Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
Not sure if this is relevant, but a similar problem had to do with lacking SPF or lack of reverse DNS settings - many providers, including AOL, Yahoo and Hotmail, will now defer or reject mail if reverse DNS resolution fails. I've just been going through something like that, where all of my reverse DNS failed after changing IPs on my mail server, and a lot of my customers' mails were bouncing. Resetting up and correcting reverse DNS, as well as making sure your SPF is properly set, fixes it. Harry On Jan 3, 2008, at 9:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea Mike, I'm not sure why Yahoo and Hotmail don't like you. That is really strange. I have 2 different post offices I run, one is the QMT and Something with the firewall then as we've been mulling around. I don't see much else and it's one of those things where you look at it too long, you'll see nothing new or obvious. Is it possible you were listed by Yahoo at one time for spamming? I'm pretty certain your problem has nothing to do with QMT itself. Too many people are running QMT without this problem. Kind of doubt it, especially since the tests don't show anything like that. The email just keeps getting deferred, not blocked. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
Check if your reverse DNS settings check out fine. On Jan 3, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Kyle Quillen wrote: I have this exact same problem and am yet to figure out what it is. some times it goes to the bulk mail folder sometimes it just gets deferred back to me and i am no idea what it would be. Q On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 20:58 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea Mike, I'm not sure why Yahoo and Hotmail don't like you. That is really strange. I have 2 different post offices I run, one is the QMT and Something with the firewall then as we've been mulling around. I don't see much else and it's one of those things where you look at it too long, you'll see nothing new or obvious. Is it possible you were listed by Yahoo at one time for spamming? I'm pretty certain your problem has nothing to do with QMT itself. Too many people are running QMT without this problem. Kind of doubt it, especially since the tests don't show anything like that. The email just keeps getting deferred, not blocked. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: qmailtoaster-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
Resetting up and correcting reverse DNS, as well as making sure your SPF is properly set, fixes it. Too true, those were in fact some of the issues as well. I had just installed new DNS servers and had messed up a few things here and there. DNS is probably one of the biggest reasons for email breaking. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
I, like you, busted my butt getting domain keys working. My DNS is farmed out and my provider (dnsmadeeasy) couldn't tell me how to set up the dk txt records via its interface. Trial and error finally prevailed, though. So you're getting email out to most of the big boys now without problems? I hoped it might simply take some time, you know, sending a few emails now and then to finally see yahoo/hotmail accepting without issues. It's not the case for me. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
QMT-ISO 1.4.0 has been released and is now ready for download. It's available at http://qmtiso.com Here's the latest changelog: version 1.4.0 - 01/01/2008 Updated all packages to CentOS 4.6 Added 'iftop' utility - it's what top is for CPUs, only for network interfaces Removed watchall and cwatchall, since they're now provided in QTPlus. You will need to install from qtp-menu. Added QTPlus repository to installation, and we now install the package from there Removed checkin script (defunct). Removed other scripts that are now included with QTPlus (redundant) Added a version marker in /etc (/etc/QMTISO-version) to be used in the future - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
Seeing you updating packages to CentOS brings up a question I've been wondering about... I'm running QMT on Fedora 6 and everything is fine. I know the install instructions/scripts are essentially the same for Fed6 and CentOS. Since I'm pretty new to the linux world, what is the difference between Fed6 and CentOS? Under the covers they are the same I guess but is CentOS more streamlined as a server? Is it worth considering a changeover? I don't mean to start any big chocolate vs. vanilla debate. Phil Original message- From: Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 12:36:30 -0500 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out QMT-ISO 1.4.0 has been released and is now ready for download. It's available at http://qmtiso.com Here's the latest changelog: version 1.4.0 - 01/01/2008 Updated all packages to CentOS 4.6 Added 'iftop' utility - it's what top is for CPUs, only for network interfaces Removed watchall and cwatchall, since they're now provided in QTPlus. You will need to install from qtp-menu. Added QTPlus repository to installation, and we now install the package from there Removed checkin script (defunct). Removed other scripts that are now included with QTPlus (redundant) Added a version marker in /etc (/etc/QMTISO-version) to be used in the future - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
Phil Leinhauser wrote: Seeing you updating packages to CentOS brings up a question I've been wondering about... I'm running QMT on Fedora 6 and everything is fine. I know the install instructions/scripts are essentially the same for Fed6 and CentOS. Since I'm pretty new to the linux world, what is the difference between Fed6 and CentOS? Under the covers they are the same I guess but is CentOS more streamlined as a server? Is it worth considering a changeover? I don't mean to start any big chocolate vs. vanilla debate. Its actually rather easy. CentOS is a clone of RHEL (RedHat Enterprise Linux), which is all the stable packages from Fedora. Once a package is stable and has all the bugs fixed in Fedora (usually a year or so), then it gets moved to RHEL (and subsequently CentOS). You also get updates longer with CentOS, since it's a mirror of RHEL. Fedora has support for 2-3 years (if I remember right), whereas RHEL/CentOS usually keep updating packages for 5-10 years. If a major problem arises with my FC4 installation that I still run, I'm out of luck or have to fix it myself since support for FC4 has ended. RHEL4/CentOS4 is supposed to have updates until Feb 29, 2012. Does that answer it for you? - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
Since I installed using 1.3.1, is there an upgrade path? It would be cool to pop the CD in and have an upgrade option. I'm guessing that would be very complicated so it's just a wish :). Mike On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 10:37:05 -0500, Jake Vickers wrote: QMT-ISO 1.4.0 has been released and is now ready for download. It's available at http://qmtiso.com Here's the latest changelog: version 1.4.0 - 01/01/2008 Updated all packages to CentOS 4.6 Added 'iftop' utility - it's what top is for CPUs, only for network interfaces Removed watchall and cwatchall, since they're now provided in QTPlus. You will need to install from qtp-menu. Added QTPlus repository to installation, and we now install the package from there Removed checkin script (defunct). Removed other scripts that are now included with QTPlus (redundant) Added a version marker in /etc (/etc/QMTISO-version) to be used in the future - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
Thanks Jake, That covers it exactly. The FC6 I have is no different than what CentOS will be in a version or 2 and there is no compelling reason to move over to it. I thought it might be something like that but you just filled in the gaps. Thanks, Phil -Original message- From: Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:28:38 -0500 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out Phil Leinhauser wrote: Seeing you updating packages to CentOS brings up a question I've been wondering about... I'm running QMT on Fedora 6 and everything is fine. I know the install instructions/scripts are essentially the same for Fed6 and CentOS. Since I'm pretty new to the linux world, what is the difference between Fed6 and CentOS? Under the covers they are the same I guess but is CentOS more streamlined as a server? Is it worth considering a changeover? I don't mean to start any big chocolate vs. vanilla debate. Its actually rather easy. CentOS is a clone of RHEL (RedHat Enterprise Linux), which is all the stable packages from Fedora. Once a package is stable and has all the bugs fixed in Fedora (usually a year or so), then it gets moved to RHEL (and subsequently CentOS). You also get updates longer with CentOS, since it's a mirror of RHEL. Fedora has support for 2-3 years (if I remember right), whereas RHEL/CentOS usually keep updating packages for 5-10 years. If a major problem arises with my FC4 installation that I still run, I'm out of luck or have to fix it myself since support for FC4 has ended. RHEL4/CentOS4 is supposed to have updates until Feb 29, 2012. Does that answer it for you? - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I installed using 1.3.1, is there an upgrade path? It would be cool to pop the CD in and have an upgrade option. I'm guessing that would be very complicated so it's just a wish :). It's something I'm thinking about doing, but due to the amount of work involved would probably not be in the freebie bin (ie: a subscription service). It's hard to take time away from my own business to work on projects such as this (I work on several other OSS projects as well). If it did come to light, it would be a yum update to update all the features, and packages. Right now suggestions are best. I do not get many any more (even far-fetched ones), so I don't know what everyone is looking for. I add what I find useful, but that may not be what you find useful. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
Phil Leinhauser wrote: Thanks Jake, That covers it exactly. The FC6 I have is no different than what CentOS will be in a version or 2 and there is no compelling reason to move over to it. I thought it might be something like that but you just filled in the gaps. No problem. There are a few other minor differences - the kernel is optimized for a server environment, whereas Fedora is targeted at a desktop, but there's not enough of a difference to note that I can think of; the Fedora kernel may be larger due to more hardware drivers being included. The only other real difference is the support paths. You're FC6 install is scheduled to stop receiving updates on December 7th, 2007 (it's already past it's EOL), and CentOS4 will receive updates for 4 more years. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
It's something I'm thinking about doing, but due to the amount of work involved would probably not be in the freebie bin (ie: a subscription I think folks understand that and would be willing to pay a reasonable fee. Right now suggestions are best. I do not get many any more (even far-fetched ones), so I don't know what everyone is looking for. I add what I find useful, but that may not be what you find useful. Hmm, how about a version which has spf and domainkeys fully activated with email making it to yahoo and hotmail right out of the box? :). I've had countless people help me with this, have yet to figure it out, weird eh? Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, how about a version which has spf and domainkeys fully activated with email making it to yahoo and hotmail right out of the box? :). I've had countless people help me with this, have yet to figure it out, weird eh? I may take a crack at that; I've set up several machines recently and have not had any issue sending to Yahoo or Hotmail (even though I'm not using DK), so it may be an outside factor. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
I may take a crack at that; I've set up several machines recently and have not had any issue sending to Yahoo or Hotmail (even though I'm not using DK), so it may be an outside factor. I've wondered about that also and took a close look at my watchguard firewall thinking it might be that. I changed the SMTP filter to a standard filter (non proxy in any way) to make sure that nothing was being filtered that I was not aware of. Didn't make any difference. You're welcome to use me as your test bed if you'd like another system to take a kick at :). I'm running a couple of your QMT 1.3.1's, both have the problem which means you're probably right, something about the network and not QMT. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may take a crack at that; I've set up several machines recently and have not had any issue sending to Yahoo or Hotmail (even though I'm not using DK), so it may be an outside factor. I've wondered about that also and took a close look at my watchguard firewall thinking it might be that. I changed the SMTP filter to a standard filter (non proxy in any way) to make sure that nothing was being filtered that I was not aware of. Didn't make any difference. You're welcome to use me as your test bed if you'd like another system to take a kick at :). I'm running a couple of your QMT 1.3.1's, both have the problem which means you're probably right, something about the network and not QMT. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't have spf and dk on all toasters and at start yahoo would set it as bulk mail and hotmail would not show the mails, after sending a mail from hotmail to the new domain and make a reply to that mail, the mails started to appear - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
Yea Mike, I'm not sure why Yahoo and Hotmail don't like you. That is really strange. I have 2 different post offices I run, one is the QMT and the other is Merak. They both aren't having any problems sending to Yahoo or Hotmail. It's not to say I never had any problems though. Those and AOL want your DNS clean, your IPs static and all kinds of other things. The other week when you and I spent a few hours playing, it seemed like all of that was fine. I think I even ran your IP through the RBLs and they came back clean. Is it possible you were listed by Yahoo at one time for spamming? I'm pretty certain your problem has nothing to do with QMT itself. Too many people are running QMT without this problem. All of that being said, Jake, if you're bored and looking for something to poke at, DomainKeys working glitch free would be very cool! DKIM would be a bonus!! hehe, spare time... Yea, right... lol! Phil -Original message- From: Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 15:03:23 -0500 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, how about a version which has spf and domainkeys fully activated with email making it to yahoo and hotmail right out of the box? :). I've had countless people help me with this, have yet to figure it out, weird eh? I may take a crack at that; I've set up several machines recently and have not had any issue sending to Yahoo or Hotmail (even though I'm not using DK), so it may be an outside factor. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
I don't have spf and dk on all toasters and at start yahoo would set it as bulk mail and hotmail would not show the mails, after sending a mail from hotmail to the new domain and make a reply to that mail, the mails started to appear First, was that just for one account on both sites or did that work for any from that point on? Second, we tried that too and it still never worked. Email to hotmail still never shows up or goes to bulk and yahoo, always deferred. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have spf and dk on all toasters and at start yahoo would set it as bulk mail and hotmail would not show the mails, after sending a mail from hotmail to the new domain and make a reply to that mail, the mails started to appear First, was that just for one account on both sites or did that work for any from that point on? Second, we tried that too and it still never worked. Email to hotmail still never shows up or goes to bulk and yahoo, always deferred. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] not from the first mail, after several testing to different accounts (not spam tagging) - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
Yea Mike, I'm not sure why Yahoo and Hotmail don't like you. That is really strange. I have 2 different post offices I run, one is the QMT and Something with the firewall then as we've been mulling around. I don't see much else and it's one of those things where you look at it too long, you'll see nothing new or obvious. Is it possible you were listed by Yahoo at one time for spamming? I'm pretty certain your problem has nothing to do with QMT itself. Too many people are running QMT without this problem. Kind of doubt it, especially since the tests don't show anything like that. The email just keeps getting deferred, not blocked. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
I have this exact same problem and am yet to figure out what it is. some times it goes to the bulk mail folder sometimes it just gets deferred back to me and i am no idea what it would be. Q On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 20:58 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea Mike, I'm not sure why Yahoo and Hotmail don't like you. That is really strange. I have 2 different post offices I run, one is the QMT and Something with the firewall then as we've been mulling around. I don't see much else and it's one of those things where you look at it too long, you'll see nothing new or obvious. Is it possible you were listed by Yahoo at one time for spamming? I'm pretty certain your problem has nothing to do with QMT itself. Too many people are running QMT without this problem. Kind of doubt it, especially since the tests don't show anything like that. The email just keeps getting deferred, not blocked. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT-ISO 1.4.0 is out
Tim on this list figured out what was wrong with my DK problems along with some DNS issues and everything seems to be resolved. The testing from other sites seems to show that all is fine but it's not. As you've seen, other others on the list have also helped me out. This seems to be something that might or might not be QMT related, network related, but what ever it is, it could be something that might save a lot of folks a lot of grief if we could find a solution. Mike On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:20:19 -0500, Kyle Quillen wrote: I have this exact same problem and am yet to figure out what it is. some times it goes to the bulk mail folder sometimes it just gets deferred back to me and i am no idea what it would be. Q On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 20:58 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea Mike, I'm not sure why Yahoo and Hotmail don't like you. That is really strange. I have 2 different post offices I run, one is the QMT and Something with the firewall then as we've been mulling around. I don't see much else and it's one of those things where you look at it too long, you'll see nothing new or obvious. Is it possible you were listed by Yahoo at one time for spamming? I'm pretty certain your problem has nothing to do with QMT itself. Too many people are running QMT without this problem. Kind of doubt it, especially since the tests don't show anything like that. The email just keeps getting deferred, not blocked. Mike - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
