thunderbird for IMAP was a snap and I can now view all folders on the server in my client including the SPAM folder. Just remember that IMAP doesn't work the same with Outlook; IMAP is annoying in Outlook IMHO. IMAP is also a little more resource intensive. When you're dealing with 50 users it does not matter at all, but if you go beyond that you'll at least need to brush through the IMAP config file on the server. I personally only use pop3 for accounts where I do not care if the messages are synced or not (my personal email account, my junk one, etc.). For everything else, I run IMAP so it will be the same on my desktop or my laptop. Easier that way. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Spamassassin Errors - Still
Eric Shubert wrote: It has to get a copy of the message to scan. It does not return a successful delivery command to the sending server until the scanning process is complete (the remote server thinks the receiving server it still receiving the message). If it fails any of the tests, a SMTP message is returned to the originating server and the copy of the message that the server did receive (to scan) is discarded - this is done before the SMTP session is closed. The originating server usually bounces a message to the sender, but since this is controllable it's hard to say what a given server will do with a bounce. Ultimately it has to get a copy of the message to scan, but leaves the SMTP session open so that it may return an error code (clarification: an error code is anything, even a successful code). Once it has decided to do something with the message, it still has to do something with the copy it got to scan. I think it's just a matter of semantics. I see it as removing the copy of the refused message from the queue, while you see it being delivered to /dev/null. Doesn't really matter. You wanted to nit pick ;) - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Greylisting - What is possible in Qmail-Toaster?
Can anyone please let me know what is available for Greylisting with Qmail-Toaster Cheers Mike Canty Mike Canty IT Operations Manager - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting - What is possible in Qmail-Toaster?
Mike Canty wrote: Can anyone please let me know what is available for Greylisting with Qmail-Toaster Cheers Mike Canty Mike Canty IT Operations Manager One word: spamdyke. Does greylisting and a whole lot more. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting - What is possible in Qmail-Toaster?
Mike Canty wrote: Can anyone please let me know what is available for Greylisting with Qmail-Toaster Cheers Mike Canty Mike Canty IT Operations Manager qtp-install-spamdyke is in qmailtoaster-plus package. See the QTP site and the wiki for more, and you might need to reference the documentation at spamdyke.org. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting - What is possible in Qmail-Toaster?
Be sure to read through http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Spamdyke, and use the README file for the nitty gritty. Mike Canty wrote: Eric, Once again, thanks for your assistance. I had already installed qtp, but I needed to run the qtp-install-spamdyke script to activate. Cheers -Original Message- From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Eric Shubert Sent: Wednesday, 12 August 2009 10:46 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting - What is possible in Qmail-Toaster? Mike Canty wrote: Can anyone please let me know what is available for Greylisting with Qmail-Toaster Cheers Mike Canty Mike Canty IT Operations Manager qtp-install-spamdyke is in qmailtoaster-plus package. See the QTP site and the wiki for more, and you might need to reference the documentation at spamdyke.org. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
RE: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting - What is possible in Qmail-Toaster?
Eric, Once again, thanks for your assistance. I had already installed qtp, but I needed to run the qtp-install-spamdyke script to activate. Cheers -Original Message- From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Eric Shubert Sent: Wednesday, 12 August 2009 10:46 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting - What is possible in Qmail-Toaster? Mike Canty wrote: Can anyone please let me know what is available for Greylisting with Qmail-Toaster Cheers Mike Canty Mike Canty IT Operations Manager qtp-install-spamdyke is in qmailtoaster-plus package. See the QTP site and the wiki for more, and you might need to reference the documentation at spamdyke.org. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] mailman wiki page
I came across a few bugs in the mailman toaster configuration. After some pretty extensive testing, I think the toaster mailman setup is pretty solid. The wiki page (http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Mailman) has been updated with the changes. If you've thought about trying mailman on your toaster, now's a good time! I'd (still) like to see someone write up with a procedure for converting ezmlm lists to mailman. Not that I have any. Any takers? -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
RE: [qmailtoaster] connection refused from clients sending email
Problem solved. And yes, I bought yet another Tee shirt. My fricken router blew!!! So it happened to be something rather simple. Got the RMA today and all is fine. Glen Yea, there's only so much you can do remotely. At this point a local visit is needed. I'm sure you're going to have a DUH! moment when you find it. Been there, got too many Tee shirts... I'm pretty sure its not a routing problem. I'm starting to think it might be my DSL modem. I was able to telnet on the local machine. I'll have to test telnet to the box within the network later. I know it can't have an IP sharing issue. The DHCP range starts at 100 and this box is at 10. (4th octet). I'll let everyone know what I find when I get myself to the network where the box is at. From: Phil Leinhauser [mailto:p...@teqknow.com] Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 12:26 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] connection refused from clients sending email Off the top of my head. Maybe something will shake loose... - Just for grins, run through the process of sending with telnet using ip addy on the local machine. Here's an example to follow how to do this: http://www.netadmintools.com/art276.html I'm sure it will work but what the heck... - Have you looked at tcp.smtp? Do you have anything that might cause this in there? - Is it at all possible you have another machine on the network with the same IP? Pull the nic cable and ping the ip. - This one's a reach but worth a shot, maybe a switch problem? Try putting the server and one other machine on the same switch with NOTHING else connected, not even the rest of the network, and test. In these cases I try to break things down into smaller bits and walk my way in or out. Phil In my last reply, I lied. I can now telnet to the local address through console just fine. Got a helo back and it responded. Outside in, is where the failure is. I am getting spamdyke messages in my smtp log. I see a denied for an email that just tried to relay through my server. @40004a7c0ab8320d2604 spamdyke[6976]: DENIED_OTHER from: rshewf...@intelius.com to: gvick...@domain origin_ip: 74.125.149.207 origin_rdns: na3sys009aog112.obsmtp.com auth: (unknown) Spamdyke.conf is dns-blacklist-entry=zombie.dnsbl.sorbs.net #dns-blacklist-entry=dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net #dns-blacklist-entry=bogons.cymru.com dns-blacklist-entry=zen.spamhaus.org dns-blacklist-entry=bl.spamcop.net graylist-dir=/var/spamdyke/graylist graylist-level=always graylist-max-secs=2678400 graylist-min-secs=180 greeting-delay-secs=5 idle-timeout-secs=60 ip-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_ip ip-in-rdns-keyword-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_keywords ip-in-rdns-keyword-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_keywords ip-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_ip local-domains-file=/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts log-level=info log-target=stderr max-recipients=50 #policy-url=http://my.policy.explanation.url/ rdns-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_rdns rdns-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_rdns recipient-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_recipients recipient-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_recipients reject-empty-rdns #reject-ip-in-cc-rdns reject-missing-sender-mx reject-unresolvable-rdns sender-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_senders sender-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_senders tls-certificate-file=/var/qmail/control/servercert.pem -Original Message- From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Eric Shubert Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:39 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] connection refused from clients sending email Since you're receiving mail, I don't see how it can be a routing problem. spamdyke looks ok. To be sure it's running, are you seeing spamdyke messages in the smtp log? (spamdyke messages have ALLOWED or DENIED_ in them) What does your /etc/spamdyke/spamdyke.conf file contain? Glen Vickers wrote: Yes, I can receive mail all day and my client is able to download them. Just can't send from external. I can send using squirrelmail. smtp]# ll total 16 drwx-- 3 qmaill qmail 4096 Jul 29 12:38 log lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Aug 7 01:38 run - run.spamdyke -rwxr-x--x 1 qmaill qmail 555 Apr 17 06:37 run.dist -rwxr-x--x 1 qmaill qmail 584 Aug 7 03:58 run.spamdyke drwx-- 2 qmaill qmail 4096 Aug 7 04:01 supervise the run file reads #!/bin/sh QMAILDUID=`id -u vpopmail` NOFILESGID=`id -g vpopmail` MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming` SPAMDYKE=/usr/local/bin/spamdyke SPAMDYKE_CONF=/etc/spamdyke/spamdyke.conf SMTPD=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd TCP_CDB=/etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp.cdb HOSTNAME=`hostname` VCHKPW=/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw REQUIRE_AUTH=0 exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m 9000 \ /usr/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l $HOSTNAME -x $TCP_CDB -c $MAXSMTPD \ -u
Re: [qmailtoaster] connection refused from clients sending email
Great news. Glen Vickers wrote: Problem solved. And yes, I bought yet another Tee shirt. My fricken router blew!!! So it happened to be something rather simple. Got the RMA today and all is fine. Glen Yea, there's only so much you can do remotely. At this point a local visit is needed. I'm sure you're going to have a DUH! moment when you find it. Been there, got too many Tee shirts... I'm pretty sure its not a routing problem. I'm starting to think it might be my DSL modem. I was able to telnet on the local machine. I'll have to test telnet to the box within the network later. I know it can't have an IP sharing issue. The DHCP range starts at 100 and this box is at 10. (4th octet). I'll let everyone know what I find when I get myself to the network where the box is at. From: Phil Leinhauser [mailto:p...@teqknow.com] Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 12:26 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] connection refused from clients sending email Off the top of my head. Maybe something will shake loose... - Just for grins, run through the process of sending with telnet using ip addy on the local machine. Here's an example to follow how to do this: http://www.netadmintools.com/art276.html I'm sure it will work but what the heck... - Have you looked at tcp.smtp? Do you have anything that might cause this in there? - Is it at all possible you have another machine on the network with the same IP? Pull the nic cable and ping the ip. - This one's a reach but worth a shot, maybe a switch problem? Try putting the server and one other machine on the same switch with NOTHING else connected, not even the rest of the network, and test. In these cases I try to break things down into smaller bits and walk my way in or out. Phil In my last reply, I lied. I can now telnet to the local address through console just fine. Got a helo back and it responded. Outside in, is where the failure is. I am getting spamdyke messages in my smtp log. I see a denied for an email that just tried to relay through my server. @40004a7c0ab8320d2604 spamdyke[6976]: DENIED_OTHER from: rshewf...@intelius.com to: gvick...@domain origin_ip: 74.125.149.207 origin_rdns: na3sys009aog112.obsmtp.com auth: (unknown) Spamdyke.conf is dns-blacklist-entry=zombie.dnsbl.sorbs.net #dns-blacklist-entry=dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net #dns-blacklist-entry=bogons.cymru.com dns-blacklist-entry=zen.spamhaus.org dns-blacklist-entry=bl.spamcop.net graylist-dir=/var/spamdyke/graylist graylist-level=always graylist-max-secs=2678400 graylist-min-secs=180 greeting-delay-secs=5 idle-timeout-secs=60 ip-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_ip ip-in-rdns-keyword-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_keywords ip-in-rdns-keyword-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_keywords ip-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_ip local-domains-file=/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts log-level=info log-target=stderr max-recipients=50 #policy-url=http://my.policy.explanation.url/ rdns-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_rdns rdns-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_rdns recipient-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_recipients recipient-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_recipients reject-empty-rdns #reject-ip-in-cc-rdns reject-missing-sender-mx reject-unresolvable-rdns sender-blacklist-file=/etc/spamdyke/blacklist_senders sender-whitelist-file=/etc/spamdyke/whitelist_senders tls-certificate-file=/var/qmail/control/servercert.pem -Original Message- From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Eric Shubert Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:39 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] connection refused from clients sending email Since you're receiving mail, I don't see how it can be a routing problem. spamdyke looks ok. To be sure it's running, are you seeing spamdyke messages in the smtp log? (spamdyke messages have ALLOWED or DENIED_ in them) What does your /etc/spamdyke/spamdyke.conf file contain? Glen Vickers wrote: Yes, I can receive mail all day and my client is able to download them. Just can't send from external. I can send using squirrelmail. smtp]# ll total 16 drwx-- 3 qmaill qmail 4096 Jul 29 12:38 log lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Aug 7 01:38 run - run.spamdyke -rwxr-x--x 1 qmaill qmail 555 Apr 17 06:37 run.dist -rwxr-x--x 1 qmaill qmail 584 Aug 7 03:58 run.spamdyke drwx-- 2 qmaill qmail 4096 Aug 7 04:01 supervise the run file reads #!/bin/sh QMAILDUID=`id -u vpopmail` NOFILESGID=`id -g vpopmail` MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming` SPAMDYKE=/usr/local/bin/spamdyke SPAMDYKE_CONF=/etc/spamdyke/spamdyke.conf SMTPD=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd TCP_CDB=/etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp.cdb HOSTNAME=`hostname` VCHKPW=/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw REQUIRE_AUTH=0 exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m 9000 \ /usr/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l
