Re: [qmailtoaster] SOGo - Installation notes
Hi, On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Pak Ogah pako...@pala.bo-tak.info wrote: On 04/14/11 10:57, Pak Ogah wrote: On 04/13/11 21:00, Peter Peltonen wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Bharath Chari qmailtoas...@arachnis.com wrote: Hi guys, Warning : Badly formatted notes - will make it more readable in a later version, from a clean install. Here goes: Thanks Bharath! I will give it a try next week. I'll report here my experiences. Cheers, Peter Okay will wait patiently, hoping that you will have success clean SOGo installation over QMT Hi there Peter, any progress update about SOGo installation notes on QMT? Unfortunately no. CentOS 5.6 and 4.9 upgrades have kept me busy. And now I'll be traveling for the four weeks, so not much will happen before June If someone else has time to try them out before that, please keep us posted? Best, Peter - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: RE; spamdyke ?
It could be that scanning is taking longer than your timeout setting. What value do you have for idle-timeout-secs in spamdyke.conf? FWIW, I have 180 presently. It could also be that scanning is taking longer than the sending server is willing to wait (sender times out first, then spamdyke follows suit). Is your clamav up to date? There were some earlier versions that would go into a loop, causing loads to be very high, and general slowness. -- -Eric 'shubes' On 05/02/2011 02:03 PM, Joel Eddy wrote: Eric, I’m on spamdyke 4.2.0+TLS+CONFIGTEST+DEBUG (C)2011 If she sends me a plain text message I get them. I wonder if it’s a clamd or spamassassin issue. They usually send pdf attachments to each other. Make any sense? *From:*Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] *Sent:* Monday, May 02, 2011 3:35 PM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Re: RE; spamdyke ? On 05/02/2011 12:51 PM, Joel Eddy wrote: I'm seeing this in my smtp logs on this account. I've tried to find the answer but so far no luck. Has anyone else had this problem? 2011-05-02 13:52:06.345475500.s:@40004dbef6ef166a7104 spamdyke[31592]: TIMEOUT from: lcgrap...@iowatelecom.net to: kathleenfis...@iowaconnect.com origin_ip: 162.39.147.111 origin_rdns: pacmmta52.windstream.net auth: (unknown) encryption: (none) reason: TIMEOUT - TIMEOUT isn't usually indicative of a non-spam problem. Which spamdyke version are you running? There was a problem that was fixed (in 4.2.0 IIRC) that would leave a session hanging after another rejection of some sort. No real harm except it tied up resources a little bit. Update to the current version if you haven't already. Simply re-run qtp-install-spamdyke and that should do it for you. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3610 - Release Date: 05/02/11 - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re; Timout issue
Eric on this issue of timeout from spamdyke that I see in the smtp logs could it be something in the caching dns causing the problem? This is what I'm finding out so far. If I send the person an email and they reply back I'll get the message. If the person sends an email by typing in my address I get the message. And if they send an attachment by typing in my address I get the message. But now this morning the person sent me a message as a test without my sending any contact email. And now this morning in the smtp log I see: 2011-05-03 09:00:21.177476500 spamdyke[25373]: TIMEOUT from: lcgrap...@iowatelecom.net to: rje...@iowaconnect.com origin_ip: 162.39.147.111 origin_rdns: pacm mta52.windstream.net auth: (unknown) encryption: (none) reason: TIMEOUT I am at a lose as to what to look at or for. Will increasing the log level to verbose, debug or excessive be the next level to try for an answer to this? - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: whitelist ip in trusted network
On 05/02/2011 07:24 PM, Rajesh M wrote: On 04/07/2011 11:38 PM, Rajesh M wrote: On 04/07/2011 05:50 PM, Rajesh M wrote: hi i wish to whitelist a client's server static ip in the spamassasin trusted network i am entering the line like this trusted_networks xxx.yyy if i do this then the email from this server ip should be given a negative score but it does not seem to work reading the wiki it seem that i need to turn the -L switch Which wiki page(s) led you to that conclusion? Which program (spamd?) is the -L switch for? since this was not turned on by default in my qmail toaster installation i would like some information as to any problems that i may face if i turn on the -L switch thanks very much rajesh - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com hi eric http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/TrustPath the section is: How can I optimize the trusted_networks setting? rajesh - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! I think you misunderstand what it's saying about the -L switch. It's saying that configuring the trust path information is worth configuring, whether or not you use the -L switch (QMT does not). I think you need to describe your *entire* trusted network in the trusted_networks parameter. The wiki says (above): Generally you want trusted_networks set to contain all the mailservers you control that add Received: headers, and nothing else. HTH. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com eric thanks for the information but i am still a bit confused on this. basically i need to whitelist a few external servers IPS who send me email are totally trusted. i dont want to put the sender domain in the simscan file since anybody can forge a domain name. i tried to put the ips in trusted_network (spamassassin local.cf) but it does not work ie a negative score of 50 is not given to email how do i get this to work ? rajesh - I don't know SA that well off hand. Is there perhaps a device in between your trusted server and QMT, such that SA is not seeing/recognizing the address of the trusted server? If the servers who are sending mail are all that trusted, is it possible to get them to authenticate? If they can authenticate and use port 587, the messages from them would bypass SA entirely. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue
On 05/03/2011 07:26 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: Eric on this issue of timeout from spamdyke that I see in the smtp logs could it be something in the caching dns causing the problem? Anything's possible I suppose. I don't see a connection here to dns though. This is what I'm finding out so far. If I send the person an email and they reply back I'll get the message. If the person sends an email by typing in my address I get the message. And if they send an attachment by typing in my address I get the message. But now this morning the person sent me a message as a test without my sending any contact email. And now this morning in the smtp log I see: 2011-05-03 09:00:21.177476500 spamdyke[25373]: TIMEOUT from: lcgrap...@iowatelecom.net to: rje...@iowaconnect.com origin_ip: 162.39.147.111 origin_rdns: pacm mta52.windstream.net auth: (unknown) encryption: (none) reason: TIMEOUT I am at a lose as to what to look at or for. Will increasing the log level to verbose, debug or excessive be the next level to try for an answer to this? - If it's repeatable (which it appears to be), I'd use spamdyke's detail logging facility to capture one: full-log-dir=/var/log/spamdyke (I think you'll need to create the directory before turning the option on) Then we can see what's really going on. If there's a bug, the detail log will be excellent to have for Sam. It would also be useful to see all of the related smtp log messages for the given email. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: RE; spamdyke ?
Idle-timeout-secs is 120 right now. I'll jack it up to 180. [root@mx1 smtp]# clamd -V ClamAV 0.97/13039/Tue May 3 07:30:41 2011 top - 09:44:31 up 4 days, 22:07, 1 user, load average: 0.24, 0.28, 0.24 Tasks: 227 total, 1 running, 226 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.5%us, 0.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 98.8%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 1025544k total, 1002148k used,23396k free,46008k buffers Swap: 2064376k total, 100k used, 2064276k free, 321956k cached qtp-whatami v0.3.7 Tue May 3 09:45:20 CDT 2011 DISTRO=CentOS OSVER=5.6 QTARCH=x86_64 QTKERN=2.6.18-238.9.1.el5 BUILD_DIST=cnt5064 BUILD_DIR=/usr/src/redhat This machine's OS is supported and has been tested Anything stand out that I should look at? _ From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:26 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: RE; spamdyke ? It could be that scanning is taking longer than your timeout setting. What value do you have for idle-timeout-secs in spamdyke.conf? FWIW, I have 180 presently. It could also be that scanning is taking longer than the sending server is willing to wait (sender times out first, then spamdyke follows suit). Is your clamav up to date? There were some earlier versions that would go into a loop, causing loads to be very high, and general slowness. -- -Eric 'shubes' On 05/02/2011 02:03 PM, Joel Eddy wrote: Eric, I'm on spamdyke 4.2.0+TLS+CONFIGTEST+DEBUG (C)2011 If she sends me a plain text message I get them. I wonder if it's a clamd or spamassassin issue. They usually send pdf attachments to each other. Make any sense? *From:*Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] *Sent:* Monday, May 02, 2011 3:35 PM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Re: RE; spamdyke ? On 05/02/2011 12:51 PM, Joel Eddy wrote: I'm seeing this in my smtp logs on this account. I've tried to find the answer but so far no luck. Has anyone else had this problem? 2011-05-02 13:52:06.345475500.s:@40004dbef6ef166a7104 spamdyke[31592]: TIMEOUT from: lcgrap...@iowatelecom.net to: kathleenfis...@iowaconnect.com origin_ip: 162.39.147.111 origin_rdns: pacmmta52.windstream.net auth: (unknown) encryption: (none) reason: TIMEOUT - TIMEOUT isn't usually indicative of a non-spam problem. Which spamdyke version are you running? There was a problem that was fixed (in 4.2.0 IIRC) that would leave a session hanging after another rejection of some sort. No real harm except it tied up resources a little bit. Update to the current version if you haven't already. Simply re-run qtp-install-spamdyke and that should do it for you. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3610 - Release Date: 05/02/11 - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3610 - Release Date: 05/02/11
[qmailtoaster] Re: RE; spamdyke ?
This looks hunky dory to me. :) Sounding to me like something's choking on content somehow based on what you said previously. I'd like to see detail spamdyke log, and *all* related smtp log messages. -- -Eric 'shubes' On 05/03/2011 07:46 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: Idle-timeout-secs is 120 right now. I’ll jack it up to 180. [root@mx1 smtp]# clamd -V ClamAV 0.97/13039/Tue May 3 07:30:41 2011 top - 09:44:31 up 4 days, 22:07, 1 user, load average: 0.24, 0.28, 0.24 Tasks: 227 total, 1 running, 226 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.5%us, 0.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 98.8%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 1025544k total, 1002148k used, 23396k free, 46008k buffers Swap: 2064376k total, 100k used, 2064276k free, 321956k cached qtp-whatami v0.3.7 Tue May 3 09:45:20 CDT 2011 DISTRO=CentOS OSVER=5.6 QTARCH=x86_64 QTKERN=2.6.18-238.9.1.el5 BUILD_DIST=cnt5064 BUILD_DIR=/usr/src/redhat This machine's OS is supported and has been tested Anything stand out that I should look at? *From:*Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:26 AM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Re: RE; spamdyke ? It could be that scanning is taking longer than your timeout setting. What value do you have for idle-timeout-secs in spamdyke.conf? FWIW, I have 180 presently. It could also be that scanning is taking longer than the sending server is willing to wait (sender times out first, then spamdyke follows suit). Is your clamav up to date? There were some earlier versions that would go into a loop, causing loads to be very high, and general slowness. -- -Eric 'shubes' On 05/02/2011 02:03 PM, Joel Eddy wrote: Eric, I’m on spamdyke 4.2.0+TLS+CONFIGTEST+DEBUG (C)2011 If she sends me a plain text message I get them. I wonder if it’s a clamd or spamassassin issue. They usually send pdf attachments to each other. Make any sense? *From:*Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] *Sent:* Monday, May 02, 2011 3:35 PM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Re: RE; spamdyke ? On 05/02/2011 12:51 PM, Joel Eddy wrote: I'm seeing this in my smtp logs on this account. I've tried to find the answer but so far no luck. Has anyone else had this problem? 2011-05-02 13:52:06.345475500.s:@40004dbef6ef166a7104 spamdyke[31592]: TIMEOUT from: lcgrap...@iowatelecom.net to: kathleenfis...@iowaconnect.com origin_ip: 162.39.147.111 origin_rdns: pacmmta52.windstream.net auth: (unknown) encryption: (none) reason: TIMEOUT - TIMEOUT isn't usually indicative of a non-spam problem. Which spamdyke version are you running? There was a problem that was fixed (in 4.2.0 IIRC) that would leave a session hanging after another rejection of some sort. No real harm except it tied up resources a little bit. Update to the current version if you haven't already. Simply re-run qtp-install-spamdyke and that should do it for you. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3610 - Release Date: 05/02/11 - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3610 - Release Date: 05/02/11 - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue
I created the dir but what should the user group be set to. Spamdyke is being denied access at this point. _ From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:38 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue On 05/03/2011 07:26 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: Eric on this issue of timeout from spamdyke that I see in the smtp logs could it be something in the caching dns causing the problem? Anything's possible I suppose. I don't see a connection here to dns though. This is what I'm finding out so far. If I send the person an email and they reply back I'll get the message. If the person sends an email by typing in my address I get the message. And if they send an attachment by typing in my address I get the message. But now this morning the person sent me a message as a test without my sending any contact email. And now this morning in the smtp log I see: 2011-05-03 09:00:21.177476500 spamdyke[25373]: TIMEOUT from: lcgrap...@iowatelecom.net to: rje...@iowaconnect.com origin_ip: 162.39.147.111 origin_rdns: pacm mta52.windstream.net auth: (unknown) encryption: (none) reason: TIMEOUT I am at a lose as to what to look at or for. Will increasing the log level to verbose, debug or excessive be the next level to try for an answer to this? - If it's repeatable (which it appears to be), I'd use spamdyke's detail logging facility to capture one: full-log-dir=/var/log/spamdyke (I think you'll need to create the directory before turning the option on) Then we can see what's really going on. If there's a bug, the detail log will be excellent to have for Sam. It would also be useful to see all of the related smtp log messages for the given email. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3610 - Release Date: 05/02/11
[qmailtoaster] SPAM Designation Option
Greetings QMail list... I am in the unenviable position of admitting that some of my QMail is FM to me (FM is f***ing magic or, in plainer terms I know it works, I just don't know how) -- and that has me in a bit of a quandary I host web e-mail for some of my clients and I have a NEW customer, who has asked me to turn off the SpamAssassin ***SPAM*** insert in the subject line... in fact, he wants to turn off ALL SPAM blocking for his domain. So, how / where do I configure SpamAssassin (and SpamDyke, for that matter) to NOT process messages for his domain? Thanks in advance, Dan McAllister -- IT4SOHO, LLC PO Box 507 St. Petersburg, FL 33731-0507 CALL TOLL FREE: 877-IT4SOHO 877-484-7646 Phone 727-490-4394 Fax We make IT work for small business! - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
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[qmailtoaster] Re: SPAM Designation Option
On 05/03/2011 09:07 AM, Dan McAllister wrote: Greetings QMail list... I am in the unenviable position of admitting that some of my QMail is FM to me (FM is f***ing magic or, in plainer terms I know it works, I just don't know how) -- and that has me in a bit of a quandary I host web e-mail for some of my clients and I have a NEW customer, who has asked me to turn off the SpamAssassin ***SPAM*** insert in the subject line... in fact, he wants to turn off ALL SPAM blocking for his domain. So, how / where do I configure SpamAssassin (and SpamDyke, for that matter) to NOT process messages for his domain? Thanks in advance, Dan McAllister For SA, add a record to the beginning of /var/qmail/control/simcontrol: customdomain.com:clam=yes,spam=no then run service qmail cdb. Per-domain control in spamdyke is a little tricky. See spamdyke docs for that. Spamdyke false positives are practically nonexistent though, so you might want to just leave spamdyke active and not tell him about it. Then again, if he insists on receiving spam, I'd charge him extra for the load it'll cause on your server as well as the trouble of configuring spamdyke. ;) -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: SPAM Designation Option
I agree with Eric on the Spamdyke portion. I was thinking the same thing, but didn't have an answer for the SpamAssassin portion, so I didn't reply! :-) I run SpamDyke more for the benefit of my server. The benefit for the client is secondary. If you disable it, your certainly going to increase the load on your server, requiring, at some point, you to either upgrade your server, or add another to handle the load. I'd second Eric's suggestion to simply not tell your client about SpamDyke and leave it in place, or charge the client more to cover the extra spam/mail your server is sure to get. Mike -Original Message- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:32 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: SPAM Designation Option On 05/03/2011 09:07 AM, Dan McAllister wrote: Greetings QMail list... I am in the unenviable position of admitting that some of my QMail is FM to me (FM is f***ing magic or, in plainer terms I know it works, I just don't know how) -- and that has me in a bit of a quandary I host web e-mail for some of my clients and I have a NEW customer, who has asked me to turn off the SpamAssassin ***SPAM*** insert in the subject line... in fact, he wants to turn off ALL SPAM blocking for his domain. So, how / where do I configure SpamAssassin (and SpamDyke, for that matter) to NOT process messages for his domain? Thanks in advance, Dan McAllister For SA, add a record to the beginning of /var/qmail/control/simcontrol: customdomain.com:clam=yes,spam=no then run service qmail cdb. Per-domain control in spamdyke is a little tricky. See spamdyke docs for that. Spamdyke false positives are practically nonexistent though, so you might want to just leave spamdyke active and not tell him about it. Then again, if he insists on receiving spam, I'd charge him extra for the load it'll cause on your server as well as the trouble of configuring spamdyke. ;) -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.../CentOS_5_QmailToaster_Install is off line.
On 5/3/2011 9:20 AM, Keith Smith wrote: -- Keith Smith Internet Marketing LLC (480) 272-9268 PHP Programming Services Search Engine Optimization QmailToaster Wiki appears to be down. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue
I stink I fingered it out. Firewall. _ From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:25 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue vpopmail:vchkpw -- -Eric 'shubes' On 05/03/2011 08:16 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: I created the dir but what should the user group be set to. Spamdyke is being denied access at this point. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3610 - Release Date: 05/02/11
[qmailtoaster] Re; max recipients
Besides the max-recipients=50 in spamdyke.conf is there somewhere else that controls the max-recipients also. Qmail, Spamassassin or ? I've got users with Norton AV that keep getting an error that they're sending to too many even with only 27 recipients. GR I HATE EMAIL ;-) Joel - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue
Care to elaborate? (Inquiring minds want to know) ;) On 05/03/2011 10:24 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: I stink I fingered it out. Firewall. *From:*Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:25 AM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue vpopmail:vchkpw -- -Eric 'shubes' On 05/03/2011 08:16 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: I created the dir but what should the user group be set to. Spamdyke is being denied access at this point. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3610 - Release Date: 05/02/11 -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: SPAM Designation Option
Hi, On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: that. Spamdyke false positives are practically nonexistent though, so you might want to just leave spamdyke active and not tell him about it. Then again, if he insists on receiving spam, I'd charge him extra for the load it'll cause on your server as well as the trouble of configuring spamdyke. ;) Even if Spamdyke is correct, it does not mean that the end behaviour is what the customer expects. I have ran into issues where customers haven't received email they were expecting because of Spamdyke rejecting a message because of missing reserve dns. And it does not help telling the customer that the sending server is not properly configured, if they can receive the same email with their Gmail or some other account... I have been playing around with an idea that I should create a page for each customer where they could check the sending addresses for denied messages. So if there is a real message denied I could then offer an option to white list that mail server or sending address, so that the customer could try contacting the sender again. Best, Peter - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re; max recipients
chkuser can have such options. Regards, Tonino Il 03/05/2011 19:36, Joel Eddy ha scritto: Besides the max-recipients=50 in spamdyke.conf is there somewhere else that controls the max-recipients also. Qmail, Spamassassin or ? I've got users with Norton AV that keep getting an error that they're sending to too many even with only 27 recipients. GR I HATE EMAIL ;-) Joel - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- Inter@zioniInterazioni di Antonio Nati http://www.interazioni.it to...@interazioni.it - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue
I've got a bridging firewall that is ahead of all my servers and the mail server. I've got that set so tight that it must have been blocking something with the mail processing. What I've got to go figure out yet. But for now I've got it straight to the pub side of the switch. And the message I was waiting for showed up as soon as I bypassed the bridge. The timeouts have dropped to just a few now and then too. The bridge is screening for phrases in the packets so it may of even been one of those that was fouling up message delivery. I'll have to go back and start with a basic iptables and see what happens. Self inflicted wound. ;-( _ From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:37 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue Care to elaborate? (Inquiring minds want to know) ;) On 05/03/2011 10:24 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: I stink I fingered it out. Firewall. *From:*Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:25 AM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue vpopmail:vchkpw -- -Eric 'shubes' On 05/03/2011 08:16 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: I created the dir but what should the user group be set to. Spamdyke is being denied access at this point. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3610 - Release Date: 05/02/11 -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3612 - Release Date: 05/03/11
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re; max recipients
tcp.smtp has CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT=50 so it and spamdyke.conf match on that point. I'll see what I can find about chkuser. Thanks. _ From: Tonix (Antonio Nati) [mailto:to...@interazioni.it] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:40 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re; max recipients chkuser can have such options. Regards, Tonino Il 03/05/2011 19:36, Joel Eddy ha scritto: Besides the max-recipients=50 in spamdyke.conf is there somewhere else that controls the max-recipients also. Qmail, Spamassassin or ? I've got users with Norton AV that keep getting an error that they're sending to too many even with only 27 recipients. GR I HATE EMAIL ;-) Joel - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- Inter@zioniInterazioni di Antonio Nati http://www.interazioni.it to...@interazioni.it - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3612 - Release Date: 05/03/11
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: RE; spamdyke ?
NOTE: I have seen this behavior when SSL connections are made and there is not enough RAM allocated for the SSL libraries. The result is that the SMTP (actually the qmail-smtp service) hangs (bad memory alloc), and so never returns On 5/3/2011 11:14 AM, Eric Shubert wrote: This looks hunky dory to me. :) Sounding to me like something's choking on content somehow based on what you said previously. I'd like to see detail spamdyke log, and *all* related smtp log messages. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: SPAM Designation Option
I hear ya. I just ran into this yesterday as well. What I did to correct the issue was to add the email address to the /etc/spamdyke/whitelist_recipients file. The recipients mail server was an exchange server(yuck bad word) but it used postini to screen their spam. The rDNS resolved back to postini and not what they had in their dns records. I finally just gave up trying to explain it and found I could add the address to the spamdyke whitelist. Solved It for me. And that way you not whitelisting and entire domain that could be a spammer. Hope that helps. _ From: Peter Peltonen [mailto:peter.pelto...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:38 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: SPAM Designation Option Hi, On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: that. Spamdyke false positives are practically nonexistent though, so you might want to just leave spamdyke active and not tell him about it. Then again, if he insists on receiving spam, I'd charge him extra for the load it'll cause on your server as well as the trouble of configuring spamdyke. ;) Even if Spamdyke is correct, it does not mean that the end behaviour is what the customer expects. I have ran into issues where customers haven't received email they were expecting because of Spamdyke rejecting a message because of missing reserve dns. And it does not help telling the customer that the sending server is not properly configured, if they can receive the same email with their Gmail or some other account... I have been playing around with an idea that I should create a page for each customer where they could check the sending addresses for denied messages. So if there is a real message denied I could then offer an option to white list that mail server or sending address, so that the customer could try contacting the sender again. Best, Peter - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3612 - Release Date: 05/03/11
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re; max recipients
There is another variable for max wrong recipients, which is the real anti-intrusion action. See http://www.interazioni.it/opensource/chkuser/documentation/chkuser_settings.html. Tonino Il 03/05/2011 19:50, Joel Eddy ha scritto: tcp.smtp has CHKUSER_RCPTLIMIT=50 so it and spamdyke.conf match on that point. I'll see what I can find about chkuser. Thanks. *From:*Tonix (Antonio Nati) [mailto:to...@interazioni.it] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:40 PM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Re; max recipients chkuser can have such options. Regards, Tonino Il 03/05/2011 19:36, Joel Eddy ha scritto: Besides the max-recipients=50 in spamdyke.conf is there somewhere else that controls the max-recipients also. Qmail, Spamassassin or ? I've got users with Norton AV that keep getting an error that they're sending to too many even with only 27 recipients. GR I HATE EMAIL ;-) Joel - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com -- Inter@zioniInterazioni di Antonio Nati http://www.interazioni.it to...@interazioni.it - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3612 - Release Date: 05/03/11 -- Inter@zioniInterazioni di Antonio Nati http://www.interazioni.it to...@interazioni.it
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: SPAM Designation Option
This is true, however a LARGE amount of spam is sent from IP's with no RDNS. By not blocking those e-mails, you're certainly forcing your mail server to deal with a MUCH larger amount of mail, most of which would be spam. I guess if you don't have a resource issue, and don't mind wasting resources on handling spam, that may or may not be rejected by SpamAssassin down the road, then that's fine. I agree that, if the customer wants the spam, I'm more than happy to let them have it. However, I won't do it at the detriment of other users. If you've never had a Spam Attack, where your server is constantly bombarded by spammers, then when you do, you'll wish you had SpamDyke. :-) When your server (Or the OP's server) is being hammered by a spammer, and comes here to complain about how his server is overloaded and legit e-mail is timing out because all of his SMTP ports are being bogarted, the first suggestion is going to be Are you running SpamDyke. And, yes... When a client is not getting e-mail because the sender's mail server (Usually an internal Exchange server) does not have an RDNS, I tell them that's why. I even have a form e-mail I send them to send the blocked person. I've actually picked up several consulting gigs (Fixing their RDNS issue) and spam filtering customers from this... Lack of RDNS is becoming a much more common antispam check. So, if you're blocking it, others are also likely blocking it, and, in the end, the offending server's admin is going to have to resolve the issue... Mike -Original Message- From: Peter Peltonen [mailto:peter.pelto...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:38 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: SPAM Designation Option Hi, On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: that. Spamdyke false positives are practically nonexistent though, so you might want to just leave spamdyke active and not tell him about it. Then again, if he insists on receiving spam, I'd charge him extra for the load it'll cause on your server as well as the trouble of configuring spamdyke. ;) Even if Spamdyke is correct, it does not mean that the end behaviour is what the customer expects. I have ran into issues where customers haven't received email they were expecting because of Spamdyke rejecting a message because of missing reserve dns. And it does not help telling the customer that the sending server is not properly configured, if they can receive the same email with their Gmail or some other account... I have been playing around with an idea that I should create a page for each customer where they could check the sending addresses for denied messages. So if there is a real message denied I could then offer an option to white list that mail server or sending address, so that the customer could try contacting the sender again. Best, Peter - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue
Interesting. FWIW, I wouldn't put any firewall/filtering device in front of QMT/spamdyke. Router/NAT ok, but I don't think there'd be any benefit to anything more. They can make spamdyke less effective as well. Nothing but trouble. ;( Keep It Simple Stupid. :) On 05/03/2011 10:47 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: I’ve got a bridging firewall that is ahead of all my servers and the mail server. I’ve got that set so tight that it must have been blocking something with the mail processing. What I’ve got to go figure out yet. But for now I’ve got it straight to the pub side of the switch. And the message I was waiting for showed up as soon as I bypassed the bridge. The timeouts have dropped to just a few now and then too. The bridge is screening for phrases in the packets so it may of even been one of those that was fouling up message delivery. I’ll have to go back and start with a basic iptables and see what happens. Self inflicted wound. ;-( *From:*Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:37 PM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue Care to elaborate? (Inquiring minds want to know) ;) On 05/03/2011 10:24 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: I stink I fingered it out. Firewall. *From:*Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:25 AM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue vpopmail:vchkpw -- -Eric 'shubes' On 05/03/2011 08:16 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: I created the dir but what should the user group be set to. Spamdyke is being denied access at this point. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3610 - Release Date: 05/02/11 -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3612 - Release Date: 05/03/11 -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: SPAM Designation Option
On 05/03/2011 10:38 AM, Peter Peltonen wrote: Hi, On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Eric Shuberte...@shubes.net wrote: that. Spamdyke false positives are practically nonexistent though, so you might want to just leave spamdyke active and not tell him about it. Then again, if he insists on receiving spam, I'd charge him extra for the load it'll cause on your server as well as the trouble of configuring spamdyke. ;) Even if Spamdyke is correct, it does not mean that the end behaviour is what the customer expects. I have ran into issues where customers haven't received email they were expecting because of Spamdyke rejecting a message because of missing reserve dns. And it does not help telling the customer that the sending server is not properly configured, if they can receive the same email with their Gmail or some other account... Gmail would reject that as well, ttbomk. Many mailers these days are rejecting based on missing rDNS. These cases seem to be less frequent as admins get their server configurations fixed. Good point though. I usually try to contact the the sender's admin and have them fix it. They're typically glad to do so, as it helps their deliverability in general. In the meantime, it's easy enough to whitelist. I have been playing around with an idea that I should create a page for each customer where they could check the sending addresses for denied messages. So if there is a real message denied I could then offer an option to white list that mail server or sending address, so that the customer could try contacting the sender again. Giving the customer more visibility/control is usually a good thing in my mind. At this point, the sender typically contacts the receiver by another method (phone, postal mail) to let them know about the rejection, which seems adequate to me. The line has to be drawn somewhere though, and the policy I favor is that if the sender's server isn't configured properly, they need to fix it. I do whitelist occasionally though as an interim measure. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: SPAM Designation Option
Lack of rDNS records will cause messages to fail to MSN/Hotmail, and Yahoo! accounts (don't know about Gmail)... I'm not at all worried about the blocking of messages (the SPAM he doesn't see he won't bitch about)... he just didn't like the ***SPAM*** label behavior! BTW: I warned him that there would be an increase in SPAM -- we'll see how long it takes him to decide to turn SA back on! Dan On 5/3/2011 1:58 PM, Michael J. Colvin wrote: This is true, however a LARGE amount of spam is sent from IP's with no RDNS. By not blocking those e-mails, you're certainly forcing your mail server to deal with a MUCH larger amount of mail, most of which would be spam. I guess if you don't have a resource issue, and don't mind wasting resources on handling spam, that may or may not be rejected by SpamAssassin down the road, then that's fine. I agree that, if the customer wants the spam, I'm more than happy to let them have it. However, I won't do it at the detriment of other users. If you've never had a Spam Attack, where your server is constantly bombarded by spammers, then when you do, you'll wish you had SpamDyke. :-) When your server (Or the OP's server) is being hammered by a spammer, and comes here to complain about how his server is overloaded and legit e-mail is timing out because all of his SMTP ports are being bogarted, the first suggestion is going to be Are you running SpamDyke. And, yes... When a client is not getting e-mail because the sender's mail server (Usually an internal Exchange server) does not have an RDNS, I tell them that's why. I even have a form e-mail I send them to send the blocked person. I've actually picked up several consulting gigs (Fixing their RDNS issue) and spam filtering customers from this... Lack of RDNS is becoming a much more common antispam check. So, if you're blocking it, others are also likely blocking it, and, in the end, the offending server's admin is going to have to resolve the issue... Mike -Original Message- From: Peter Peltonen [mailto:peter.pelto...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:38 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: SPAM Designation Option Hi, On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Eric Shuberte...@shubes.net wrote: that. Spamdyke false positives are practically nonexistent though, so you might want to just leave spamdyke active and not tell him about it. Then again, if he insists on receiving spam, I'd charge him extra for the load it'll cause on your server as well as the trouble of configuring spamdyke. ;) Even if Spamdyke is correct, it does not mean that the end behaviour is what the customer expects. I have ran into issues where customers haven't received email they were expecting because of Spamdyke rejecting a message because of missing reserve dns. And it does not help telling the customer that the sending server is not properly configured, if they can receive the same email with their Gmail or some other account... I have been playing around with an idea that I should create a page for each customer where they could check the sending addresses for denied messages. So if there is a real message denied I could then offer an option to white list that mail server or sending address, so that the customer could try contacting the sender again. Best, Peter - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today!
[qmailtoaster] Re: SPAM Designation Option
Well said, Michael. +1 On 05/03/2011 10:58 AM, Michael J. Colvin wrote: This is true, however a LARGE amount of spam is sent from IP's with no RDNS. By not blocking those e-mails, you're certainly forcing your mail server to deal with a MUCH larger amount of mail, most of which would be spam. I guess if you don't have a resource issue, and don't mind wasting resources on handling spam, that may or may not be rejected by SpamAssassin down the road, then that's fine. I agree that, if the customer wants the spam, I'm more than happy to let them have it. However, I won't do it at the detriment of other users. If you've never had a Spam Attack, where your server is constantly bombarded by spammers, then when you do, you'll wish you had SpamDyke. :-) When your server (Or the OP's server) is being hammered by a spammer, and comes here to complain about how his server is overloaded and legit e-mail is timing out because all of his SMTP ports are being bogarted, the first suggestion is going to be Are you running SpamDyke. And, yes... When a client is not getting e-mail because the sender's mail server (Usually an internal Exchange server) does not have an RDNS, I tell them that's why. I even have a form e-mail I send them to send the blocked person. I've actually picked up several consulting gigs (Fixing their RDNS issue) and spam filtering customers from this... Lack of RDNS is becoming a much more common antispam check. So, if you're blocking it, others are also likely blocking it, and, in the end, the offending server's admin is going to have to resolve the issue... Mike -Original Message- From: Peter Peltonen [mailto:peter.pelto...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:38 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: SPAM Designation Option Hi, On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Eric Shuberte...@shubes.net wrote: that. Spamdyke false positives are practically nonexistent though, so you might want to just leave spamdyke active and not tell him about it. Then again, if he insists on receiving spam, I'd charge him extra for the load it'll cause on your server as well as the trouble of configuring spamdyke. ;) Even if Spamdyke is correct, it does not mean that the end behaviour is what the customer expects. I have ran into issues where customers haven't received email they were expecting because of Spamdyke rejecting a message because of missing reserve dns. And it does not help telling the customer that the sending server is not properly configured, if they can receive the same email with their Gmail or some other account... I have been playing around with an idea that I should create a page for each customer where they could check the sending addresses for denied messages. So if there is a real message denied I could then offer an option to white list that mail server or sending address, so that the customer could try contacting the sender again. Best, Peter - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue
Little bit I know but sometimes graylisting also cause the time-out problem. Amit Dalia Join Us: http://www.facebook.com/IKFPune cid:image001.png@01CBA820.E533FB00 http://in.linkedin.com/in/ikfpune cid:image002.png@01CBA820.E533FB00 http://twitter.com/ikfpune cid:image003.png@01CBA820.E533FB00 http://maps.google.co.in/maps?oe=utf-8client=firefox-aie=UTF8q=ikf+pune; fb=1gl=inhq=ikfhnear=Pune,+Maharashtrahl=enview=mapcid=144792588562531 50229iwloc=Aved=0CBoQpQYsa=Xei=jOwVTe_gJqngyQTAssjeCg cid:image004.png@01CBA820.E533FB00 http://ikf-pune.blogspot.com/ cid:image005.png@01CBA820.E533FB00 From: Joel Eddy [mailto:rje...@iowaconnect.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:17 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue I've got a bridging firewall that is ahead of all my servers and the mail server. I've got that set so tight that it must have been blocking something with the mail processing. What I've got to go figure out yet. But for now I've got it straight to the pub side of the switch. And the message I was waiting for showed up as soon as I bypassed the bridge. The timeouts have dropped to just a few now and then too. The bridge is screening for phrases in the packets so it may of even been one of those that was fouling up message delivery. I'll have to go back and start with a basic iptables and see what happens. Self inflicted wound. ;-( _ From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:37 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue Care to elaborate? (Inquiring minds want to know) ;) On 05/03/2011 10:24 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: I stink I fingered it out. Firewall. *From:*Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:25 AM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue vpopmail:vchkpw -- -Eric 'shubes' On 05/03/2011 08:16 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: I created the dir but what should the user group be set to. Spamdyke is being denied access at this point. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3610 - Release Date: 05/02/11 -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3612 - Release Date: 05/03/11 image001.pngimage002.pngimage003.pngimage004.gifimage005.gif
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue
KISS seems to work every time. I guess that's what I get for being so staunch on SPAM. Thanks for your input. ;-) Have good one. _ From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:00 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue Interesting. FWIW, I wouldn't put any firewall/filtering device in front of QMT/spamdyke. Router/NAT ok, but I don't think there'd be any benefit to anything more. They can make spamdyke less effective as well. Nothing but trouble. ;( Keep It Simple Stupid. :) On 05/03/2011 10:47 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: I've got a bridging firewall that is ahead of all my servers and the mail server. I've got that set so tight that it must have been blocking something with the mail processing. What I've got to go figure out yet. But for now I've got it straight to the pub side of the switch. And the message I was waiting for showed up as soon as I bypassed the bridge. The timeouts have dropped to just a few now and then too. The bridge is screening for phrases in the packets so it may of even been one of those that was fouling up message delivery. I'll have to go back and start with a basic iptables and see what happens. Self inflicted wound. ;-( *From:*Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:37 PM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue Care to elaborate? (Inquiring minds want to know) ;) On 05/03/2011 10:24 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: I stink I fingered it out. Firewall. *From:*Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:25 AM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue vpopmail:vchkpw -- -Eric 'shubes' On 05/03/2011 08:16 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: I created the dir but what should the user group be set to. Spamdyke is being denied access at this point. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3610 - Release Date: 05/02/11 -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3612 - Release Date: 05/03/11 -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3613 - Release Date: 05/03/11
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue
KISS seems to work every time. I guess that's what I get for being so staunch on SPAM. Thanks for your input. ;-) Have good one. _ From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:00 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue Interesting. FWIW, I wouldn't put any firewall/filtering device in front of QMT/spamdyke. Router/NAT ok, but I don't think there'd be any benefit to anything more. They can make spamdyke less effective as well. Nothing but trouble. ;( Keep It Simple Stupid. :) On 05/03/2011 10:47 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: I've got a bridging firewall that is ahead of all my servers and the mail server. I've got that set so tight that it must have been blocking something with the mail processing. What I've got to go figure out yet. But for now I've got it straight to the pub side of the switch. And the message I was waiting for showed up as soon as I bypassed the bridge. The timeouts have dropped to just a few now and then too. The bridge is screening for phrases in the packets so it may of even been one of those that was fouling up message delivery. I'll have to go back and start with a basic iptables and see what happens. Self inflicted wound. ;-( *From:*Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:37 PM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue Care to elaborate? (Inquiring minds want to know) ;) On 05/03/2011 10:24 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: I stink I fingered it out. Firewall. *From:*Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:25 AM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] Re: Re; Timout issue vpopmail:vchkpw -- -Eric 'shubes' On 05/03/2011 08:16 AM, Joel Eddy wrote: I created the dir but what should the user group be set to. Spamdyke is being denied access at this point. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3610 - Release Date: 05/02/11 -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3612 - Release Date: 05/03/11 -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3613 - Release Date: 05/03/11
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: RE; spamdyke ?
The fix is to edit your SSL-capable run files in /var/qmail/supervise/*/run
Depending on what you've got configured, you may need to modify:
*smtp*, *submission*, *smtp-ssl*, *pop-ssl*, *imap-ssl*.
The last line in each of those run files is the exec that spawns the
actual program -- and the first argument is usually softlimit with a -m
xx value. The most recent QMT I installed set that value to
6400 (for SMTP SUBMISSION), or 4800 (for IMAP4-SSL
POP3-SSL)... these are bigger numbers already from when I last saw this
issue, but just FYI, my value for SMTP, SUBMISSION, and SMTP-SSL are
128MB (134217728) [expr 128 \* 1024 \* 1024], and I also increased the
450 value to 64 MB [67108864].
Call me an old-fashioned UNIX guy, but I'm just more comfortable with
powers of 2 than powers of 10 when it comes to memory allocation! :-)
I'm not sure how much it matches up with the current toaster, but I use
the following RUN file in all 3 SMTP locations (smtp, submission,
smtp-ssl) with the /_*highlighted *_/line changed for each appropriate
spot to make the requisite changes for each port's requirements. (NOTE:
I also make the HOSTNAME value equal to the qmail control me value
-- it makes more sense to me to use that value than the actual hostname
value from the server).
Use if you like
Dan
#!/bin/sh
QMAILDUID=`id -u vpopmail`
NOFILESGID=`id -g vpopmail`
MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming`
SMTPD=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
TCP_CDB=/etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp.cdb
HOSTNAME=`cat /var/qmail/control/me`
VCHKPW=/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw
MAXMEM=`expr 128 \* 1024 \* 1024` # 128 M max memory for messages
# OPTIONS
/_*RUNTYPE=SMTP*_/
if [ $RUNTYPE == SMTP-SSL ] ; then
USEPORT=465
export REQUIRE_AUTH=1 # FORCE AUTH
export SMTPS=1 # FORCE SMTPS (SSL)
SPAMDYKE= # NO SPAMDYKE on AUTH'd users
SPAMDYKEFLAGS= # NO SPAMDYKE on AUTH'd users
elif [ $RUNTYPE == SUBMISSION ] ; then
USEPORT=587
export REQUIRE_AUTH=1 # FORCE AUTH
export SMTPS=0 # Allow SMTP or SMTPS
SPAMDYKE= # NO SPAMDYKE on AUTH'd users
SPAMDYKEFLAGS= # NO SPAMDYKE on AUTH'd users
else # if [ $RUNTYPE == SMTP ] ; then DEFAULT VALUES
USEPORT=25
SPAMDYKE=/usr/local/spamdyke/bin/spamdyke
SPAMDYKEFLAGS=-f /var/qmail/control/spamdyke/spamdyke.conf
export REQUIRE_AUTH=0 # 0 = not required, 1 = required
export SMTPS=0 # 0 = not required, 1 = required
fi
exec /usr/bin/softlimit -m ${MAXMEM} \
/usr/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l ${HOSTNAME} -x ${TCP_CDB} \
-c ${MAXSMTPD} -u ${QMAILDUID} -g ${NOFILESGID} 0 ${USEPORT} \
${SPAMDYKE} ${SPAMDYKEFLAGS} ${SMTPD} ${VCHKPW} /bin/true 21
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: SpamAssassin Version
Hi. Good comment about the Binary v Source - thats actually the strength of this recipe as I a see it, it blends source packages and provides a neat rpm install The challenge is not so much the disk space as the memory requirement to compile clam on the machine once the machine is deployed - man I dread the freshclam message (despite the large friendly letters ) DON'T PANIC! *David Bray* http://www.brayworth.com.au da...@brayworth.com.au On 3/05/2011 2:14 AM, Dan McAllister wrote: Just to throw my 2-cents worth in here... Binary packages are fine in a well-controlled environment, but source packages offer far more flexibility -- especially if the Makefiles are sophisticated enough to recognize advanced features and take advantage of them (without REQUIRING them). And while binary packages of SpamAssassin and ClamAV are likely available in binary form (and it may not be a bad idea to make the QMT dependent on the standard installation features and locations of each of these), the fact is that QMT grew up in a time when QMail itself was REQUIRED to be distributed in a source format -- part of the licensing requirement of Daniel Bernstein, author of QMail. (I don't think that's true anymore, since Daniel put QMail truly into the Public Domain, but I never worried about that so I'm not totally up-to-date on QMail licensing requirements). NOTE: I already use QMail in a VM environment (CentOS 5.6 is the host OS, Xen is the VM environment, and CentOS 5.5 is my current guest OS running QMT -- I'll update that at some time in the future, but I'm honestly expecting to wait for CentOS 6 before I upgrade the base QMT again). The point is, you are right that there is a sizable disk-space requirement to rebuild the entire QMT from source (*esp*. ClamAV)... but there is an easy way to patch that! Specifically, I mount an NFS volume from my Xen Host to supplement my Xen Client's storage while I build, then unmount and destroy the temp space when I'm done. NOTE: For ME this works especially well because I administer so many QMT installs -- I update the VM image, then distribute it to my clients. All of their actual data (the queue, the mailboxes, the control folder, etc.) are kept on NFS-mounted drives on the HOST OS -- so only the binary QMT is actually run on the Xen-Client... this is not a NORMAL config, and wouldn't be MY config if it weren't for my need to manage so many installs at the same time. Take from this what you wish -- discard the rest. It's worth every penny you paid for it! Dan IT4SOHO On 4/30/2011 1:23 AM, Martin Waschbüsch IT-Dienstleistungen wrote: Am 30.04.2011 um 05:40 schrieb David Bray: Thanks for the Feedback Understand about the Fedora Lifetime etc. I use VM's and Fedora 13 is the current Fedora. Tried Ubuntu, CentOS and keep coming back to Fedora - mainly because the php is more up to date The driving line is not so much SA - SpamAssassin as Clam, on my last server - Fedora 12 based, there was an issue with spam and the update to SA 3.3 did get me into later rule sets (via sa-update) You can - in the Fedora 13 case, substitute in yum install spamassassin with little difficulty, basically install the package, it pulls in what it needs, then create the scripts to run under daemontools. The clamav is harder, but I have it running, though untested. The end aim is just to let the rpm system update clam, rather than having to recompile to src rpm so why is that so bad ? well the toaster works fine on a VM with 20Gb HDD and 512k ram but to recompile the clam package you have to stop the services to free up memory ... so having a recipe for utilizing then yum package is nice ... which brings you back to your argument, Fedora 13 will only have a short life for clamav updates via yum David Bray http://www.brayworth.com.au da...@brayworth.com.au Not everything is perfect with QMT, I would agree, but at the same time: it works! And as Eric pointed out, CentOS / RHEL 5.x is the most current version of the recommended OS for QMT. Jake is working on QMTv2 which will incorporate some changes and it will actually address some of the things you mention (like an option to just install binary packages instead of compile from source). That being said, if you'd like to help with QMT, please join the qmailtoaster-devel list as well! Cheers, Martin - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail:
