Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting problem
if you are using QMT-ISO you need to change several qmail's control file other than localhost Yup, have done this also. What ever is going on, it's either something simple, or not obvious to me or who knows what :). I do appreciate your help on this! Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: once I was using apache/php application on intranet machine (on local network) sending email using smtp of new QMT-ISO box (on public net) and I get this error ... while talking to mails.myholding.com.: MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=1313 511 sorry, can't find a valid MX for sender domain (#5.1.1 - chkuser) 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable Well, since it's not actually bouncing and just being deferred, that's not too bad at least. It does seem to fail often enough however and I've been ripping my hair out trying to figure out why. I do have MX, SPF and RDNS records for everything. okay I give up, I dont know what else to suggest you. what I told you before resolved my problem. maybe others have another experience about it. I am just curios, you said this is new QMT server, are you build it using qmailtoaster's install script or QMT-ISO ? if you are using QMT-ISO you need to change several qmail's control file other than localhost otherwise your server's IP will be listed on cbl.abuseat.org (like me before) and perhaps Yahoo/gmail/hotmail use CBL please check this http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/QMT-ISO_Manual_Guide#Setup_.2Fvar.2Fqmail.2Fcontrol_.27s_files - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting problem
once I was using apache/php application on intranet machine (on local network) sending email using smtp of new QMT-ISO box (on public net) and I get this error ... while talking to mails.myholding.com.: MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=1313 511 sorry, can't find a valid MX for sender domain (#5.1.1 - chkuser) 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable Well, since it's not actually bouncing and just being deferred, that's not too bad at least. It does seem to fail often enough however and I've been ripping my hair out trying to figure out why. I do have MX, SPF and RDNS records for everything. Yet, I keep getting things like; To Yahoo, delivery 239: deferral: Connected_to_209.191.118.103_but_greeting_failed./Remote_host_said:_ 421_Message_from_(x.x.x.250)_temporarily_deferred_-_4.16.50._ Please_refer_to_http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html/ delivery 244: deferral: Connected_to_216.39.53.3_but_greeting_failed./Remote_host_said:_ 421_Message_from_(x.x.x.250)_temporarily_deferred_-_4.16.50._ Please_refer_to_http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html/ delivery 248: deferral: Connected_to_216.39.53.1_but_greeting_failed./Remote_host_said:_ 421_Message_from_(x.x.x.250)_temporarily_deferred_-_4.16.50._ Please_refer_to_http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html/ delivery 259: deferral: Connected_to_206.190.53.191_but_greeting_failed./Remote_host_said:_ 421_Message_from_(x.x.x.250)_temporarily_deferred_-_4.16.50._ Please_refer_to_http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html/ To Hotmail; delivery 236: deferral: Connected_to_64.233.163.27_but_connection_died._(#4.4.2)/ Gmail messages and hotmail don't even show up at all and no bounces either. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: These are examples of messages I am receiving; To Yahoo, delivery 239: deferral: Connected_to_209.191.118.103_but_greeting_failed./Remote_host_said:_ 421_Message_from_(x.x.x.250)_temporarily_deferred_-_4.16.50._ Please_refer_to_http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html/ correct, these are the same thing happen when I am installing new server with QMT-ISO Yahoo said it only greylist your server and my server will try again but unfortunately they greylist to fast within 1 day I get more than 50 of these error follow the link my dear friend you will find a form to filled to contact Yahoo Admin. (it require Yahoo's account to access it) http://help.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/mail/cgi_defer and choose Yahoo! Mail Errors and Problems Form fill out the form once and wait 2-3 days for response if no response, fill it again and a day for response no response again? this time you have to fill it as you very need them, desperate, use foul language, yell... what ever to get their attention. until finally the email back to you. or do you want email Yahoo directly ?? use it [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] good luck!!! To Hotmail; delivery 236: deferral: Connected_to_64.233.163.27_but_connection_died._(#4.4.2)/ I never experience with Hotmail, dont have friends or users with Hotmail's account - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting problem
PS: These are examples of messages I am receiving; To Yahoo, delivery 239: deferral: Connected_to_209.191.118.103_but_greeting_failed./Remote_host_said:_ 421_Message_from_(x.x.x.250)_temporarily_deferred_-_4.16.50._ Please_refer_to_http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html/ To Hotmail; delivery 236: deferral: Connected_to_64.233.163.27_but_connection_died._(#4.4.2)/ - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, apache/php applications that use this new server to send sign up emails out definitely mostly have these issues. On the other hand, users who have email accounts on that same server can send out to those domains without deferrals. once I was using apache/php application on intranet machine (on local network) sending email using smtp of new QMT-ISO box (on public net) and I get this error ... while talking to mails.myholding.com.: MAIL From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=1313 511 sorry, can't find a valid MX for sender domain (#5.1.1 - chkuser) 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable until finally I add my machine A record on DNS server, the application can use QMT to sending email again http://am3n.profusehost.net/post/index/73/511-sorry-cant-find-a-valid-MX-for-sender-domain-511--chkuser - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting problem
I am a little confused about your email? is it email from your server being graylisted when you sent to Yahoo / Hotmail ? Yes, I thought I did say it was coming from the new server I built. Outgoing to yahoo for example immediately is deferred from this server but not another one on my network. Email to hotmail just plain disappears a lot, there is never even a bounce. I'm happy to list what ever I need to the list so that someone can help me. The problem seems to be that remote servers see email sent from other machines on my network as being relayed or something. For example, apache/php applications that use this new server to send sign up emails out definitely mostly have these issues. On the other hand, users who have email accounts on that same server can send out to those domains without deferrals. If so try to setup SPF record for your domain? detailed intruction is available on wiki I do have spf set up for my dns servers but I've left QMT at level 1 since any higher just keeps getting bounces. At a low level, the receiver at least sees that I am using spf and seems to allow the mail more often than not. My experience for YahooMail they have AntiSpam system so every time I sent email to yahoo, it stuck in queue for sometime because deffered by Yahoo until I am ask Yahoo to whitelist my servers' IP address (they ask I may have to do that but it would only be for this new server. That's why I thought I would ask here to get some ideas before changing too many things or contacting various sites. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, since it's not actually bouncing and just being deferred, that's not too bad at least. It does seem to fail often enough however and I've been ripping my hair out trying to figure out why. I do have MX, SPF and RDNS records for everything. Yet, I keep getting things like; To Yahoo, delivery 239: deferral: Connected_to_209.191.118.103_but_greeting_failed./Remote_host_said:_ 421_Message_from_(x.x.x.250)_temporarily_deferred_-_4.16.50._ Please_refer_to_http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html/ delivery 244: deferral: Connected_to_216.39.53.3_but_greeting_failed./Remote_host_said:_ 421_Message_from_(x.x.x.250)_temporarily_deferred_-_4.16.50._ Please_refer_to_http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html/ Do you have a PTR (reverse) DNS record set up? To get mails to Yahoo you'll have to fill out their form. If your server has been around a long time, you'll be in their list. Otherwise you'll be greylisted by them and have to fill out that form. Hotmail will block you if you do not have a valid PTR record like AOL does if I remember correctly. When you contact Yahoo, also let them know they are sending a link that no longer exists in their defer messages - that can get annoying fast. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [qmailtoaster] Greylisting problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New QMT installed, everything seems to be running right but, someone told me that I am being greylisted. I've noticed many emails don't actually make it to hotmail, yahoo, and many others. I was told it's because I am being greylisted. Can someone shed some light on this? I've also found this but prefer asking the list for input before I go changing too much. http://www.kabewm.com/2007/01/16/basic-qmailtoaster-greylisting/ Mike I am a little confused about your email? is it email from your server being graylisted when you sent to Yahoo / Hotmail ? If so try to setup SPF record for your domain? detailed intruction is available on wiki My experience for YahooMail they have AntiSpam system so every time I sent email to yahoo, it stuck in queue for sometime because deffered by Yahoo until I am ask Yahoo to whitelist my servers' IP address (they ask a lot of questionare for this) and for http://www.kabewm.com/2007/01/16/basic-qmailtoaster-greylisting/ it will provide a graylisting on your mailsystem. so everytime someone sent you email at first time his email will be deffered with 451 error - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] Greylisting problem
New QMT installed, everything seems to be running right but, someone told me that I am being greylisted. I've noticed many emails don't actually make it to hotmail, yahoo, and many others. I was told it's because I am being greylisted. Can someone shed some light on this? I've also found this but prefer asking the list for input before I go changing too much. http://www.kabewm.com/2007/01/16/basic-qmailtoaster-greylisting/ Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
