[qmailtoaster] how to create valias of email list

2012-03-02 Thread qmt
hi all,
How can i create an alias for an exsiting email list with qmail system, such as 
to create sa...@demo.com as an alias for sa...@expleam.com? 

Thanks.

2012-03-02 


Re: [qmailtoaster] Qmail+Sogo

2012-03-02 Thread Pak Ogah

On 03/02/12 2:50, Peter Peltonen wrote:

Hi,

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Délsio Cabádel...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for the reply.
Did you just installed the RPM package?

I installed from RPMs on CentOS6 yes, but that's just when the fun
begins :) Configuring SOGo and getting different devices / programs
syncing can be a tedious task.

If you are in hurry, search the toaster list archives for SOGo related
emails by Bharath, he wrote nice installation notes that I myself used
(and plan to document int he Wiki). The most important thing is
creating the view In MySQL that enables authenticating against
vpopmail db.

BR,

Peter



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http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg31098.html

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Log email Account creation date

2012-03-02 Thread Pak Ogah

On 02/10/12 19:34, Bharath Chari wrote:

On Friday 10 February 2012 11:35 AM, patr...@aofh.us wrote:


4) Exit the mysql shell. On creating a new ID in the domain 
example.com,
you should get the ID and creation date/time in the table 
log_example_com.

Just tried it, works perfectly!


Good to know!

Now for a more complete version which logs creation and deletion date. 
It's not as simple as writing a trigger for delete, because a single 
user id can be created/deleted any number of times and we wouldn't 
know which record to update. Since this is kind of an auditing table, 
we would like to track each instance of creation/deletion.


So, there are a few modifications to be made to the domain table in 
the vpopmail database.


Note: I have just tried it on a production server and it worked 
without any problem for me, but please make a backup of the table 
first or try it on a dummy domain.


Assumption:  Domain to be monitored is example.com and the domain 
table is example_com.



Halo Bharath,
My colleague, confirm your steps is working as our expectation.
now I am going to add this to wiki but my question is:
- does these steps already in new vpopmail that currently in development?
vpopmail-toaster-5.4.33-1.4.0.src.rpm - added flag --enable-many-domains 
and removed clear text password. This is the first package that needs to 
be installed.


so when users install new vpopmail they don't need to do these steps ?
or they still need do it ?

thanks before



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[qmailtoaster] Disclaimer

2012-03-02 Thread rajeshrudramani
Hi


  Did any one how to set disclaimer In squirrel mail and it should
be reflected in outlook.


Regards,
Rajesh


RE: [qmailtoaster] Disclaimer

2012-03-02 Thread Biju Jose
Hi,

 

In Squirrelmail you can setup signature/Disclaimers  in Options  Personal
information. But this will be appended only to messages send from Squirrel
Mail. The signature settings in Outlook will not reflect in Squirrelmail.
There is no general settings in Qmail Toaster for disclaimers for all email
ids in a domain.

 

Best regards

 

Biju Jose

Mobile : +91 9895 990 272

Visit us at  http://whitesindia.com/ http://whitesindia.com

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P please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

 

 

 

From: rajeshrudramani [mailto:rajeshrudram...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 4:26 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Disclaimer

 



Hi


  Did any one how to set disclaimer In squirrel mail and it should
be reflected in outlook.


Regards,
Rajesh



[qmailtoaster] Disclamier- URGRNT

2012-03-02 Thread rajeshrudramani
*HI Biju*,


  Not for single user.Disclamier should reflect for  entire
user in a domain and is it possible to  reflect same disclaimer  in outook.
Is there any configuration setting need to be change.



Regards,

Rajesh


RE: [qmailtoaster] Disclamier- URGRNT

2012-03-02 Thread Biju Jose
Hi Rajesh,

 

Generally it is not a good idea to implement signatures/disclaimers/footer
at the mail server level as it breaks PGP and HTML. There was a patch to do
this , check
http://www.ornl.gov/lists/mailing-lists/qmail/2002/09/msg00440.html , I have
not done this and hence I cannot help you here.

 

Best regards

 

Biju Jose

Mobile : +91 9895 990 272

Visit us at  http://whitesindia.com/ http://whitesindia.com

  _  

P please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

 

 

 

From: rajeshrudramani [mailto:rajeshrudram...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 4:55 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Disclamier- URGRNT

 


HI Biju,


  Not for single user.Disclamier should reflect for  entire user
in a domain and is it possible to  reflect same disclaimer  in outook. Is
there any configuration setting need to be change.



Regards,

Rajesh





[qmailtoaster] Email footer

2012-03-02 Thread rajeshrudramani
Hi

we have already enabled the email footer in the server.  In email
footer we have added disclaimer.  Is it  possible to the email footer while
sending email from outlook,Thunderbird


Regards,
Rajesh


[qmailtoaster] Mail box size in qmail

2012-03-02 Thread rajeshrudramani
Hi,


   Can any one tell me the maximum size of the mail box size  and
folder size in qmail for single user.


Regards,
Rajesh


[qmailtoaster] Fwd: Mail box size in qmail - Urgent

2012-03-02 Thread rajeshrudramani
HI




   Can any one tell me the maximum size of the mail box size  and
folder size in qmail for single user.


Regards,
Rajesh



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Fwd: Mail box size in qmail - Urgent

2012-03-02 Thread Carlos Herrera Polo
 NOQUOTA 

2012/3/2, rajeshrudramani rajeshrudram...@gmail.com:
 HI




Can any one tell me the maximum size of the mail box size  and
 folder size in qmail for single user.


 Regards,
 Rajesh



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Fwd: Mail box size in qmail - Urgent

2012-03-02 Thread rajeshrudramani
Hi,


   In qmail single user when touches 2GB mail box size  was showing
IMAP error(but user didn't have quota restriction) . For many user getting
this error in webmail.


Regards,
Rajesh





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  NOQUOTA 

 2012/3/2, rajeshrudramani rajeshrudram...@gmail.com:
  HI
 
 
 
 
 Can any one tell me the maximum size of the mail box size  and
  folder size in qmail for single user.
 
 
  Regards,
  Rajesh
 
 
 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Fwd: Mail box size in qmail - Urgent

2012-03-02 Thread Khan Mohamed Ashraf
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:23 PM, rajeshrudramani
rajeshrudram...@gmail.comwrote:


 Hi,


In qmail single user when touches 2GB mail box size  was
 showing IMAP error(but user didn't have quota restriction) . For many user
 getting this error in webmail.


 Regards,
 Rajesh






 On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Carlos Herrera Polo 
 carlos.herrerap...@gmail.com wrote:

  NOQUOTA 

 2012/3/2, rajeshrudramani rajeshrudram...@gmail.com:
  HI
 
 
 
 
 Can any one tell me the maximum size of the mail box size
  and
  folder size in qmail for single user.
 
 
  Regards,
  Rajesh
 
 
 
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Mailbox of 2 GB size! Baap re!! Why? User needs to maintain that much of
mail on the server? They should be allowed a reasonable size mail box and
archive their critical old mail in their local machine. Do you allow such a
large mailbox for your users?

Ashraf


[qmailtoaster] Mail box size

2012-03-02 Thread rajeshrudramani
Hi,


   In qmail single user when touches 2GB mail box size  was showing
IMAP error(but user didn't have quota restriction) . For many user getting
this error in webmail.


Regards,
Rajesh


Re: [qmailtoaster] Log email Account creation date

2012-03-02 Thread Bharath Chari

On Friday 02 March 2012 04:14 PM, Pak Ogah wrote:

On 02/10/12 19:34, Bharath Chari wrote:

On Friday 10 February 2012 11:35 AM, patr...@aofh.us wrote:


4) Exit the mysql shell. On creating a new ID in the domain 
example.com,
you should get the ID and creation date/time in the table 
log_example_com.

Just tried it, works perfectly!


Good to know!

Now for a more complete version which logs creation and deletion 
date. It's not as simple as writing a trigger for delete, because a 
single user id can be created/deleted any number of times and we 
wouldn't know which record to update. Since this is kind of an 
auditing table, we would like to track each instance of 
creation/deletion.


So, there are a few modifications to be made to the domain table in 
the vpopmail database.


Note: I have just tried it on a production server and it worked 
without any problem for me, but please make a backup of the table 
first or try it on a dummy domain.


Assumption:  Domain to be monitored is example.com and the domain 
table is example_com.



Halo Bharath,
My colleague, confirm your steps is working as our expectation.
now I am going to add this to wiki but my question is:
- does these steps already in new vpopmail that currently in development?
vpopmail-toaster-5.4.33-1.4.0.src.rpm - added flag 
--enable-many-domains and removed clear text password. This is the 
first package that needs to be installed.




Hi Pak,

The triggers I gave you are for use with the CURRENT version of vpopmail 
with --disable-many-domains option. I will rework one for the new 
version of vpopmail toaster which we will be releasing with 1.4.0. It 
will be easier to do it that version, since all domains will be in one 
table.


I have not incorporated the trigger within the vpopmail source, because 
I would like to make it optional, and it's not part of the core 
functionality. Maybe I can create a shell script for those who want to 
audit the creation/deletion times/dates.



I'll post the solution as soon as I write it.

If you are planning to update the wiki with the current steps, please 
_ensure that you mention that it will work only for vpopmail-5.4.17 
version of the toaster.


Bharath


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Mail box size

2012-03-02 Thread Bharath Chari

On Friday 02 March 2012 07:45 PM, rajeshrudramani wrote:



Hi,


   In qmail single user when touches 2GB mail box size  was 
showing IMAP error(but user didn't have quota restriction) . For many 
user getting this error in webmail.



What do your logs show? Courier is known to behave badly sometimes with 
large IMAP mailboxes.


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[qmailtoaster] Re: how to create valias of email list

2012-03-02 Thread Eric Shubert
On 03/02/2012 02:57 AM, qmt wrote:
 hi all,
 How can i create an alias for an exsiting email list with qmail system, 
 such as to create sa...@demo.com mailto:sa...@demo.com as an alias for 
 sa...@expleam.com mailto:sa...@expleam.com?
 Thanks.
 2012-03-02
 

Will a simple forward from sa...@demo.com to sa...@expleam.com do the
trick, or is there something more you have in mind?

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[qmailtoaster] Re: Mail box size

2012-03-02 Thread Eric Shubert

On 03/02/2012 07:37 AM, Bharath Chari wrote:

On Friday 02 March 2012 07:45 PM, rajeshrudramani wrote:



Hi,


In qmail single user when touches 2GB mail box size was showing IMAP
error(but user didn't have quota restriction) . For many user getting
this error in webmail.



What do your logs show? Courier is known to behave badly sometimes with
large IMAP mailboxes.

Bharath

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You should convert to dovecot if you need mailboxes that large. Dovecot 
has no problem with them. Generally speaking, converting to dovecot is a 
good move anyhow. At some point it will replace courier in the stock 
QMT. There is a page on the wiki with instructions for converting to 
dovecot.


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[qmailtoaster] Re: qmailtoaster and mailman - group mismatch error

2012-03-02 Thread Eric Shubert

On 02/28/2012 06:22 PM, Angus McIntyre wrote:


On Feb 24, 2012, at 2:38 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

I think I understand better now. I think it's in the local delivery part where 
the message is passed to mailman that's kicking the error.

Let me double check the spec for that config option, and rebuild the binary. 
Then we'll know for sure. I'll let you know when it's up on QTP.


Hi Eric

Thanks for your reply.

Did you have any further ideas on this issue? Is there somewhere that I should 
start looking to try to identify the problem, or at least gather more 
evidence/information about my particular configuration?

Thanks,

Angus
-


Sorry to have dropped the ball on this Angus.

While I rebuild the package (which arch are you running?), please try this:

# grep vchkpw $(rpm -ql mailman)
Binary file /etc/smrsh/mailman matches
Binary file /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman matches

Do you get a similar result, or nothing?

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[qmailtoaster] Re: qmailtoaster and mailman - group mismatch error

2012-03-02 Thread Eric Shubert

On 03/02/2012 01:35 PM, Angus McIntyre wrote:

Eric Shubert wrote:

While I rebuild the package (which arch are you running?), please try
this:

# grep vchkpw $(rpm -ql mailman)
Binary file /etc/smrsh/mailman matches
Binary file /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman matches

Do you get a similar result, or nothing?


I got nothing.

I'm running on CentOS 5.7 (64-bit).

Thanks,

Angus


-


Ok, that tells me your version doesn't have that flag set. I'm running 
x86_32, so there might have been a problem with that rpm.


Give me a few minutes, and I'll get it rebuilt.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Mail box size

2012-03-02 Thread Dan McAllister

On 3/2/2012 9:37 AM, Bharath Chari wrote:

On Friday 02 March 2012 07:45 PM, rajeshrudramani wrote:

Hi,


   In qmail single user when touches 2GB mail box size  was 
showing IMAP error(but user didn't have quota restriction) . For many 
user getting this error in webmail.




Let's be clear here - in QMT there is no limit to the size of a mailbox, 
except for the storage allocation on the filesystem in which it is 
stored (or the quota established). This is because the Mailbox in QMT is 
NOT A SINGLE FILE - it is a folder, with subfolders used to organize 
things, and each message being a separate file in one of those 
sub-folders. These are called Maildirs.


THIS IS CONCEPTUALLY DIFFERENT from other mail systems, *_esp. 
Exchange_*, where a Mailbox is in fact a database that is stored locally 
on the server's fileystem. On those systems, you often run into file 
size limitations (like 2GB for older, 32-bit Exchange servers). Some 
other UNIX-based mail servers also use a database-type of format, 
usually MBOX (which is terrible for today's kinds of e-mail), but also 
sometimes MySQL.


So why is the user having a problem? The issue with very large mailboxes 
in this case is being caused by the CLIENT software (or, possibly, as 
was mentioned earlier) by the Courier IMAP server.


HOWEVER, if you're having trouble in QMT (and assuming courier-imap  
squirrelmail), and the issue is the number of messages (not really 
size-related), then you can do what I did for a client who assumed that, 
like when he ran into this problem on Exchange, it would take many hours 
of compressing, repairing, and/or re-indexing to fix... My fix (outlined 
below) took 10 minutes total!


I simply went into his Maildir inbox and created new Maildir folders for 
each year (he had 8 years worth of e-mails). (NOTE: These were Maildir 
folders, so each had a cur, new, and tmp sub-folder). Lastly, I used the 
find command to move everything dated 2005 from the Inbox cur folder to 
the new 2005 sub-folder (again, actually to the /cur /subdirectory).. 
then I did it again for 2006 and so on up to 2010... I left him with 
only 2011 and 2012 messages in his actual inbox, then forced Courier to 
rebuild the message indicies for each (by removing the old indices and 
re-accessing from the client). Solved his Squirrelmail problem 
instantly... (NOTE: Outlook creates a pseudo-PST file for each IMAP 
account -- and it being a PST file, it has the limits of a PST file in 
that version of outlook... so this solution may not work for everyone in 
every giant inbox situation...)


One final note - for this same user, I had to do the same to his Sent 
folder -- similiarly HUGE after 8 years of use!


I hope this helps some...

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Re: [qmailtoaster] qmailmrtg

2012-03-02 Thread Casey Price

Martin,

I'm just using the dovecot RPM provided with the instructions on the QMT 
wiki. What exactly is necessary to get qmailmrtg to work with dovecot?


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On 3/1/12 11:07 PM, Martin Waschbüsch wrote:

Am 02.03.2012 um 08:04 schrieb Casey Price:


Martin,

If you want to hook me up with the package, I could help test it out.

Casey Price

Casey,

it all depends on how you set up dovecot. I had mine done by compiling from 
source and I am using daemontools to run it.
Now, if you run it in a similar environment, it will probably work well. If 
not, I might have to adapt it to properly recognize the log files, etc.

Martin


[qmailtoaster] Re: qmailmrtg

2012-03-02 Thread Eric Shubert
FWIW, the QTP dovecot package is as near to upstream as possible. This 
means that it uses /var/log/dovecot.log file, which I believe is in 
syslog format. Also (unrelated) the package uses the stock upstream init 
script, not supervise.


On 03/02/2012 02:12 PM, Casey Price wrote:

Martin,

I'm just using the dovecot RPM provided with the instructions on the QMT
wiki. What exactly is necessary to get qmailmrtg to work with dovecot?

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On 3/1/12 11:07 PM, Martin Waschbüsch wrote:

Am 02.03.2012 um 08:04 schrieb Casey Price:


Martin,

If you want to hook me up with the package, I could help test it out.

Casey Price

Casey,

it all depends on how you set up dovecot. I had mine done by compiling from 
source and I am using daemontools to run it.
Now, if you run it in a similar environment, it will probably work well. If 
not, I might have to adapt it to properly recognize the log files, etc.

Martin



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Re: [qmailtoaster] qmailmrtg

2012-03-02 Thread Martin Waschbüsch
Am 02.03.2012 um 22:12 schrieb Casey Price:

 Martin,
 
 I'm just using the dovecot RPM provided with the instructions on the QMT 
 wiki. What exactly is necessary to get qmailmrtg to work with dovecot?

qmailmrtg is a c program that scans the log files and creates the mrtg data 
files from it.
It can be called with command line options.
Basically it comes down to adding routines that can be used to scan dovecot log 
files.

Martin

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Re: [qmailtoaster] qmailmrtg

2012-03-02 Thread Casey Price


On 3/2/12 1:32 PM, Martin Waschbüsch wrote:

Am 02.03.2012 um 22:12 schrieb Casey Price:


Martin,

I'm just using the dovecot RPM provided with the instructions on the QMT wiki. 
What exactly is necessary to get qmailmrtg to work with dovecot?

qmailmrtg is a c program that scans the log files and creates the mrtg data 
files from it.
It can be called with command line options.
Basically it comes down to adding routines that can be used to scan dovecot log 
files.

Is this very difficult to do Martin? Do you have any specifics?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] qmailmrtg

2012-03-02 Thread Martin Waschbüsch
Am 02.03.2012 um 22:12 schrieb Casey Price:

 Martin,
 
 I'm just using the dovecot RPM provided with the instructions on the QMT 
 wiki. What exactly is necessary to get qmailmrtg to work with dovecot?
 
 Casey Price


This is nowhere near complete, but it gives you a first idea what needs to be 
done.

Please note that the mrtg.conf file (I think for some reason that's contained 
in the .spec in this package), needs to be adapted as well and the c program of 
course. The package here was my first attempt to convert things to dovecot - it 
assumes logs are multilog/daemontools format and located in 
/var/log/qmail/dovecot/
Also, I did not use dovecot for pop3 back then, so that has also not been taken 
care of.

If you give me some more time, I can easily adapt things so it will work with 
dovecot using syslog and in standard dovecot location and perfect the config 
files, etc.

As it is, I'd consider this very much beta.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] qmailmrtg

2012-03-02 Thread Martin Waschbüsch
Am 02.03.2012 um 22:12 schrieb Casey Price:

 Martin,
 
 I'm just using the dovecot RPM provided with the instructions on the QMT 
 wiki. What exactly is necessary to get qmailmrtg to work with dovecot?
 
 Casey Price


This is nowhere near complete, but it gives you a first idea what needs to be 
done.

Please note that the mrtg.conf file (I think for some reason that's contained 
in the .spec in this package), needs to be adapted as well and the c program of 
course. The package here was my first attempt to convert things to dovecot - it 
assumes logs are multilog/daemontools format and located in 
/var/log/qmail/dovecot/
Also, I did not use dovecot for pop3 back then, so that has also not been taken 
care of.

If you give me some more time, I can easily adapt things so it will work with 
dovecot using syslog and in standard dovecot location and perfect the config 
files, etc.

As it is, I'd consider this very much beta.

Martin



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[qmailtoaster] Re: qmailtoaster and mailman - group mismatch error

2012-03-02 Thread Eric Shubert

On 03/02/2012 01:35 PM, Angus McIntyre wrote:

Eric Shubert wrote:

While I rebuild the package (which arch are you running?), please try
this:

# grep vchkpw $(rpm -ql mailman)
Binary file /etc/smrsh/mailman matches
Binary file /usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman matches

Do you get a similar result, or nothing?


I got nothing.

I'm running on CentOS 5.7 (64-bit).

Thanks,

Angus


-


I think I found your problem. There was no qtp mailman package for 
x86_64 built, so I'm guessing you had the stock version. I've built 
mailman-2.1.12 for x86_64 and put it in the qtp-CentOS repo. That should 
get you further. Let us know how you make out.


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[qmailtoaster] Re: qtp-newmodel issue (related to repos)

2012-03-02 Thread Eric Shubert

On 03/01/2012 07:52 AM, Biju Jose wrote:

Building ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.9 ...
error: /usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS/ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.9.src.rpm cannot 
be installed


Your src.rpm file is bad. Remove it, then rerun qtp-newmodel and select 
a fresh sandbox.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] qmailmrtg

2012-03-02 Thread Casey Price

Great! Thanks Martin! I'll take a look at it and see what I need to do.

Eric - do we have any plans to be using supervise and 
multilog/daemontools log format for dovecot in the future? It sure is 
nice when all (or at least many) of your components are using the same 
logging mechanism/format, and storing them in a standardized location.


Not to get too far off track here, but while we are on the topic of 
dovecot...has anyone had any experience setting up shared/public 
namespaces in dovecot for global spam/ham folders? I'm trying to figure 
out the best way to train spamassassin, and the issue at hand is that 
the mailboxes are actually stored on a separate QMT machine, and my SA 
boxes simply do the scanning/filtering before passing the mail to the 
next hop using smtproutes. Just fishing for some ideas.


Thanks everyone.

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On 3/2/12 2:17 PM, Martin Waschbüsch wrote:

Am 02.03.2012 um 22:12 schrieb Casey Price:


Martin,

I'm just using the dovecot RPM provided with the instructions on the QMT wiki. 
What exactly is necessary to get qmailmrtg to work with dovecot?

Casey Price


This is nowhere near complete, but it gives you a first idea what needs to be 
done.

Please note that the mrtg.conf file (I think for some reason that's contained 
in the .spec in this package), needs to be adapted as well and the c program of 
course. The package here was my first attempt to convert things to dovecot - it 
assumes logs are multilog/daemontools format and located in 
/var/log/qmail/dovecot/
Also, I did not use dovecot for pop3 back then, so that has also not been taken 
care of.

If you give me some more time, I can easily adapt things so it will work with 
dovecot using syslog and in standard dovecot location and perfect the config 
files, etc.

As it is, I'd consider this very much beta.

Martin



[qmailtoaster] Re: qmailmrtg

2012-03-02 Thread Eric Shubert

On 03/02/2012 04:47 PM, Casey Price wrote:

Eric - do we have any plans to be using supervise and
multilog/daemontools log format for dovecot in the future? It sure is
nice when all (or at least many) of your components are using the same
logging mechanism/format, and storing them in a standardized location.


No. In fact, I expect QMT will be migrating to systemd and rsyslog at 
some point in the future. I think it'll be best in the long run if we 
use dovecot in the same way as it's packaged for the distro, in this 
case using init scripts and syslog.


Note, dovecot is very sensitive to time. This can be a little 
problematic on VMs, as timekeeping is trickier there. A simple solution 
is to run this script as a cron job every minute or so:

service dovecot status /dev/null 21 || \
service dovecot start  /dev/null 21


Not to get too far off track here, but while we are on the topic of
dovecot...has anyone had any experience setting up shared/public
namespaces in dovecot for global spam/ham folders?


I do that. Here's part of the dovecot config:
# This namespace can be used for people to dump their spam/ham into.
# A cron job can then use them as input to sa-learn.
# See qmailtoaster-plus for a sample script.
namespace {
  location = maildir:/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.com/sa-learn
  prefix = sa-learn.
  separator = .
  type = public
}


I'm trying to figure
out the best way to train spamassassin, and the issue at hand is that
the mailboxes are actually stored on a separate QMT machine, and my SA
boxes simply do the scanning/filtering before passing the mail to the
next hop using smtproutes. Just fishing for some ideas.


The sa-learn program updates the bayes database, using the shared 
mailboxes as input. Exporting the shared mailboxes via nfs seems 
suitable to me.


I think the trickier part is having multiple scanners. You'll need some 
way of replicating the bayes databases between the two. I don't know if 
a bayes database can be shared at all.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: qmailmrtg

2012-03-02 Thread Casey Price

On 3/2/12 4:24 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 03/02/2012 04:47 PM, Casey Price wrote:

Eric - do we have any plans to be using supervise and
multilog/daemontools log format for dovecot in the future? It sure is
nice when all (or at least many) of your components are using the same
logging mechanism/format, and storing them in a standardized location.


No. In fact, I expect QMT will be migrating to systemd and rsyslog at 
some point in the future. I think it'll be best in the long run if we 
use dovecot in the same way as it's packaged for the distro, in this 
case using init scripts and syslog.

That makes total sense. I just wanted to figure out the gameplan.
Note, dovecot is very sensitive to time. This can be a little 
problematic on VMs, as timekeeping is trickier there. A simple 
solution is to run this script as a cron job every minute or so:

service dovecot status /dev/null 21 || \
service dovecot start /dev/null 21
I believe this is mentioned on the wiki as well, and I'm fairly certain 
I'm using the exact same script if not something very close.

Not to get too far off track here, but while we are on the topic of
dovecot...has anyone had any experience setting up shared/public
namespaces in dovecot for global spam/ham folders?


I do that. Here's part of the dovecot config:
# This namespace can be used for people to dump their spam/ham into.
# A cron job can then use them as input to sa-learn.
# See qmailtoaster-plus for a sample script.
namespace {
  location = maildir:/home/vpopmail/domains/mydomain.com/sa-learn
  prefix = sa-learn.
  separator = .
  type = public
}


I'm trying to figure
out the best way to train spamassassin, and the issue at hand is that
the mailboxes are actually stored on a separate QMT machine, and my SA
boxes simply do the scanning/filtering before passing the mail to the
next hop using smtproutes. Just fishing for some ideas.


The sa-learn program updates the bayes database, using the shared 
mailboxes as input. Exporting the shared mailboxes via nfs seems 
suitable to me.


I think the trickier part is having multiple scanners. You'll need 
some way of replicating the bayes databases between the two. I don't 
know if a bayes database can be shared at all.
This shouldn't be an issue for me, as I'm not running spamd on the QMT 
box which contains the users. Instead I'm currently using the following 
hierarchy:

  -- POP
GW1 -- SA1 -- Q2
 -- vCluster1
(I'm currently building a new server that will eventually take the place 
of GW1  SA1 and consolidate them into one host). My real problem here 
is that the GW  SA boxes don't actually know which users exist...they 
simply have all of our domains listed in rcphosts  goodrptto, and then 
smtproutes is setup accordingly to pass mail from GW1 to SA1, and then 
SA1 passes it on to one of the 3 servers listed above. Obviously this 
isn't the ideal configuration, and I'd like to change it...but that is a 
major overhaul, and I'm trying to gradually improve my infrastructure.


Ideally I would like to follow Bill Schupp's Qmail ISP Array model that 
Eric posted a link to awhile back...but it will be a little while before 
that can happen. So in the meantime, I'm trying to at least find ways to 
automate the learning of spam/ham from a remote mailbox to my SA boxes - 
if that makes sense?


So the question is do I create a namespace for each domain on each of 
the 3 servers, or can I share one for all domains on each server, or 
finally - can I create a shared namespace somewhere that all 3 servers 
could access?


Sorry to complicate things :-P

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[qmailtoaster] Re: qmailmrtg

2012-03-02 Thread Eric Shubert

On 03/02/2012 04:47 PM, Casey Price wrote:

Not to get too far off track here, but while we are on the topic of
dovecot...has anyone had any experience setting up shared/public
namespaces in dovecot for global spam/ham folders? I'm trying to figure
out the best way to train spamassassin, and the issue at hand is that
the mailboxes are actually stored on a separate QMT machine, and my SA
boxes simply do the scanning/filtering before passing the mail to the
next hop using smtproutes. Just fishing for some ideas.


Let me try this again. ;)

I think you're asking for trouble by setting up a mechanism where by 
users can train your bayes database, at least in an ISP setting with 
multiple domains. What's spam to one person could be ham to another. 
With so many users, this could easily get out of hand.


To begin with, SA is not intended nor geared for global learning. At 
best it can handle relatively small domains. Certainly not cross-domain 
learning. When it comes to global learning, DSpam is better at that. 
Unfortunately, QMT doesn't do DSpam yet, and don't expect it soon.


What problem is it that you're trying to address? I think setting up SA 
with training in an ISP setting is perhaps a solution that'll end up 
being worse than the problem it's intended to solve. I'm not running an 
ISP setting though, so I could be wrong.


Any ISP users out here that have an opinion about this?

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: qmailmrtg

2012-03-02 Thread Casey Price

On 3/2/12 5:12 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:

On 03/02/2012 04:47 PM, Casey Price wrote:

Not to get too far off track here, but while we are on the topic of
dovecot...has anyone had any experience setting up shared/public
namespaces in dovecot for global spam/ham folders? I'm trying to figure
out the best way to train spamassassin, and the issue at hand is that
the mailboxes are actually stored on a separate QMT machine, and my SA
boxes simply do the scanning/filtering before passing the mail to the
next hop using smtproutes. Just fishing for some ideas.


Let me try this again. ;)

Thanks :-)
I think you're asking for trouble by setting up a mechanism where by 
users can train your bayes database, at least in an ISP setting with 
multiple domains. What's spam to one person could be ham to another. 
With so many users, this could easily get out of hand.
That is a very good point. I guess I wasn't necessarily thinking I'd be 
allowing the users to do the training, but that spam would be put 
somewhere, and I could periodically run sa-learn against said spam, 
although from what you wrote below it sounds like that is even a recipe 
for trouble.
To begin with, SA is not intended nor geared for global learning. At 
best it can handle relatively small domains. Certainly not 
cross-domain learning. When it comes to global learning, DSpam is 
better at that. Unfortunately, QMT doesn't do DSpam yet, and don't 
expect it soon.


What problem is it that you're trying to address? I think setting up 
SA with training in an ISP setting is perhaps a solution that'll end 
up being worse than the problem it's intended to solve. I'm not 
running an ISP setting though, so I could be wrong.
The problem is that some of my customers are complaining about increased 
levels of spam. Some domains get a ton of spam, while others hardly any 
at all. I really want to make use of spamdyke as much as I can, as it 
really reduces the load on the server and prevents mail from being 
accepted and processed that doesn't need to be. Some of the spam is 
being tagged by spamassassin, while some is not.


Ultimately, allowing per-domain or even per-user spamassassin configs 
would be ideal, but therein lies my problem...spamassassin is running on 
a separate server (a server that just knows about each domain it serves, 
not which users belong to the domain). So...perhaps my answer is to run 
the spamc client on my servers at the last hop, and have them connect to 
the spamassassin box.


I'm basically just looking for an effective way to improve my spam 
filtering, and allow different configs for different users/domains 
without having to restructure my whole system. How are other large hosts 
or ISPs doing things?

Any ISP users out here that have an opinion about this?

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: qtp-newmodel issue (related to repos)

2012-03-02 Thread Biju Jose
Hi Eric,

That worked, thanks.

Biju Jose
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Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: qtp-newmodel issue (related to repos)

On 03/01/2012 07:52 AM, Biju Jose wrote:
 Building ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.9 ...
 error: /usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS/ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.9.src.rpm cannot 
 be installed

Your src.rpm file is bad. Remove it, then rerun qtp-newmodel and select 
a fresh sandbox.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Mail box size

2012-03-02 Thread rajeshrudramani
Hi,


  When we login into qmailadmin for that user below error  is
showing  user quota is in minus.



Email account   Used/Quota(MB)
zzz- 2048/unlimited


Regards,
Rajesh









On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Dan McAllister q...@it4soho.com wrote:

  On 3/2/2012 9:37 AM, Bharath Chari wrote:

 On Friday 02 March 2012 07:45 PM, rajeshrudramani wrote:

 Hi,


In qmail single user when touches 2GB mail box size  was
 showing IMAP error(but user didn't have quota restriction) . For many user
 getting this error in webmail.



 Let's be clear here - in QMT there is no limit to the size of a mailbox,
 except for the storage allocation on the filesystem in which it is stored
 (or the quota established). This is because the Mailbox in QMT is NOT A
 SINGLE FILE - it is a folder, with subfolders used to organize things, and
 each message being a separate file in one of those sub-folders. These are
 called Maildirs.

 THIS IS CONCEPTUALLY DIFFERENT from other mail systems, *esp. Exchange*,
 where a Mailbox is in fact a database that is stored locally on the
 server's fileystem. On those systems, you often run into file size
 limitations (like 2GB for older, 32-bit Exchange servers). Some other
 UNIX-based mail servers also use a database-type of format, usually MBOX
 (which is terrible for today's kinds of e-mail), but also sometimes MySQL.

 So why is the user having a problem? The issue with very large mailboxes
 in this case is being caused by the CLIENT software (or, possibly, as was
 mentioned earlier) by the Courier IMAP server.

 HOWEVER, if you're having trouble in QMT (and assuming courier-imap 
 squirrelmail), and the issue is the number of messages (not really
 size-related), then you can do what I did for a client who assumed that,
 like when he ran into this problem on Exchange, it would take many hours of
 compressing, repairing, and/or re-indexing to fix... My fix (outlined
 below) took 10 minutes total!

 I simply went into his Maildir inbox and created new Maildir folders for
 each year (he had 8 years worth of e-mails). (NOTE: These were Maildir
 folders, so each had a cur, new, and tmp sub-folder). Lastly, I used the
 find command to move everything dated 2005 from the Inbox cur folder to the
 new 2005 sub-folder (again, actually to the *cur *subdirectory).. then I
 did it again for 2006 and so on up to 2010... I left him with only 2011 and
 2012 messages in his actual inbox, then forced Courier to rebuild the
 message indicies for each (by removing the old indices and re-accessing
 from the client). Solved his Squirrelmail problem instantly... (NOTE:
 Outlook creates a pseudo-PST file for each IMAP account -- and it being a
 PST file, it has the limits of a PST file in that version of outlook... so
 this solution may not work for everyone in every giant inbox situation...)

 One final note - for this same user, I had to do the same to his Sent
 folder -- similiarly HUGE after 8 years of use!

 I hope this helps some...

 Dan
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Re: [qmailtoaster] qmailmrtg

2012-03-02 Thread Martin Waschbüsch
Casey,

Am 03.03.2012 um 02:32 schrieb Casey Price:

 I'm basically just looking for an effective way to improve my spam filtering, 
 and allow different configs for different users/domains without having to 
 restructure my whole system. How are other large hosts or ISPs doing things?
 Any ISP users out here that have an opinion about this? 
 Casey Price

If you're looking for a per-user spam filter, you might want to consider 
something like this:

http://www.maiamailguard.com/maia/wiki

Although, I guess the best thing would be to separate the filter from the mail 
server and have it act as a security / ant-spam / anti-malware gateway.

Martin

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