[qmailtoaster] Re: quota warning message
Peter Peltonen wrote: Hi, On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: I didn't know you can disable quotas at the domain level (learn something new every day). I'd give it a shot. Oh, and please let us know how you do that, and how it works. Well if you don't know about it, then I've might misunderstood something :) But at least in QControl when editing an domain I have the option: Domain Quota in megabytes (0 for no quota): I checked now the command line tools and it appears that the domain quota can be set also with /home/vpopmail/bin/vmoddomlimits which has the following options: -Q quota-in-megabytes ( set domain disk quota, '100' = 100 MB ) -q quota-in-bytes ( set default user quota, '10M' = 10 MB ) Never used these though. Does anyone here have experience on setting the domain disk quota limit and how it reflects on user quotas? Best, Peter - FWIW, this was just posted on the vpopmail list by Paval Yanchenko: quote 1) To use maildirsize files you have to configure vpopmail without --enable-domainquotas option. Then each user with defined quota will have file called maildirsize in his maildir. E.g. /home/vpopmail/domains/example.com/username/Maildir/maildirsize This file contains information about disk space usage and is updated every time user deletes messages via pop3/imap or new message arrives. You can read more about this method here: http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/README.maildirquota.html /quote QMT doesn't appear to configure domainquotas specifically, so it should be using whatever the default setting is. I'll let someone else check what that value is. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: quota warning message
Hi, On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Michael Colvin mcol...@norcalisp.com wrote: I would add to Eric's comments that I don't think simply disabling the Quota Warning Message is going to work, or that it's even a good idea. Sure, your user's won't get the message, but will quotas still be enforced? If so, your users will, without warning, start having mail bounced... I would either disable quotas, or jack them up stupidly high, then disable the messages... Although, I'm guessing just disabling them would be the best bet for now. Is it enough if I diasble the quotas at domain level? That overrides the settings that has been disabled for individual users, right? Best, Peter - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: quota warning message
Peter Peltonen wrote: Hi, On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: I didn't know you can disable quotas at the domain level (learn something new every day). I'd give it a shot. Oh, and please let us know how you do that, and how it works. Well if you don't know about it, then I've might misunderstood something :) But at least in QControl when editing an domain I have the option: Domain Quota in megabytes (0 for no quota): I checked now the command line tools and it appears that the domain quota can be set also with /home/vpopmail/bin/vmoddomlimits which has the following options: -Q quota-in-megabytes ( set domain disk quota, '100' = 100 MB ) -q quota-in-bytes ( set default user quota, '10M' = 10 MB ) Never used these though. Does anyone here have experience on setting the domain disk quota limit and how it reflects on user quotas? Best, Peter I've never used them, personally, but it would seem logical that domain wide quota's would override global settings, and users would override domain...But, that's just a guess. Mike - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: quota warning message
Michael Colvin wrote: Peter Peltonen wrote: Hi, On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: I didn't know you can disable quotas at the domain level (learn something new every day). I'd give it a shot. Oh, and please let us know how you do that, and how it works. Well if you don't know about it, then I've might misunderstood something :) But at least in QControl when editing an domain I have the option: Domain Quota in megabytes (0 for no quota): I checked now the command line tools and it appears that the domain quota can be set also with /home/vpopmail/bin/vmoddomlimits which has the following options: -Q quota-in-megabytes ( set domain disk quota, '100' = 100 MB ) -q quota-in-bytes ( set default user quota, '10M' = 10 MB ) Never used these though. Does anyone here have experience on setting the domain disk quota limit and how it reflects on user quotas? Best, Peter I've never used them, personally, but it would seem logical that domain wide quota's would override global settings, and users would override domain...But, that's just a guess. Mike Quotas in Qmailtoaster (vpopmail really) have, well, mixed results. It seems they either work for you or they do not. I personally have never had an issue with them on any of my systems, but I will also admit that I have not thoroughly tested them either. Drives are *so* cheap these days that I just don't worry about quotas for users and either set no quota or something ridiculously high. A 1TB drive can be found for ~$90USD these days (I know - I have two) and at that price why not let the users have their email boxes back? Anyway, I put those options in QControl since vpopmail supported them. I have not thoroughly tested any of the extended options for vpopmail in general, so any feedback is appreciated and can be added to the wiki for future users if nothing else. Thanks.
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: quota warning message
Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Peter Peltonen wrote: Today a user of my qmailtoaster server received a quota warning message like this: From: Mail Delivery System mailer-dae...@example.com Subject: Mail quota warning X-Comment: Rename/Copy this file to ~vpopmail/domains/.quotawarn.msg, andmake appropriate changes Your mailbox on the server is now more than 90% full. So that you can continue to receive mail you need to remove some messages from your mailbox. I haven't seen this kind of quota warnings issued before. Also a strange thing is that the user's quota is nowhere near full (it's about 11%). I checke and the quota warning message template is ~vpopmail/domains/.quotawarn.msg there. If I remove it, will it disable these false alarms? Or is there a way to configure the warning messages so, that they actually are sent when user is near exceeding her quota? Best, Peter Removing the file will cause no messages to be sent, regardless of quota level. Just out of curiosity, can you see what the user's actual disk usage is? I know there have been some bugs with quotas in the past and am wondering if it's not counting actual drive usage in vpopmail, but only the inbox folders in Squirrelmail. Hopefully the next release of vpopmail will resolve some of the bugs with quotas. Bad news: quotas are broken on QMT. I'm not sure to what extent. Easy fix is to change their account to unlimited. :( Good news: quotas work better in a more recent vpopmail release (5.4.28 I think) than what is in QMT. This is not a simple upgrade though, as I think there is a small database change somewhere between QMT's version (5.4.17) and 5.4.28. Better news: quotas have reportedly been really fixed in vpopmail 5.5. I will be working on packaging vpopmail-5.5 for QMT when it's available (with LDAP), which I expect will be in the first quarter of '10. I am not sure what are you talking about. Quota in latest QMT is broken? But, i have installed latest QMT on one of my servers and as far as i can see quota is ok. Quota warnings are sent and mails refused if user is overquota. latest vpopmail in qmt is 5.4.17. Should i be warried? Currently i have few thousands of users on that server... Also, squirrelmail is displaying correct quota usage, no matter where email was saved. Same goes for roundcube. - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: quota warning message
Hi, On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: Bad news: quotas are broken on QMT. I'm not sure to what extent. Easy fix is to change their account to unlimited. :( Good news: quotas work better in a more recent vpopmail release (5.4.28 I think) than what is in QMT. This is not a simple upgrade though, as I think there is a small database change somewhere between QMT's version (5.4.17) and 5.4.28. Better news: quotas have reportedly been really fixed in vpopmail 5.5. I will be working on packaging vpopmail-5.5 for QMT when it's available (with LDAP), which I expect will be in the first quarter of '10. Thanks for clarifying this. I now disabled the quota warning messages: # mv /home/vpopmail/domains/.quotawarn.msg /home/vpopmail/domains/.quotawarn.msg-notinuse Is it really that badly broken, that I really should disable quotas for every user or is disabling the warning message enough? Best, Peter - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: quota warning message
Igor Smitran wrote: Eric Shubert wrote: Jake Vickers wrote: Peter Peltonen wrote: Today a user of my qmailtoaster server received a quota warning message like this: From: Mail Delivery System mailer-dae...@example.com Subject: Mail quota warning X-Comment: Rename/Copy this file to ~vpopmail/domains/.quotawarn.msg, andmake appropriate changes Your mailbox on the server is now more than 90% full. So that you can continue to receive mail you need to remove some messages from your mailbox. I haven't seen this kind of quota warnings issued before. Also a strange thing is that the user's quota is nowhere near full (it's about 11%). I checke and the quota warning message template is ~vpopmail/domains/.quotawarn.msg there. If I remove it, will it disable these false alarms? Or is there a way to configure the warning messages so, that they actually are sent when user is near exceeding her quota? Best, Peter Removing the file will cause no messages to be sent, regardless of quota level. Just out of curiosity, can you see what the user's actual disk usage is? I know there have been some bugs with quotas in the past and am wondering if it's not counting actual drive usage in vpopmail, but only the inbox folders in Squirrelmail. Hopefully the next release of vpopmail will resolve some of the bugs with quotas. Bad news: quotas are broken on QMT. I'm not sure to what extent. Easy fix is to change their account to unlimited. :( Good news: quotas work better in a more recent vpopmail release (5.4.28 I think) than what is in QMT. This is not a simple upgrade though, as I think there is a small database change somewhere between QMT's version (5.4.17) and 5.4.28. Better news: quotas have reportedly been really fixed in vpopmail 5.5. I will be working on packaging vpopmail-5.5 for QMT when it's available (with LDAP), which I expect will be in the first quarter of '10. I am not sure what are you talking about. Quota in latest QMT is broken? But, i have installed latest QMT on one of my servers and as far as i can see quota is ok. Quota warnings are sent and mails refused if user is overquota. latest vpopmail in qmt is 5.4.17. Should i be warried? Currently i have few thousands of users on that server... Also, squirrelmail is displaying correct quota usage, no matter where email was saved. Same goes for roundcube. I don't know what causes the problem with quotas. You might try finding something about it in the vpopmail list archives. Please report back here if you find something pertinent. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: quota warning message
Peter Peltonen wrote: Hi, On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: Bad news: quotas are broken on QMT. I'm not sure to what extent. Easy fix is to change their account to unlimited. :( Good news: quotas work better in a more recent vpopmail release (5.4.28 I think) than what is in QMT. This is not a simple upgrade though, as I think there is a small database change somewhere between QMT's version (5.4.17) and 5.4.28. Better news: quotas have reportedly been really fixed in vpopmail 5.5. I will be working on packaging vpopmail-5.5 for QMT when it's available (with LDAP), which I expect will be in the first quarter of '10. Thanks for clarifying this. I now disabled the quota warning messages: # mv /home/vpopmail/domains/.quotawarn.msg /home/vpopmail/domains/.quotawarn.msg-notinuse Is it really that badly broken, that I really should disable quotas for every user or is disabling the warning message enough? Best, Peter I honestly don't know the extent to which quotas are broken. I suppose they might work under some circumstances, but I'm not aware of what those circumstances are. I also don't know what the best fix would be for all situations. For me, simply not using it is sufficient. If I really needed it, I think I'd check the vpopmail list archives to see what's known about the problem first. Then either attempt to upgrade to 5.4.28, or simply ride out the status quo and wait for 5.5 to become available. -- -Eric 'shubes' I would add to Eric's comments that I don't think simply disabling the Quota Warning Message is going to work, or that it's even a good idea. Sure, your user's won't get the message, but will quotas still be enforced? If so, your users will, without warning, start having mail bounced... I would either disable quotas, or jack them up stupidly high, then disable the messages... Although, I'm guessing just disabling them would be the best bet for now. Mike - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
[qmailtoaster] Re: quota warning message
Jake Vickers wrote: Peter Peltonen wrote: Today a user of my qmailtoaster server received a quota warning message like this: From: Mail Delivery System mailer-dae...@example.com Subject: Mail quota warning X-Comment: Rename/Copy this file to ~vpopmail/domains/.quotawarn.msg, andmake appropriate changes Your mailbox on the server is now more than 90% full. So that you can continue to receive mail you need to remove some messages from your mailbox. I haven't seen this kind of quota warnings issued before. Also a strange thing is that the user's quota is nowhere near full (it's about 11%). I checke and the quota warning message template is ~vpopmail/domains/.quotawarn.msg there. If I remove it, will it disable these false alarms? Or is there a way to configure the warning messages so, that they actually are sent when user is near exceeding her quota? Best, Peter Removing the file will cause no messages to be sent, regardless of quota level. Just out of curiosity, can you see what the user's actual disk usage is? I know there have been some bugs with quotas in the past and am wondering if it's not counting actual drive usage in vpopmail, but only the inbox folders in Squirrelmail. Hopefully the next release of vpopmail will resolve some of the bugs with quotas. Bad news: quotas are broken on QMT. I'm not sure to what extent. Easy fix is to change their account to unlimited. :( Good news: quotas work better in a more recent vpopmail release (5.4.28 I think) than what is in QMT. This is not a simple upgrade though, as I think there is a small database change somewhere between QMT's version (5.4.17) and 5.4.28. Better news: quotas have reportedly been really fixed in vpopmail 5.5. I will be working on packaging vpopmail-5.5 for QMT when it's available (with LDAP), which I expect will be in the first quarter of '10. -- -Eric 'shubes' - Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! - Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-unsubscr...@qmailtoaster.com For additional commands, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list-h...@qmailtoaster.com
